Microsoft needs to 'win' at E3 or say goodbye to their customers

Hardcore Gamer: If Microsoft were smart, they’d change their outlook between now and E3 or at least be honest and confess that they’re trying to set-up their consumers. They should speak more about the console itself and give concrete details about how the disc locking and selling of used games will work.

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BigFnHooters1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

"If Microsoft were smart, they’d change their outlook"

The depth of the self delusion is staggering.

It's been four years of the same exact self delusion.

"Next E3 Microsoft is finally going to deliver!"

Consoles and their supporting structure take years to develop and set in motion. What you see right now from Microsoft IS IT.

* Microsoft has shut down almost all of their non-shovelware first party studios. So all this babble about 'showing more games' have to come from somewhere. There simply aren't secret Microsoft first party studios that can magically make these new franchises

* Microsoft has given up on the Asian market so there are no new franchises coming out from developers in that market

* The only possible area for Microsoft is what they've used as a crutch for the past decade - buying Xbox ports of PC games and pass them off as 'exclusives'

* The weak Xbox One hardware was finalized a long time ago and isn't going to change outside of Microsoft canceling launch this year. Nothing is going to change on that front.

Enemy1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

Everyone's waiting for the PS4 reveal now. E3 belongs to Sony.

Considering how close E3 is now, Microsoft could have just gone all out today and disappoint at E3 again. It's become a normal thing for them anyway. Instead of impressing, they display this oversized VHS thing with no games, a bunch of TV features in which 3GB of the console will be wasted on leaving only 5GB of RAM for gaming, Kinect expanded meaning more Kinect games, more voice recognition, offline pass (lol), and Call of Duty DLC as their main event.

A clusterf*ck in every regard, and a bad, bad time for it to happen to make matters worse.

4 > One

Edit: Lol @ below.

ApolloTheBoss1642d ago

LOL look what I found. Next Xbox in a nutshell.

scofios1642d ago

Extra fee for playing used games WTF;

you might even have to pay extra fees for a red ring this time.

maxgamehard1642d ago

I believe that Sony will have the best conference but Nintendo will also bring a good amount of content

Sony and Nintendo still care about the core gamer at the end of the day.

Freak of Nature1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

It really was a true clusterf*ck....

As a original box and 360 owner this show was exactly what I "did not" want to see...

Start the show with Gears 4, that's how you start the new gen, end it with halo 5, throw in Forza in the middle, something like this, break up the features, yada yada yada...

How about an appearance of Banjo alive and well on the next XBOX1 from Rare? Throw in Black tusk's new IP? They could show more at E3 still, they should have won over fans now, why only at E3? They could have still added looks into these games at E3, plus held back a couple other games...Add 15 minutes to the show, you mean to tell me that fans would actually mind that extra 15 minutes to be able to see 3/4/5 or system selling IP's coming in year 1?

The avoidance of showing more gpu and cpu specs is glaring too....

And just what are the 15 exclusives in year 1? I certainly hope it is "not" the list below. I would hope it would be all hardcore, but get this feeling it will be more like the list below...

Forza 5
Gears of War 4
Halo 5
Rare game
Quantum Break
Black Tusk Game
Fable 4

A couple Kinect Exclusive's...
And about 5 XBLA exclusives...

VenomousHail1642d ago

@maxgamehard I agree with you that Sony will have the best conference, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo will not be present at E3.

insomnium21642d ago

Who the HELL wants to give voice commands to a console? It's embarassing to a whole new level.

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Pyrrhus1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

Im just curious how many of their 15 'exclusives' are actually Kinect games.

BABYLEG1642d ago

There's no such thing as Kinect games. Its called Xbox one games. One system.

Man-E-Faces1642d ago

I would bet half of those are Kinect games, and let me tell you why I can assume this. You don't pack a Kinect in every box and not support it, otherwise Microsoft would still sell it separate as it is now. Kinect now that it's more improved & included will hold more precedent over a traditional controller only game.

EVILDEAD3601642d ago

Nah. They may lose this fanblogger, but they set themselves up good for a great E3.

It goes without saying that, both MS and Sony have to have a great E3 after both of their reveals though.


cyguration1642d ago

No Sony doesn't have to have a great E3, they just need to show a few more games, a price point and the console itself. That's it. They've got it in the bag.

Unlike MS I know EXACTLY what Sony will be about with the PS4 and it's about the games. I love that. They're working to bring back mid-budget games, which were stamped out due to all the money-chasing this gen. They're bringing in more indies and setting the price ceiling at $60 and the barrier of entry at free-to-play, with EVERYTHING else in between.

Microsoft didn't mention squat about game pricing, they didn't mention squat about game availability. Nothing about tools, nothing about game functionality, feature proofing or future proofing. NOTHING.

I'm sorry but MS has A LOT to show at E3 to warrant any interest out of this disgruntled gamer.

Sony just has to stay the line and they'll be all right. They've already won against MS for as far as I'm concerned unless MS takes a huge step in the opposite direction.

Gaming shouldn't be about buzzwords and marketing ploys. I don't spend my money on crap just so some shareholder can buy a golden yacht.

rainslacker1642d ago

MS is going to have to spend an inordinate amount of time at the Next E3 trying to spin, or better yet convince, all the stuff coming out today as a good thing for the gamer. If E3 is about the games, then well no game in the world is going to make me want an Xbox given what is currently known about it.

Hell, Sony could not do a conference this year ala Nintendo and probably still come out ahead of MS given current news.

