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Submitted by stormtrooper 485d ago | article

4 Claims the Wii U can make that the Xbox 720 and PS4 can’t

There’s been a lot of talk that the new Xbox 720 and PS4 are going to take this generation of consoles by storm. The Wii U may not be blowing gamers away, but it can still hold its own. Here are 4 claims that the Wii U can make that the Xbox 720 and PS4 can’t. (Wii U)

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ShugaCane  +   485d ago | Well said
" I don’t want to be bothered with a share button, I just want to play games."

Well, that button won't prevent you from playing games if you don't want to use it...
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andrewer  +   485d ago
Indeed, but the Share button was a very horrible idea. Gaming industry should stimulate gaming, not sharing. And that ridiculous thing that a friend can play for you some part of the game just proves that gamers are getting weaker, or that Sony thinks it. Thank god that it didn't exist back in Contra and first Zelda games.
adventureghost124  +   485d ago
Or that could mean that games are getting harder. And if you want help you now have the option to do it with any one, any where, at any time
MasterCornholio  +   485d ago
Well thats just dumb. No one is forcing you to use the share feature or to allow someone else to control your game. So if you hand over the controls to somebody else the only one to blame for that will be you.

Honestly i welcome the share feature and unlike the tablet controller im not forced to use it.
mercyme   485d ago | Spam
Harpers_Ferry  +   485d ago
Anyone who can't appreciate the idea of the share button, hasn't been part of the magic that is a Rockstar game launch.

Some of the glitches that people find in those games are more fun than the games themselves.
andrewer  +   485d ago
@ adventureghost124
HARDER? DID YOU EVEN PLAY CONTRA ONCE? MAN THAT SHIT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! and almost all games back then were freaking difficult. Nowadays it's easy peasy...I can finish them lol

@ MasterCornholio
What I'm saying is that what they should focus isn't sharing shit, but improve gameplay somehow. Share doesn't improve gameplay at all. And the "friend plays for you" shouldn't be stimulated, that's what I'm saying too. The game is your challenge and only yours. You can't say that you finish if you didn't play some parts... And honestly, I like Nintendo because they are not like Sony with their "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" style. Nintendo risks their entire company to deliver something new, what Sony doesn't seem to want to do, even if it is for gaming as a whole. Don' get me wrong, PS2 was my favorite console of all time, but, really? PS4 is frustrating.

@ Harpers_Ferry
I'm used to PC with fraps :/ so that's not a problem for me...
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Harpers_Ferry  +   485d ago
@andrewer

So you enjoy the feature on the PC, but don't want console-only gamers to enjoy it? Features like this should be supported until they are commonplace, not shunned.

As for the whole "take over for your friend" thing, I think it's brilliant. One of the best parts of early console gaming was playing with friends. If you enjoyed early console games with friends, chances are you had one of those "Oh come on, how did you die again? Let me try" and pass the controller moments. This feature is the modern day equivalent to that, allowing people to come as close to that as you can get while still being states or even countries apart. All it needs now is the ability to punch your friend through the internet, and we're all set.
adventureghost124  +   485d ago
@andrewer you know its not impossible for games these days to be harder have you even seen the massive amounts of Indie puzzle games? what about Ninja Gaiden? Thats always been hard as fuck, and stop acting as if you know the exact future of how games are going to be, you don't know and nobody else knows except the people making the games. and like other people have said the share button is OPTIONAL, So posting a video of a game you played on console won't cost you $150 to buy a capture device. And yes I know Contra is hard, I HAVE IT.
MikeMyers  +   485d ago
What a weak list.

4. Retro Games,

They will all have retro games. Nintendo has been around the longest so of course they have older titles.

3. Non-annoying Share Button

You don't have to use it if you don't want. How can an added feature be a negative?

2. Backwards compatibility

The other systems aren't out yet so it's too early to be making this claim.

1. First

Great list! How ingenious.
grimmweisse  +   485d ago
Then go back to playing your contra while the rest if us enjoy modern gaming and its features! Man you can talk some nonsense, the share button is completely optional as a use. Next time check the differences between mandatory and optional!
andrewer  +   485d ago
@adventureghost124
you played Contra and think nowadays games are difficult? I don't think they are difficult, even having Contra too alongside several other nes, atari and even ms-dos games (text rpgs) lol. I just don't like the idea that Sony is taking to gamers, I mean, that it is important to share. I disagree completely with that, and thank god Nintendo doesn't do that...

