The technical director for Frostbite, Johan Andersson has announced on twitter why Frostbite 3 will not be on the WiiU.
If Frostbite 2 doesn't run on the Wii U, then it would have been really surprising if Frosbite 3 did. But I'm not sure if Wii U owners are interested in BF 4 or Dragon Age 3 (game using FB 3) anyway. Or if they are, never intended to play them on that system.
Ouch! Seriously, what did Nintendo do with all the money they made on the Wii? Because at this point they should start considering paying for 3rd party support. ;) Frostbite 3 a next-gen engine! Faithfuls exposed!
So right man, where did they spend the money in research and development because wiiu is not next gen and its only on par with current gen Most ext gen engines aren't gonna run on wiiu Nintendo better show. Lot at E3 otherwise wiiu will be a or gotten device that people will buy to only play Nintendo exclusives
@showtimefolks, I agree with a lot of what you said, however, let me point out one mistake: "...wiiu is not next gen..." ^Next Gen doesn't have to do with "specs", it has to do with the system releases. (ie: "Nintendo 64 and PSX", "PS2, Xbox and Gamecube", "Xbox 360, PS3, Wii".) Everyone acknowledged that the Wii was part of the last generation, I don't see how it'd be any different with the WiiU. Next Gen = Next GENERATION = "Generation"! Think about it. Generation. Think about it, with your logic, that's like saying that your father is in the same generation as you are, within your family. That's not right by any means. I agree that the WiiU lacks power, COMPARED to the PS4 (and maybe the nextbox- wait until it's announced.) but the misuse of "next gen" could be very aggravating to others.
They use it to build a console base off a specific market believing it would drive users to their new console. The specific market I'm referring to is the tablet market. Sadly it didn't have the effect they thought it. -- They went from "Hey here's something for the whole family to enjoy" to "Hey here's something for you to enjoy" -- They should have just made a wii2. Increase the specs to make the console more future-proof and pleasing to third party developers. Kept the motion gaming for the causal crowd. Possibly redefine the controller and motion gaming mechanics. Not only that but kept core games controller only. The tablet could've still been available for those who want it.
How could they not get Frostbite 2 working on WiiU if it already works with PS3/360?
Nintendo spent most of the money they earned from Wii days on numerous free for all Orgies, high class prostitutes with huge tits and getting high every weekend. The left over from all that sodomy went to developing the Wii U. How ironic isn't it. They've been Cum-drained as a company.
The comments here are kind of stupid. CryEngine 3, Anvil, Unreal 3+4, Hedgehog, and so many other engines run on Wii . EA and DICE were too damn lazy to port the engine over. EA is still butthurt over the whole origin fiasco. @LOL Wut "Because at this point they should start considering paying for 3rd party support. ;)" The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Lego City Undercover, Monster Hunter 3?????
@BitbyDeath They'd still need to rewrite parts to make it work on Wii U, likely. The fact they've moved on, they probably don't see this as worth any sort of investment or time.
@BitbyDeath The memory of the WiiU is slower than on systems that are 7 respectively 8 years older: WiiU: 12.8 GB/s 360: 22.4 GB/s PS3: 25.6 GB/s Doesn´t matter if there´s 2 GB of it if it´s that sluggish. Frostbite 2 runs on 256MB...
When I see BF4 or the mention of Frostbite I start getting sleepy. The only thing Frostbite related that intrigues me is the next Mass Effect.
What's funny is that the only time I've ever heard anyone say "next gen is not about specs, it's about releases" is this gen with the Wii U. I wonder why that could be.
@DragonKnight Because it's with the Wii U in particular that people insist that it is not a generation eight console based solely on its specifications. Not even the Wii received that sort of treatment and its specs were comparable to an original Xbox, perhaps even lower.
@PopRock359 People don't pretend the Wii U isn't a generation 8 console, in fact most people probably don't even know about the specific console generations. When people say the Wii U isn't next gen its because it came out 7 years after a console cycle started and is only marginally better than those consoles, if not worse in some aspects. The Wii U is TECHNICALLY next gen in terms of its release time frame; but in comparison to the Xbox 360 and PS3 specs it's laughable to label the Wii U as next gen...especially with what we know about the PS4. I get that it might be frustrating to hear so many disregard the Wii U by not saying it's next gen, but instead of arguing semantics just let it go.
@colinzeal that information was given out by a person on a forum who had no expertise other than google, it probably came down to a lack of optimization to the gpgpu. From a couple interviews i've heard the 1gb ram is not a bottleneck for the wii u, even if it could have been more.
@Thirty3Three- I agree that the term has changed since the Wii came out. Before then, developers would just say next gen. Wii is what caused developers to coin the term "High end next gen" ie when they announced Bioshock, they stated for "all High end next gen systems" ie they now needed to re-state what Next Gen exactly was. Regardless of what its called, it means NOTHING for the Wii U, its a pretty stupid agrument and just makes anyone who supports Wii U look even dumber. Wii is current gen yes? WTF DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING IF Mass Effect, Assassain's Creed, GTA, Red Dead, LA Noire, Bioshock, Battlefield. Dead Space etc all skipped the system? So.....because its "called" current gen or it "released" around the same time it some how mains it will get the same games? So.....if it didn't happen for the Wii....its somehow going to happen with the Wii U? LMFAO! Now....100 million units couldn't make that reality happen. What needs to be coined here is a term known as "HIGH END NEXT GEN" as in "ONLY PC PS4 and 720" Now this is not me thats dubbed this label, you can think the rest of the gaming industry for doing that. When we are talking about Next gen as in NEW LOOKING GAMES and NEW AI FEATURES....we are talking about "HIGH END NEXT GEN" (say it with me) "HIGH END NEXT GEN". PS4, PC, 720. ie "HIGH END NEXT GEN", aka "EVERYTHING BUT A NINTENDO SYSTEM" aka "Wii vs PS3,PC,360' aka "Wii U vs PS4, PC, XB Fusion" Its funny cause I actually agreed with you. (I still do on some level) but No...the Wii U is next gen by name only. The Nextbox will be a high end next gen system with PC and PS4. Gaming didn't let Wii's dated tech hold it back from making amazing games, I don't see why they will let Wii U.
