Submitted by john2 497d ago | screenshot

Official Call of Duty: Ghosts Trailer Reveals A 'Fake' Lighting System

DSOGaming writes: "Our reader ‘Thomas’ has sent us this image, highlighting some interesting features. As we can clearly see, there are sun shafts at places where they should not. This particular scene can be noticed at the 0:26 mark point, and we’ve checked it ourselves to verify that the bright light source at the center of the screen is the sun." (Call of Duty: Ghosts, PC, PS4, Xbox One)

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NYC_Gamer  +   497d ago
Its still running on that old ass Quake engine?
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john2  +   497d ago
Indeed. It's an 'augmented' and not a brand new one

m2stech  +   497d ago
Wow, these guys are so cheap...wait never mind, people will still buy it.
Intentions  +   497d ago
It's probably a jpeg background too. :P

Apart from all the mockery, it looks better than what I expected it to. So I guess it's alright.

But imo they should of invested time into making a proper new engine. Seeing as they have so many studios working on CoD now.
Enemy  +   497d ago
Well, there goes that BF4 vs. COD:G graphics face-off.
Pandamobile  +   497d ago
They could easily have a team behind the scenes work on a whole new engine while not disrupting current Call of Duty development, but they don't.

There's a startling lack of care from Activision to push the series forward.

There's less of a difference between Black Ops 2 and Ghosts than there was between Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3, and that was only an 18 month gap in the same generation.
AliTheSnake1  +   497d ago
Let's wait for gameplay footage, then we can judge
Did You think Frosbite 3 was a new engine ?
It's an upgraded frosbite 2.
Same story.
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Pandamobile  +   497d ago
We've already seen some gameplay footage of Ghosts. It looked exactly like the last Call of Duty.

At least Frostbite 2 to 3 is an iteration on an already next-gen ready game engine.

Not update #15012 to Quake 3's tired old code.
Autodidactdystopia  +   496d ago
for real did anyone not expect this?
camel_toad  +   497d ago
Activision is using the formula Minimum effort = Maximum gain and sadly it's working for them.
PurpHerbison  +   496d ago
They have always done this. No surprise here.
BlmThug  +   497d ago
With all the billions they make from CoD, one would expect some money to be spent on a new engine
ZodTheRipper  +   497d ago
Sadly we learned from an investor's call some weeks ago that they are only increasing marketing and sales efforts to be competitive ...they know that people will buy it anyway. Very sad.
ssj27  +   496d ago
Well I don't think the Quake engine has much to do here.. most games even new Unreal engine run on old codes but improved in every way..

every game running on the XBOX1 look and felt weird, just like a polished 360 game with new animations.. the new remedy games to felt cheap.. EA games and Fifa look underwhelming and is sad from a gamers perspective point of view..
now the PS4 power will be limited by one... and they say PS4 does not have bottlenecks? well it has ONE.

gamers should thank Sony for evolving the gaming industry.. PS4 will have the best games and it will do well in every way... PS4 is a masterpiece ..
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Pandamobile  +   497d ago
We've had those fake-ass light rays in games since Half-Life 2. I'm actually baffled that IW couldn't get a proper implementation of sun shafts going when Crytek themselves published their methods from the original Crysis.
elhebbo16  +   497d ago
nobody goes full-crysis.
duli14  +   497d ago
I was surprised at how bad this game looked. I mean wasn't expecting much in the first place but still.
ZodTheRipper  +   497d ago
It looks like it can run on this gen lol
kayoss  +   497d ago
It probably can. I remember one of the iw rep saying that the next gen is unnecessary as of right now. It sounded like he knows that when the next gen is out, any game released for it will suffer in sales due to smaller adoption when compared to current gen. They want to release as many cod games as possible with very little change. It's like the same game with different skin.
Bumpmapping  +   497d ago
Axonometri  +   497d ago
Not to bust anyone's bubble, but volumetric light, or light rays, don't always come from the sun. Light is like liquid. It can come and go places by reflections and radiosity. That light looks like it is beaming in from something picking up the direct sun light and being cast back into the canopy of trees from another angle. You can see this in real life everywhere.

