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Microsoft admits they lost the console war with Xbox One

SemiAccurate writes "Xbox One is just announced, while Microsoft admits they have lost the war against Sony PlayStation 4 in the most subtle way during their “reveal event” May 21, 2013."

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Godmars2901225d ago

Getting a virus alert from the link.

Sky_Walker1225d ago (Edited 1225d ago )

Me too...my Norton went off like the 4th of July.

Edit: You night be right...my Norton has went off on me for visiting CNN before so I would not be surprised.

Godmars2901225d ago

Could as well just be your/mine settings.

DarkBlood1225d ago

i have norton 360, the max best you can get i believe? instead of the antivirus second tier package

i havent checked the link yet but i could to see if i get if if you suggest so?

deadpoole1224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

Someone please explain which console is better for gaming.

And I mean using hardware specs of both consoles as a comparison metric.

CRAIG6671224d ago

Why do people use Norton? it's awful!

morganfell1224d ago

Didn't notice site issues as I am on Linux (Ubuntu) with Chrome but the article is actually fairly informative with a middle ground tech breakdown (not layman and not engineer).

Aquanox1224d ago

Don't worry. Nothing to see here.

We can't make our minds before E3.

inveni01224d ago

This is actually a nice write up. And I'm not getting a virus warning, but I'm on a Mac right now, and so I don't even have anti-virus...

loulou1224d ago

because of my gf, we get free kapersky... and that just blocked the site

GT671224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

lol, everybody know this article is fake and now talking about Norton anti-virus haaaaaaaaaaaa

I'll put it out there guys bluntly!!!!!! whoever buy X1 is a damn fool!!!! simple as that.

waltercross1224d ago

I use Windows defender in Win 8, It works good for me and no Virus warning on that website.

NatureOfLogic1224d ago

Anyone else getting their n4g submissions blocked? I seem to be the only one.

pixelsword1224d ago

Even if there was a virus, it's worth the virus.

Muerte24941224d ago

proponents were saying that the ESRAM would push it pass PS4 176GB/s.

"All wrong. The devil is deep in the details, remember the large chunk of eSRAM for the graphics? So the Xbox One system uses 16 pieces of Micron “D9PNZ” DDR3 memory modules on-board, a little Google search give us the exact model number being MT41J256M16HA-093, which is 4 Gbit density modules running at an I/O frequency at 1066 MHz, that’s DDR3-2133 data rate for those who don’t know, and these modules will provide 34.132 GB/s bandwidth under a dual-channel configuration. And thus, the eSRAM contributes over 166 GB/s bandwidth. However, the two numbers were added up for obvious marketing purpose, and in reality the two numbers should be seen in parallel with each other because, as we mentioned earlier, the GPU will treat the eSRAM as a very-fast last level cache, so the bandwidth here doesn’t serve the CPU cores at all."

This was just a PR move, and actually misleading. CPU doesn't benefit from the extra bandwidth, only the GPU.

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iamtehpwn1225d ago

saw this after I clicked the link, have no virus protection, fml.

TwistedMetal1224d ago

a lot of people bash nortons but it actually works. them other virus packages dont work that well because i got a virus using the other stuff and had to reinstall the os and such just to get rid of it. sometimes some little computer tricks work to get rid of a virus and such but you get tired of searching for it and getting rid of it manualy. with norton you dontn have to do a dang thing catches everything all the time.

with that said xbox one lost next gen just need ignorant gamer fanboys to realise this and get the better consoles. but some are so stupid they get tricked by tv crap and sports crap they already have and they get fooled by kinect crap to. how is milo working for you guys now?

Godmars2901224d ago

There are free AV programs out there.

http://us.avira.com/

onyoursistersback1224d ago

Get get Microsoft essentials it's free!!! And works great!!

Arai1225d ago

That's because Sony planted Agent Phil to sabotage XBone's reveal event :P

https://twitter.com/KazHira...

That's a fake account btw, time will tell how MS/Sony's choices pan out for them.
Maybe they have a winning formula maybe they don't.

hulk_bash19871225d ago

It's too early to call, these "articles" are pure and undeniable flamebait. Lets give Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo a chance to clarify and show us their real plans for Next Gen.

