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EA Sports software engineer slams Wii U on Twitter

EA Sports senior software engineer Bob Summerwill calls the Wii U "crap", "Less powerful than an Xbox 360", and more through Twitter comments. (Wii U)

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NYC_Gamer  +   876d ago | Well said
That dude just took Nintendo to the shooting range with those comments
Root  +   875d ago
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abzdine  +   875d ago
i guess only Nintendo can show what Wii U is capable of...

What this EA guy doesn't understand (and i'm amazed he actually doesn't) is that Wii U isn't a console like the others because it's too unique to just be compared to others by power.
it's too bad publishers want easy money by having exactly the same game same code running on 4-5 different consoles
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darthv72  +   875d ago | Funny
did mario
run over this guys dog or what???

I just dont get EA lately.
brave27heart  +   875d ago
Its not about easy money its about the cost of porting over to a different hardware, having to accomodate a tablet controller and not having enough Wii U owners to sell to to make a profit.
LOL_WUT  +   875d ago
EA is going all out on Nintendo with those comments! Bang, bang indeed ;)
ijust2good  +   875d ago
Next Headline
Activision will not bring COD to the Wii U...

The Wii U is for Ninty fans only. Screw everyone else.
aCasualGamer  +   875d ago
I'm pretty sure Sony and Microsoft are screaming their heads off in joy of this Wii U failure. They're seeing an open buffet for all the Nintendo fans wanting a true nextgen console.

Pretty sure this is the beginning of the end of Nintendo as a hardware manufacturer if they screw up on their next launch aswell.

They should really consider going SEGA route. They'd make so much more money.
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I_am_Batman  +   875d ago
To be fair how many EA or Activision games were on the Wii? I don't think Nintendo needs third party at all but they need to change their marketing strategy. I have the feeling that Nintendo still wants to steal PS3 and 360 crowd by selling the Wii-U as a hardcore gamer console with 3rd party support which it isn't. Give up on that idea and care about the Nintendo fans by giving them 3D Mario, Kart, Party, and Zelda games. Nintendo have proven that they can survive on 1st party they just have to bring it.
Crazyglues  +   875d ago
Somebody caught this guy before he had his cup of coffee and he just said, "f*ck it, I'm just going to keep it real"... that Wii U sucks, it's dog sh*t... LMAO

In my best -Dave Chappelle voice -
"Cold Blooded"... LoL (EA just did you dirty Nintendo)


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ABizzel1  +   875d ago

I agree Nintendo fans don't need 3rd party so to speak, and their money and spending habits prove that.

However, they're the first ones to cry fowl when 3rd parties are bring games out to every platform besides Nintendo's, and yet when it comes they won't go buy it.
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thedon8982z  +   875d ago
As someone who was once a HARDCORE Nintendo fan( up to the cycle end of Nintendo 64) ALL I CAN SAY NOW IS RIP.YOU WILL BE GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN!!!!
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KruLLit  +   875d ago
Im sorry to hear that thedon8982z because Wii is the best console in recent history. Yes, I have a PS2 and PS3 and I have to say the PS2 did actually have alot of good games but not as good as the Wii first party games.

I'm hyped to see Nintendos first party games for the Wii U. I'm pretty sure they will be really good.

Who cares about tech anyways? I have a PC for that...
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Utalkin2me  +   875d ago | Well said
People cant stand honesty....oh well. They will get over it.
wishingW3L  +   875d ago
but his comments sound kind of aggressive, he should take it easy and not make the Nintendo fans their enemies.
phantomexe  +   875d ago
If the wiiu is dead then i wonder what he thinks of the vita. I have a feeling lots of people couldn't handle that truth.
lilbroRx  +   875d ago
Exept, Criterion, who also work for EA confirmed that the Wii U is all around stronger than the 360,so how is this honesty?

And pretty much every 3rd party dev/publisher, except EA, mas multiple million sellers on Nintendo consoles.
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phantomexe  +   875d ago
If the wiiu you is dead which it's not then i wonder what he thinks of the vita. I have a feeling, theres alot of people who couldn't handle that truth.
chrismichaels04  +   875d ago | Well said
@phantomexe - this is a WiiU article. You bringing Sony into the conversation while trying to bash the Vita only proves how bitter you are. The difference between the Vita and WiiU is that EA isnt publicly destroying the Vita and is still developing games for the Vita. As a WiiU fan, you need to be worried about your own system and not be worried about whats going on with Sony or Xbox.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   875d ago

Preach to your own choir before you preach to others.
DragonKnight  +   875d ago
@phantomexe: Congrats on being debubbled.

On Topic: This guy isn't going to have a job at EA for much longer.
Ju  +   875d ago
Is pretty simple, isn't it? Nintendo placed the Wii towards the casual, but what's the WiiU targeting? Can't compete in the casual market, and can't beat the PS360 in the "hard core". What's left is the die hard Ninento fans who hope for another Mario or Zelda.

EA is building a bigger mobile portfolio - which Ubi and Activision isn't pushing that much.

That and the resources needed for the next gen platforms simply doesn't leave enough manpower to support yet another console - if you already have two which sell quite OK.

