Submitted by JonnyBigBoss 822d ago | opinion piece

Can A 3D Mario Really Save the Troubled Wii U?

GR writes: "The Wii U has been troublesome for Nintendo since it launched last year. Nintendo has responded by putting together a six-month campaign to get the console back on the map. It was kickstarted by one of the most impactful system updates ever seen, and will soon be followed by the console's most important game: its first 3D Mario." (Wii U)

alexcosborn  +   822d ago
One can only hope.
JonnyBigBoss  +   822d ago
Especially me...

abzdine  +   822d ago
i dont think it's troubled and at the same time Nintendo shouldn't be expecting much when they see the games available so far.

a 3D mario will for sure sell well but not to the point to be that killer app everybody should buy a Wii U to play. I am for example waiting for the new Zelda like everytime before i invest and i dont think that's gonna happen soon unfortunately.
dedicatedtogamers  +   822d ago
It certainly won't boost sales. With the exception of Super Mario 64, 3D Mario has never helped a Nintendo console sell. It has always been 2D Mario and Mario Kart (even Mario Kart isn't the ultimate answer, since it didn't help the GCN sell).
Moonman  +   822d ago
Hell yeah it can!
AJBACK2FRAG  +   821d ago
I've said a few times but if Nintendo developed and released a sequel to Super Mario 64 they'd be back in the money printing business.
If a 3d Mario can't at least help the Wii U. What will? As a Wii U owner and Nintendo fanman I must say I think it's a great time to own a Wii U and a very exciting time to be a Nintendo fan.
I'll also PUT MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS and purchase this game as soon as it's released.
YoungPlex  +   821d ago
True one can only wish, but realistically it will take a combination of a 3D Mario, and many other first-party/third-party offerings such as Mario Kart, SSB, TLOZ, Pikmin, Boyonetta, The Wonderful 101, Rayman Legends, and X, to help the console achieve success!
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dbjj12088  +   822d ago
I believe so. Even if they did Galaxy 3 it would be worth it to own a Wii U for.
Biohazard8860  +   822d ago
Id love a mario galaxy in HD.
majiebeast  +   822d ago
Doubt it when NSMBU couldnt do it. NSMB sold 30million copies SMG1,2 sold 16 million together.

Nintendo need more then 2-3 games. They need to have a game or 2 every month and thats gonna be hard, with almost no third party support.

They cant bank on another lightning in a bottle thing, like wiifit and wiisports which sold the Wii.

Good advertisement. Who ever greenlit that dubstep commercial must have fallen on his head that day.
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weekev15  +   822d ago
Not sure I agree here. From August onwards there will be Pikmin 3, 3D Mario, yarn yoshi, smash brothers(rumoured 2013), wonderful 101, wii fit u(i know one for the casuals), wii party (another 1 for the casuals), windwaker hd. super luigi U(I know its DLC but its effectively a new release)

Thats just the Nintendo exclusive titles. They will also have AC4, Watch Dogs, Batman, COD, Rayman, Disney Infinity, plus a fair few more 3rd party titles.

We also may see news of new Retro game, Bayonetta 2 and new Zelda coming out.

I know not all of those titles float everyones boat but there is pretty much something for everyone. 2013 is gonna be expensive.
DarkBlood  +   822d ago
and mario kart u, thats alot of games in that time frame not that im complaining or anything
weekev15  +   822d ago
Damn forgot MarioKart. how the hell did I do that? OT WiiU will be fine. Mario HD will not single handedly save it, but it will contribute along with the other titles I mentioned and many unannounced ones.
weekev15  +   822d ago
I dont understand how people can disagree that the games I listed are coming out....n4g is a strange place.
Realplaya  +   822d ago
@ majiebeast the release date of the Wii was 2006 the release of NSMB Wii was released in 2009 3 years later with a huge install base. that game went on to sale over 26.25 million lifetime and NSMBU has sol over 2 million on a system with a rough estimate of 4 million maybe a little more. So your comparison is off. I will bet you that If Nintendo had released a game that everyone wanted and had rave reviews then that game would have moved more systems. Fact is I will buy the 3d mario game before I by the 2d one. Also Nintendo has still not released a game that will show the true performance of the system

The dubstep commercial wasn't bad it wasn't good but it was supposed to be hi tempo commercial but the music choice wasn't the smartest.
thaimasker  +   822d ago
Pretty much every 3D mario game beside for Sunshine sold 10 mil. So there is a demand. Even the Super mario 64 remakes on DS and 3DS sold 10 mil which is insane.