@Harpers_Ferry
If you like the friends play for you then you're bad at gaming and need help, ok I understand that there are people like that now, thx :)
And....LOL I say PC it becomes personal. I JUST SAID I NEVER HAD PROBLEMS WITH SHARING, BUT DIDN'T SAY THAT CONSOLE GAMERS SHOULDN'T HAVE IT...Stop whining...jesus.

@Ritsujun
*facepalm* I have a PC. NOW DON'T START A PC-CONSOLE FIGHT. I just said I have a PC because Hardcore games I play there and the zeldas, marios, super smash etc I play at Nintendo consoles. Don't come with arguments such as exclusives etc because that's the way I play and I don't want another stupid fight over PC vs Consoles...
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Ritsujun  +   485d ago
andrewer enjoys those PS3-level and X360-level games on Weeeee Me.
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Harpers_Ferry  +   485d ago
@andrewer

It's not a matter of necessity, it's a matter of fun. Considering your prime example of difficulty thus far is Contra, I'm not sure you are quite equipped to be questioning the capability of others. I'm also not sure where your hostility is coming from, as no part of my post become personal at the mention of PC gaming, and I was certainly not whining. I just find it odd that someone would find a feature enjoyable on one platform, yet a "horrible idea" on another. Of course, your most recent post has revealed your bias and antagonistic nature, so I guess any attempts at rational discussion are wasted here.
andrewer  +   485d ago
@Harpers_Ferry
1 - "So you enjoy the feature on the PC, but don't want console-only gamers to enjoy it?" Never said that, that's what I meant...
2 - I never said it was a good idea in the PC either actually, but it certainly won't be getting out...
3 - I consider the challenge of a game a very important thing and PERSONALLY don't think "sharing" is the way gaming industry should be going.
4 - "I'm used to PC with fraps :/ so that's not a problem for me..." lol I was only provoking, I actually don't use it haha
5 - I admit I overreacted a little bit, I like the Wii U but normally the articles defending it have pretty bad arguments...And I really think your own experience is more valuable than sharing it...
6 - Sorry, I didn't want to be hostile :/ I kinda raged :P
Knushwood Butt  +   485d ago
Don't some Nintendo games include built in tutorials that show you how to beat certain sections of games?
Davoh  +   485d ago
My Opinion on the Share button
Gamers who post videos on YouTube currently use capture cards which allows them to edit their gameplay on their computers before upload. This gives them more creative control and allows them to produce an often more professional videos, which the Share button seemingly will not. I'm not saying that the Share button won't be interesting, but I fail to see it taking off as much as Sony would like. If anything, I can imagine a lot of half-arsed attempts at making gaming series.
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ReubenPatrick  +   485d ago
Why not? It's an optional feature. Who wouldn't want to share a short clip of a funny glitch or horrible cringe-worthy one liners :D
Yodagamer  +   484d ago
Wait you have a problem with sony's share button? Nintendo has also implemented a share like function with the miiverse and rumors have it the next xbox will have one as well. It's a feature that will be there, but you don't have to use it. When they force it upon us then i'll be upset.
Gaming_Guru  +   484d ago
At: andrewer

Are you serious, what do you think "cross game chat" is? What do you think Halo 4's "theater mode" is? Lastly what do you think Xbox Live's "party mode" is?

PSN for many years was considered behind in the online space because PSN didn't have unified social features like Xbox Live, developers would have to implement them through their games.

Having a screen sharing feature while your PSN friend plays a game and you are able to take over the game if that friend allows you has nothing to do with gamers getting weaker or Sony implying gamers are getting weaker.

