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Submitted by EverydayDigitals 423d ago | opinion piece

The Steam Box is Dead On Arrival

Everyday Digitals - The idea of being able to play games on the couch from arguably the best gaming platform on the market sounds great. In fact many people are already do just that. But instead of the plug & play usability of a gaming console, serious PC gamers for years have setup their computers in the living room and ran an HDMI or other, more elaborate setups out to their TVs in order to get the lean back experience. Valve made that experience more user-friendly last year by releasing a version of Steam with tweaked UI to better suit couch surfers and controllers. The release of "Big Picture Mode" was an obvious signal that Steam was vying for a more permanent spot in the living room. (PC, Steam Big Picture, Steam Box, Valve)

extermin8or  +   423d ago
hmm he has a point this isn't going to convert any PC gamers- and I can't see it having the exclusives to draw people to it-when it will have pretty much the same specs as ps4/next xbox- hmmm although if Valve say made half life 3 etc excluisve.... but I doubt they will tbh? :p
showtimefolks  +   422d ago
Guys any suggestion on purchasing a $500-600 PC? My surrender desktop just went bad and its about 4 years old

My budget is $500-600 any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks
Big_Mex  +   422d ago
http://www.reddit.com/r/bui... they have builds from people but usually on the higher end.

http://www.reddit.com/r/bui... usually has people looking for cheaper solutions.

http://www.reddit.com/r/bui... This is a $500 build that seems to be getting good responses.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/X... (link to parts)

Either way good luck!
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EverydayDigitals  +   422d ago
Digital Trends made a "Steam Box" for $500 that looks pretty good. http://www.digitaltrends.co...
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   422d ago
I saw a $700 build on Flipboard, in the gaming section that pretty future prof.it maxed everything out at high fps all except crisis 3 which played at high setting at 1080p and 44fps if I'm not mistaken.

that's consider cheap in the p.c world according to the article but if you have the coin then go for it.
BattleAxe  +   422d ago
The only way Steam would be able to market the Steam Box is if all of valve's own games were to be exclusive to Steam, kind of like what Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft do.

I think Valve has enough good games that they make on their own to attract many console gamers. Left 4 Dead is probably the IP that has the most mass market appeal, and Half Life 3, Portal 3 and a fully featured Counter Strike game with a full single player campaign and co-op mode would attract many more gamers out there. Valve needs to stop with this "Valve Time" bullshit, and start facilitating growth of their triple A titles and their console.
KentBlake  +   423d ago
I don't know...I have a big game collection on Steam, and it's just gathering digital dust, because I can't be bothered to get home from work, where I sat in front of a computer, and sit in front of another computer to play games. I play much more on my PS3 and 360 nowadays...if the Steambox has a decent performance, price, ease of use and, more importantly, a great controller that can allow me to play RTS games too, I might buy it and start PC gaming again.

I know everyone will say: "but you can connect your PC to your TV", but my computer is very big and heavy, and my living room just doesn't have any more space. It's just not practical to me. I think the Steambox is geared towards guys like me. The question is: how many of us are in the world?
EverydayDigitals  +   423d ago
You say you play PS3 and Xbox 360 now...Would you buy a Steam Box for $500+ instead of a PS4 or Next Xbox? The latter will be cheaper, have better performance (if you're spending less than $800 or so)and easily works on your TV.

Sure Steam has all of the RTS games (that I love as well) but you wont be playing those with a keyboard any how. Besides, have you ever played CIV 5 in 1080P? It blows.
KentBlake  +   423d ago
In fact, I'll probably buy them all. PS4 is for sure, NextXBox will depend on its exclusives, and Steambox if it appears to be good enough. I'm kind of a freak, I know.
aliengmr  +   422d ago
Amazing that you know the exact specs and pricing of something that doesn't exist.

