Submitted by Xieldos 846d ago | opinion piece

Nintendo's struggle to find a place for it's fledgling console

Call of Duty: Ghosts, Battlefield 4 and the latest Madden all have two things in common. The first being that they will all be in millions of homes by the end of the year, each comfortably shifting enough copies to make the grinning money men of both Activision and EA tilt back in their chair, smoke a cigar and have a small toast to congratulate a fantastic marketing campaign.

The second is that none of them are coming to Wii U. (Nintendo, Wii U)

Donnieboi  +   846d ago
Yeah if they wan't to get their casuals back (due to the high amount of consoles it sold Nintendo with their first Wii), they need to offer more of the kinds of games that drew casuals in in the first place. But they also have to keep in mind the core too, since the casual market is kind of finicky and unreliable at times (they come and go at a whim, and casuals are not known for showing loyalty like core gamer's do).
PopRocks359  +   846d ago
Yeah, the casual push was not as strong with this console. Matter of fact, the general push really wasn't that strong. Should they start marketing this thing more effectively this summer as rumored, I can't help but wonder how it will play out.
Donnieboi  +   846d ago
Yeah, I think that if they remind casuals that all their wii games, wii motes, and weight scales still work on the Wii U--AND convince those same users that NEW games will come out for the Wii U that still use older tech such as the Wii-Mote/Wii-motion-plus and the old wii scale, then they would see it as a console that can also tend to their motion gaming needs. Without the added focus on "ease-of-play" mechanics, the casuals will continue to be clueless as to whether it can cater to their needs.
insomnium2  +   846d ago
Wii's success was pure luck. There was no way to repeat that kind of a luck with ANY kind of console since casuals have moved on to the next fad.

Only Sony can repeat something like 100 million sold soon 3rd time in a row but that's only cause they have the games to do it. There's nothing else to it.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   846d ago
it is a hard balancing act.

Even if they get the casual support-
Releasing WiiU Sport and WiiU Fit... lots of people will accuse them of going "Soft" not "Hardcore".

But it would be money.


So right, Adverts need to be more frequent and better executed.
refocusedman  +   846d ago
What people dont seem to realize is that the games are not what drew casual crowd to the WII. It was the accessibility and simplicity of the control scheme. The only thing that you had to do was pick up the controller and in a few minutes you understood how to play most games. The Wii U controller on the other hand is not simple; its an Ipad with too many buttons. Most if not all casual gamers are not gonna be able to just pick up that controller and play. The defination of casual games is the ability to pick it up on the fly and quickly learn how to play. You cant do that on the Wii U. As for the hardcore market, most developers took note that hardcore games werent selling on nintendos system with a 90 million install base, so I highly doubt they are gonna risk making games on a system with a 3.8 million install base.
Donnieboi  +   846d ago
That's what i already said:

"Yeah, I think that if they remind casuals that all their wii games, wii motes, and weight scales still work on the Wii U--AND convince those same users that NEW games will come out for the Wii U that still use older tech such as the Wii-Mote/Wii-motion-plus and the old wii scale, then they would see it as a console that can also tend to their motion gaming needs. Without the added focus on "ease-of-play" mechanics, the casuals will continue to be clueless as to whether it can cater to their needs."

...So why is your reply directed at me?
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slapedurmomsace  +   846d ago
I don't think they're getting the casuals back, IMO no core console maker is. They've moved on to tablet and smart phone games. At best the casuals may come in after a few years and a price drop, by than it would be too late for the Wii U
Donnieboi  +   846d ago
U might have a good point there. I was just throwing out some idea's. Either way, there's no way Wii's sales numbers can be replicated again without getting the casuals to buy the Wii U for the same reasons they wanted the Wii.
Garethvk  +   846d ago
Ours just gathers dust. Aside from Mario, nothing has really been that interesting and even Mario got old fast.
Theyellowflash30  +   846d ago
You must be a shooting game fan. Because the Wii U has tons of great RPG and Action games coming.

Xenoblade 2, The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Pikmin 3, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem,
majiebeast  +   846d ago
So because he got sick of Mario he is a shooting game fan?

All the games you listed arent out yet and most of them dont have a release date. He never said he didnt like whats coming up for Nintendo. But he probably doesnt like the current released games. So in your eyes that makes him a shooting game fan? Maybe a little less jumping to conclusions next time.
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Theyellowflash30  +   846d ago
He said nothing interests him but Mario. And it's not like he said he is looking forward to other games on the Wii U.

The Wii U lacks the shooters PS3 and Xbox 360 fans love. So that's why I assumed that.

However, if you like RPG and action games, there should be plenty of games that interest him.

June 2013 for The WOnderful 101
August 2013 for Pikmin 3
Xenoblade 2 late 2013 in Japan, early 2014 america

Bayonetta and Shin Megami I have no clue.
refocusedman  +   846d ago
The truth is right NOW the Wii U has very little in terms of software options. As for the games you listed, I just find it very hard to label a game as great when it hasnt been released yet. Actually those games you mentioned seem to still be in development. Whether your a nintendo fan or not, you should at least try to be objective and somewhat unbiased in your thinking.
LOL_WUT  +   846d ago
Dude he chose Mario out of all the other games on the Wii U and yet you call him a shooting game fan?

