First Native 1080p Game? Xbox360's Splinter Cell 4
http://www.1up.com/do/newsS... "Splinter Cell Double Agent Not 1080p Report from Gamepro says it is -- Ubisoft says 'nope.' by Luke Smith, 10/18/2006 Microsoft is supporting 1080p on its Xbox 360, we know this, but Gamepro is reporting that Ubisoft's just-released Splinter Cell: Double Agent (read Shoe's review here) will support 1080p displays. The image Gamepro provides is a shot of the Xbox 360 dashboard with a selectable 1080p display and says representatives from Ubisoft told them that the game would support 1080p. When we asked Ubisoft for clarification, company reps told us: "It's 1080i."
First Console to do 1080p?
no the ps2 can do 1080p....what do u think what other console has even had even close to a 1080p resolution and i dont know of a single tv that can do 1080p over componet and i dont want to hook it up with a vga cable because it would display in a 16:10 ratio. Also it depends when they update the 360 with 1080p
PS2 can only do 1080i. And that isn't supported by Sony, that's only through one of those Action Replay thingymagigs, isn't it?
we will see if this is true or if this is only a joke, but where is the hdmi ? xbox360 cant handle 720p, oh my god i dont want to know how the gameplay is with 2fps. ms give it up ! i thought 1080p is not needed, and now ? ms tries everything to make their console 1080p compatible, i bet they will fail.
As you are unknown about the stuff I'll teach you. 1080p in games can be done over component HD cable. 1080p in movies HDMI is nescessary, but the HD-DVD add-on isn't here yet. HDMI cable expected spring 2007. So go away Sony fanboy. The first real 1080p game that's not a PS2 GT4 HD smugged up version or a tennis game with 2 characters on screen might be here and it's on the 360
"The first real 1080p game that's not a PS2 GT4 HD smugged up version or a tennis game with 2 characters on screen might be here and it's on the 360" So now there are certain characteristics as to what defines a "real" 1080p game? so would 54 players on a tennis court constitute a "real" 1080p game? Shut up.
Antan you may disagree but what I am telling is not that hard to understand. A PS2 game put in 1080p doesn't ask so much of the hardware to get done. As a simple game of Tennis with 2 moving characters also is more easy to do then for example Splinter Cell. I can back up my statements with the old XBOX. Out of the box it can do 720p NATIVE on some games. Unlike the PS2 trick with a upscale external hardwarebox. With a HDTV pack from MS the XBOX can unlock this fun future. BUT the games that are in 720p mostly are the less hardware pushing games. Simple and undeniable. And if games are in 720p instead of 480p on the old XBOX, mostly the richness of stuff on screen is tuned down although the resolution is higher. So things cost on one end to get a higher resolution. As it will be with next gen games. And what I state is so, so true. The 2 games confirmed in 1080p aren't the most demanding hardware drainging games period. You can cry all you want but it's true Antan
Im not refering and was never refering to the PS2 side of your comment, so a waste of you last bubble on that one. Regardless of if a game has "less" of a visual impact or not, if its outputting 1080p then it is 1080p. Regardless of if the 2 games are draining or not, the fact is they are running in 1080p, end of story, period, You can cry all you want but it's true Mart!...........You do put your foot in it an awful lot of the time with your ranting and raving. Chill a bit, put your guard down, talk without bashing, chat without the twisting. You`ll find people will speak to you with respect, if you respect peoples views and opinions, the same will happen to you, yes ...even you!!!
well you have no idea what your talking about
but on a side note, there is a disk you can put in your ps2 to produce visiuals on the way to 1080p. You put in the disk, load it, then put in your ps2 game. Seems like a last minute gamble on microsoft's part. They were the ones saying that Hd gaming wasn't important and no need to implemement it. They even said Sony would not have any 1080p games this year. After all that, they come out with 1080p gaming. I just want to know how its done. And if they could already conduct 1080p then why wait till now, its been a year. You do see where I'm going with this right? I forgot to mention, since it doesn't have HDMI inputs then will it not be obsolete in a couple years because of the new HD standard?
