The Wii U can still end up being a big success despite its poor launch, claims EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich.
Very doubtful, esp there is not third party support, nor does publishers seem to want to develop games for this console, I think it is doomed.
no third party support is who exactly?? EA? Even if the all of the third party support was there, people like you would be like, "OH well it can't keep up with the hardware inside of its competitors anyways... why would you get an inferior version" In this day in age very few people get only 1 console.
doubtful of what? The big N's success? They've been successful since the 80's. So successful that they pretty much live in a different plane of existence. Which probably explains why all their first party titles, despite what brand, always seems far out there.
Can't you remember gamecube flop. Berely 20mln consols sold lifetime.
@Picture_Dance dude, make sure you do your research before talking about stuff you know nothing about. Even with the gamecube sales of about 20 million plus, the console was sold at a profit since its launch so it WAS succesful from a business point of view… the first ever console nintendo has sold at a loss was the 3ds when they did the price drop thing… I'm really tired of haters spewing nonsense about a company that everyone should THANK for saving the industry after the atari/coleco/intellivision disaster in the 80's.
@ DA_SHREDDER- They have being successful, but not always successful, Gamecube, N64, & Virtual Boy comes to mind, losing market share 3 generations in a row isn't always being successful, & they started losing market share from the SNES days all the way to the GC, 3 gens in a row, when Sega obtained 52% market share with the Genesis. @ Lf_sIcKmAn- That's not being a hater, it's the truth. Just because they were profiting with the Gamecube, doesn't mean it was a success, maybe for you, but not for Nintendo. & trust me, they were not happy with those Gamecube sales at all, that's why they made a lot of price cuts, GC even hit $100 when PS2 & Xbox was still over $250 at the time & it wasn't meeting sales expectations. It takes more than just profits to be successful in this business, that's why they catered to the casuals, & because of them, not Nintendo fans, the Wii became successful, & by success, it's the success they wanted it to be at, & they would scratch their heads if the Wii stood around 20m & being sold at a profit, btw they have being losing market share with the SNES, N64 & GC, 3 gens in a row, they wanted that market share more than what they were profiting with each system sold, that is why Nintendo promptly dropped the price of the 3DS, because it wasn't selling & it was sold at a profit. & stop with that "Nintendo saved the industry" bull-crap, like seriously, who the f%^k cares nowadays apart from Nintendo fanboys, somebody else could have done that as well, maybe Sega could have done that or some other company could have done the same thing. & those fanboys with "Nintendo saved Bayonetta 2" like seriously, we don't know anything behind closed doors, maybe Nintendo paid them to have the game exclusive & then using some sort of PR talk by saying "Bayonetta 2 wouldn't have being possible if it wasn't for Nintendo" as if they're the ultimate saviors. PLEASE.
I think the PS4 is doomed. See I can type ridiculous comments as well.
I hope so. It doesn't help that this year's biggest releases seem to be skipping it, though.
Not ALL of em', son. What ~ not (even though that isn't confirmed) - having GTA:V will kill it? It's still getting games like Batman Arkham Origins, AC4 and Watch_Dogs - just to name a few.
Of course it can still be a big success. A reminder to everyone, we still haven't seen the biggest games from Nintendo yet on this system. Some people are so quick to judge something. Ironically if the PS4 had a similar situation, everyone would be saying, wait till Sony's big games all hit. Funny how Nintendo never gets the same treatment.
I agree. Lets just remind people what happened with the ps3. The PSV is in the same boat at the moment. It needs some of the big Sony IP's that are exclusive to the psv. I think once Nintendo give us Mario KartU, Zelda, Pikmin 3, and a new Mario game at the end of the year sales will pickup. You just have to look at how many copy's MaroU has sold on the WiiU to see that it is Nintendo's own games that push there consoles.
totally agree, look I am not going to sit here and pretend Nintendo is sitting pretty. I may be a fan of Nintendo, but I'm not delusional. I know that the 2nd half of this year is huge for them if they want to build up any sort of momentum leading into the holiday season. Since we all know it's going to be Sony (and MS too if they launch) that everyone is talking about this christmas. Nintendo needs to make sure that they have the quality software present to increase that userbase. Nintendo is walking on a thin ice, and they need to act quickly.