He's absolutely right. Mobile is eating away the casual, Wii is tanking, WiiU is not the next gen casual machine and not strong enough as the next hard core console.

So, EA is targeting the casual by going mobile, supports what they already have and go next gen on the top end. Where in this strategy would the WiiU fit?
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scissor_runner  +   875d ago
This guy will need a job really soon. EA is in trouble not nintendo. Nintendo has 20 million sellers what does EA have that they didn't use against their customers? I mean how do you kill sim city? Well Ask EA... They really think battlefield has a chance against all of the other FPSs? If the other systems stall sales wise EA is officially in life support. If they don't and EA sales decline any more sports fans will rejoice since any one can now make your fav sports into great innovative games.

The Question is what IS EA plan to be profitable? Nintendo has it's fans and EA has a worst company in america reward... Really Origin and EA are about to be a none factor.

If EA can't afford the Wiiu then ubisoft must be rich then huh?

I mean the cry engine works and doesn't need to be tweaked and is even being used in eternal darkness yet EA just can't seem to get it to work for them. This situation reminds me of old people that own a car but forgot how to drive.
ABizzel1  +   875d ago

Not to be that guy, but the Vita has much greater competition than the Wii U, from tablets, cell phones, 3DS, and now multiple gaming devices. Even the 3DS was in trouble until they dropped the price almost $80 and now almost $100.

On top of that the Vita has a 2 million lead on Wii U, for what it's worth.

Both are underperforming, but the Wii U is Nintendo's flagship console, not a secondary device like the Vita and it's struggling to get anything.

I doubt the Wii U is overall less powerful than the PS360, but the CPU is and the RAM set-up prevents it from being significantly better than the PS360, and possibly on par with them in most task.

The lowest end GPU in the Wii U would be the 4650m which is a bit over 300 GFLOPS, with the highest being right at 500 GFLOPS (4670). For comparions the PS360 are around 200 GFLOPS with their GPU's, so the Wii U is more powerful for gaming, but the CPU is so weak that the GPU has to do most of the task the the CPU would do for gaming such as physics which takes away from the GPU's full graphics processing power (which seems to be the only thing the majority of n4g uses to determine power).

This is why the Wii U is often compared to the PS360 as an equal. That's not good for something that's suppose to be their "next-gen" console. And what's upsetting is Nintendo had better options available to them back in 2011 for the same price today in the AMD Llano APU's, and a significant boost in performance with the Trinity APU's in 2012 which they had to have known about.

The Wii U is an underpowered, under performing, under supported console, with 3+ million console owners who won't buy the solid line-up of games available to them if Nintendo's development logo isn't on the cover of the box.

Before complaining about EA comments on the Wii U, go buy Assassin's Creed 3, Need 4 Speed Most Wanted, COD, Monster Hunter, Darksiders 2, Sonic Allstars Racing, Batman Arkham City, Zombi U, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Mass Effect 3, Injustice, and Dragon Quest X. Not a single one of those games have sold over 500k units with most not even breaking 150k, and they're considered Wii-U best sellers.
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AngryEnglish  +   875d ago
@Abizzel we may have disagreed earlier but your 100% correct here, your last paragraph was spot on and a truth that most N fans don't want to admit.

Within 5 years Nintendo will be out of the hardware market, its sad to say that about the oldest gaming company still around, but from a business sense its the only way I can see them making mega $$$, especially with how fast phones and tablets are advancing.

I've said this before but could you imagine how many unit's Nintendo would sell if Mario/Zelda/metroid was multiple platform, they could release a Mario on every device out there and make an absolute fortune
ABizzel1  +   875d ago

I though we had made up already :D

OT: I just tell it like it is. The truth is a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow, because everyone wants to be "Politically Correct", Sugar coat, or afraid to offend someone due to a negative backlash.

It may not be what Nintendo or it's fans want to hear, but it's the hard truth. Nintendo purposely made a weak console, because they had significantly better options for hardware, even if they were aiming for a $300 - $400 max price. But instead they chose that tired old Gamecube CPU from 2000 (13 years old now) and beefed it up again, rather than simply getting an AMD APU with a A6 Quad-Core CPU and 6550d GPU which today is only $70 - $80 for the CPU and GPU. A refurbished 4670 is $50, so does that means the CPU in the Wii U has to be $20 or less to produce showing just how little power matter to Nintendo over saving on production cost or else Nintendo was just plain ignorant.

Af first I though maybe they did it for backwards compatibility with games and peripherals, but the APU CPU is more than powerful enough to run Wii U and Gamecube emulation on the console look no further than Dolphin emulator on PC.

I really don't know what Nintendo was thinking hardware wise. But the fans kill me with all this complaining about games, when they're obviously not buying any.