Watching Microsoft scramble and backtrack on their previous statements (which were quite bold by the way) is pretty entertaining. Microsoft bought out the Splinter Cell franchise so I'm sure they can push the dev team to do anything they please. HTCP's implementation is inevitable, and while it takes a long time to download even standard definition movies, it won't be long before Hi-def movies start floating around the internet. Supposedly its implementation has been pushed back to 2011. The 360 console wasn't designed with an HDMI port so it's not HTCP compliant. Microsoft says not to worry and that they'll deal with the problem, but refuse to say how they'll deal with it. I'm sure they're concocting an HDMI cable adaptor to work with the VGA output from the 360 (best guess, there's other possibilities), but even that might not work. It's a really tricky situation, and Sony got so intimidated by it that they decided to put HDMI in every single PS3 just in case.
HDMI is possible according to microsoft, they said the market wasn't ready. Imagine if they released HDMI it would have to be a cable which would easily cost $80. Now this would bring confusion since people would think you need the cable to watch HD-DVD, which isn't true. By lanching the cable next year, people would relize that HD-DVD can be enjoyed fully with component or VGA. Then when HDMI cable is finally released they can pick one because they choose and not because they think they need it to enjoy HD-DVD.
I would find it very perplexing if they were even able to show 1080p since the best cord they could have is VGA and that onlu supports 1080i. I didn't even know you could upscale the flow of information with a simple cord-to-cord intersection when the source of the information outputs that information at a slower rate. It doesn't make sense. If anyone wants to explain please do, but until then there is no possibly way the XBox 360 can do 1080p. 1080i, yes. 1080p, no.
Man are you dumb or what. 1080p in games can be done even through component. Only movies won't go because of the copyright restrictions only running through HDMI but ALSO through VGA. So, VGA on 360 can do 1080p in games AND movies. And yes, the output videoport on the 360 is digital already. Advanced they just have to make a HDMI cable for the port and off we go. It'll be here spring 2007 for sure. Read above and see why 1080p is just done on the 360. Although almost no one will use it including me, because we all own 720p HDTV's/LCD. Now Sony fanboys there is no reason defending the PS3 anymore with it's 1080p advantage, because the 360 has it also. Learn to deal with it or cry on
No... not dumb, but misinformed and uneducated on the subject. Thank you for explaining it though with no physical evidence (I do believe you though). The only thing that makes me sad is that you have to be such an angry person that always feels he is being attacked. Give more hugs and smiles, man. The whole world isn't against you.
1. There is NO framerate drop with 1080p. 2. THe ONLY reason 1080p wasn't enabled from day one was that at the time of launch there was not a SINGLE 1080p television on the market. They couldn't even test the functionality. 3. ALL 1080p televisions on the market today have VGA inputs. 1080p can also be used over standard component cables. 4. HDMI will NEVER, EVER be required for gaming. Ever. 5. They said 1080p wasn't important, and a year ago it wasn't...see point 2. 6. The digital output on the 360 is AMAZING...all that was required was a software upgrade and, tada, 1080p with no framerate hit. 7. If you have a tv that produces 16:10 ratio over vga then something is SERIOUSLY whacked on your end. As Major Nelson pointed out, computer monitors run ALL resolutions over vga just fine. So does my television. I'm so incredibly sick of the same damned uninformed arguments over and over and over. And no, Splinter Cell is NOT _native_ 1080p, it is just scaled to 1080p from the games native 720p.
"2. THe ONLY reason 1080p wasn't enabled from day one was that at the time of launch there was not a SINGLE 1080p television on the market. They couldn't even test the functionality. " -UrbanJabroni - Actually that is not a true statement. I had my LCD HDTV since October 2005 and it has a native resolution of 1080p, which is why I chose it. When the 360 came out in November, I was shocked that it did not do 1080p at the time. Also my tv will only display 1080p on the 1st hdmi & the vga inputs.
In the next update, I beg of you, implement a feature where we can ignore certain posters. I'm sure both sides are sick of the "hardcore fanboys" whose sole purpose is to rip on news about the opposing console, and I would like this site SO much more of I could just turn them off so I can read news and have a meaningful discussion. Please!
