Xbox One New Kinect Hands On Demo At Microsoft Headquarters - Gamerhubtv
GamerHub.TV: After the Xbox Reveal, Microsoft showcased what the new Xbox One Kinect can do. Check out the motion sensor functionality in this exclusive video.
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K2 is an improvement, more interesting than K1, but still buggy, and no matter how fast motion tracking gets it will not be as fast as thumbs.
This could be good as a standalone tech, but can't see much core gaming application, and making it mandatory for the opration of the XB1 is a deal breaker for many.
Break it down for us because I see very little input lag, which is the same as every other hands-on demo has said. I know the cool thing is to troll all x1 articles right now, but stop.
EDIT: If you freeze frame it from second to second the screen shows very close to what is actually occurring like I mean possibly 10-15 ms difference.
EDIT 2: What a surprise Sony fanboys mashing the disagree button for anything positive, give it a rest and see for yourself.
@Loki I can't speak for everyone else but I disagreed with you because you CAN see lag. I don't know why you're dismissing it as practically nothing. It is still noticeable and in hardcore video games, that much lag (even though you claim it's practically nothing) will get you killed. And this is with a very simple program. What happens to the lag when it's a graphically intense game or over the internet?
@Veni Vidi Vici There is no lag, and the great thing is that the ONE is designed to run the Kinect.
That was the issue with Kinect one, It had its several information mode but the 360 didnt have the processing power to use them all. Thats why you saw hackers doing much better things on Ps than the 360. Because PC didnt have the processing limitation. Maximized Kinect1 could run 2 frames behind 30fps this one is even faster. I am kinect expert I checked all this stuff out.
The ONE is designed to run this thing perfectly thats why it comes with every system now.
@edonus Like hell the lag is in my mind. I can see it plain as day. All you have to do is watch for a quick movement from an arm or leg and then watch the screen. There is a delay.
I have no fricken horse in this race. I have a 360, PS3 and PC, and I mostly just play PC. I don't care who made the thing, I CAN see lag. I agree that it's definitely better than the first Kinect but it still has lag. The fact that you claim to be a Kinect expert tells me you're an Xbox fanboy. Unless you helped designed the thing, you aren't an expert. You're an enthusiast.
yea but its very very slight lag but it would only be a slight announce. The issue that mostly plagued kinect then were the limitations of the device and the overall games for the thing. Microsoft isnt really making the kinect mandatory for all games there just including it in hopes of developers adding functions even as small as voice commands with the kinect. It looks impressive to me and after all the mods ive seen done with the previous version its clear to me that there is a place for kinect in gaming. The big issue for version 2 is getting developers to find new ways of playing that fit the device and for the already non supportive consumers. A majority of them hate it without any real insight into the amazing things it has done and the good games it has brought and most of the time when it does come to light they push it off just because of the shear fact that its a kinect title.
I mean when i saw the kinect skyrim demo with free movement and stuff and then the addition of the occulus rift on and earlier mod with free movement and now we have improved depth and accuracy so those will be all the more better. While im not getting a Xbox one at the moment im most excited for what the modding community does with the device and what developers put out this time.
I think i heard in some video that it has ~66ms lag. Judging by this video its imo pretty acurate number. Not bad if you ask me. Its probably much less laggy then average fanboy brain ;-)
The lag is there, it's slight but it's still there.
One very precise and descriptive example is at 1:02 when she opens and closes her hand. There it is. That's called lag.
I'm quite impressed with this tech though. If they put it to good use in games, the market that is interested in this type of input is in for a treat. I'm more for the tangible feedback, but like I said the tech is good.
M$ is doing exactly what I was hoping they would do with the 3D Cam Tech. They are putting in the R&D and delivering innovation way beyond what was there a few years ago. They are now the leaders in this tech by a mile. I still would like to see what the new PS I will bring. Having competition brings more ideas to the table and drives innovation even further. Excited for the holidays to get here.
What do you mean hack I am more worried about M$ watching me (Less watching more about sending snap shot pictures when recognizing new people are in the room). They are a data mining machine there is reason they are behind all medical records being digital and behind many technology implementations into schools. Think about how much M$ knows about you right now....
Come on guys, we are all smart enough to buy a PS4, but this video did show some impressive technology. Kinects sports is going to be really impressive.
Considering the lack of mentioning it as a gaming controller this time around, I bet we get a lot of minor Kinect uses with games, but mostly it'll be reserved for navigation and as the heart of the Xbox One.
To be fair, the tech is pretty good. Motion sensing games are not my thing but I do like the idea of using the Skype feature and talking to family overseas.
Wow, looks night and day compared to the first Kinect. I think the last 3 years were a beta test on the Xbox 360, Kinect integration, SmartGlass and seeing how people reacted to more entertainment features.
If it's done well, I'm all for it, but I think it obviously has to stay mostly as an option, and work.
