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Submitted by RyuCloudStrife 430d ago | opinion piece

EA Sports Bob Summerwill Said the "Wii U is Crap", Should Nintendo Announce a New Console?

The Wii U has gotten a very bad reception from the fanbase and from many developers, the latest of which was EA Sports senior software engineer Bob Summerwill, who called the Wii U "crap" via twitter. In the twitter timeline he also claimed that "Nintendo is still operating like its 1990", I completely agree. Nintendo is so off right now it is best if they scrap all Wii, Wii U related projects and just start from anew. (EA, Nintendo, Wii U)

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Nyxus  +   430d ago
" Consumers have flocked to other platforms and the kids of today play Call of Duty not Mario."

What? Mario is still bigger than COD.
IanVanCheese  +   430d ago
Pretty sure Mario is riding on borrowed time though. It's kept alive by aging gamers whereas COD is attracting new fans.
Root  +   430d ago
The difference is people like Mario because of his games and who he is while the majority of people only like COD because their friends like it, and their friends friends and so on....COD is just a social gimmick, it's more of a trend then it is a game.
abzdine  +   430d ago | Well said
they should announce a new console because His Majesty Bob Summerwill Said the "Wii U is Crap"??

This is the most stupid thing i have ever heard! Wii U has its fans, and Nintendo consoles have always been selling in the long term. Wait until 3D marios and a new Zelda are announced to see how much of these they will sell. All this without price cut

I dont give a damn about EA games, all i have interest in is great gaming experiences and Nintendo consoles have always given some of the most unforgettable jewels
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Rhaigun  +   430d ago
IMO, Nintendo should scrap home consoles and concentrate on their handheld market.
14Feb-R  +   430d ago
Root is right. I only buy cod now because my friends play it. It's just a tool to me to do something with my friends . I don't consider it a game anymore because it's not fun. It's annoying because the gameplay doesn't make sense any more. It's too simple and easy..

I don't care about mario too lol , I only like the old one and i can play it almost everywhere..
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THEMIGHTYDOOVDE  +   430d ago
What? Mario is still bigger than COD.

BLOPS 2 sold 11m copies,

Mario Kart Wii sold 33m copies... nuff said!
Gamer-Z  +   430d ago
I have to agree with Root, COD is more of a social trend and will eventually die out when the casuals lose interest in it like they did with guitar hero. Where as Mario & Zelda can go on for ages because they are the mascots of gaming.
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RFornillos4  +   430d ago
agree with Root here. COD and the likes are popular because a lot of your friends say they are. and i meant no disrespect to COD fans (or BF fans, alike); i'm as much of a fan of FPS games and play a lot of COD and BF whenever I can -- but I admit that playing it has a different sense of enjoyment, as compared to enjoying a race with Mario Kart, or having to complete all the stars of Super Mario Galaxy. The latter giving a sense of deeper fulfillment.
jsslifelike  +   430d ago
Is this really an "article" I'm reading right now??
BattleAxe  +   429d ago
I grew up with Mario on the NES, but back then platformers were the "big thing". Today shooters are the "big thing". I don't know anyone who really anticipates the next big platformer. I can see myself pluging in my NES and playing some Super Mario Bros., and I can see parents who own a Wii getting their kids to play Super Mario Bros., but other than that, and other than people like Furious Francis who live in an alternate universe most of the time, people simple do not play those games on home consoles anymore.
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RyuCloudStrife  +   430d ago
Mario is not bigger than Call of Duty, sorry to burst your bubble.
PopRocks359  +   430d ago | Well said
That's pretty ignorant. Mario is the face of gaming; if you put his face on a random sign in a store and more often than not, people will know who he is. He's arguably as recognizable as Mickey Mouse.