I know why the sony fans are angry. All these features were touted by Sony as exclusive to them. Now microsoft who never said anything about them comes out and does it before them. Come on people, we are sharing. We gamers benefit.
announce any of this because there was no need.like stated before there were no 1080p tv at the time, that didnt meant that the system wasnt able to handle it.so far as HDMI is concerned, you know that big plug that connects to the xbox360 with the switch on it, it switches from standard to HiDef signals, all MS has to do is make there own special cable that has the system plug on one end an HDMI plug on the other end made just for that an there you go, HDMI on xbox360!!an plus why would MS lay out all there cards when they knew sony was gonna say what they have is better!!if MS said the x360 can do a trillion colours a sec then sony would say they can do 2 trillion.thats why you never lay all your cards out at once!!
Id appreciate it if you all didnt act like you were experts on HD cables (not that I think I am), etc. Youre mostly severely mis-informed. Is HDMI the best cable? Incredibly debatable, as the difference is that HDMI transfers in a native YCbCr colour information. Whereas DVI just has a couple of extra conversions in order to get it going into its RGB format. Any colour format can be converted to any other colour format, so, there shouldnt be much issue in making the 360 do it. Also, 1080p vs 1080i again? My god. the difference, yes progressive and interlaced, we all know that. The REAL difference? 1080p can fit in a few more vertical lines with less chance of flicker. Conclusion? Unless you see the 1080i flickering, its doing the same thing as 1080p. P.S. All 3 people with an HDMI capable tv, im sure youll enjoy it.
Thankyou. I wonder who the other 2 people out there are?? hehe jk.
im sick of ur BS always stating the 360 wont have hdmi, nor 1080p. They already declared that 1080p is comin t 360 as is hdmi wen needed. end of story, grow up and live with it, ur bickering is pointless.
The market doesn't change that fast, not within a year. There hasn't been a drastic change from the people who didn't have a hdtv and now. If it was so simple to be implemented then why not have it at the start? Even if only %1 of the population had HD tvs at the time. That's nearly 300,000 people with it. It sounds like they are reacting instead of acting and that's a bad thing. Because if it wasn't planned in the start, then there is really no way to tell once its introduced to everyone. @SirNath. There is no bickering, I just want answers. How will it be implemented? Why did it take so long?
can anyone help me i just got splinter cell to day.ive just read about the 1080p settings.now ive got hdtv 27in.a vga hd cable and my resolution is 1360x768.is that good all bad.plus i got a hdmi input as well.so will my tv do 1080p?cheers.
No, your TV will look best set at 720p, as that is its native resolution.
Guys I guess it will be native and not upscaled, read it: "Our first clue was that the pre-release version of Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent, which installs to the Xbox 360 debug hard drive, contained an option for 1080p support. The option was buried under the system options in the console Dashboard -- easily overlooked. Once we noticed the new option, we immediately followed up with Ubisoft. Would the retail version of Splinter Cell: Double Agent also support 1080p output on the retail Xbox 360? A Ubisoft representative's answer was short and to the point: "Yes." If it was upscaled, it was done by the 360 and having the option only in the dashboard that can convert ALL old 720p games. Now this is popping up in the version of this game it could be that it's 1080p native. That would be very soon though and unexpected if you ask me
Hey I never believed Sony when they said only true next gen games starts with PS3, but if you did believe that then I can see why some Sonyfanboys might be taking this news so hard. Don't worry all the games in 720p and 1080i look so sweet you won't even notice....still its ironic that 360 has the first 1080p game on the market, even funnier is the obvious pain that Sonyfanboys feel over something thats not even a big deal, unless you're sad because you won't be able to use the slogan that Sony was the 1st to have 1080p games, lol....how ironic.
I posted a Major Nelson blogcast yesterday. He answers many of the questions surrounding 1080p. http://www.news4gamers.com/... Stop arguing and listen to show! Or at least the part where they talk about 1080p. I promise you that Albert from XBox knows more about the 1080p implementation to the 360 than ANY OF YOU! The answers are right in front of your faces! Yet you keep arguing!
What game was it able to run at that resolution? Pong?
Hah! Microsoft backtracked did they? From my knowledge, saying you WONT do something go