Go google some photos.
The_Klank  +   497d ago
What big shiney metallic surface would there be in the middle of a jungle?
Axonometri  +   497d ago
light does not just reflect off chrome. It could be from clouds.
The_Klank  +   497d ago
Hogwash Ax, light does not work that way, Pandamobile nails it.
Enemy  +   497d ago
Flying saucers can definitely shine in the middle of a jungle. Aliens confirmed?
Pandamobile  +   497d ago
Not like that. The light source would have to be REALLY diffused to begin with, and there's just no way that light shafts with that strong of a direction aren't coming from a separate light source (which should be non-existent).
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Axonometri  +   497d ago
I believe your wrong.
Pandamobile  +   497d ago
Well, the burden of proof is on you. Light emitted from the sun comes in (basically) one direction to Earth. You're not going to see light shafts perpendicular to the direction of the sun in a realistic environment. Not without a giant specular surface hovering just above the tree line anyway.

"light does not just reflect off chrome. It could be from clouds"

Correct, but light reflecting off of clouds is very diffused, and hence has no real direction.
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Axonometri  +   497d ago
google "Volume Caustics"
The_Klank  +   497d ago
I don't even..., ok so I did as you said and googled it, the deflected light in your examples all stem from the same source of light. Which in this screenshot obviously isn't happening.
Axonometri  +   497d ago
Light scatter is real and happens.. what I will give you both is the fact that the rays of the light at that angle being broken that hard in the volume of particles is far far too hard. If the light was scattering off say a bank of really white clouds low at the right angle... it would be more blurred and diffused.
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Unicron  +   497d ago
Light scattering does happen. What you're seeing in the shot are typically referred to as god rays though. They come from one of two points, the sun, or the point in the sky opposite, not perpendicular.


This is basically a rookie mistake or an artist embellishment in the screenshot.
kayoss  +   497d ago
You're telling me that the light reflected off the very white cloud has the same intensity of brightness compared to the direct source? It's time to pass us what you're smoking.
Let's say what you're saying is true, from the angle of where the ray is coming from the clouds have to be many miles away and higher then the source to get that kind of light reflected angle. But in this image the light ray have the same brightness as the source and the light ray is evenly position with the source that means that it have to be real close to the source for it to reflect the same intensity when compared to the source (sun). But it doesn't explain the angel of the light ray. Either you're right or god is shinning a few flash light to help te soldier find his way. Just a reminder the game is called C.O.D. Not G.O.D.
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M-M  +   496d ago
@Axonometri, Google "brain".
specialguest  +   496d ago
Suppose your statement in a rare case is true. So you're saying that COD's lighting tech is sooooooo advanced that it's even capable of creating this rare case where the light ray of the sun magically bounces off a white cloud that COD devs purposely placed in the sky which we will never notice it being there in the first place just for that effect?? What a load of far fetched crap! LOL! C'mon man, just give up and admit that they faked it and got caught.
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hesido  +   497d ago
Axonometri: Why would they waste resources accounting for "Volume caustics" before they account for the primary light rays that should be coming from where actually the sun is? This is clearly fake lighting (and even if it were physically viable, which I think is not, it doesn't make sense to waste your GPU cycles on.)
wallis  +   496d ago
Jesus Christ you are so wrong it hurts.
Cyfyxtfg  +   497d ago
:( more and more bad things keep coming out. i want this game to be so good so bad :/
ZodTheRipper  +   497d ago
What? Just buy something else? There are literally tons of shooters out there, Call of Duty is not the holy grail lol
So many people are used to CoD gameplay and dismiss every other game that doesn't play like it. Your missing out pals, after seeing BF4, Killzone:SF and Arma3 I couldn't care less how this game turns out.
Cyfyxtfg  +   496d ago
i have arma and battlefield. great games but they dont hold me and keep me locked in like cod. everyone has their game. mine happens to be cod. its what i like and i cant change that. COD is my holy grail. only second to rainbow six
KillrateOmega  +   497d ago
With all the money that Activision rakes in from CoD every year they still can't be bothered to make a new engine?