Games like Bioshock when the game is a walk-through with a big arrow telling where to go / how to get there and giving the player answers to clues when looking at objectives is what will cripple gaming. Buying a strategy guide or getting help from a friend isn't.
boing1  +   484d ago
This button will change the way we play and socialize.
dafegamer  +   484d ago
ever heared of lets player?
adventureghost124  +   485d ago
Thank you!
avengers1978  +   485d ago
Released first... But totally dropped the ball with there head start. B/C doesn't seem to help sell systems... Retro games... Refer yourself to psn store, tons of retro games. No share button, seems like a downside not an upside.
Dj7FairyTail  +   485d ago
no start button now what u do
xtremeimport  +   484d ago
author is really digging deep, huh?
showtimefolks  +   484d ago
Yeh lets hate on Sony and ms since they have yet to show basically anything via a public demo.

We know what wiiu can and can't do, it's a fine system all it needs are a lot of games

Share button hate is just not understandable no one is forcing anyone to use that button, it's there and we won't even see the use of it till 3-4 years down the road when developers have ample time to play with it and do something really amazing

Look at this gen after year 3 it was some of the best looking and over all best games of this gen

Instead of hate why not give it some time before we actually get to play with the feature.
OmegaSlayer  +   484d ago
The guy who wrote this article is a real idiot. Period.
humbleopinion  +   484d ago
" I don’t want to be bothered with a share button, I just want to play games."

Actually, ff that's what he cares about then the WiiU is probably not the best candidate in the first place. Most 3rd party publishers completely ignore it already, and diving into the next gen the trend isn't very likely to change for the better.
yewles1  +   485d ago
1. Headstart console curse. Wii didn't win the 7th Gen because it came out first,it won because it DIDN'T! No console won in sales because it came out first.

2. That is until later down the line when they remove it in a later revision like the Wii Family Edition and Wii Mini, or like in the DSi and DSi XL (what, you thought it was only Sony that did that? sheesh, you guys...)

3. A button... really...

4. Nintendo has the MOST retro games on it's Virtual Console, but it's not exactly a monopoly on that front, know what I mean?...
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GamersRulz  +   485d ago
1- Playstation 2 says mot*&%&ckin freaking Hello!
ShugaCane  +   485d ago
Technically, the first console of the 6th generation is the Dreamcast.
barb_wire  +   485d ago
Think you mean Dreamcast..
Dj7FairyTail  +   485d ago
Dreamcast didnt make it through so it dont count
Menech  +   485d ago
@Dj7FairyTail

Dumb ass comment of the day is awarded to you sir.
Dannycr  +   484d ago
The NES did and also some Gameboys and the DS I think
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BosSSyndrome  +   484d ago
How are they supposed to remove backwards compatibility when Wii remotes are used in some Wii U games such as NSMBU.
yewles1  +   484d ago
Patch in extensive Pro Controller support. The HAVE a secondary controller made for the current console, they should make use of it.
Rrobba  +   485d ago
They left out the most important one.

Ninty exclusives.
BosSSyndrome  +   484d ago
Who the fuck can disagree with this? It's not an opinion! You can't disagree with a fact!
Myst  +   485d ago
I really wonder what the author has against the share button. The reasoning that was given was just too poor to take serious.
uuaschbaer  +   485d ago
- That the button is there suggests that Sony and developers are serious about the kind of functions the button implies;

- which suggests a risk that such functions will be integral to some games in the future and a risk that Sony will make many attempts to persuade gamers to use them (which also squares with the fact that Sony and other companies can make money by recording everything gamers do);

- which would be annoying for gamers who like privacy.
Oschino1907  +   485d ago
I guess if you haven't read or watched anything about the share button other then that it exist I could see how that would be a concern.

But anyone who knows anything about it thus far would see how crazy and conspiracy theory sounding that comes off as.

The list is a really sad one. Does Gaikai not exist anymore now, it will make BC a non issue? Has this person even see the amount of retro and retro styled games are already on PSN for PS3. I would have to assume only more retro games to come and with Gaikai that number to explode.
brave27heart  +   485d ago
The share functions arent integral to games, its just there, all the time, giving you the option to use it or not. Its like me saying "Oh, playing Mario on the gamepad not on my TV is a stupid idea. I dont like it therefore its rubbish".