@Thirty3Three - Define the terms however you want, but that next gen system is comparable in power to current systems, so not calling it next gen seems perfectly reasonable to me.
@ ijust2good: EVERY console should be made like that. Sure, we'd have Commodore 64 graphics in 2016, but think of the FUN!
@yodagamer, might have some truth to it considering all the OS issues they are having and that's running on a full 1GB
it's becoming commonplace now. Heads are going to roll for all of this incompetence.
all this means is that nintendo has yet again failed to appeal to a larger audience which is what they were aiming for with the wiiU and games like bayonetta2 and zombie U. looks like they need to rethink their strategy and cater to their nintendo fans with their tried and trusted titles like zelda, xeno blade and whatever it is nintendo fans are so fond of. the real crisis is if they fail in that respect too. personally i really hate that the halfhearted attempts by using old titles and sticking a "U" at the end like super mario U its as if they are not even trying anymore. not all doom and gloom just yet however
Really? Is this really bad news for Nintendo? Think about it. Nintendo made a system before with a lack of 3rd party support when they made the Wii. Now if they wanted those type of games, why wouldn't they just make a system that was truly "high end"? Its cause they don't want to. THINK ABOUT IT! Why should Nintendo as a publisher waste money making a beast system for games that will and have sold better on Sony and MS systems? I'm sorry but what Nintendo did with the Wii wasn't some sort of mistake. They knew VERY DAMN WELL WHAT THEY WHERE DOING! You guys do understand that Nintendo is purposely getting there crowd not get use to certain IP's? They don't want 3rd party support in that respect, they want 3rd parties to make "default exclusives" by making a weak system, they are now avoiding ports from PS4 and 720. ie LESS COMPETITION FOR NINTENDO'S OWN IP's. Genius. No mistake was made with the Wii U, its exactly what Nintendo wanted. Many of you have stated on here a whole lot "I'm buying it for Nintendo games" that is the attitude they want to hear. So your money when to ONLY Nintendo for the system clearly and your games are ONLY Nintendo games too? Sounds so bad for Nintendo. LOL!
@_-EDMIX-_ All due respect, I did NOT buy a Wii U for Nintento exclusives. I bought it with hopes that there would be decent (existant?) 3rd-party support. "They knew VERY DAMN WELL WHAT THEY WHERE DOING!" By that do you mean, they want to be at the bottom? Cause I don't want to play on the system that has little to no 3rd-party support. Nintendo can race to the bottom if they wish, I'll choose to jump ship!
Smells of EA stink lies and influence. Hmmm, so Crytek Engine 3 runs on Wii U (Shadow of the Eternals using this engine and will be for PC/WiiU) and Frostbite 3 can run on Xbox360/PS3 but cannot run on Wii U. It sure smells like a lie.
Interesting point, I'm surprised no one pointed this out.
And the way EA has been unsupportive of the wii U, suggests your right.
Yep, the fact that Frostbite 3 runs on the PS3 and 360 makes the rest of the statement pretty much redundant. Of course the engine will run on the Wii U, they just don't want it to.
exactly... unless they wanna admit how inferior of an engine Frostbite 3. i mean, why would CryEngine 3 run on Wii U; or Unreal Engine 3 (and some 4), or any of Ubisoft's game engine (like that of Watch_Dogs) run on Wii U, but they can't make FB3 work on it? at least CryTek had the balls to admit that the reason they won't bring Crysis 3 in the Wii U (albeit admitting that they were able to run Crysis3 in it) is because EA doesn't want to publish it for the Nintendo console.
Then no. I won't be surprised if they can't get any of the new star wars games to run either...Or any of their games when it comes to EA....since EA is still butthurtt about no origins. Although, Had Nintendo went through, I bet EA would be singing on top of a mountain about how fantastic the Wiiu is, just like they did when it was announced.
well i guess you're right to some extent but that would imply that EA is not interested on developing for the wiiu, the real question is why?
Wow Way to straight up LIE to Gamers! Just tell the truth EA, Poor WiiU sales (Less than 4 Million) is not enough to warrant porting games to the WiiU. making up some crap about the Frostbite 2 Engine not running on the WiiU is CRAP.
Need for Speed Most Wanted U runs Frostbite 2 Engine with the PC textures and assets perfectly fine at 30 fps I assume 30. An EA game. :P
Mosted Wanted doesnt use FB2 it uses Criterion's Hot Pursuit engine
I am pretty sure if Nintendo sales skyrockected over the next year or two then sure Frostbite 3 would be on WiiU almost instantly. EA though WiiU would sell faster than the Wii and it didn't give them gold with Mass Effect 3, and Need for Speed U on WiiU. Which mind you Frostbite 2 runs fine with Need for Speed U. An EA game most are ignoring in thinking about this.