I know I can come off as a bit harsh, but I'm probably one of the few non-biased un-fanboy people on here, I owned all console last gen (PS360Wii), but got rid of the Wii, because I was not their main audience. I want a Wii U, but I won't be getting one anytime soon until Nintendo finds out what they want the Wii U to be.
LiberatedAnimal  +   875d ago
This guys a douche. I've seen him flap his gums before, about whatever the cool thing to hate is. He's just mad EA was voted worst company in America and no Nintendo fans want there games anyway. What does EA even do anymore, other than Battlefield, that matters?
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brave27heart  +   875d ago
Dead Space, Mirrors Edge, Battlefield, SSX, Need for Speed, Fifa, Mass Effect, Madden, Command and Conquer, all big hitters this generation. Just because someone from EA says something you dont agree with dont disregard the good work they've done in petty retaliation.

Guess what fanboys, just because a person or a company doesnt like your favourite console doesnt mean that the console is bad, that your choice is wrong or that somehow by expressing dislike for that console they are somehow attacking you. Its one persons opinion, why do you even care? Get over yourselves.

As for the worst company in America...really? A video games company is the worst company out of the thousands out there. Thats pathetic. If it were true America would be the land of hope and glory some delusional people still think it is.
rick1woller  +   875d ago
But the Wii U version of NFS most wanted displays 2x the polygons, better frame rate, better lighting, textures, draw distance than the ps360 so how is it less powerful?. Sounds like an agenda to me?
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   875d ago
Wow, a lot of douchebags at EA.

Once Wii U's install base increase to an amount where EA decides to start making games for the system, Wii U owners should boycott 'em.
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Imalwaysright  +   875d ago
Yep as soon as SMG, Mario Kart, SSB, Zelda and hopefully a Pokemon U arrive, Wii U install base will sky rocket and EA and everyone hating on Nintendo will eat crow.
ziggurcat  +   875d ago
@ Imalwaysright:

"... EA and everyone hating on Nintendo will eat crow."

no, they won't because they'll be too busy playing games.
Imalwaysright  +   875d ago
No EA fanboy. Fanboys will once again be proven wrong as usual an EA will for the second time do an 180 this gen. You guys will eat crow like you did with the Wii and 3DS.
StraightPath  +   875d ago
just makes EA look bad and unprofessional. Well the employee is arrogant and should be fired with his attitude. Plus coming from the company that is voted worst company ever many times do not think any one cares.
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brave27heart  +   875d ago
Yes because an internet poll is a good barometer of a companys standing in society.

I'll give you a moment to look up barometer.

Agreed it is unprofessional. After the Adam Orth debacle (I'll wait for you to look that up too) people in the gaming industry should know better.
DragonKnight  +   875d ago
@brave27heart: Your condescension is unnecessary.
Stroke666  +   875d ago
@brave27heart... are you like EA damage control? You're not any more intelligent for using uncommon words to insult someone you just make yourself look like as much as a douche as Summerwill. An internet poll yes which probably has more of their target audience involved in it than any other poll. But then again thats just speculation. ease up on the insults we're all gamers with strong opinions and you know the classic saying about opinions I presume... they're like assholes yadda yadda.
on topic: the dude will probably get repremanded and once wii u install base pick up it'll be pretty funny to watch the nay sayers back track their statments early on
rainslacker  +   875d ago
I think the best way to post anything on twitter if your in any way working or related to the gaming industry is to write it down first on a piece of paper...then throw said piece of paper in the trash...then light the trash can on fire. After that you can call it a day.

Twitter is bad news if your interested in keeping your job. Things escalate too quickly, and way too often get taken out of context.

OT: Since he is somewhat representing EA in this regard, he should have been a bit more professional.
_QQ_  +   875d ago
Its funny because Nintendo doesn't even have to acknowledge the comments,They will just Make more money than anyone else again with either software or hardware, and that's pretty much their middle finger to EA.
RustedMan  +   875d ago
I'd rather they had some sort of rebuttal then just to turn a blind eye.
SilentNegotiator  +   875d ago
"[Nintendo] will just Make more money than anyone else again"

Because Nintendo did so well the last 2 years, right?
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PigPen  +   875d ago
Army of Two: The Devil's Cartel sells 8,000 copies on Xbox360/PS3/PC total worldwide and their mad at with the Wii U. No smart person was going to buy Fifa, Batman: Arkham City or Mass Effect 3. Fifa missing things the PS3/X360 version had. A buggy Batman and ME3 when they announce a trilogy for others. EA is angry and Nintendo goes on as business as usual.
Tito08  +   874d ago
You're using just one game to twist things around as if the same can be said about other platforms. Look at Dead Space, Mass Effect, Need For Speed, Medal Of Honor, Fifa, Burnout, EA made money with all of these games, especially with Battlefield 3 selling almost 16m copies, & I highly doubt Battlefield would, & the fact Batman, Mass Effect & Fifa didn't sell on Wii U has nothing to do with being smart, only thing I give Nintendo fans props is not buying Call Of Duty, but the others like Tekken Tag, no excuse.
dboyc310  +   875d ago
"@freebsdgirl @shanselman Yep, we’ve got plenty of problems, but WiiU isn’t where that family/casual market is.It’s on mobile/tablet now!