YNWA961224d ago

The big 3 have different visions. I am a gamer, but want more from my machine these days. Interesting features, I will probably get Xbox One, eventually PS4 too. Was never really a Nintendo fan but they did have some games you just had to play. I am sure though Microsoft were close to a lot of develepors when designing this, so there must be more to come. Sony was in a bad spot after PS3, so they had to tend to the people more so.... next few months should be fun...

FriedGoat1224d ago

I didn't see any interesting features. PS4 for me, I want games not TV and crappy motion control.

pabadamus11224d ago

The article itself was actually a good read. I wouldn't go as far to say that MSFT has lost any battles but their reveal does show a skewed focus towards television entertainment. I am not an alarmist so I do not believe MSFT has abandoned core games or gamers but it does appear that our interests have become a smaller portion of the pie.

GamersRulz1225d ago

Haha,they called Xbone (The big bulky boring black box) BBBBB or 5B for short!

Funny

MoveTheGlow1224d ago

Right? And here we were months ago, watching Microsoft pick on Sony for not showing a black box. And then theirs looks like some late 80's Betamax player that lost its wood-grain finish after someone took it from their Grandma's house and moved cross-country. Meanwhile Sony starts posting teaser videos about their box, and even the blurry thing's more pleasing to the eye. Nice try, Xbone.

PtRoLLFacE1225d ago

and i though i was alone haha no!...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1224d ago

The are rebooting xbox and want to forget what it was. Now xbox 1 is something else.

Syntax-Error1224d ago

Last time I checked the PS3 had better specs than the 360 and we saw who won that one, so STOP with the mindless comparisons. No one is going to know shit until E3. You people don't even know what the PS4 will look like. It's not like they haven't drop the ball in that dept before.

Hicken1224d ago

Last time I checked, PS3 was ahead of the 360 in lifetime sales, even with a year less time on the market,and with a few more years of support to go, so stop with the uninformed comments.

It's almost a month before E3, and we know quite a bit already. If you don't know shit, that's your fault for remaining ignorant, as there's information aplenty to be found.

They dropped the ball on console looks before? When was that?

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF1224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

Lol.... so now it's sales over quality. Have to love sony fans. That was bound to happen when two Forzas spanked GT5 in rating scores. About to happen with a new gen Forza versus a last gen GT6.

Also guess by Hicks thinking that Uncharted sucked because it didn't sell as much as other 360 exclusives. Lol..

Waller1224d ago

C'mon, Syntax-Error. You know sales mean nothing, especially since Sony didn't make it up until they drastically dropped the price. It also took Sony seven years to catch up to Microsoft, that one year headstart not withstanding. This isn't a simple numbers game, and once fans start pulling sales figures to justify which system is better, you know it's a losing battle.

SexyGamerDude1224d ago

Yeah, sales mean nothing. But the fact that MS wants to put restrictions on the gamer does. This isn't about sales or specs. It's about who cares for the gamer more. MS loses.

waltercross1224d ago

What people forget is that it was MUCH harder to develop for the PS3 then the 360, also price point was higher.

The PS4 is coming out around the same time as XBO and is equally much easier to Develop for.

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SegaSaturn6691224d ago

Nonsense! Godmars has nothing to fear from viruses!

Case-in-point: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

IntelligentAj1224d ago

Firefox and NoScript work wonders

FATALVISI0N1224d ago

My Kaspersky went off to saying it's a phishing alert

Kaneda1224d ago

I am on a MAC.. I got nothing...

malokevi1224d ago

LMAO.

Wen't into the article expecting a quote from MS... didn't see one. Just some guy making preposterous claims.

MS will win. PS4 may ALSO win... but MS will come out on top. At least here in North America.

Gaming is an expensive hobby. Some of us have the money/resources that will make the Xbox360 the ULTIMATE gaming console. XBL is already looking leagues better then PSO, not to mention the media/apps/dash/tv/multiproces sing POWERHOUSE that is the new UI.