They've been using the same base engine for the better part of a decade...
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RevXM  +   497d ago
And at its core its still the Quake engine, id tech 3... Welcome to the 90's right? lmao.
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Thefreeman012  +   497d ago
What I got from that, aware only going to fix our engine enough that's not being innovative but enough that will take your money
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PANTHER1030  +   497d ago
Battlefield 4 and Killzone: Shadow Fall look much better than the new COD.
insertnamehurr  +   497d ago
Theres a video of killzone shadow fall showing how they can fix the reflexes/shafts/whatever by putting them in the right place with ray tracing or whatever its called, dont remember.

Heres the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watc... watch it from 2.50 min :)
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hesido  +   497d ago
Killzone SF supports Volumetric lighting on every type of light source, they sure won't be manually placing light-shafts!
ssj27  +   496d ago
but if they use KZSF tech COD will go down to 30fps and not their "amazing" beloved 60fps..

COD will first aim to simple + 60fps with horrible lag and horrible hit detection ..

haha i remember play MW2 and it was sad seen how in the kill cam, was like a different parallel universe from what happen on my screen.. that moment change everything.

PS4 will have the most powerful network thanks to Gaika and I hope their games are lag free most of the time or alway lag free..

KILLZONE SHADOW FALL will be the best fps to get.. BF4 is more of the same, same beta engine(yes BF3 felt like playing a alpha ode of a game and thats been nie).. and COD more of the same old gen old tech (using chip sound, and chip everything)
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objdadon  +   497d ago
I won't be looking at light when im getting another kill streak off you!
SpiralTear  +   497d ago
Who needs lighting when you have hyper-intelligent fish AI?
IG-88  +   497d ago
I hope that Tech leads to some badass Fish sim games.
Beahmscream  +   497d ago
This is plain unacceptable.
Shadonic  +   497d ago
Makes billions of dollars on a series of basically rehash after rehash of the same game, cant even use a good amount of said money to make there next gen console game have amazing graphics for the new gen.

(excluding black ops cause they do try to change things up)
Shadonic  +   497d ago
Saddest thing is that I can already see my ignorant friend going nuts talking about how amazing it supposedly looks when I have a warframe a free game looking better than that.
snipab8t  +   497d ago
Maybe there is a giant evil mirror above that section of the trees, reflecting light rays down.
Bonerboy  +   497d ago
Its a shame that the millions of mouth-breathers will still sprout a little boner and camp out to buy this amazingly stupid "game".

CoD has been left out in the sun too long and it looks rotten.
mrmancs  +   497d ago
On high end PC and ps4 it has a real time lighting solution...maybe...
Kran  +   497d ago
What is real anymore?
Haules  +   497d ago
haters gonnna hate!people just dont realise how good the graphics of medal of honour warfigther were and the game was shittiest at its best!cod doesnt have good graphics still the story and multiplayerr make up for it!
nypifisel  +   496d ago
Super Mario Bros on NES had the tightest control and gameplay ever.. Why you no off playing that?
quenomamen  +   497d ago
Pandamobile dropping that knowledge on mofos,lol.

" yea, well that light could be reflecting off clouds......or maybe there's more than one sun in COD ghosts "

Stop it already, this is no new engine. Just another 2 year update like always.
plaZeHD  +   497d ago
Thanks for borrowing my pic.
HmongAmerican  +   497d ago
When I watch that trailer. Everything is still looks the same as their last COD, especially MW3. buildings are just copy and past from MW3 and the same color pallet for everything.
MuhammadJA  +   496d ago
It's still more fun than BF4.
ElitaStorm  +   496d ago
are they sure its a game on earth not another planet because earth has only 1 sun
Prcko  +   496d ago
so fake presentations are in now,huh...
Avery  +   496d ago
64+ player maps, full suite of ground + air vehicles awesome selection of weapons, great AI, great animation are some points that = next gen FPS to me.... is this it?
Thomaticus  +   496d ago
I like COD But I really need to give battlefield more of a chance and enjoy it.

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