@Neonridr I agree with you there to Nintendo do need to bring out the big guns but I expect them to do this. I expect Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo to push hard this holiday season but because the WiiU will of been out 12 Months by then there will be some very good deals to be had as well as the big name games like Mario Kart and back catalogue of games to bundle with the console where the PS4 and Next xbox will only have a hand full of games at the start.
"Lets just remind people what happened with the ps3" Let me remind YOU what happened with the Ps3. It NEVER sold as poorly as Wii U even when it with these factors against it: -Not in EU for several months -Outrageous price -slow start to third party support I'll repeat myself since Wii U fans can't seem to get this through and I see the foolish PS3 comparison every other Wii U article. Ps3 ***NEVER*** did as poorly as Wii U and it had much more pressing factors against it.
@SilentNegotiator wow talk about spitting your dummy out. I never said it sold as poor as the WiiU but it was selling poor at the beginning and its lack of 1st party games were an issue. Sony corrected this and look what happened. That is my point. Start to speak like an adult rather than a kid with toys. The PSV has had a slow start to but again im not writing that console off. I don't think it will ever out sell the 3DS but I think once Sony get the right IP's out for the console sales will pickup and I also think the WiiU will to.
Ps3 never sold less than 200K WW in a single month. Comparing a system that has done CONSISTENTLY well to Wii U is completely incorrect. Gamecube has already proven that Nintendo exclusives with weak third party support do not make for any major revivals. Calling someone a kid over and over doesn't make you mature. But I hope it makes you feel better about making an argument that has been debunked a thousand times over.
Without 3rd party support the Wii U will have an extremely difficult time especially with the impending launch of real next gen systems. Nintendo has to be more productive with their 1st party titles and manage to convince 3rd partys to release games on the Wii U plus a price drop if the Wii U is closely priced to any other next gen system and they will be just fine.
People have to account for the fact that EA built it's next gen engine, for Gen 4 systems. They don't believe that Wii U is a gen 4 system. If Nintendo don't even get any of EA's sport games due to the Frostbite Engine 3, then Nintendo will have a very hard time. Nintendo really dig themselves a hole this time, and it shows. I am going to E3 this year, and I will look real carefully at the Pre E3 Nintendo booth. Nintendo better have games that deliver or they will bite the dust. I want to see Mario Kart, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros. 4, a New Metroid game, New Zelda, New F-zero, and even big surprises like GTA 5 announce for Wii U.
Even if the wii u is a total failure nintendo will just go all out on it's handheld systems, since that is it's strongest division.
I'm still amazed that Nintendo are not holding a press conference this year. They really should.
Why when Nintendo directs are a hundred times better and they can do as many as they want and not have to worry about the time and money it cost for them to do them live press conferences at e3 they will still be at e3 on the show floor with demos its just the conference that's not going to be live so expect about 3 to 5 Nintendo directs and even if they do 2 I bet you it will add up to way more time then they would have had live on stage I'm hype more for there's then the other 2 lol
I didn't even know what a Nintendo Direct was until about a month ago when Nintendo confirmed they would not be doing a presser at E3. They simply don't have enough exposure whereas E3 is massive to the point where casual gamers I know watch the conferences.
Nintendo missing ea sports games have never hurt Nintendo. When's the last time you ever heard anyone sy "i have to get that new madden on nintendo _____"?never. only sports games that succeed on Nintendo are Mario sport, wii sports, and tecmo bowl.
That's the problem. People that are buying the system are only buying it for Mario, Zelda, etc. The majority are going elsewhere and the Wii U needed to WOW everyone with some kind of graphical superiority over the PS3/XBOX and it failed to do that, I think they released too early and without an iconic launch game, just promises. Same situation with the Gamecube
luigis mansion is very iconic compared to what launch with wiiu. but I can't say theres anything wrong with not buying ea sports games considering they are the same every yar. why not just release dlc for new rosters instead of a full priced game? and to some Nintendo needed to show graphical power, to others they needed to show great experiences. and those that have tried nintendoland saw what experiences are coming and were sold.