I see you've read the new Naruto chapter :D. I can agree there should some sort of sleep mode or an option to have it off or maybe work in an easy insert USB port seeing as the previous one was freaking difficult to insert and disconnect.
Oh so it does was they claimed the original Kinect was supposed to do?
And it's still not as accurate as they showed on stage, that skeleton is popping about quite a bit, still a big improvement, maybe this time around it's actually be functional
I don't understand why people think they MUST use the kinect2. If you don't like it... don't utilize it. That's what the handheld controller is for is it not? And as for those crying about it being a media hub. DON'T use it for a media hub.... lol. If you don't have cable/sat box, then that doesn't mean you cant use xb1.. it means you are smart enough not to pay out of the ass for 3-4 decent shows on television. If you do have a cable box or whatever, you won't be forced to have it plugged into the input. the console in theory should run just fine using only the hdmi output.
Most people are just now progressing from sd to hd and most people who own hdtv's don't use it for hd cable, they use it to experience hd videogames/bluray movies.
Basically. The XB1 CAN be your central unit but it does NOT have to be. It CAN only do games, if that is what you want. It CAN be an all-in-one system, if that's what you like.
I have a Kinect that I barely use. Now that it is truly integrated into the system, more games should be able to use it in a way that makes sense. Hopefully its used for more than dance games.
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This could be good as a standalone tech, but can't see much core gaming application, and making it mandatory for the opration of the XB1 is a deal breaker for many.
I must admit the tech behind this thing is pretty crazy.
EDIT: If you freeze frame it from second to second the screen shows very close to what is actually occurring like I mean possibly 10-15 ms difference.
EDIT 2: What a surprise Sony fanboys mashing the disagree button for anything positive, give it a rest and see for yourself.
I can't speak for everyone else but I disagreed with you because you CAN see lag. I don't know why you're dismissing it as practically nothing. It is still noticeable and in hardcore video games, that much lag (even though you claim it's practically nothing) will get you killed. And this is with a very simple program. What happens to the lag when it's a graphically intense game or over the internet?
There is no lag, and the great thing is that the ONE is designed to run the Kinect.
That was the issue with Kinect one, It had its several information mode but the 360 didnt have the processing power to use them all. Thats why you saw hackers doing much better things on Ps than the 360. Because PC didnt have the processing limitation. Maximized Kinect1 could run 2 frames behind 30fps this one is even faster. I am kinect expert I checked all this stuff out.
The ONE is designed to run this thing perfectly thats why it comes with every system now.
The lag you see is in your mind.
The no lag you see, is in YOUR mind.
Like hell the lag is in my mind. I can see it plain as day. All you have to do is watch for a quick movement from an arm or leg and then watch the screen. There is a delay.
I have no fricken horse in this race. I have a 360, PS3 and PC, and I mostly just play PC. I don't care who made the thing, I CAN see lag. I agree that it's definitely better than the first Kinect but it still has lag. The fact that you claim to be a Kinect expert tells me you're an Xbox fanboy. Unless you helped designed the thing, you aren't an expert. You're an enthusiast.
The absence of lag is in your mind.
I own both xbox's and their reveal disappointed me, and I've never owned a playstation because I can't stand dual shock controller.
So no what? I'm not a Sony fanboy at all.....but I still think what Microsoft is doing is really going to hurt their reputation.
All this does is help Nintendo out.
I mean when i saw the kinect skyrim demo with free movement and stuff and then the addition of the occulus rift on and earlier mod with free movement and now we have improved depth and accuracy so those will be all the more better. While im not getting a Xbox one at the moment im most excited for what the modding community does with the device and what developers put out this time.
They sitting making stuff up. There is not 1 second of lag this thing is running solid. This is proof you are in a fantasy world....
I'm done your stupidity is making me stupid.
I'm on hear arguing with people that are clearly full of $hit and making stuff up.
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Wow deluded and defensive.
The lag is there, it's slight but it's still there.
One very precise and descriptive example is at 1:02 when she opens and closes her hand. There it is. That's called lag.
I'm quite impressed with this tech though. If they put it to good use in games, the market that is interested in this type of input is in for a treat. I'm more for the tangible feedback, but like I said the tech is good.
Excited for the holidays to get here.
(IK, paranoid much xD)
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If it's done well, I'm all for it, but I think it obviously has to stay mostly as an option, and work.
And it's still not as accurate as they showed on stage, that skeleton is popping about quite a bit, still a big improvement, maybe this time around it's actually be functional
Most people are just now progressing from sd to hd and most people who own hdtv's don't use it for hd cable, they use it to experience hd videogames/bluray movies.
Basically. The XB1 CAN be your central unit but it does NOT have to be. It CAN only do games, if that is what you want. It CAN be an all-in-one system, if that's what you like.
Just my little 4am rant.