Also thirty years of best selling games and over 200 million games in the franchise sold speaks volumes over Call of Duty's current stagnation.
yewles1  +   430d ago
"Mario is the face of gaming"

That's like saying Mickey Mouse is the face of Hollywood...
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   430d ago
@ PopRocks

Very "Well Said"
abzdine  +   430d ago
in terms of fun Mario is 100000 times bigger
admiralvic  +   430d ago
CoD might sell better, but Mario is bigger than CoD and that's just a fact. Not only is Mario recognizable (vs CoD's generic military men, even the named people can easily be mistaken for anyone else in a military setting), but he has withstood the test of time.

People know who Mario is, what he relates to and is one of the few truly iconic gaming characters. Another would be Pacman, though I can't think of anyone else who would be on the same tiering as those two.
Phil32  +   430d ago
That is an outright lie, which makes your whole article look even more idiotic.

I'm sure killing off a platform that's not even a year old would give gamers, investors, and fans a lot of confidence in future Nintendo products. Wait a minute. No, it would do just the opposite. This article comes off as some stupid fanboy rant from someone who doesn't even understand the basics of the industry.
Phil32  +   430d ago
""Mario is the face of gaming"

That's like saying Mickey Mouse is the face of Hollywood..."

Not really because Mickey Mouse didn't help save a dying industry, isn't the highest selling movie series like Mario is the highest selling video games series of all time.

False equivalency, much?
Oh_Yeah  +   430d ago
Are you serious? Mario games are exclusive and they still outsell cod by millions. Highest selling cod game this gen= 16 million. Highest selling Mario game this gen= 33 million. Cod isn't even half as big as Mario is man.
RFornillos4  +   430d ago
no offense, I love COD and BF; but just to add to @PopRocks359, 30 years from now, when you plaster a wall with a picture of Mason/Soap/Ghost and Mario, who do you think people will recognize more?

@yewles1, not saying Mickey Mouse is the face of Hollywood; but similarly, Mickey will garner more recognition compared to others. But yes, Mickey Mouse may not be the face of Hollywood; but in the world of animation, he's an iconic character, and can be considered "the" face for animation.
RFornillos4  +   430d ago
EDIT: removed, as accidentally double-commented...
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deafdani  +   430d ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Best selling Call of Duty to date: Black Ops, with 12 million sales on 360 and little more than 3 million on PS3.

Best selling Mario game on Wii: New Super Mario Bros Wii, with more than 27 million copies sold.

And you talk about "bursting bubbles". Next time do a little research before making a fool of yourself.
legendoflex  +   429d ago
Depends. Call of Duty has pumped out more titles which have managed to maintain a growing fanbase.

But the biggest Mario games have managed to demonstrate virtually unstoppable longevity, without having to spend tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars annually to sustain them.
wiiu2 will be just as good as ps4!
lilbroRx  +   430d ago
The next console from Nintendo will not be announced until at least 2017 and it will definitely outperform the PS4/720.

You an take that to the bank. Can't say by how much, but it will not be just as good. It will be better.
exfatal  +   430d ago
wiiu2 willl be just a powerful as ps4 and bring more to gaming then ps5
Conzul  +   430d ago
Well, WiiU's failing isn't its hardware. Nintendo games have never needed much horsepower because of their art direction.

WiiU needs lots of pretty games. Pretty =/= realistic.
yeahokchief  +   429d ago
I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you think the Wii U is going to last another 4 years.

That is straight up insane.

You ALREADY have third parties not porting to it because it's underpowered and has such a small following.

They went with a gimmick over games to woo casuals again. It didn't work. I'm sorry you wasted your money.
DeadlyFire  +   429d ago
WiiU is almost 20 times more powerful than Wii.

To Nintendo this is next generation. They have never advanced so far with hardware.

Now if they did that again for next generation after this one they could have a real 3rd party contender. Right now Nintendo's console is primarily just for Nintendo gamers with Ubisoft sticking in there. They could pull a real golden ticket to Nintendo fans buying their games with no other real 3rd party competition on board.

Its to early to pull the curtain over WiiU just yet. Its hardware might not be super, but its comparable to last gen CPU wise. GPU on the other hand is its only real factor that adds to it. It will only be noticeable by developers when their console lands 10+ Million sold I believe.
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sync90  +   429d ago
They've only just released the wiiU. what are you talking about?
Persistantthug  +   430d ago
If Nintendo wants to stay in the home console business...
Then at some point, sooner rather than their usual 5 years, Nintendo is probably going to have to announce a new console.