This is innovation. Couple that with an amazing suite of games (and as of yet unforeseeable advancements in the persistent world MMO field that Xbox Live will allow), and there is nothing that will stand in the way of this console.

Certainly not a few people constantly complaining on the internet about how they need to always be on the internet. Certainly not people who bash an as-of-yet undetermined used game policy (for both consoles). Certainly not people who rely on borrowing their friends games to play. And definitely not from impoverished/3rd world peoples who can't afford the base costs, never mind the internet access.

This product is not for everyone. Its for truly modern people who are always multi-tasking and love videogames at the same time. People like ME!

You can't handle it? WiiU and PS4 will be there for you to remain isolated from the ether.

Psn8001224d ago

I used my Ipad4 no anti virus prob yeah crazy or what , yeah they have lost the console war when I went on to a hardcore Xbox site they all agreed barr one or two that ms have wrecked the Xbox .

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DivineAssault 1225d ago (Edited 1225d ago )

Great article.. I do believe it is intended for a different audience as well because they obviously turned their back on core gaming long ago & realize thats sonys playground

iGAM3R-VIII1225d ago

agreed, it is more towards TV people who pay a somewhat to decent amount of games.

http://cdn2.dualshockers.co...

http://i.imgur.com/7tmSCjo....

http://playstationer.net/wp...

gamelover51225d ago

OMG I was dying of laughter on the last one I watched it in slow mo cause my internet was slow and it made it so much more hilarious

Agent_00_Revan1224d ago

Oh god that Airplane one was fantastic!

CommonSenseGamer1225d ago

If Vita sales represent core gamer sales then I doubt MS could give a damn.

Kingthrash3601225d ago

wow common why you always picking on the vita? go play with your tablet and save for the 5B

KwietStorm1225d ago

How convenient that you use the Vita, a completely irrelevant system in context, in your argument lol.

Objective1225d ago

Agreed that Vita is an irrelevant system.

Outside_ofthe_Box1225d ago

Yeah no surprise he brings it up all the time considering...

http://n4g.com/news/1145528...

lol

kenshiro1001224d ago

What does the Vita have to do with the article?

Go get some fresh air.

AJ Hartley1224d ago

Commonsensegamer you are the biggest whoppa on here read your other comments haha utter nonsense your name should be.

Ju1224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

Looks like that's the new baseline for the one expectation left ;)

True, it'll be tough to beat the Vita with that one.

NarooN1224d ago

>mentions Vita even though it has nothing to do with 5B or PS4
>fails to realize even the Vita is a better console than the 5B

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Legion1225d ago (Edited 1225d ago )

Leo Yim is saying that Xbox has already lost the console war with Xbox one... NOT Microsoft.

Totally speculative interpretation of events at the reveal that have been turned into some false claim that Microsoft has bowed out before the players have hit the field.

The web sight is called http://semiaccurate.com/ for a reason. They don't care about being correct.

joeorc1224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

really?

They are saying it because of Microsofts focus!
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The web sight is called http://semiaccurate.com/ for a reason. They don't care about being correct. "

read and learn

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About Us

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http://semiaccurate.com/abo...

and the breakdown is pretty [email protected] correct, because they saw the system opened up, how else would they know the make and model numbers of the chip i/o or the exact freaking hard drive model.

they know more about the hardware than you..that is the truth.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT FROM A HARDWARE PERSPECTIVE NOT FROM A MARKET SALES PERSPECTIVE!

IT IS CLEAR if you look at the hard ware from bothe companies who built the machine mainly for gaming, and who built a entertainment box...that is the truth Sony' ps4 is a concentrated for games, Microsoft's hardware is concentrated toward living room entertainment, which does include games but is not the main focus! because if it was your box would not have three OS's running all at the same time eating system resources.

for a games machine!

DeadlyFire1224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

I agree.

Halo 5 drops and Microsoft will survive.

To me just glancing at all three perspective consoles. It looks like PS4 will have a PS2 generation boom this time around. As all eyes are on Sony. Xbox One could do amazing well once its games are set for launch. Its graphics while yes less than PS4 will still be stellar to console diehards.