The PS4 and Xbox 720 is going to make it rain 3rd party titles making them the preferred console for 3rd party AAA games.it going to be nintendos 1st party titles vs exclusives and a lot of 3rd party games from the Wii Us competitor consoles.
I dont understand these articles. So what if Nintendo gets its first party titles?? It didnt help the Gamecube escape a 3rd place finish. Is there nobody who is realistic here? It isn't like we want Nintendo to fail. They have just hurt themselves once again and it pisses me off. In the end the people who say they love Nintendo games will buy a WiiU but will STILL be vastly outnumbered by the big boys.
It will eventually be profitable for nintendo, as far as big success i don't see it appealing to alot of people outside of core nintendo fans or other getting a secondary system. Stop comparing the ps3 and the wii u, one was $600 and supply constrained the other is $300-350 ridiculously easy to find and being sold at a loss by some just to get rid of the thing. The system isn't appealing for people looking for a next gen system, it is fighting for the late gamer just now getting a gen 7 console and will do badly atm that. Had nintendo released it in 2009-2010 it likely had been received a decent amount better by everyone overall. The industry is moving on to a newer more powerful hardware, and we need to because the current gens are holding everyone(gamers and developers) back.
Ya think it can be successful? Well there's a surprise! Not. Its gonna be just fine.
watch this fall when the other systems come out, nintendo will have a system seller and a price drop ready for the holidays.
I am actually looking forward to the future of the Wii u. I am going to get it for its exclusives, like I did with the PS3 ps3 gave me great games such as: God of war Uncharted Heavy Rain Killzone etc Cant wait for "The Last Of Us" and "Beyond" Looking forward to playing: Mario (3d version) Donkey Kong Mario Kart Zelda F-zero etc I use my xbox for everything else!
At least the PS3 doubles as a blu ray player
it depends on your interpretation of success
I am actually looking forward to the future of the Wii u. I am going to get it for its exclusives, like I did with the PS3 ps3 gave me great games such as: God of war Uncharted Heavy Rain Killzone etc Looking forward to playing: Mario (3d version) Donkey Kong Mario Kart Zelda F-zero etc I use my xbox for everything else
@ tito You said anyone could of saved the industry even sega huh? Well your a true idiot cause sega couldn't even save themselves, much less the industry. People like u make me sick you never give nintendo credit for any of the great things they've done to get gaming where it is today. So YES, nintendo not only saved gaming but they paved they way with the nes system. They do some dumb shit that makes me scratch my head and ask " what the fuck are you doing nintendo?" The thing is I know their a company that's made mistakes but to say the gaming industry would be better off without them is ridiculous. Handheld gaming was invented by nintendo, so if you love your vita thank nintendo. Do you like playstation? Again thank nintendo because playstation wouldn't exist without them. Nintendo could of made a system with more grunt I agree, but you ppl forget there is a market for ppl who don't wana spend 4 to 5 hundred on a gaming console. Take your average consumer for example and let's say little tommy wants a game console for xmas. Ok he has two sisters his parents have to buy xmas for as well. When it comes time to buy him a system if the ps4 and 720 are sitting there on the shelf for 500 and the wii u is 250 with a game, which do you think the average parents gonna buy? The average parent is going to say no little tommy I'm not fucking paying 500 dollars for a damn game system so have a wii u and hope that shuts little tommys fucking mouth. Ok it may not go just like I wrote but you get my point. Nintendo didn't make the best hardware I agree, but what they did do was provide families with a more affordable option. I'm gonna buy a wii u and a ps4. Those are my systems of choice. But even if the wii u does start to sell well it will never be next gen if most peoples eyes. Some ppl can't admit when their wrong.
price drop & games will boost it but if nx gen systems are comparable in price, wii u wont recover.. Only a nintendo fan or child would chose a wii u over a nx box or ps4.. No offense but 9/10 core gamers that could only choose one, would choose the console that gets the most software choices & modern network functionality..
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