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Guerrilla’s Killzone Shadow Fall Demo Broken Down Technically

Killzone Shadow Fall, one of Sony’s big titles during its PlayStation 4 reveal, used just 3 of the system’s 8GB of RAM for video. That’s according to a new 100 page technical breakdown published by the developer today and available online. (Killzone: Shadow Fall, PS4)

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Sandmano  +   999d ago
Honestly cannot wait for this and mercenary.
ltachiUchiha  +   999d ago
I want to see more footage in another area, the game looks great so far.
NewMonday  +   999d ago
"demo offered up 60 AI characters, 940 entities, 8,200 physics objects, 500 particle systems, 120 voices and 110 ray casts"

this is important info that people mostly ignore, we argue about still pictures and some YouTube videos but forget the other elements of a game, the ram and APU of the PS4 will bring more to games than just graphics.

and looking ate the engine specs I see a potential 50% improvement from 2 factors, the available extra 4g of ram and improved HSA libraries.
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ltachiUchiha  +   999d ago

Cant argue wit u der lol.
vulcanproject  +   999d ago
The current game is using 3GB of memory for video and 1.7Gb for System/Shared. It is using 4.7Gb total. Obviously this build is not running on a machine where they think it only had 4Gb of memory, minus OS.

That hype that the demo only used 1.5Gb of memory....hmmmm.

We don't know what the OS overhead is at the moment either.

It is an early stage for development tools for the machine which would improve performance. Shadow fall will probably have to be finished and on the shelves before they get chance to use much better versions of Sony development tools. For example they had to create their own profilers because Sony devkit ones aren't finished yet.

Will have to wait and see what they can do with the remaining time they have before they launch the game.
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Ju  +   999d ago
It's particularly interesting if you look at the PDF and see the KZ3 vs. the KZ:SF character models - in a still shot - that they almost appear to look the same. It is when you enable the LOD that you notice a 4x higher vertex resolution in the SF model. And with it it will look totally different in motion with cloths animating much more naturally. Animation/AI overhead will never be captures in a screen shot. But we still argue about it here.
Autodidactdystopia  +   999d ago
Cool Profiling Tools :)
Reibooi  +   999d ago
I want to see another area as well. I hope most of the game has the feeling of this area. What I mean by that it it's so colorful and different looking then you would expect Killzone to look like after playing the first 3. I love it when something tries to make it self stand out with design and art style. I'm hoping Shadow Fall is much more varied. So excited to get to play it.
sync90  +   999d ago
Me too, hopefully we'll see some more gameplay at E3.
starchild  +   998d ago
I'm looking forward to seeing more as well. I have played and beaten all the Killzone games and although they aren't my very favorites I still think that they are solid and enjoyable action games.
Belking  +   999d ago
"Honestly cannot wait for this and mercenary."

You can and you
Sandmano  +   999d ago
hahaha yeah I will xD
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This sprinkler really beats the heat!

On topic, can't wait for the game. :D
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JP1369  +   999d ago
No idea why you got disagrees for that, I thought it was rather funny. I'll give you a bubble in an attempt to make up for the Negative Nancys.
rezzah  +   999d ago
ew your sprinkler is nasty
Majin-vegeta  +   999d ago
How about some Multiplayer info now??
Sandmano  +   999d ago
Really excited for the MP Im betting theyl show a MP trailer in E3, hoping for a complete overhaul.
HammadTheBeast  +   999d ago
Please have the same overall mechanics as Kill zone 2.

3 really was a down step from how awesome 2 was. The weight and atmosphere was just not there.
WildArmed  +   999d ago
Yes pleasee.
Killzone 2 played a lot better imo. Put a ton more hours into K2 than I did in K3.
Muerte2494  +   998d ago
i really hope listen to the community this time around. So many Killzone 2 players, myself included, weren't happy with the direction Killzone 3 took. Bring back to core Killzone 2 mechanics.
LOL_WUT  +   999d ago
"Guerrilla say the PS4 is “really easy to program for”, the GPU is “really fast” and the speedy RAM is “awesome”. "

Nice to hear some good feedback from Guerrilla Games regarding the hardware. Sony definitely learned from past mistakes and are on a roll.
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GiantFriendlyCrab  +   999d ago
video of this technical presentation
thechosenone  +   999d ago
@2:14 he chooses an overlay titled 'The Matrix'. lol Awesome.

So here we have proof that the KZ demo's intro was all in-game and not a cutscene like some people were claiming that it was. :O Thanks and +1 for the link.
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M-M  +   999d ago
I was amazed at how they were altering the wind in real time.
thechosenone  +   999d ago
I want to see what 4.7GB of VRAM can do, this year's E3 is going to be off the hook.
Computersaysno  +   999d ago
Well not much more I wouldn't expect. The game is already using 3Gb of memory for video as outlined by the technical paper. It seems this was the target they were aiming for knowing their expected system memory use and OS overheads for the rest of the 8Gb.

I wouldn't expect many games to use much more than this solely for video, its already in the ball park.

Having much more video memory isn't all that useful for a game only running in 1080p. You can use it and deploy it elsewhere, but beyond a certain point there it doesn't really impact the visuals significantly.

You are then just bound by how fast the GPU is and what it can manage rather than running out of memory.
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scheme_a  +   998d ago
I don't think it necessarily needs to be about the looks. Like newmonday said above, it can be about things that aren't easily visible in screenshot.