Army_of_Darkness1642d ago

If you seriously think sony needs to have a great e3 showing as well even after you've just seen the xbox one reveal, then you clearly are a ms fanboy rather than a gamer.
Wake up bro! Sony's conference slaughtered ms's! And the sad thing is that they went after sony and still bombed!

EVILDEAD3601642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

Nah. it's 3 weeks prior to E3 and over 6 months prior to launch, MS is perfectly fine.

But, make no mistake, MS has to bring it's A-game to E3.

They said they were using E3 to concentrate on the games, well that's what they need to do.

If they squash the quirky stuff, show great games at E3, then the One is going to fly off the shelves.

But, if they phone it in which there is no indication that they will, then it's going to be an uphill battle.



@ Army of Darkness

Nah. In my opinion, Sony did exactly what they were supposed to as well in Feb. The hardware stole the show, but they held off on showing the big dogs till E3 as well.

Nothing exempts any of them from needing a good showing at E3.

I didn't see any knockout punches from any of the reveals.

But we all know what franchises Sony has been holding on to for the last 3-4 years.

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The_Blue1642d ago

Why is there so much hate for the Xbox?
I don't get it? Its up to the developers. Its always been about games nothing else.

Army_of_Darkness1642d ago

"Its always been about games nothing else."

Exactly the reason why everyone is hating on the xbox one and loving the ps4.
Did you even watch the ps4 reveal??

Virtual_Reality1642d ago

And blocking used games.......

tuglu_pati1642d ago

MS is in deep trouble. I thought Nintendo was in trouble but MS just dug up a deeper hole.

ugly name
bad console design
weak specs
no games
casual oriented

At least Nitendo has a great first party catalog. MS better say "adios" because I dont think they'll make it through this next gen and this is coming from an xbox enthusiast.

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Ghost_of_Tsushima1642d ago

People will still buy it no matter what. I see Xbox fans defending the stupidest stuff. You think they would want more from their platform but sometimes I wonder.

BigFnHooters1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

I'm sure there are still going to be some hardcore Xbox fans in the US and UK who will still buy this disaster of a console.

But Microsoft came in last place this gen despite:

* Rushing out their console a year early, a year and a half in Europe to pad out their installed base

* Millions and millions of duplicate consoles due to the RRoD fiasco and other hardware problems. The average Xbox 360 owner has some 4-5 different models they've bought(not including free Microsoft replacements)

* The PS3 was 200 dollars more expensive than the Xbox 360.

All that and Microsoft still ended up in last place this gen. If Microsoft has none of that going for it this gen and with the Xbox One getting the worst reaction from gamers in a console reveal in history it is hard to imagine Microsoft not crashing and burning this gen.

Godmars2901642d ago

They're in last place worldwide. They're #1 in the US and UK.

And given that their main goal seems to be to get their console into livingrooms, then get those households to pay for XBL which is largely free money for them, I don't MS will care very much they do with games or the world market so long as their overall profit margin is large and embedded.

Sarick1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

I remember reading somewhere that MS had set goals for 3 generations.

1st XBOX survive the market.
2nd XBOX 360 become a major player.
3rd XBOX ONE dominate the gaming market.

Did they accomplish any of this. Up until the second gen I think they did. The third gen goal is up for grabs. It seems a lot of people are hating on this new XBOX.

Don't get me wrong, the only Xbox I ever touched was one that was sent to me by mistake when the company reset solder on my PS3 FAT so I could transfer files to my new slim.

It's hard to tell. The advantage MS Xbox one has over PS4 starting out s it's fully backwards compatibility with Xbox 360.

Other then that I wouldn't assume the next big winner. I just know I have no plays buying the new XBOX. The PS4 is is looking very stylish so, I might just get one of those.

forcefullpower1642d ago

The Xbox one is not BC at all.

Sarick1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

Damn that's news to me. I just found out. I assume this was announced a few hours ago. Since it's not BC that makes it less attractive.

Anyway, my main point is/was that MS has a goal to dominate after their 3rd gen.

After watching the reveal I came to the conclusions that it's more or less a PC like media center with proprietary software that plays games.

Some of the features are impressive but that's not really what makes good games.

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The_Blue1642d ago (Edited 1642d ago )

Im trying to understand the hate for the XBOX ONE?

Do you guys really just want ps4 with no competition?

Surely, no conflict will be bad.

Way too many fanboys on here, not enough facts.

VenomousHail1642d ago

I would love for there to be some competition between Sony and Microsoft. To be competitive Microsoft needs to show games, because gamers are the ones buying the consoles. Also blocking used games or charging a "fee" to play them, to go along with the always connected box puts them in a terrible position.

OSIRUSSS1642d ago

The Xbox has never been comp for the PS brand. 3rd every Gen bares this fact out. After today's events it sure as hell ain't changing next Gen!

Reborn1642d ago

They need to provide some clarity, before that.

jc485731642d ago

it's like a deadly virus they are hiding from us.

001642d ago

they can't do that without paying a fee.

Rusty5151642d ago

Usher's gotta dance his ass off at E3 after that reveal..

Agent_00_Revan1642d ago

I don't think even Usher and his moves can save the One. Not even taking off his shirt.

Rusty5151642d ago

Then Microsoft has to bring out the big guns...Justin Bieber to showcase dance central 4 running on the new kinect 2.0

Agent_00_Revan1642d ago

A little late for that.

I said goodbye the moment they decided to block used games. Let alone the always connected policy.