After lots of misinformation, tidbits of info and Major Nelson now stating that the Xbox One is "designed" with trade and resale in mind, it's perhaps building a picture of the future of the video game market.
Xbox One is "designed" with trade and resale in mind. Absolutely true, they designed it to limit and/or raise the cost of used games.
Here's what Major Nelson stated regarding the whole trade in of games: "The ability to trade in and resell games is important to gamers and to Xbox. Xbox One is designed to support the trade in and resale of games. Reports about our policies for trade in and resale are inaccurate and incomplete. We will disclose more information in the near future." Few things give me a feeling that there will be some sort of used game blocking/control policy. Particularly the sentence "Xbox One is designed to support the trade in and resale of games". To me it sounds like they (Microsoft) are looking for a way to control and restrict not the trade in/reselling of games, but of the use/playing of used games on the Xbone. They can't physically restrain you from lending your game disc to a friend, but they can stop him from trying to play it on his Xbone. If my thinking is wrong (I surely hope I am) then they would have cleared this whole confusion up by now. Instead, Major Nelson could've simply answered "Hey! Nothing's changed. You can use your purchased used copy with no issues"
Well think about. Once you install a game on 360, you NEED the disc to play. On Xbox One, you don't. Which is convenient, ask any PC user with a Steam account. So to prevent piracy, they have to take counter measures. However, MS left everyone with a very bad and vague explanation. Until, E3 comes and they explain more, everything is speculation.
Yeah, no. I decide where I sell my games. NOT you, M$.
Exactly. We're talking about our rights here. Although trading in digital copies sounds cool, but it also sounds unrealistic (why would they want it back?).
You can do the same with books on a kindle.
But why would they want it back? I don't understand.
Funny how people disagree with a fact. In the case of the Kindle, Amazon buys the rights to only so many books. As strange as it sounds sometimes digital books actually sell out and you have to purchase a used digital copy. Makes no sense, but that's the way it is.
Not if you buy your games on the new Xbox One you don't. Microsoft decides who you can and who you can not sell your games to...if you buy the new Xbox One, that is. Microsoft decides when you will and when you will not put it online. Microsoft decides when you Kinect will and when it will not watch what you are doing, and when it will and when it will not listen to you. If you didn't know, it's always listening, always watching, like the Great Eye of Sauron. Who are we to decide what to do with our own stuff that we bought with our own money. Who are we to tell our machines that we don't want to be watched. Those are the reasons that I would not buy one. As someone pointed out to me, as it is right now I would not accept one free as a gift. P.S. I have been saying that Microsoft is going to come out with some sort of Xbox Live store/program ever since the day of the reveal and we learned that they were going to charge a fee that was full price to unblock used games.
I like that Forza 5 boxart. Looks sleek and fantastic.
I like that cloud that is passing by in the sky right now, but because it didn't have anything to do with this post I didn't bother commenting about it on here. You should consider the same.
By that logic I could have said that cloud passing by that I liked was also relevant due to Microsoft's focus on cloud gaming lately. It's an off topic comment, that's all i'm pointing out. It does nothing to further the conversation about the Xbox One Store, it's used game situation, etc.
come on guys disagreeing with him cause he like the box art? :/
Give him a break, guys. This past week must have been really, really, hard for SDF Repellent. After being so thoroughly betrayed by Microsoft and practically forced by them to decide to go with the PS4 next gen, he needs some time to adjust, I would guess.
This comment cracked me up i know exactly why you said it but at the sametime you make it sound like a creature hahaha!
Are the disc based games going to be cheaper? They should be! But you can bet they'll cost £50-60 a game like the 360 games cost when that launched
Trading in digital downloaded games..now they are being gamestop??
except....Microsoft is aiming on reimbursing publishers for trade-ins...so, that's what gamestop doesn't do.
That's right. Why should a game store re sell a game over & over & the makers gets nothing. The store rips off the kids giving them a shit trade in & re sells it for a killing. Im not saying for one second that Microsoft would give a better trade in price, but the devs will get a cut, that's why the EA pass stopped, they know whats coming.