I used to predict that the Wii U would sell less than the Gamecube....but at this rate, I'm almost ready to predict that it will sell less than the DREAMCAST.

I don't think Nintendo should just up and abandon the Wii U, but if they want to stay in and stay at least somewhat relevant in the HOME CONSOLE market, a new, and better thought out and planned console is going to be needed.
exfatal  +   430d ago
what more relevant then something that uses a touch pad, and offers u gaming and connects you to the internet?
admiralvic  +   430d ago
Simple logic time...

The Wii U has little to no games that anyone wants, which in turn makes the console and stay with me please, sell poorly. When we get Pikmin 3, Mario Party U, Mario Kart U and Super Smash Bros U, then and only then will we have an idea of how well the system will do. If you don't believe me, look at the 3DS. The system was flat lining over a lack of games, high price and weak specs. Now that the system got a price drop and several quality titles, you no longer see the 3DS is doom articles and we in turn see the Vita is dead articles.
THEMIGHTYDOOVDE  +   430d ago
Replacing Nintendo with Sony would make your comment far more honest and realistic.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   430d ago
Mario is bigger than Cod from franchise standpoint.
Lior  +   430d ago
lol true COD is much bigger in terms of sales than the plumber mario
Moonman  +   430d ago
Mario will be around AFTER COD burns away!

Mario Kart Wii sold 34 million.....name a COD that can do that on multiple consoles let alone ONE platform!!!!
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Kennytaur  +   430d ago
The fact that kids today play CoD saddens me. It just shows how little age restrictions matter to people, and parents in particular. Oh, and Mario beats the living daylights out of Call of Duty any day of the week.
guitarded77  +   430d ago
Mario is more well known and established, but Mario is not turning CoD money at this point. It's just a fact.

On topic: No, Nintendo should NOT announce a new console. The Wii U still has potential to make a good profit for Nintendo. If they would just concentrate on making great 1st party games, and secure 3rd party support from pubs willing to work with them, like Ubi, CAPCOM and SEGA.

The majority of Wii U owners like myself didn't buy the console to play Battlefield on it... we play that elsewhere (where our friends are). I bought the damn thing to play Nintendo exclusives, and some exclusive JRPG's. As long as Nintendo can provide those, they will make a profit over the next 4-5 years. The 3DS has had a turnaround based on 3DS exclusives, and a lower price.

HOWEVER, Nintendo needs to get their crap together with online, and pro-controller support. Miiverse needs social site features so it works with Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc. Nintendo Network needs trophy support, VC needs widescreen. These are just a few examples of where Nintendo falls behind against 7+ year old consoles, and it makes the Wii U's network feel like a dinosaur.
ijust2good  +   430d ago
Nintendo should try there luck one last time and release a new console next year or completely get out of the console business for good while they still have money left.

Wii U is looking like a serious flop. A flop that might have serious concussion for the company. Nintendo cannot possibly live off First Party games for the entire duration of next gen. Nintendo, its time to take Mario to true next gen hardware.

Sega, Atari and many others had there heyday's. They were great during there time but its Nintendo's time to get out of console market and leave with dignity. Mario will be welcomed into PS4 and Xbox 720. Go on Nintendo, its time to focus on games. Just like the old days. No more forced motion sensing and tablet gimmicks. Just good old gaming with a traditional controller.
3-4-5  +   430d ago
Bob...Summe..summe..summerwill not be working here anymore ! lol
donman1  +   429d ago
Nintendo needs to do something surprising for a change and put EA on blast. They just keep on getting slapped in the face and not fight back. The level of negativity surrounding the Wii U is unprecedented. I am surprise Nintendo is doing nothing to turn that around.
Novistador  +   429d ago
It's like comparing apples to mustached oranges.
indysurfn  +   429d ago
blah blah blah another EA employee opens foot and inserts mouth! (OH YES I DIDN'T!)
Not only is Mario bigger, but Wii has sold way more than xbox360 and ps3 world wide.