— Bob Summerwill (@BobSummerwill) May 17, 2013"
That tweet sums up why wii u will go back to the n64/GameCube days. Wii didn't succeed because of Nintendo IPs it succeeded because it captured the family/casual crowd that has now moved to mobile/tablets.
LAZL0-Panaflex  +   875d ago
Isn't great?!
Knushwood Butt  +   875d ago
'Crap', is a bit harsh, but Nintendo knew they were taking a huge risk by designing a console around one controller.
BeZdaBest  +   875d ago
its funny aint it... most people dont buy ea games anymore because of ea's funny practices... but when its has to do with nintendo here it becomes an open buffet of doom and gloom.. seriously people ea hasnt supported nintendo that much since gamecube...

so plz clear up that fanboy/hate fog because ea hasnt been messing with nintendo for a long time..look at the 3ds wheres the ea games..i see no problem there....

SEROUIS QUESTION...home many here like ea still.. and what they did to mass effect and dead space...crappy ports on wiiu(except mostwanted)... tell me how many of you buy crappy ports on the ps3.but once again its nintendo so they just got to scoop up watevers around right...*sighs* what is the gaming world coming to....people care more for graphics than story..smh
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D_RoyJenkins  +   875d ago
I do, big EA fan here. Love my FIFA and Battlefield.
mcstorm  +   875d ago
Wow EA have really started to spit there dummy out over the Wiiu. I really don't see the issue with the Wiiu at the moment. Yes sales are not high but the psv sales are not to and they are still supporting that console.

I would find it really funny if the next Xbox and ps4 have slow starts to and the Wiiu picks up sales just to see ea's response.
Tito08  +   874d ago
Don't bring the Vita to spit things around, it has to do with a console's attach-rate, because the Wii, as much as it sold the most units, it had the lowest attach-rate in regards to 3rd party companies. In comparison, most 3rd parties have made most of their money on PS3 & 360 this entire gen.

To put matters more interesting, Sony & Microsoft doesn't have to worry about Nintendo having a bigger lead in console sales when the majority of 3rd parties knows where most of their money comes from, & honestly Nintendo have to reevaluate themselves & have a little change of identity because they're still being perceived as the "Mario, Zelda, Pokemon" company for mostly children, don't get me wrong, that benefits Nintendo a lot since their games sell more than most Sony & Microsoft first parties, but if they want to to make their console the gold standard for next gen, they have to go aggressive with 3rd parties, because I honestly am not a Nintendo fan, but if I ever buy a Nintendo device, it has to be for stronger 3rd party support.
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mcstorm  +   874d ago
I was not brining the pcs in to spin things round I was just making a point.

I have a Psv and love it but the sales of the console are poor.

Also why are you classing Mario and Zelda gamea as kids games? Is that because they don't have guns and blood in them?.

Plus it all depends on which 3rd party games you talk about depends on what sells better on Nintendo and Sony consoles.

For me my console of 1st choice was the 360 I own a ps3 and did own a Wii but have a Wiiu now.

But what I don't get is they are dropping some big name games like fifa. Now they made fifa games for the Wii and game cube but spat there dummy out on the n64 and stopped making games for that.

For me EA just want an easy ride and don't want to put work into there games. Look at fifa, NHL, NFL ect they are getting less and less work done on them each season then they are just trying to take top sport off other developers with there games that are the same. BF and MoH wanting to try and beat COD ect. I want to see EA start giving is some new IP as the new ones we had the the beginning of this gen were good but them the 2nd and 3rd offerings were poor. BFBc2 and BF3 were good games but bad company one and the 2 new MoH gamea were poor.

That said im not to fussed if EA don't bring out there games on Nintendos console as I will also own a ps4 and a next Xbox so I can enjoy the games I ant on each platform I just don't like the way ea are being with Nintendo.
Tito08  +   874d ago
5m PSV sales are decent enough, but gotta give it time because it can have games that could help it push sales further both 1st & 3rd party, & is getting decent support because they know the games can sell on a Sony handheld, but in Nintendo's case, it's mostly 1rst parties.

Whether you like it or not, Mario & Zelda are for kids, even thought adults plays em as well, Nintendo are like the Disney of videogames.

It could depend on the company, but that's not the case on PS3 & 360, there's no depending on company, because as much as you like Capcom, Konami, Namco, Square, they all have worked with Nintendo, but they know most of their audience is on 2 consoles, especially on the PS, Nintendo has being losing 3rd party support from both western & Japanese publishers since the N64 days, only very few sells, look at Street Fighter, a series that has being on multiple systems, but only N64, Gamecube & Wii received none, not even a Marvel vs Capcom game while everybody else being having it, even the PSV a handheld, that says a lot about the lack of 3rd party support on Nintendo's part.

