"By skipping the big E3 press event, Nintendo is effectively saying they are not in the same league as Microsoft and Sony." - Wii U Daily
It's a big mistake for any company to diminish their presence at e3. It's the most important gaming event of the calendar year. I'm also shocked 2k games is skipping the big show entirely, along with a few other smaller companies.
Nintendo decided to make this E3 all about showing games and allowing attentants to play them. So how exactly is this a problem?? The last time I check E3 is about Games, Games and Games. Sony/Microsoft need to do their traditional press conference because they have to showcase their new hardware. Nintendo did that last year.
"Nintendo decided to make this E3 all about showing games" Behind closed doors "and allowing attentants to play them" Leaving millions in the dark. "So how exactly is this a problem??" You really need to ask?
Well, there's no live streams or hype for games being p played in some showroom somewhere.
Booths will never get a tenth as much attention or coverage as a conference. Saving a couple million will not be justified when they're losing 90% of the attention of the most important media event of the year and losing the confidence of investors by not having a conference. Nintendo having a couple of bad conferences does not justify it either; that's not a call for them to stop, but to revise. Only through the thickest of fanboy goggles could anyone think that Nintendo made a good move.
Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony typically have a conference every year to discuss new games at E3. Nintendo not doing that is a big blow to their public reputation. Could mean they are lacking games, but then again they have Nintendo Direct they will likely use to showcase their games before E3. If neither are present I would expect Nintendo to be forfeiting this generation. They clearly see their mistake this time I believe. Even if the machine is 20-30 times more powerful than the Wii. I still expect Nintendo to come out this gen in 2nd place. I could be wrong and Andriod consoles could hit Nintendo's market as well, but not certain on that. Its still way to early to spell doom for Nintendo just yet. I say 2015 we will have a clear picture.
"The last time I check E3 is about Games, Games and Games." Ya..and the Wii-U is struggling to even get those.
@ BitbyDeath The points you are trying to make are nonsense. Please try and explain: "Leaving millions in the dark" when journalist and gaming websites will provide coverage of the games they are shown and have played. "You really need to ask?" Yes, please let me know how their decision to focus on games is a problem.
LOL, as if the majority of gamers watch/know what E3 is? Ask all the soccer moms, preteens, and casuals if they know/care about what E3 is.
But you don't get the word of mouth if gamers online don't get the news to spread. You need a majority of dedicated gamers attention for any of it to drip down to the casual audience. And gamers WILL be overwhelmingly discussing the Ps4/720 conferences over anything Nintendo shows off at a booth or behind a closed door.
The thing is Logic, with Sony and Nintendo they are showing us their games, releasing videos, ect ect. Nintendo is doing stuff behind closed doors, meaning we'll have to wait longer to see any of that gameplay or may not even get to see it. Now putting that aside, those who don't watch E3, what are they most likely to hear about a game that was shown to everyone, including the public, or a game that was shown to a very tiny base. Word of mouth is stronger, especially if they'll be able to look it up after being told it. Yes there are a bunch of people who don't know what E3 is, but there's also a bunch of people in America who don't know the first president. There's never a "majority" that knows something if you put it like that, but that doesn't mean E3 isn't one of the biggest, if not is, events out there.
Anyone who wants info on the Wii U can type in "Wii U" in Google and the first link that will pop up will be Nintendo's Direct Feed. It's the SAME thing. Media will have Nintendo's Direct Feed on their sites just like they have Sony/Microsoft's conferences. We will get gameplay, previews, screens and trailers of Wii U games on Youtube just like we will have gameplay, screens, previews, and trailers of 720/PS4 games. Unless you plan on physically being at E3, you will get EQUAL online coverage from the Big Three. "Nintendo is doing stuff behind closed doors, meaning we'll have to wait longer to see any of that gameplay or may not even get to see it." Explain to me how GTAV is the most anticipated game of the year, yet all the gameplay thats been shown of it is behind closed doors? You don't need some big ass song and dance conference to get exposure.
E3 is important in terms of feeding the press, which in turn feeds public awareness. You're right; it's really only us lot that will actually watch the whole thing. But it's less about E3 as an event, more about generating a buzz via the (especially non-gaming) press and therefore creating that wider awareness among the demographics you mentioned. Well, that's just how I see it, anyway.
^^Its not the conference that the press cares about. Its the information WITHIN that conference that people want. Lets assume Sony/Microsoft did their conferences, yet we subtract the audience(no fanboy cheerleaders and no press). Afterwards, Sony/Microsoft make recordings of their conferences and post the videos on Youtube on the morning of June 10th, naming them "Sony Direct Feed" and "Microsoft Direct Feed" respectively. Can you please explain to me what difference it would make if Sony/Microsoft took this approach as opposed to a live conference? In both cases we will have gameplay footage, the opinions of the media, price drop announcements etc. So what exactly is the problem? Too many of you live in the console war bubble. You put way too much stock into E3. E3 didn't sell the Wii. Oprah, smart marketing, and word of mouth did.