Seriously, since it came from low class conniving business practice EA, it proves that Nintendo is NOT CRAP, and has some quality that EA wants to kill. So they can be lazy and not support 3 platforms again. But this time they want to kill it so they can have the sales to all customers. Now I'm really thinking of buying a wiiu for a holiday gift! Thanks EA!
3-4-5  +   429d ago
3D Mario, Mario Kart, LoZ U, Super Smash Brothers

People can't complain about Wii U until those release.

Be logical
cee773  +   430d ago
That's suicide
Snookies12  +   430d ago
Yes, announcing a new console now would kill them. I know I'd be pissed as hell, and not want anything to do with Nintendo if I bought a Wii U day one expecting them to support it. Only to find that they announce a new console because it's not doing so well. Though I doubt Nintendo would so something like that.
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Nicholasgliss  +   430d ago
No, not yet. If anything Nintendo will wait a bit and release a next-next gen with like 10gb of ram and whatever else is driving the sales of PS4 and XBOX. Here we go, FIGHT!
NYC_Gamer  +   430d ago
Nintendo wouldn't announce another console this early
LOL_WUT  +   430d ago
What I don't understand is how is it possible for a company who can take many losses (according to the diehards) be under staffed? Seriously Nintendo get your act together.

Well, anyway whatever they do, they need to think of something quick because Pikmin and that 101 game isn't going to cut it. ;)
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   430d ago
Good points.
"Interesting"

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I think they were trying to walk the line of efficiency not wasting resources and that is what left them understaffed.

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And while I can't wait to try W101 and Pikmin -
-If the purpose of the WiiU is to regain some of the "cORE"Players...

They aren't going to do it.

Mostly because their looks won't lead them to try the Gameplay.
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mrbojingles  +   430d ago
Nintendo would lose all confidence consumers have in them if they brought out a new console now. This isn't even remotely a viable solution to their problems. They've got tons of money so if the Wii U does so-so for 4-6 years it will be fine.

Sega did this same thing in the 90's, changing their hardware to 1-up their competitors and look where it got them. Releasing a new console to replace Wii U so soon would destroy Nintendo home consoles.
PopRocks359  +   430d ago
It seems they have already invested a lot in the Wii U and probably have to commit to it. That thing can be marketed better, get more games and sell more units. It would be a total waste to just up and release a new console now (that and I imagine a lot of Wii U owners, myself included, would be pretty frustrated).

EDIT: Also, it's stupid to invest millions in new hardware just because a member of what is arguably the most hated game company in the industry blasted your current system.

That would be like Sony cancelling the PS4 because Nvidia said it had the specs of a low-end PC.
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exfatal  +   430d ago
well said, Nintendo done a bad job advertising, but with the recent best buy promotion, and the big N titles coming out. The Wii U will basically advertise itself during E3 bigger then i can probably imaging. And after E3 its up to nitnendo to advertise their games as long as they do that with Windwaker, 3d mario, mario kart,(wii u fit) smash bro's Wii U will be running through every casuals/"hardcores" mouth by the end of the year. And when that time comes its gonna be price point, and quality games that will make the sales. which ps4 n durango will lack.. (like almost every new console release)
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   430d ago
@PopRocks "Well Said"

@Exfatal "Interesting"

If Nintendo could be shamed by lower specs-
then the Wii would have been replaced looooong ago.

Like them or hate them, Nintendo doesn't really cave to peer pressure.

****Speculating, however, in 4 to 5 years from now their will be a new console from Nintendo.

But I doubt in 4 to 5 years, from now, their will be a new console from Sony- (maybe 6 to 9 years from now).
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sync90  +   429d ago
By the end of 2014 there will be phones more powerfull than the crapU
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DivineAssault  +   430d ago
Now making a new console is just silly to even fathom after they just launched & its also silly to imagine them just giving up all of a sudden BUT they need to make some serious moves if they wish to boost sales.. The console is going to look ancient when the nx gen systems arrive.. Had they just been a bit more serious about its network & hardware, it wouldve been a pretty good machine..