ZBlacktt1224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

How about you learn to read kid. You like the guy who wrote the story is just saying they lost based on what MS talked about. It's his "opinion".

Seen your reply below.... Just go. You jump the gun and now look like a fool.

Legion1224d ago

@joeorc

The title... "Microsoft admits they lost the console war with Xbox One" a totally false statement that Yim tries to make you believe by a few words here and a few MS decisions there.... but not a single truth to the fact that MS has admitted losing before the game started. It is bull shit. Regardless of what some of the hardware specs present the story itself is bullcrap.

joeorc1224d ago (Edited 1224d ago )

" Yim tries to make you believe by a few words here and a few MS decisions there.... but not a single truth to the fact that MS has admitted losing before the game started. It is bull shit. Regardless of what some of the hardware specs present the story itself is bullcrap. "

Look while i agree from a stand point of Microsoft PR not out right saying it, that does not take away from the fact in a Q&A with microsoft engineer's stating what the chips GPU instruction/ clock cycle was. that was specific enough to state what it could do.

in the Q&A engineering event, you know the guys who developed and designed the [email protected] hardware stated

"So the GPU can do 768 operations in a single cycle, that means 768 scalar ALUs based off the GCN architecture."

that is 12 compute unit's! while Sony's system has 18 compute unit's you cannot be any more direct to the point then that.

Look the fact that Microsoft did not come right out and say from a hardware perspective that their system is not as robust as the PS4 does not mean it does not take away from the fact that it is!

does that take away from the system's enjoyment, no, but it does show you or give you a guage of performance of the system.

on paper the PS3 was a more powerful system but unless 3rd party development studios has a Game engine made for the cell, it was not going to take any real advantage of such processor's functionality!

you can call it how ever you want it, but the truth of the matter is Sony's PS4 is concentrated as a games machine, and Microsoft's is an all in one computer entertainment system. Nothing wrong with that, hell the PS3 is an all in one computer entertainment system and at the very start you seen all the flack it was said about the PS3 right from the start and exactly what is being said about the XboxOne aside from not being hard to develop for. which is a good thing that its not HARD TO DEVELOP for

Legion1224d ago

@joeorc

Listen to yourself.

The point is not wether MS or PS3 is going to win or which is more powerful. The point here is that he stated "Microsoft admits they lost the console war with Xbox One" which they did not in any fashion. he might think they are going to lose... but in no way. Zero, Nil, did MS come out and hold a press conference to say they were admitting defeat. It just didn't happen.

Did Nintendo admit defeat when they presented the Wii to the public against the Ps3 and Xbox 360 specs? No... because they knew what they focused their product on and what they were going to be able to accomplish.

Thinking Microsoft might have some clue what they are doing... even though I myself might not agree with many portions of it.

longcat1225d ago

Microsoft has been stepping down their gaming focus for a while now. Also, it was always known that the xbox was a trojan horse for them to eventually deliver media content to the living room.

I just wonder if the market has changed and their plans have not....i haven't watched tv in years

Godmars2901225d ago

The only Trojan Horse that worked in recent history was the DVD drive on the PS2. Because it was applied subtly. Unconsciously. Not rammed down the public's throat like MS has done with Kincet and everything else.

adorie1225d ago

Blu-Ray trojan horse also won. It was such a victory for Sony and the BDA that even the Xbox One has it inside.

SegataSanshiro1224d ago

How's the Kinect shoved down our throats? Nobody is forcing you or anybody else to buy it or play it. Everyone knows its for casuals and its games suck.

xursz1224d ago

To answer your question, Segata, XBone apparently doesn't work without Kinect. So if you want the console and not Kinect, it is by definition "shoved down your throat".

Waller1224d ago

Xursz, it's not shoved down our throats. Just because it's included with every Xbox One and (possibly) required to operate, doesn't mean you have to use it. Just have it sitting on your TV and be done with it. Nobody is forcing you to buy Kinect-only titles or even forcing developers to put Kinect in their games.