We get it you like your console, but you don't have to be so defensive about it. ;)
MasterCornholio  +   846d ago

I loath Mario but that doesn't make me an FPS lover in fact I hate the majority of FPS especially military FPs like call of duty.
Why is it so difficult for Nintendo fans to admit that Nintendo made some mistakes with the Wii U? It really isn't that difficult to do at all.

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Knushwood Butt  +   845d ago
Last time I checked, Pikmin 3 is a strategy game.

I guess if you drink enough of the Nintendo Kool Aid you'll believe anything.
OwlEyes  +   846d ago
Call of Duty: Ghosts is almost certainly coming to Wii U.
Theyellowflash30  +   846d ago
Activision never said Call of Duty Ghosts wasn't coming to Wii U.
Kingthrash360  +   846d ago
ditching E3 wasn't a good move in order to find a place in peoples livingrooms with new more powerful consoles coming.
Trago1337  +   846d ago
They aren't ditching E3 >_>
brewin  +   846d ago
Its amazing to me how many people lack true reading and listening abilities. Nintendo NEVER said ANYWHERE they wont be at E3. They said they would APPROACH IT DIFFERENTLY this year. That means several smaller, more personal events so press can actually play and ENJOY the games.

I seriously cannot wait till all these haters and misinformed people are stuck picking their jaws off the floor once they see the games Nintendo has been working on. Take off your fucking fanboy goggles and do some reading kiddies!
Kingthrash360  +   846d ago
lol your funny guy.. if they aren't doing the usual conference that they do ...like when they showed zelda for gc and had fanboys crying and flocking for the games after the conference ...and now they arent haveing a conference just a showing mostly behind closed doors when they have a struggling less than a year old system that need all the push it can get right now is the definition of ditching. say and make all yhe excuses you can for the but this is the worst marketing choice ive seen since sony did it to the vita. im never a fan boy im a gamer all day every day lil homie I just call ot how I see it and tgis move is ditching and letting sony and MS have the spotlight...its just dumb...like your comment...fanboy
brewin  +   845d ago
Beeen a hardcore gamer since the early 80 there buddy. I own and love virtually every system ever released that mattered. Even the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast. Its sad that you REALLY think Nintendo is abandoning e3 altogether. They are just doing it differently. What's wrong with that? The hoopla that surrounds these press conferences is becoming more and more lame and unnecessary. I for one am glad that Nintendo is recognizing this and changing the format. Its typical fanboy reactions to spas over shit like this, which is what ur doing. Have u seen what they have is store? No, u haven't. So stfu and wait til after e3 before you talk shit and spread false information. Fan kid.
brewin  +   846d ago
This article is pure trolling trash. Cod Ghosts will be on Wii U, as will many other games that wont come to other systems. Im tired of these "opinion pieces" that get looked at as real, valuable articles. It was the same thing with those Xbox "always on" articles. Its garbage clogging up the site. Fuckin christ... The Wii U will be foine, even without Madden or Battlefield. I ddint buy a next gen system to play current gen games. Ive still got my ps360 for that. Just garbage...
Theyellowflash30  +   846d ago
I remember when the 3DS got doom article after doom article...some things never change.
MilkMan  +   846d ago
LMFAO. Man, the title of this article is hilarious.
Thanks bro.
DivineAssault  +   846d ago
nintendo needs support from 3rd party but wont get it unless more ppl buy the console.. Its a weird circle of doom that surrounds it.. I mean unless they drop a fantastic 1st party game thats well marketed & sells A LOT, its going to remain this way throughout its life... Im sure its going to have games i personally will love but as far as the whole world goes, im not too sure.. The nx gen consoles are 6 months away & i dont see wii u putting out anything like that any time soon..
MattS  +   846d ago
The grammar in the headline is incorrect. "It's" means "it is".

Games press gets this wrong all the time.
Magnus  +   846d ago
Nintendo needs to rethink a strategy on the console and market it towards the fans who have stuck around Nintendo since the NES days. And push the console towards the casuals that they have had before. And they have to push the console towards 3rd party studios.Nintendo should at least open up some of the flood gates and let some shovelware come to the console until the decent titles arrive. I honestly wouldn't mind playing Tomb Raider or Bioshock Infinite on the Wii-U i think it would be interesting. Nintendo pulled a miricale with the 3DS they can do it again with the Wii-U.
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ps3_pwns  +   846d ago
i know a place for nintendos fledgling console! in the garbage
Agent_hitman  +   846d ago
Is it safe to say that Nintendo will be the next Dreamcast?.
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jakmckratos  +   845d ago
Oh shut up. They released the console too early(probably on purpose as they knew the other two power houses would out-do them) and have a lack of software. I love great graphics but it doesnt truly matter if they game is awesome on it's own. And who's to say Smash Bros, Mario 3D and Zelda won't look their most beuatiful on the Wii U. Look at my name..I am a diehard PS3 fan but I can't be any more sick of nay sayers this early in the life of a console. So it doesnt have any games huh? Well give it time. I'll admit I play my 3DS WAY more than the Vita...not because it has worst graphics but because it has great exclusive games. Pikmin 3, Yarn Yoshi and Windwaker HD all look GREAT and none of those are even meant to move consoles as Zelda, Mario Kart, SMash Bros, or Mario 3D...and who knows maybe we'll even see Metroid, Star Fox, and our Pokemon 3D RPG we so desperately want. STFU and wait for the gamezzz

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