I know EA is sometimes a d1ck company, but they're a big publisher, bigger than most people think they are, they can build a home console if they want, & they're one of the reasons the DC tanked. I think EA has given a lot of new IPs this gen & they contributed & pleased consumers more than Activision whose tanked the Guitar Hero IP & having yearly Call Of Duty & Spiderman games, & almost cancelled True Crime/Sleeping Dogs until Square took responsibility. If EA stops fully support Nintendo, that means others will follow suit, & know that EA has now secured exclusivity to develop Star War games, the chances of a SW game appearing on Nintendo devices will be very slim, unless they settle an agreement with Disney, like I usually tells everyone, time will tell.
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3-4-5  +   875d ago
He may have also got himself fired though.
Psn800  +   875d ago
He is very unprofessional for company exec he could have explained the specs a bit more and why he and his company are not interested instead of calling it crap , very unprofessional but I'am afraid he might be right but I'am sad be ause I bought one hehehe .
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nosferatuzodd  +   875d ago
i think that guy is wrong im a playstation fan i was born with a ps controller in my hand but i will not stoop that low to slander nintendo like this ea should apologize
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Nicolee  +   875d ago
' Deal with it ' hehehe
BuhDay  +   875d ago
"The WiiU that's that ish I dont like, BANG BANG!"
Irishguy95  +   875d ago
Like Nvidia and the Ps4...he's just telling the truth
bicfitness  +   876d ago
Everything he has said is true, but he certainly wasn't pulling any punches. A little decorum would be nice on Twitter, where people seem to lose all sense of class. Still, I don't know why hardcore Nintendo fans can't just mentally snip out the middle-man and get angry at Nintendo for making such poor hardware as opposed to the - loudmouthed - devs and publishers who simply can't be bothered to work on it. Whose fault is it, really?
LOL_WUT  +   875d ago
It's funny how all the blame goes to EA and other countless dev's who have called out the Wii U but yet none for Nintendo... The mindless sheeple are the very core of the problem ;)

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zeal0us  +   876d ago
I doubt Bob will get a talking to seeing as sports engineers are like gold to EA
PopRocks359  +   876d ago
Someone try to convince me that EA's not bitter at this point. I would LOVE to see someone prove that to me.


"Conversely, can you prove that EA ARE bitter?"

You can't be serious. Look at the tweet.

"The WiiU is crap. Less powerful than an XBOX360. Poor online/store. Weird tablet. Nintendo are walking dead at this point."

How does that not sound bitter to you? That's coming straight from EA's staff.

Furthermore, the Origin rumor was never denied either. So you can't simply write it off as if it was nothing. Take it with a grain of salt, but it makes a lot of sense considering EA and Nintendo were so tight at first and then suddenly their partnership dropped off the face of the earth.
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bicfitness  +   875d ago | Well said
Conversely, can you prove that EA ARE bitter? What sort of conclusive evidence do you have of that? The only "fact" that we know, is that EA are going through a restructuring and can't commit further resources to a platform that has horrible 3rd party software tie ratios. That potential Origin deal was a rumor through and through and was never confirmed by either of the parties supposedly involved.

Edit: You're reaching, you really are. That doesn't sound bitter unless you are someone that bought a Wii U and were expecting it to be anything more than a glorified last-gen machine with a wonky interface. He is saying THE TRUTH. Not in a couched or compassionate way, which might cloud the message but won't negate the facts. And if you read the Verge article, EA fulfilled their "unprecedented partnership" with the 6ish (I think) games released for the Wii U thus far. That deal is dead and done.
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thezeldadoth  +   875d ago
wonky interface? funny how its faster and more fluid than both of the others. the online store has a better layout, the home menu makes everything accessible the way you want it, and the system (after the last update) boots and begins programs faster.
phantomexe  +   875d ago
Its preety obvious unless you live in a cave with nothing to of at least read in the last year. Yes that's bitter... There so much to read about nintendo and EA they need to get a room.
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brave27heart  +   875d ago
It doesnt sound bitter. I hate wasps. Useless bloody things that have no right to exist, horrible looking evil creatures. Im not bitter about them i just dont like them. Theres a difference. To be bitter you need sonething to be bitter about. And before someone says Origin show me some proof that actually happened and EA cared about it if it did before you start wasting my time.
InTheZoneAC  +   875d ago
I'm not bitter and that's exactly how I feel about the Wii U.

Give me a link to the past 2, exactly the way it looks but for the wii u...oh wait going on 3ds

give me a full fledged pokemon game on the the wii u...oh wait that's also going on the 3ds

give me a classic style donkey kong game on the wii u...oh wait they remade it for the 3ds

paper mario?
luigi's mansion?

also found only on the 3ds....

why in the hell would anyone buy a wii u at this point?

have fun playing pokemon snap or stadium when it finally releases.
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Firan  +   875d ago
Yeah they should switch their full attention towards Wii U right now. Wii U has lost it's momentum completely and it's much harder to regain that in home console market. They really need to work on it.

I'm sure Wii U gets some real good games at some point but when? 2014? 2015? No purchase from me until then.
rainslacker  +   875d ago
Can't it just be that their games aren't selling on the Wii U right now, and they don't see any reason to expend resources on it when it likely won't return enough profit...you know...things most businesses would do in that situation.

Granted, if you made an argument that it's EA's own fault for not releasing anything worthwhile in the first place then maybe we could agree on something...but it is what it is.