And I think if they can utilize the rest of the resource for things that matter to the gameplay and not the graphics, ultimately it will be better for the game.
Arai  +   999d ago
I can't wait to see what it will look like and how they used it all.
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Tonester925  +   999d ago
I wonder will the PS4 console be upgradable
M-M  +   999d ago
I doubt it, consoles were never made to be upgraded.
Kennytaur  +   999d ago
*cough* N64! *couch*
Utalkin2me  +   999d ago
Anyone remember sega's 32x or sega cd? But to answer your question tonester, not it will not be up-gradable im sure.
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travelguy2k  +   999d ago
Sony has a patent for upgrading a console processor...


Was never used for the PS3 as there were no ports available to plug into, but the PS4 could have been designed to take advantage of this tech.
leogets  +   999d ago
apparently they didn't show ps4 console at the reveal cos it shows ports that are upgradable like PC. interesting,could be rumour but there must b good reason they didn't show it and waiting for e3 to blow minds some more
sync90  +   999d ago
Not a chance in hell. last thing we need or sony want is a fragmented userbase
supersonicjerry  +   999d ago
Why was it 30FPS then??
I_am_Batman  +   999d ago
That's easy. If you play a game on PC and choose high settings, framerate drops. If you choose lower settings framerate raises. Since you won't be able to change graphical settings on a PS4 It's up to the developer to choose if they want to go for more performance or more complex graphics (more details, lighting, draw distance, ...).

Keep in mind that the dev kits weren't equiped with finalized specs yet.
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DigitalAnalog  +   999d ago
Copy/Paste this comment whenever someone keeps spouting the same nonsense questions on a "closed" system.
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Qrphe  +   999d ago
Because it's not a standard on consoles
MuhammadJA  +   999d ago
Because it's not possible.
sync90  +   999d ago
Why ask stupid questions??
shikamaroooo  +   999d ago
Imagine the draw distance with 7 gigs :o
ssj27  +   999d ago
"We "KZSF" are just scratching the surface"
I want a matrix mode for the campaign! And why not for the multiplayer..
I got a feeling PS4 will have this kind of modes, SONY bring cheats back! Please.. games without cheats are not the same.
Imagine having a cheat to unlock Matrix mode or other silly mode? Fun like old time..

Pc only feature I will like in the PS4 are mods.. that sometime to envi .. not more fps or more res..
travelguy2k  +   999d ago
Cheats are still around, but now we pay to unlock them...
younglj01  +   999d ago
This is only an launch title....


thanks for that youtube video the music was perfect.the Matrix mode made me feel some type of way.Maybe because I love The Matrix franchise now combine that with KillZone.Seriously after that teased please let me try that demo please!!!

The Matrix Mode on KillZone:Shadow Fall coming exclusive too the PS4 this = :)
Agent_hitman  +   999d ago
Nice.. I love reading news like this.. With Technical facts.. I want moar pleazzzze.
hesido  +   999d ago
I love how the ray-trace pass fixes gloss bleeding from cubemaps (not talking about obvious reflections on the water, but the glossy reflections on the concrete). It silently increases the image quality in a very pleasing way.
MasterCornholio  +   999d ago
And Nintendo said that other next gen systems would be on par to the Wii U.

I'm happy that Mark Cerny owned Iwata with the PS4 vastly superior performance when compared to the Wii U.

If Nintendo was right we would be gaming with marginally improved last gen games for the next 7 years and I doubt that anyone wants that.

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4lc4pon3  +   999d ago
nintendo specs are so far behind its mind blowing & they still feel they can charge for outdated 7 year old specs.

dont get me wrong i did buy a wiiu at launch and I did like it but it needs more games and IMO they should of made it a power house
josephayal  +   999d ago
can't wait , Killzone are the best looking console games
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KingKevo  +   999d ago
This is way to technically and not addressed to most of us, but its fascinating nontheless. Really cool that they have done this.
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SephirothX21  +   999d ago
40000 polygon characters. Characters this gen only have 10000 on average. That's impressive but I hope the levels are more open than the previous games. I'd like to get my hands on one of their character models so I can check it out in my own engine. The characters I use have no more than 10000 polygons because charges character rigging with characters over 10000.
DivineAssault  +   999d ago
Lets see how this all turns out.. With mercenary on vita & this on PS4, guerrilla will be getting some cash from me.. Im buying both day 1 as long as i see decent scores on em.. After Resistance & COD on vita from nihilistic, im a bit skeptical about playing a shooter on there but they got good devs this time so im sure it will be ok.. I dont even like shooters but i beat KZ3 & was impressed so these 2 will prolly be fun as well..
SugarSoSweet  +   999d ago
I don't understand why people think this game looks good (I;m talking graphically) It looks like a PS3 game I've seen PC games that blow this away
alb1899  +   998d ago
Wao! I remember when I saw the first game with was baseball from SEGA.....long time ago!
xX_InFamous  +   998d ago
Never realy like killzone except for one the ps2. Played the ps3 k2 and it was alright. Seeing the trailer for killzone shadow fall makes me want to get it. Im getting this game. Cant wait for this and infamous second son.
MattyG  +   998d ago
Why the hell is "What Child is This" playing in the background of that video?

O.T. Looks like it'll be a decent launch title, can't wait to see more.
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