When i play the wii u, it feels dated & tired.. Like a really big 3DS in HD.. Sure the ports of current gen games prove it has some balls but the exclusives theyre releasing make it look like childs play.. If the successful 3DS barely had any 3rd party games that put the 2nd screen to good use besides the map/inventory thing, what makes u think they will do so now all of a sudden? Theyre moving on to the nx gen of gaming & network infrastructure while nintendo is stuck in a time capsule not wanting to get out.. You may be perfectly content if the next new zelda game ends up nothing more than with sharper skyward sword visuals but i will sell the thing if they do that & never buy anything from them again.. The worlds need life, talking characters, amazing visuals, & great controls.. Not just the same thing the wii did but in HD & a gamepad...
jcnba28  +   430d ago
What a stupid article.
-GametimeUK-  +   430d ago
Best headline EVER!
yugovega  +   430d ago
lol this is sad. Nintendo doesn't need a new system with all the new games we all know are coming within the next 2 years. there are more exclusives in the next 2 years then Microsoft put out during the xb360's lifetime.
elhebbo16  +   430d ago
I guess the wiiu is going the gamecube road (sales wise i mean, GC was great).
josephayal  +   430d ago
yes indeed nintendo is sadly dying... i dont want it to die i like all nintendo exclusives
Jek_Porkins  +   430d ago
Well because one unprofessional person working for EA says something negative about the console they should scrap the entire thing huh? Consumer confidence would be shot, and Nintendo would go down in flames.

In business, you will have people who don't like what you're doing, you must overcome that and not let it affect the product itself. When you listen to what this guy from EA says, especially at the end, he sounds like a little kid, especially because he says "third party games don't sell on Nintendo consoles". EA never gave the Wii U a chance, but Nintendo has a good console.

Also, I can still recall Gabe from Valve who said Sony should go back and redo the PS3, and we all know how that turned out. Scrapping a console that millions of people bought, and that is a mere 6 months old would be a terrible idea.
yugovega  +   430d ago
Nintendo could have gta and cod as exclusives and people would still want them gone. thing is they aren't going anywhere. maybe ea is trying to go out of business.
GodsPerfectK7ng  +   430d ago
truth be told. I said it lol!!!
sephx22  +   430d ago
Nintendo should just update the specs of the Wii U and call it the super Wii U. Then release it a year after the PS4/x720. It would be the same thing they did with the 3ds,releasing the 3ds XL a year later.
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Jek_Porkins  +   430d ago
They could never do that, people who would have the original Wii U wouldn't be able to play games built for a higher end Wii U, understand what I'm saying?

They released a larger screen with the 3DS, didn't improve the specs inside. People aren't NOT buying the Wii U based on specs, it has no games right now, and this is traditionally the slow time for games and consoles.
FlyingFoxy  +   430d ago
That would cause too much backlash, what they should've done though is use a quad core cpu instead of the current tri core. I'm pretty certain if they did that it would've cost just a tiny bit more and could have made a big difference. Especially if they beefed up the graphics chip a bit more with it.

It's kind of the opposite of the Dreamcast, because that had the graphical capability to display visuals as good as most PS2 games ages before it even came out. With Wii U it's further behind the times because its closer to last gen than next, but has plenty of storage capacity on it's discs.