EA wouldn't forgo profits just because they're bitter. They've had enough of a working relationship with Nintendo to not let the one thing they'd be bitter about(no origin on Wii U), prevent them from releasing games on the system.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   875d ago
@PopRocks359 What you and the rest of you Nintyfanchildren fail to realize is that a company will not let "bitterness" stop them from making money. Fact is, if the WiiU was a profitable console to make games for than EA s a company would make games for it regardless of how they feel. Activision had a beef with the PS3 this gen and even threatened to pull support for the console at one point but do you know why they didn't? Because the console was profitable to make games for.
PopRocks359  +   875d ago
Nintyfanchildren? LOL Oh my goodness, I'm dealing with absolute lunacy. XD This is all too much.
ChickenOfTheCaveMan  +   875d ago
I don't think EA are bitter, they're rather disappointed that Nintendo offered a system less than current gen.
PopRocks359  +   875d ago
That would still count as being bitter... the reason you listed is just different. Besides, even among developers who are not supporting Wii U, I don't see anyone blasting it or calling it "dead/shit." Who else is being that unprofessional about this?
Relientk77  +   875d ago
EA are not fans of the Wii U
SpiralTear  +   875d ago
Summerwill is apparently a fan of the Ouya, just for perspective's sake.
Grap  +   875d ago
At this Point No one is a fan of it.
Imalwaysright  +   875d ago
There aren't many EA fans neither seeing how they were voted worst company twice in a row and by the looks of it they're gunning for an hat trick.
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-GametimeUK-  +   875d ago
Shots fired...

Anyway, I'm by no means a Nintendo supporter, but if you're multiple time winners of the very prestigious "Worst Company in Amaerica" award, you are not really in the position to pass judgement about the quality of a product.

Oh, and Origin is crap. Not better than Steam.
Root  +   875d ago
True but EA got the worst company award...not Bob Summerwill. He's just someone who works at the worst voted company, it doesn't discredit his opinions.

Now if it was the CEO in charge of all of EA then fair enough.

@Poprocks Below


Always online was totally different, hardly no gamer wants there next gen console to be always online. Plus Adam was calling consumers by where they lived with those "Why would I want to live there" remarks, calling a console with his views on it is totally different then insulting your fanbase with harsh comments and defending a horrible feature

Besides again there his views...not EA's, true EA as a whole company and by that I mean the big guys who run the entire place might think a little like that but I don't see why people can't express there opinions on another company as long as it's not totally made up BS, hurtfull comments or something negative which is directed at fans/the gaming community
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PopRocks359  +   875d ago
Everyone slung mud at that Orth go over his "get over it" tweets over the Nextbox "always online" rumor. How is that any different from this?
bicfitness  +   875d ago
@ Pop

What Adam Orth was saying wasn't necessarily true, as it was debunked - or changed due to perceived consumer backlash.

Furthermore, Adam Orth's comments threatened the relationship between MS and its customers. This gentleman's words threaten the relationship between EA and Nintendo customers. You know, the dozen that bought ME or NFS.

I think what's more worth considering is how/ why this man is firing out so many vitriolic tweets in one afternoon. The EA/ Nintendo fallout is no real shocker, but this guy could have had his account compromised. If not, he's just a loudmouth (that is still speaking the truth, sorry).
-GametimeUK-  +   875d ago
He works for the company. Everybody knows that one persons actions within the company they work for can reflect bad (or good) on the company as whole.

It just comes across as unprofessional to me, but hey free speech. I just think he could have got his point across in a polite manner.
lilbroRx  +   875d ago
What compromises a company if not its employees?
SpiralTear  +   875d ago
Regardless of whether this guy is wrong or right, you'd think that some folks would be more conscious of what they say on Twitter after that whole Adam Orth debacle.

I'm curious as to how much longer this guy will have a job at EA.
SonyNGP  +   875d ago
The heck is "Gen4"?


I would laugh so hard if he actually got a bonus xD
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LiberatedAnimal  +   875d ago
For real, I thought this was Gen 8. lol
shivvy24  +   875d ago
he probably considers the gens to start with the original Playstation ! lol what an idiot
juhis815  +   875d ago
Does anyone still remember when Satoru Iwata raised the voice that Wii U is powerful gaming machine?
bicfitness  +   875d ago
The Devil is in the details. He never said what year he was referencing. Wii U is some awesomsauce circa 2006 - complete with the overclocked Wii CPU cores. Nintendo did this to themselves. No pity for them from me.
stuna1  +   875d ago
Yeah I remember that statement, but I guess the uninformed would rather it be all about rainbows and unicorns! How can an issue be fixed if it's never addressed?
BattleReach  +   875d ago
Khordchange  +   875d ago
well your fired
McScroggz  +   875d ago
Ouch. I don't know that this was exactly called for, even if what he said has a lot of truth to it.

And kind of funny :D
MasterCornholio  +   875d ago
Holy moly ive seen developers make bad comments on the Wii U but they never go so far as to say this.

"The WiiU is crap. Less powerful than an XBOX360. Poor online/store. Weird tablet. Nintendo are walking dead at this point."

"Nintendo are still operating like it's 1990. They should have "done a Sega" and offered Mario/Zelda as PS4/Durango exclusives."

Wait a minute. Could this be a fake account or something? Or maybe a fanboy hacked into this guys twitter account.