And why does Civ 5 "blow" in 1080P? That makes no sense at all. Is it better in 720p?
MrsJazzy  +   422d ago
@aliengmr it's not hard to guess how much a PC cost. Steam boxes will use off the shelf parts. They won't be losing money on hardware like consoles typically do because it's an open platform. Doing so would alienate any other hardware makers from making their own Steam Boxes....but you would know that already because you actually read the article right?
LoveOfTheGame  +   422d ago
@aliengmr
Yes Civ 5 does blow in 1080P. I know that seems counter intuitive but some reason 1080P on that game makes everything extremely small or at least seem far away. I have it at a much lower resolution just so I can actually see everything.
aliengmr  +   422d ago
@MrsJazzy

Totally read it. And guessing still means no evidence at all.

I just think its strange that people assume they know enough to judge a business plan from Valve, having not actually seen a business plan.
extermin8or  +   422d ago
steambox is to be running linux so windows versions of games wont work...
EverydayDigitals  +   422d ago
That's what it says in the article ;)
aliengmr  +   422d ago
That of course assumes there will be:

A. Only one version of the "Steambox" (like the PS4 and 720)

B. That there won't be the option.

Since there was NO official reveal for a "Steambox" there isn't really anything to go on.

This was not said in the article.
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MrsJazzy  +   422d ago
@aliengmr Not sure if you're referring to the price of Steam Boxes or to the comment you responded to (it running linux)

Either way both were mentioned in the article.

A) There will be 3 types of Steam Boxes (Good, Better, Best) which came from Gabe himself. All will use off the shelf hardware as they aren't creating unique architecture for it, which is the whole point. It'll be upgradable.

B) You will have the option to add Windows to the machines if you want (mention in the article) but as you know this will effect the performance of the machine (Windows 7 uses at least 2GB of ram)
hennessey86  +   422d ago
I already
Play my PC(steam) on my living room TV so the steam box is useless to me.
PirateThom  +   422d ago
I just hooked my laptop to my TV via HDMI last night for the first time and was playing STALKER.... why does a Steam Box even exist?
Pintheshadows  +   422d ago
God, I love STALKER. Original, Clear Skies or CoP?
PirateThom  +   422d ago
Original.
Pintheshadows  +   422d ago
Nice. I'm playing CoP at the minute with the Misery mod.
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   422d ago
Mybe to move away from windows and do their own thing.if steam goes linex only you better believe every pc game is going linex aswell.
Spinal  +   422d ago
Never gonna happen. Repeat NEVER gonna happen.

The install base of Windows is far TOO HUGE for any business including game developers to stop producing software for windows. You're living in a dream world if you think Steam or any other game developer would stop supporting Windows their company will go the way of THQ and will have to sell their assets.

Think about what your saying don't you know that a Windows PC/Laptop is almost as common in a household as a TV? Think about it.
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LoveOfTheGame  +   422d ago
He didn't say they would stop supporting Windows, that would be crazy at first, but rather that if Valve starts making a bigger push toward linux other would start supporting it. Would make games on PC a lot more efficient.
spok22  +   422d ago
C'mon now... do they really do this for every single console coming out? -_-
Saryk  +   422d ago
You know I thought the Xbox would tank, go figure! The problem isn't the Steam box running games. The problem is how long? If the Valve can promise that the games on Steam will run on the Steam box for X years, then people would listen. I'd buy one!
xBigxBossx  +   422d ago
Like a true boss, I have a wireless HDMI. So playing on my 52 inch is child's play. Just plug in the hdmi and boot big picture and OMG I have a steam box that still let's you mod your games :)
sypher  +   422d ago
This has always been the problem with a 'Steam box' ever since Valve announced the thing. Seems like a money pit and Valve should stick to being a distribution service for gamers. The hardware business is the death of many corporations with grand plans and no prior experience.
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aliengmr  +   422d ago
Steam was supposed to be DOA too.

Maybe we can hold the predictions until Valve has something to show, beyond just Gaben interviews.