I think Mario Kart will be more of a system seller tho but they will sell close most likely
kirbyu  +   821d ago
There is no Super Mario 64 remake on 3DS.
thaimasker  +   821d ago
Yeah your right, confusing with all these remakes, sequels and what not.
PSNintyGamer  +   822d ago
People seem to be forgeting that the New Super Mario Bros games always came after a console had its initial install base.

NSMB Ds came after Super Mario 64 Ds.
NSMB Wii came after Super Mario Galaxy.

NSMB 2 came after Super Mario 3D land, yet it still hasn't outsold it.

This time around NSMB came first, so we will see how it does.
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Jek_Porkins  +   822d ago
Six months in and it needed saving? Not sure I agree with that, but the combination of the first HD 3D Mario game, with a Mario Kart, Smash Brothers and Zelda lineup can work wonders for sure.
jcnba28  +   822d ago
Super Mario Galaxy - 10.8 million copies sold.

Yes, I think the successor to the highest rated game of last gen will move units.

Just to compare the highest selling PS3 exclusive is GT5 and sold 8.9 million copies.
The 33m selling Mario Kart Wii says hi :-)
Crillvirus81  +   822d ago
Yes it will
from the beach  +   822d ago
Well, 'save'. If it's as good as the Galaxy games - and why wouldn't it be? - then it'll most likely be 2013's best.

I think Nintendo's lineup this winter will be 3D Mario, Mario Kart U and Retro's game.
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level 360  +   822d ago
All this stuff about Mario games over and over and over again is what's actually killing the Nintendo brand.

It's like that's the only game they have. Nothing more, so what's the point in building another Nintendo console.

They really need to promote other game titles.

Whymii  +   821d ago
I can see where you're coming from, but I think you are wrong. Fact is that Mario games sell incredibly well and no publisher would drop such an incredibly successful IP.

During the last generation, both Sony and MS have published numerous sequels of their most valuable IPs. MS has given us 4 Gears or War and Halo games (inc. Wars) , and that's not including the DLCs. Sony has done similar with Little Big Planet, Uncharted, Resistance and Killzone. Funny how no-one makes the same claim about them.

Truth is, Mario is Nintendo and Nintendo is Mario. What you're forgetting is that Nintendo is also Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, Pikmin, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Brainage, Animal Crossing, etc. This list may not interest the "hardcore" gamer, but it sure has made a hell of lot of money for Nintendo:


That's a list of IP's and sales figures that any publisher would want. You can cry that most aren't "hardcore" games, but I would argue that their sales figures are insanely hardcore. Nintendo could probably sell just about any one of those IPs for more than what THQ creditors got for all of theirs. God knows what's Mario worth?

So no, Mario is not killing Nintendo. They're are in a rough patch with the wii u, but if anyone can turn it around, it would have to be Nintendo.
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tweet75  +   822d ago
nintendo is really brining most of its big guns this year. zelda HD and 3d mario and mario kart wii u and luigi U all already confirmed for this year
smashman98  +   822d ago
Nintendo will be fine Mario Zelda smash and metroid that's all it takes 4 them
stage88  +   822d ago
Another Mario?