What do you think?
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NYC_Gamer  +   875d ago
The dude has nothing to lose since there is no relationship between EA and Nintendo..Its really doubtful that someone would hack his account just to type out negative comments on twitter.
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stuna1  +   875d ago
It could be! But the question still remains how far from the truth is it?
Bobby Kotex  +   875d ago
Wow you're in such denial.
bobacdigital  +   875d ago
How is he being honest and true? Several developers have said it is on par if not better than previous generation... Lets not forget it is running dirty ports of LATE GEN games that took both previous consoles an entire generation to achieve.. It is also outputting those images to two screens with less than HALF the power output.

Miiverse and the Eshop are both actually quite good and the online experience is just fine.. the user base needs to be larger for it to be on the same level as the previous gen.. Did he expect the Wii U to have all 3.5 million gamers online all play COD a franchise grown on the 360 and ps3?

The company living in the 1990s SPANKED the previous gen consoles with half the power and less than a 1/3 of the 3rd parties... Lets not forget that Nintendo is DOMINATING the portable market over the VITA without having the cutting edge tech.

If Nintendo didnt exist we would not have anyone innovating or creating different experiences..... People keep saying drop the motion controls and the game pad and just make BEAST hardware... If they did that we would have 3 identical consoles out there with different first party titles with the same play controls and experiences..

I like that Nintendo is different and trying to innovate.. If they weren't doing that plenty of things may not have existed like the Kinect, ps move, integrated gyration , analog sticks, Off screen play, and rumble..
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Persistantthug  +   875d ago
@bobacdigital, I'm sorry, But Nintendo's online infrastructure is a travesty.
When your system breaks and you get a new one from the store, you lose your whole account, including everything you've earned and/or purchased.

Who designs an online infrastructure that ties everything into the device?

Nintendo does, that's who.

They would probably have been better off to let EA design and run it.
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bobacdigital  +   875d ago
I agree that part can be improved and I hope they do that in the near future... Apple use to do this before the cloud with their music.. You had to repurchase everything you didnt back up somewhere.

One thing to take note of is that Nintendo hardware in general RARELY fails.. The system isnt like the Xbox that experienced a high rate of failure...

Also have you used Origin on the PC at all? I have had nothing but issues with their servers and server browser it isnt nearly as seamless as Steam is.
mudmax  +   875d ago
No that's not true. Everything is not tied to the device it saved in nintendos cloud. Same as the wii. But no, you can't just randomly access your account from a new console no. Not without contacting nintendo directly. Send it they'll fix it and there really fast too. The worst that could happen is having to redownload any games that are on the built in memory. But anything you buy or download is always saved to your account. Even the wii did that. I had my wii repaired twice an had to redownload everything both times. But I never lost anything. External hardrive for wii u would be unaffected though. I talked to support directly over the phone about this. Can you randomly access your xbox live or playstation account from any console anywhere anytime? I don't own either so i wouldn't know. If your wii u got completely destroyed, I'm sure nintendo could transfer your account to a new console. You know thats kind of a security thing i believe. Keep others from hacking your password an accessing your account from another console.
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Thepcz  +   875d ago

and just plain lies.
wishingW3L  +   875d ago
maybe unprofessional but how do you know that what he's saying are lies?
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Thepcz  +   875d ago
lol its not weaker than an xbox 360

saying something is crap is subjective
LiberatedAnimal  +   875d ago
Did he actually just call Apple hardware powerful? lol
shuuwai  +   875d ago
shanselman Sony, MS, Apple, Google all following the same playbook … standard, powerful, hardware, with focus on software and services.

shanselman Sony, MS, X86/X64 OS, Linux, Google all following the same playbook … standard, powerful, hardware, with focus on software and services.
The 10th Rider  +   875d ago
You know for a fact that if or when the Wii U starts selling well, EA will start releasing games for it and then whine when their games don't sell on it...Gee, I wonder why?
madjedi  +   875d ago
The last couple third party games releasing are barely hitting 30k their first week out of a 1-1.25 million install base.

Other than exclusives wii u owners aren't really buying 3rd party games, why will that change in the future when nintendo finally releases games.

"You know for a fact that if or when the Wii U starts selling well" Wii u did less than 40k last month in na, when the wii u sells 100k+ a month some third partys might see some appeal in it.

Problem is the entire industry is starting to shift into next gen development, the only reason these dinosaurs will get supported for another 2-3 yrs is a target base of 150+ million is too good to pass up.
Dj7FairyTail  +   875d ago
Wii U install base exceeds 3.45m
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madjedi  +   875d ago
"Wii u did less than 40k last month in na, when the wii u sells 100k+ a month some third partys might see some appeal in it."

Typically in na, refers to north america since i was only discussing npd numbers, not world wide numbers.

"Wii U install base exceeds 3.45m" Good luck to nintendo to move another 5.55 million in 7 or 8 months at it's current rates.

And that install number missed 2 separate sales projections 1st at 5.5 then 4 million.

That correction didn't help paint any better of a picture for nintendo.
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The 10th Rider  +   875d ago
I said "IF or when" I'm not saying the Wii U is going to start selling well, I'm saying that if it does start to sell well EA is going to whine about how their games don't sell well on the console...which would be idiotic because they just ticked off the entire Nintendo fanbase.
rainslacker  +   875d ago
I think Nintendo really botched up it's launch window. I said before launch they had 12-18 months to get this system into as many hands as possible to establish an install base before the competition came out, and they wasted the first 6 months with barely any games coming out until recently, and nothing but some vague promises that more games were coming, and very confirmed release dates..