first I notice with my first post I said Sony and Nintendo, I meant Sony and Microsoft XD (not directed at you Logic, just in general) "Explain to me how GTAV is the most anticipated game of the year, yet all the gameplay thats been shown of it is behind closed doors?" Because the majority knows how GTA plays already, however that doesn't mean they haven't been shouting at Rockstar these pasts months demanding screens/footage (on their site there were countless posts about this). If Nintendo announced a game called " Jabba The Hutt: Huts Escape" (don't ask me why I just imaged that), but showed it behind closed doors the only thing we would be able to know about this game is that it's a starwars game and the little bit of info of the gameplay. The vast majority of people here in this world thinks like this. "I'll believe it when I see it" How often do we get to see the gameplay footage of games behind closed doors? Either never or it's months, and i mean months away. if Nintendo did release gameplay footage say the next dya or week, then yea it';s not at all harmful, but the focus of gamers will be on Microsoft and Sony. More people will be able to write about previews, shwo off the gameplay, ect ect. Of course we care about the info at the conference more than the conference itself, but being there to present it makes a bigger impact than telling people this stuff behind doors and waiting for it to reach the public. If Sony or Microsoft missed E3 it would still be a big deal, sure the majority of gamers don't use the net to check this stuff up, but that's a pretty big chunk that does. I like to think that the general way that gamers feel towards a game/announcement on the internet reflects how it'll do in reality. You act as if the internet for gamers is a small thing when it comes to these things, but it's not. Yes not everyone watches E3, but either way the amount of attention that a video is gonna get compared to a written announcement with no screens or antyhing to really back it up is much larger. @SilentNegotiator Actually it is XD, different type, but still is. @Logic: "Will your tv turn itself on when E3 starts?" Yes, timer + DVR functions :P . I know I am a disgusting human.
"Anyone who wants info on the Wii U can type in "Wii U" in Google and the first link that will pop up will be Nintendo's Direct Feed. It's the SAME thing" *FACEPALM x10* No. E3 is marketing. Someone googling is not marketing.
"*FACEPALM x10* No. E3 is marketing. Someone googling is not marketing." FACEPALM x20 How does one GET to E3 content if they don't look for it? Is Kaz Hirai or Major Nelson going to bitchslap everyone on the planet and tell them to watch E3? Will your computer turn itself on when E3 starts? Will your tv turn itself on when E3 starts? @Nitro- LMAO!
logic its this simple you don't announce major games on the e3 floor!! Doesn't matter if nintendo is at e3. All major news outlets will be attending and unless they go looking for an announcement they wont see it.
b-b-b-but the Nintendo fans say Nintendo doesn't need no stinkin' e3 cause Nintendo are just so awesome and strong!. . . . *tries to hold back laughter*
They don't need E3. In this day and age, Nintendo could unveil a new game to three people in the middle of a desert. News and pictures of the event would still be on the internet within an hour. Or to put in another way, if E3 was "so" important, why did both Sony and Microsoft choose to show off their new consoles beforehand?
Saying Nintendo doesn't need E3 is both arrogance and ignorance.... Hope you know that OwlEyes. You talk like you visualize Nintendo being 'Above everyone else'....really, really pathetic I have to say.
here in N4G they believe everyone in the world tunes into E3.. wrong the people that actually watch E3 are a very small minority. Ask any average person what is E3.... " E3 What? " they will reply. Gamers watch E3 casual gamers don't know what that is even.
Agreed. It's the one event where the world takes notice of games. Even non gaming media outlets cover E3 to some degree. This is the time Nintendo really needs to impress.
Nintendo own their market, they don't need to compete with sony or microsoft directly, they will continue to just make first party titles till the end of time.
That's actually very true. But E3 is still very important. It has a riple effect on people who don't even know about the show. It also drives consumer sales through the holiday season.
It's not a "catastrophe". That is just extreme wording. Nintendo will bounce back like always.
after two e3 disasters they are not repeating it for the 3rd time. something tells me there is nothing substantial to show anyways as their bodies aint ready to show the promised zelda hd.
I really think Nintendo should have prepared for an E3 conference. This is one of the biggest E3's of the next generation. Wii U needs to use this opportunity to flex it's muscle if it want's to stand against PS4 and 720, imo.
I'm pretty indifferent on the matter since I have no real opinion on how it will go either way. On the one hand, it would be tough for Nintendo to get a lot of attention while competing with two brand new consoles. On the other, it's the biggest game event of the year. Oh well. At least they don't run the risk of another embarrassing presentation. I of course am talking about the "interference issues" with Skyward Sword during E3 2010.
Agreed. I'm also leaning a little more neutral too, but my only pet-peeve is that it's the fact that it's during PS4 and 720's big conferences. If I was Iwata, I would show the new rumored Retro Studio game, The new Mario, SMT x Fire Emblem, monster Hunter 4, Zelda WW remake, and the new Zelda cannon game, all during a big event made just for Nintendo. THAT list right there is VERY impressive, so I see how they can still have a strong presence. I just wish they didn't officially cancel the presentation itself, because it looks bad. At least we can look forward to those games :).
I think it's a bit unfair to highlight that Skyward Sword demo (especially since that conference was boss) when MS have had their problems on stage showing Kinect and Sony last year with Wonderbook.
Exactly It has a ton of games to show and the Wii U needs to exposure. They shouldn't go into hiding because of the PS4 and the Nextbox They have Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart U, Super Smash Bros U, Yoshi Yarn, Zelda U, Retro Studios new game, new IPs to show....I could go on Why do a smaller show with less exposure when they have so much to show off. Seriously it makes then look like they are running scared.