Which ones this Mario 68?
eagle21  +   822d ago
Hopefully it's like Mario 64 doofus..lol. ;p
JustinWeinblatt  +   821d ago
There have been 5 3D Mario games since the N64 came out.
ninjagoat  +   822d ago
Nintendo need to concentrate on there core gamers and forget Playstation and xbox. There Mistake is taken notice. There controls and system is unique as it is. Nintendo can bring there own Library to life like never before with the power they already have bring the sales then they will get the interest from the other developers.
jakmckratos  +   822d ago
Worked for the 3ds..this and mario kart together
Ck1x  +   822d ago
So let me get this straight, people on this site actually believe that KZ:SF will sell PS4's but a new 3d Mario will do nothing for the WiiU!
Just meditate and think on that for awhile...
How crazy and absurd are people willing to be?
It's not about Mario saving the WiiU as it is more about him putting a new spark under the system that will make people take notice.
The rest of the games will be extra fuel to keep it going
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jay2  +   822d ago
LOL_WUT  +   822d ago
I know it'll move lots of software it has to. ;)
tweet75  +   822d ago
yes this and a new HD zelda will make nintendo millions
jacksheen0000  +   822d ago
I look forward to mario 3D. I Hope it's good.
knifefight  +   821d ago
Pfft, Mario can't even save the princess. She's always in some other castle.
prettyboy12  +   821d ago
that was pretty hilariuos
Whymii  +   821d ago
My 5 year old, who is an absolute Mario fanatic, asked me the other day why Peach keeps on getting kidnapped? He plays every Mario game and loves them all. What can I say, the kid knows quality.

I told him that it's "because Bowser likes her and wants to marry her". He thought for a moments and came back with "well obviously she doesn't like him if he has to kidnap her. Why doesn't Mario or Princess tell him?"

I told him to post it in Miiverse and see if Bowser gets the hint. Another moment passes before I get "how can he read it, he's a dragon?" Got me there.
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Satirical  +   821d ago
It can only help, but I think Mario Kart and Supersmash Bros. will have a much more significant impact.
thaimasker  +   821d ago
well smash bros will also come on 3DS so I dunno know.
mamotte  +   821d ago
I dont know, specially here in N4G, where everyone wish for something, and then, when announced, is hated and doomed.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   821d ago
Can Mario save the WiiU?
Like Mario is Obi-Wan Kenobi and the WiiU is Princess Leia, he can!

Even if you strike Mario down he will whisper useful advice into Link's ears.
"Use the Triforce Link!"

And then he will appear to Sony and Microsoft in spirit form with a vicious army of cute Ewoks!

As Link almost gets killed and Sony will step in to save him because Sony is Link's father...

OK, that doesn't make sense...

Well, Starting over-
Yes , Mario will bring sales and shift units but there must be more 1st party games than Mario revealed in order to boost consumer confidence.
D_RoyJenkins  +   821d ago
For people saying it will, what's your reasoning? Nintendo's first party games didn't help sell the gamecube (their last non-gimmick console) so what's changed?
Whymii  +   821d ago
I'm not saying that it definitely will but Mario games sold incredibly well on the wii. The top ten selling games of all time are all Nintendo, of which 5 are wii games and 2 of them are Mario games with a combined sales figure of over 60 million.


Even if you try the argument that Mario Kart was bundled, then you're supporting the view that Mario can sell consoles. Time will tell if the wii u will emulate that sales success of the wii, but make no mistake, Mario sells and Nintendo knows it.
Ck1x  +   821d ago
Well its obvious that for people to try and make it seem like Mario does't help sell systems, they almost always go back to the GC which launched over 11yrs ago!(The GC didn't even launch with a SM game) Since then the Mario franchise has become even more popular and the closest example of this formula would be the 3ds getting both SM3d land and MK7 around the very same timeframe.
D_RoyJenkins  +   821d ago
The gamecube was Nintendo's lastly non-gimmick console. Motion controls is what sold the Wii, the games benefited from the large install base.
deafdani  +   821d ago
Nope. Not a single game can sustain a console, not even a brand as powerful as Mario (although it helps a great deal on sales, that's for sure).

But a 3D Mario, along with a Zelda, and a Mario Kart, and a Mario Party, and other Nintendo games... yeah, those games will definitely help to maintain the Wii U afloat even if its third party support falters.

Of course, the best thing would be if it was strong in both fronts (first and third party content). It will definitely get strong first party support (all Nintendo consoles always did), but regarding third party, only time will tell... but seeing how Nintendo's home consoles haven't had decent third party support since the SNES, I won't hold my breath.
Rrobba  +   821d ago
Maybe not. But this along with Mario Kart, Wind Waker HD, new Zelda, Smash Bros, Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade 2, Yoshi Yarn, Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 should do the trick.

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