More games are coming, but at what point are people going to start caring enough when there are better alternatives out there? For a while I was thinking maybe they're saving it for E3 to show up Sony/MS, but they aren't even going to have a conference which means it's not going to get as much visibility.

I still don't see it as doomed, but realistically they should have been more prepared. Although the launch line up was pretty good and some upcoming games I'm looking forward to.
stragomccloud  +   875d ago
Man, the worst part about EAs smear campaign, is there are so many fanboys that they won't hesitate to believe anything negative they hear, regardless of falsehood. Such is disinformation, though.

Man these guys are really gunning for worst company in America 3 years in a row!
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jcnba28  +   875d ago
EA is run by overgrown children. Could he have been any more unprofessional about it? No wonder they got voted the worst company twice in a row.
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Sgt_Slaughter  +   875d ago
Considering Need for Speed: Most Wanted looked the best on the Wii U out of all systems, (excluding PC of course), his 360 comment gets blown out of the water.

The hardware is better than the 7th consoles, but it's up to the developers to utilize the console properly.

Also, for EA and other developers, you can't expect a last-gen port to sell well on a just released console.


At this point, EA is like a kid that didn't get the toy he wanted for Christmas, so he throws a temper-tantrum and tries to take and destroy the neighbors kid's toys.


Forgot one more thing... (comment from IGN)

"Hmmmm ...let's see Nintendo's stuck in 1990 eh? ....Last I recalled 1990 ha No DLC micro transactions or DRM."
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ThaBlackBaron  +   875d ago
LMAO its funny how anybody from EA that makes a comment ppl believe even though you know FOR A FACT it isn't true LOL

Everything this moron said is false and contradicts what MANY others developers say and ppl who actually own a Wii U
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akaihana86plus  +   875d ago
Talking out of his ass much?!, what a moron
Dread  +   875d ago
very unprofessional. This guy should be disciplined.

However, EA has a right to decide with whome to do business. Their reasons seem legitimate, third party games have generally performed poorly with nintendo, particularly the last two gens.

It is also true that people are not buying enough wiiu software. EA has a right to play it safe and focus their resourses on other platforms.
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   875d ago
I hope that Nintendo adresses this rumor directly-
Or a journalist asks the question to Nintendo or EA during E3.

This is not good. (For Nintendo or the Industry).

Not saying Nintendo will fall because of EA but they will take a hit-
they need to address it-
With games and with Speech.

I think a lot of Developers have put a hit-out for Nintendo.
josephayal  +   875d ago
omg This Has To Be Fake
LAWSON72  +   875d ago
So we get a bias opinion from some guy ranting. EA should fire this guy just because this adds to their already bad image.
I dont think this guy should be saying anything about wii u. What has he done? Thats right he has help port games poorly and made zero games for it.
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UnHoly_One  +   875d ago
BIASED, not bias.

By saying these things, he is showing bias, but if you are referencing the comments themselves, they are biased.

Why doesn't anyone ever use that word correctly?

I'm sorry to single you out, but the number of times I see this word misused in the comments on gaming articles is astounding.
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PigPen  +   875d ago
So I'm suppose to sell my Wii U because "Bob" says it's crap. In all honesty it may very well be my only console this generation. No games from EA is fair game but they won't be missed. If I had to choose between EA and Nintendo over games, then Nintendo wins. If EA threw in RockStar, the results is the same.
UnHoly_One  +   875d ago
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course, bu you have to realize you would be in the EXTREME minority amongst gamers that would take Nintendo over EA and Rockstar.

People always talk about how much they hate EA, but nearly everyone plays at least one of their games.
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PigPen  +   873d ago
Nintendo didn't have a meaningful RockStar game almost ever. Good for me I owned two consoles. I am not sure if that will be the case this time cause Ubisoft is the New RockStar. I mean GTA 4 get about two hour playing time roaming the city and I done. Of course it's my opinion, but it's fun a little when I start and two hours in i'm bored. Max Payne, Bully and all the others is not my cup of tea. I don't even care for their 2k games. Now I know it comes off like i'm feeling some type of way, but I'm just being honest. Meanwhile Ubisoft games coming for Wii U is mad crazy. Rayman, Splinter Cell, ZombieU and Watch Dogs. I am the minority, like what I got to do with anyone else for me to realize something. My taste is for me and not to just be in with the in- crowd. I am not getting into EA.
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ToadSage  +   875d ago
Remember that two GameCubes taped together comment before the Wii came out, and what happened? The Wii spanked Ps3 and 360, and lets not even talk about the Vita vs the 3DS. The Wii U will be alright, no worries. Hey EA sports why don't you worry about making a decent Madden game?
lizard81288  +   875d ago
I was just about to say EA slammed the 3DS saying the Vita will outsell the 3ds because the 3DS is weaker, now look what happened. EA just needs to stop.
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