Joystiq - Gamestop's approach to the Xbox One's nebulous pre-owned game policies – which may include charging players a fee for booting up a used game – involves emphasis on digital adaptation, and letting Microsoft do the talking.
Gamestop sounds just as clueless as MS.
Microsoft told Gamestop what it wanted it to hear NOT what it needed it to hear.
Gamestop has to take this stance regardless of the facts. To publicly state otherwise is to commit stock price suicide. Remember, Gamestop acts to protect its investors first, the game companies second, and the gamer dead last. Its not that they act to protect the gamer even then, merely its the simple truth that in the eyes of Gamestop no one ranks below the gamers at the bottom of the list.
Uhm so what will you say if sony does something similar to micro for used games?...because unless I missed some new press release with a concrete statement that they wont have any used game *FEES* then they just might be headed down the same road.
umm joker, if sony does charge for used games, thats 1 negative thing about nx gen machines.. Sony wont require internet & require game installs on top of it
The president of Sony said "We won't block used games" a month or two ago.
@MariaHelFutura, MS also stated a couple days ago that they will also not block used games. Can you find me quote in which Sony said they will not charged a second purchased/online fee involving used game? The answer I keep hearing is "we have no announcement at this time" and it sounds awfully similar to MS response of "we will announce used game trades at retails at a later date" @DevineAssult, Also, I never once heard Sony announced that PS4 games don't require game installs. Did Sony announced that at their conference?
Please link me where they said they have no announcements at this time regarding used games? http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
^^^ "When asked whether games would require online registration, Yoshida noted that that decision was up to the publisher. When asked if Sony, as a publisher, would require games to be registered online, Yoshida said, "we are not talking about that plan." http://arstechnica.com/gami...
"I sat down with Yoshida a few hours after the PS4 reveal tonight and one of the first things I asked was whether used games would be blocked. "Do you want us to do that?" he asked. No, I said. I think, if you buy something on a disc, that you have a kind of moral contract with the person you've bought it from that you retain some of that value and you can pass it on. Do you agree, I asked? "Yes. That's the general expectation by consumers," said Yoshida. "They purchase physical form, they want to use it everywhere, right? So that's my expectation."
"So that's my expectation." -Have you ever watched politics, that's the type of campaign answer you give when you want the voter to think you are going to do something AFTER you're elected while at the same time its a way to hide you're intentions of doing what your $lobbyist paid you for....then when confronted about why you flip flopped you just say you only said it was an "expectation"/a goal/objective/you tried but unfortunately its Democrats/Republicans fault it didn't happen. [camera off] [laughs all the way to the bank]. Again nowhere has sony confirmed there won't be any type of used game fees.
So, to sum: "Microsoft told us, and now we're telling you, that Xbox does support used games market. They didn't specify that 'support' means 'adding a fee', or that 'used games market' means 'Microsoft-run online swap-meet'. But yeah, they 'support' it so there you go" ("but on a side note, I'm not going to mention that GS stock dropped on May 21st after Microsoft's announcement") Xbone: Call of Doggy. Please be excited.
Wake up Gamestop.
Wake up to what? Gamestop was told that it can sell used games and that people will be able to play used games on the Xbox One. That is ALL Gamestop cares about (being able to sell used games). Gamestop doesn't care if the consumer has to pay an extra fee to play it after he buys it.
Yeah. We know they do. For a price... >_>
I wonder what Gamefly has to say about this stuff. This will really hurt their business.
There's a whole division lost for them. That blows. Just thinking about the new commercials for them. "Subscribe to Gamefly, where you can rent you favorite PS4 and WiiU games, but not Xbox One, because they think your stealing unless you buy a game new. Sorry kids."
And what the hell makes you think sony wont block used games; when we know for a fact they have it patent. I so wish I would be able to see the look on you sony fan boys face if they do announce they will block used games.
Its possible to make rental disc, that'll cost places like gamefly a premium. Its already done with blurays, so the option is there. Half the movies I receive from netflix, the special features are locked.