An optional feature should never be used to discount a console.
uuaschbaer  +   485d ago
I never said the share button was integral to games, I suggested that social functions might be incorporated in some games according to a hypothetical line of reasoning (as has been revealed for Deep Down), and I suggested that the author of the article could've reasoned that the appearance of the button on the controller can be used as inductive evidence to argue that sony will be integrating social functionality heavily. As in: if the button wasn't there we wouldn't be certain that Sony was all that invested in its *announced* plans to integrate fb etc. into the Playstation 4. Which is pretty much undeniable unless you're going to tell me that the button has nothing to do with social networks.

Given the fact that the PS3 already logs everything you do and sends that information to Sony, Sony's partnership with fb (you know, that company the raison d'être of which is gathering and selling information about people) might indeed reasonably be considered questionable. In fact, Sony announced it will monitor your behaviour and use that data to decide what ads to push in your face.

Conspiracies are secret, this is just an overt deal which some people reasonably consider a step backwards.
Summons75  +   485d ago
It's the idea behind the button. Sure the upload a video is a neat concept or easier streaming for people on twitch but now there will be way more spoilers flooding YouTube or kids spamming call of duty no scope videos ( because we really need more of those). They are also letting gamers continue to lose any skill or seriousness they once had. It's bad enough most games hold our hands now and basically play the game for us but now we have a button lets lets anyone in the world just play the game. Why practice and get better at what's difficult when you can let Joe Shmoe do it for you. Honestly it's offensive especially after the clear welcome of games like demon souls, dark souls, 1999mode in bioshock. Now inestead of learning from your mistakes in dark souls you can have a skilled player play your game, you gain the trophies and look like you did it yourself. Way back when games were actually difficult you talked up an accomplishment friends told you to come over and do it again to see it. Now the go to excuse is "I have the achievement so clearly I did it". The share button was stupid when. It was introduced and I'm sure it will die quickly just like sixaxis did on the ps3
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gamer42  +   485d ago
Why do you hate the share button, it's not like we are required to use it. It won't stop you from playing the games on it.
spoonard  +   485d ago
1.) Will it maintain it's lead? The answer there is a resounding NO. I'm guessing the MS and Sony will sell that many consoles within the first 3 months of their respective consoles life.

2.) Microsoft hasn't said anything about backwards compatibility, and Sony IS providing backwards compatibility, just not in a traditional sense.

3,) The share buttons mere presence literally causes you annoyance? It is just a button, y'know. You don't have to actually PUSH it. That makes it's use OPTIONAL. And by the way, you can take screenshots and share them on the WiiU through the MiiVerse app. So the WiiU kinda DOES have a share function as well, does that annoy you?

4.) As of now we don't know what's going to be available for the Xbox and PS4 when it comes to retro gaming so this isn't even an educated claim.
Novistador  +   485d ago
"2.) Microsoft hasn't said anything about backwards compatibility, and Sony IS providing backwards compatibility, just not in a traditional sense."
Sony dropped the ball on this, eventually they will have a virtual library but it wont be at launch. It's a feature that will come out "eventually" meaning if you bought a hard copy instead of a digital copy you will have to keep your Ps3 hooked up.
Saigon  +   485d ago
I am going to disagree with that statement because we don't know what Sony has planned either. All we know is that Gaikai will be offered to replace BC. We are not certain how the function will be implied. This is the same with MS; based on the technology they are rumored to using, MS technically won't have BC built in. Lets just wait until E3 or the conferences in May to see what both consoles will offer regarding the function before we judge.
awesomeperson  +   485d ago
"dropped the ball"

It was either make available the functionality for streaming past games through Gaikai, leaving it out altogether, or including a CELL processor so that it has a decent chance of being able to be backwards compatible. The last most likely inflating the price unnecessarily.

I know which option I would choose, but to be honest, I very rarely actually feel the need for backwards compatability.

It's one of those features everyone likes to have, but doesn't get as much use (especially a year into the consoles lifecycle) as the noise made for it would reason.
JustinWeinblatt  +   484d ago
@ #1 If you really think that, then you haven't been following the games industry that much. If we conservatively estimate that the Wii U will only sell 3.5 million units by the time the other consoles launch, and another one million in the three months after they launch (which would be downright disastrous numbers for Nintendo), then that would be 4.5 million units. Do you think that Microsoft and Sony will both sell 4.5 million units in their first three months?