I expect first party games should look very good, though i'm not really impressed with Pikmin 3's graphics, i expected it to look better.
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sephx22  +   430d ago
Yeah i guess my solution is not the greatest lol.
Animavicion  +   430d ago
I'm sorry, but to be honest, I do not think anything bad will happen to nintendo. If sales of nintendo "wii u" are not increased, then the life support will be the "3DS" (already sold better than sega genesis, the atari 2600 and the first xbox. Http://goo.gl/rKPLF).
Summons75  +   430d ago
Yes ONE insignificant man in an division of EA that is mostly ignored is the voice of the entire EA when almost all the other devs under EA WANT to devlop for the WiiU and support it.....good going raging "journalist" how about actually reporting news instead of pretending one man speaks for the industry.
ziggurcat  +   430d ago
no, they shouldn't. but the wii U is what nintendo *should* have released 7 years ago...
d3nworth1  +   430d ago
First of all nobody like EA anyway. Theyre a bunch of @$$holes. They still haven't learned from what happen last time the open their mouth. A few years ago some guy who work for EA say that they weren't going to try to make the PS3 version of their sports games run 60fp like the 360. That same year they saw the lowest sales of the ps3 version of their sport games ever while 2k sports saw a rise in their sales. Later on they had the nerve to say he didn't understand why sale were so low on the PS3 version. Wii U cant run frostbite engine is utter BS. The Ps3 and 360 run it. They even got a version for IOS and Android platforms and you mean to tell mean that they cant optimize a version for the Wii U. I havent bought and EA game in 9 years and I would be buying one either!
TheSkullkid  +   430d ago
Bob Summerwill.....you just made the top of my hit list. You're dead, you hear me? DEAD.
Majin-vegeta  +   430d ago
Lol,watch out we got a bad ass over here.
Moonman  +   430d ago
FUCK EA!!
MasterCornholio  +   430d ago
Wow every time I see a comment from you, you always say the same thing.

O.T Many developers think the Wii U is a joke which is something that Nintendo lovers have to get used to. I recall that Mark Rein from Epic games did something similar by laughing at the Wii U.

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Moonman  +   430d ago
Would you rather I change "EA" to "You"? haha
LOL_WUT  +   430d ago
Just report him for being offensive it's what i've been doing. ;)
mamotte  +   430d ago
One month ago:
"EA is the worst company"
And everyone agreed.

Now:
"Someone in EA gives an opinion"
And everyone agree.

Logic.
AdvanceWarsSgt  +   429d ago
That's because he gave a negative opinion about Nintendo.

Regardless had it been factual or not, the anti-Nintendo force (which is basically the entire internet) would have ate it up as if it were gospel.
weekev15  +   430d ago
It bugs me that crap flamebait doom and gloom articles like this get so much attention, when compared to actual news like Nintendo signing an exclusivity deal with 1 of the biggest franchises in gaming history.

Yes I am aware of the irony of me adding to the attention of this ridiculous article.
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Mithan  +   430d ago
We know WiiU is crap.
Theyellowflash30  +   430d ago
Yeah, Nintendo should announce a new console because a guy from EA Sports says it's crap. Mario Galaxy looks better than Madden 13. This guy has no credibility. Just like most of the asshats at EA. Butthurt over Origin
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andrewer  +   430d ago
Says the guy from the worst company in America lol
OrangePowerz  +   430d ago
Not the biggest Wii U fan, but fuck EA.
MilkMan  +   430d ago
LOL. EA Lacks creativity. There are about as lazy as companies get and this is why they fail at life. You telling me that Madden on the WiiU pad is not a match made in heaven?
You'd have to be stupid beyond recognition not to see that.

ts simple these guys don't know their @ss from their elbows and rather than cultivate and open new markets they are sucking on that M$ and Sony bone waiting for a drip to follow.

Didn't EA create a GREAT Madden series on the Wii. It was a step away from being awesome in its on right. They worked within the limitations of the Wii and produced a great football game, now you're telling me that they cant do the same again?

They don't have enough money to pay for the crap they have now, let alone make some creative games.

If they think Nintendo is some fool indie start up company, I feel sad for EA. Basically they grew up on Mario and they should show some respect.

"strong ties with Nintendo?" My @ss.
Blacklash93  +   430d ago
This isn't even a remote possbility. How these amateur blogs calling themselves news outlets even get on N4G in the first place is beyond me.

Nintendo designed their system and there's no turning back. What they need is quality software. They need developer support and people utilizing their unique features on the controller. A price drop would most certainly help, as well.
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