Of course they do, because when they trade it in to a place like Gamestop Microsoft knows they're getting an extra $60.
What's the point of buying a used game if it's full price though? That makes no sense to me. Is Microsoft drunk?
Exactly. I don't see how a used disk, that must be paid for/unlocked again to play, would have any value.
The bright side is, it could force Gamestop too lower the outrageously high prices of their used games.
try full price + GS price! you buy the used game from GS and then you have to pay full price to MS to activate it. so...it will be like you're donating your money to GS! GS can strike back by refusing all XB1 trade in. because user can buy a game, install it and then go straight back to the store for highest trade in value possible. gamers who know best will not be buying used copies and GS will be lest with MANY MANY unsold used copies! so...the only way to prevent this is to refuse trade in all together. There will be no more impulse/blind purchase by gamers, no return, no trade in value or whatsoever! maybe by then gamer can start talking with their wallet and stop buying this scam and MAYBE....just MAYBE, M$ will rethink their strategy!
That's not a bright side negative. This whole things sounds like GS will just facilitate the redistribution of already purchased content, but most of the money will still remain within MS. Although in this case it will be handled in store. Gamestop will receive a kickback, like they do currently with DLC content sold in store. It's possible they could unregister a person's disc though if turned in. Effectively though it means that MS or the publishers will now control trade in prices and the resell price of those games...which will likely be like Gamestops current policy of $5-10 less than what a new game cost. It's good for the pubs and MS as it means they are getting money off 2nd hand sales. It's not good for the gamer, because it means most of this is very limiting to them in terms of choice. All this is pure speculation mind you, but I wouldn't doubt it goes this way. GameStop is too big to just cut off completely right now. But I wouldn't doubt that publishers want to lessen their influence in the market for their eventual demise.
From the sound of it, 100% true--assuming same price point. From what I've read and understand the disc is primarily being used as a physical distribution system to keep from having to download the game online. With all of the "Cloud" and "License" talk MS has been focusing on anyways they are seemingly only really supporting physical discs for those that lack the internet speed/limit to handle that kind of volume (or those that like to pretend they own the content/collect games). Its an unfortunate and unwanted evolution for consoles (any product actually) and can lead to some serious problems for all parties involved.
what a back stap from MS. Reaching Gamestop before the conference and lying to them about used games! I'm expecting Gamestop to promote PS4 like crazy.
"Digital content can be easily discovered," Bartel said. "We will actually work with Microsoft and we will work with Sony as they come out with – I guess what you would call 'non-gaming entertainment properties.' We'll be selling those in our store." Customers will be able to pay for this content with trade-in currency, other executives said.: Well, according to that statement from GS, not just MS but Sony might be going down the digital used game path as well. Time will tell. Hope this doesn't happen or physical mediums continue to be used for trade ins as well.
If Sony does it I see WiiU sales jumping even higher than they jumped after the MS announcement. God bless you Nintendo!
Sony already stated I think they will probably have a very large digital catalog of games considering you will be able to install games and stream-line play them off of PSN. The popularity to that I guess will depend on where you live and how much bandwidth you get from your ISP.
What part of 'non-gaming entertainment properties' is unclear? They'll sell other stuff to offset the lost money on XBO games and whatever PS4 games DEVELOPERS decide to block. Sony has already been clear on the used game issue, unlike microsoft.
i think everyone is overblowing the situation, they are doing this to kill piracy and not to kill the used game market even thought im sure many would love that like devs. my only gripe with this sytem they are going with is that you cant give a game to a friend, once you do and they want to play they have to pay.
I just dont like people telling me what to do with the things I purchase.....
badkolo, You know on bookreaders like Kindle and the Nook, there is an option for your friend on your contact list to request to barrow a book from you. If you accept, the license will temporary transfer over to your friend for however number of days the system is set up for; in turn, you will loose your license access until that lend license had expired. I think that might be a good alternative to go for next gen and might actually work but I don't see it happening due to the chance of the DRM being hacked. we will see.