Trading in digital games would be great.Others would follow MS.
this is going to bite them hard, people are going to buy less when games lose all value after purchase and there is only a very few places you can sell. the people who sell there games generally use that money to buy new if they get less money there going to be buying less.
First understand, theirs very few places one can trade-in their used games now. And if MS gives the gamer money back for the used game just like a GameStop would...why is this a bad thing, if they give devs part of the cut back?
The ability to trade digital games by selling the codes would be a huge win for gamers. But, it is fantasy until M$ or Sony actually makes it policy. M$ definitely has the resources to make this a reality. Their should setup a site where code transfers can be cone for a $5 fee between gamers, or you could choose to sell your code back to M$ or any approved retailer, who in turn owns the right to that code to sell or transfer as they see fit. This way the content always has some value and the owners get to decide how to distribute that content. Digital Distribution is here to stay and has changed the trading business. If everyone can profit from the trades with out the gamers loosing out, then it will work for everyone. The $2 or $5 trading fee will be paid by the buyer and the seller can ask for what ever he wants on top of that fee. The money from the fees should then be split between the developers and who ever is hosting the actual trade.
There is no way in hell that they would do that. That would kill half of the developers and publishers and practically all of the brick and mortar retailers in one year. If they even tried it, all of the publishers would jump ship immediately. But then on second thought I can't say that the people at Xbox are too stupid to try anything can I?
What if Microsoft manage to do something like Steam in terms of pricing on games. I mean if they make real sales and stuff it's not so bad...
that would be really cool, actually.
Like what PS+ already does for us? Im expecting this to be greatly expanded for PS4, remember Every single PS4 game can be digitally downloaded.
It just sounds wrong. Trade in digital games?? Sell them cheaper to begin with instead.
this is just stupid, dumb, and killing gaming as a pass time, so ill never be able the rent a game now from my local video store, ill never be able to swap games with friends, I buy games new if I really want the game eg halo but what about games I'm not sure ill like, I would normally hire the game out play for an hour or so then think hey this is a great game so I stop playing it and go buy it, this was the case with fable 2 and forza, then there were games that I thought I would of liked but after hireing them they sucked so saved money from buying them eg bioshock 2 fable 3. imagine if you could not hire movies and got forced to buy them?? what makes games any different?? SHAME ON YOU MICROSOFT and I loved my 360 :(
Who would buy a new Digital game when you can get a used Digital game cheaper Digital is Digital no difference. This is so dumb.
And that my friend, is why Microsoft will force all sells and purchases to be to and from Microsoft.
@ Gameland - To combat this Microsoft store would offer sales on its games (like Steam) to keep the pricing competitive and reflective of age. I would also expect that trading in a digital copy wouldn't actually then be offered to others at a lower price because as you say, why then would anyone buy new; that said, used sales could be time based or there could be tons of extras included in a new sale such as free games from the same publisher (this also happens on steam and retail discs) which you wouldn't get from a used sale. Example - Gears of War Judgment retail disc shipped with a code for the original Gears of War game for free. A used copy might not have the game and be of lesser value. Example - Resident Evil Revelations came with Lost Planet for free via Steam. A used game might not have this extra. Example - Bioshock Infinite shipped with the original Bioshock and XCOM Enemy Unknown for free via Steam and some other digital stores etc. To the person that mentioned a Monopoly (00). No, Steam hasn't monopolized the digital marketplace as there are other outlets like Gamersgate also selling download codes complete with their own deals and offers.
This is like going to an APP Store and buying Angry birds NEW $1.99 Angry birds USED $1.49 Angry birds Trade-in $.50 I wouldn't buy new because no difference and Microsoft will get a percent of used games how is this good for publishers?
Because if its used they'd have made a deal with Microsoft & get a cut instead of the high street store keeping all the trade in cash as happens now.
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