All we have is ideas from Gabe (which were completely misunderstood by most) and not much else. He also said he envisioned a 100$ in home streaming solution.

As for their Linux push, I say good. MS could use a wake up call.

Frankly this article and others like it, are worthless. They are based on almost no evidence at all and make some pretty bold assumptions.
papashango  +   422d ago
lol I remember beta steam days.

Valve got tons of flak when they announced Steam.
Sketchy_Galore  +   422d ago
I know nothing about specs or anything but I've loved just about everything Valve have put out so far. This could be their first huge misstep but I don't know. All I will say is, if they make Half-life 3 a steambox exclusive (or steambox and PC exclusive if that's how it works) I will consider that a scummier move than any gaming company has ever made before. With the cliffhanger ending and the ridiculous wait they owe as many people as possible the chance to finish the story. If they hold the thing back as a bargaining tool to sell their new console I will absolutely not buy either. I know.... I know... Threatening Valve with boycott doesn't have a successful history but I honestly know I will feel too insulted to give them my money.

Of course that's all academic as we know Half-life's cliffhanger ending was just Valve's way of trolling us by promising a conclusion that never appears.
nirwanda  +   422d ago
I wouldn't worry i think that steambox will be a product and a linux distro for everyone with a certain spec pc could download.
MrsJazzy  +   422d ago
Haven't read one comment yet that properly articulates a good reason why the Steam Box IS a good idea. Just people saying "we don't know enough"...but from what we do know it sounds like something that while may have the best intentions, doesn't have a target audience.

I know people love Valve but that doesn't mean their ideas shouldn't be challenged or questioned. I love Steam, that doesn't mean I have to love the idea of a "Steam Box".
lizard81288  +   422d ago
I think it would be a great idea. Maybe not for the PC crowd, but for those that don't want to update their PC evertime a powerhouse game comes out, this would be a good idea. Mix that in with Steam Sales, and their huge library and you have some potential.
aliengmr  +   422d ago
So because "you" think it might not have a target audience that makes the DOA claim valid?

And who are you to challenge Valve's ideas when they haven't even fully executed them? You think Valve is a bunch of upstart morons?

This isn't about defending Valve as much as challenge the credentials of one who claims the ability to tell the future.

Valve wants to move PC gaming to the living room and push Linux. As a PC gamer, I like that idea. But I'm not going to be some pretentious douche and make claims based on no hard facts and rooted in misunderstanding.

Ideas aren't an actual business plan. And until we get solid facts we can't assume anything. Unless you're just trolling.

Edit: And for the record there will NOT be three different "Steamboxes". Gabe was talking about three solutions to moving Steam/PC gaming to the living room. Only one was a PC in console form factor.

These plans are obviously subject to change, as Valve isn't the gang of idiots you take them for.
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WeAreLegion  +   422d ago
Sell it at a loss (making it cheap) and make Half-Life 3 a timed exclusive and you have a sale from me. Definitely. I need a new desktop. ;)
MultiConsoleGamer  +   422d ago
Fanboys getting their spin machine running early. It proves they're afraid of the competition.
Hicken  +   422d ago
You're quick to say fanboys are doing this or that, but I, oddly, never see you offer any evidence to support that. you just make your claim of fanboyism or trolling, and leave it at that.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   421d ago
Please allow me to "show my work" as they say in school.

The author of this article knows literally nothing about this product. He doesn't know how much it will cost, what games it will have, when it will go on sale, etc. So that calls into question his motivations when writting an article like this one.

I definitely would not be so critical unless I thought I had a very good reason.
Bonerboy  +   422d ago
Tough to say what its fate will be. Perhaps this thing is simply a year or two late to the party as this fellows article makes a lot of solid points.
Strongmad  +   422d ago
Steam box will be for maturing console gamers who want to get into PC gaming and dont have the tech no how to build one, PC gamers who do might want a second system and steam box may well fit the bill.

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