Well, the X-Box 360 sold about 2 million units in its first three months (less than Wii U sold in that timeframe by the way), and the PS3 sold about 2.8 million (about 400K more than the Wii U). So... they'd each have to just about double the success of their predecessors. Not likely.
jcnba28  +   485d ago
I'm so glad Nintendo didn't incorporate Facebook into their console and made Miiverse instead, it's brilliant.
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stuna1  +   485d ago
@jcnba28

You obviously haven't been on PS Home, because it's far from a ghost town!
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WeAreLegion  +   485d ago
Disregarding the ridiculous points this person makes, I'm not sure the author is older than ten. It's written like a third grade essay, both in form and grasp of the English language.
jameson12345  +   485d ago
I know the PS4 and XBOX 720 will probably sell at a faster rate than the Wii U for the first half year. But at that point I'm worried about the industry in general. There is not nearly the same amount of hype for ANY console outside the gaming community as there was in 2005 with the Wii, 360, and PS3. I really hope there is not a huge drop off like with the Wii U because all the fans bought them, but no one else does. It's a different economy than it was in 2005, and these new consoles are not breaking new ground in the gaming industry at the same level of their predecessors. (We are pretty much going from low spec PCs to mid-level spec PCs, with some new ideas) In the long run people will buy all three consoles because they are all good consoles with a lot to offer, but I'm hoping this will not come after several months or even years of stagnant sales, because the industry is vulnerable right now, and I don't want anything to happen to it.
jameson12345  +   485d ago
Politicians spewing anti violent video game hate, a slowly recovering economy, still popular PS3 and Xbox 360, sales of highly anticipated games falling far below their publisher's expectations, and the Wii U, PS4, and 720 will not be huge jumps visual wise compared to the PS3 and 360 (compare this to the jump from the Xbox to the Xbox 360).
Oschino1907  +   485d ago
Visuals don't need a huge boost. More so stable running games capable of more detail, physics and overall size then ever before to make games more immersive.
stuna1  +   485d ago
I think it would be safe to say that the PS4 and NextBox will probably sell at a faster rate than the WII U, mainly because I believe the PS3 and Xbox 360 had bigger core fan bases than the WII, and I believe that will translate into sales when it comes to the PS4 & NextBox.

The WII had the biggest casual fan base out the three, and that's something that can't really be debated.
mercyme   485d ago | Spam
imXify  +   485d ago
Sorry but those points fails more than Spongebob in boating school....
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josephayal  +   485d ago
It would be boring if all three consoles were the same, The PS4 , 720 and Wiiu will all be great consoles in their own right
m2stech  +   485d ago
WiiU is helping Nintendo to have Sega and Atari's fate!
L0YD  +   485d ago
1.Shitty hardware
2.Milked to no end franchises
3.Region Lock
4.No multiplat
Biohazard8860  +   485d ago
retro games? PS1 PS2 games say hello?
Axonometri  +   485d ago
Nintendo does also have their own version of a sharing and caring slash peer help system for the Wii U, YES, NO?

Albeit numbed down in comparison to the planned PS4 version of sharing and help, but it's there. Even with the ability to draw things like cute fuzzy animals.
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strickers  +   485d ago
That was a desperate , pathetic little list .
ps3_pwns  +   485d ago
i know 1 of the Claims the Wii U can make that the Xbox 720 and PS4 can’t.

the wii u has no games is one of the claims the second is it has no third party support the third is it haS crap online and 4th same mario games on each nintendo console.

recap of nintendos claims
1. no games
2. no third party suppport
3. crap online.
4. same games released on every nint console mario zelda etc
soonic7  +   485d ago
That evil share button. It is going to jump out of the controller, punch you in the face, then break your console just to prevent you from playing.
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Stroke666  +   485d ago
sorry but the share button thing being annoying is bull. I'm a wii u owner and one of the things that got me to get my system was the fact that mid game i could push the home button and go to the internet or contact my friends via miiverse or even wiichat. the take over for your friend thing I personally wouldnt use but hey if it floats someones boat rock on. what the share button is, is the usual nintendo innovates and the comp copies and modifies. imitation is a form of flattery and once again ninty should be flattered. fanbaoys don't attack, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the share button thing if i like an idea on one system how hypocritical of me would it be not to like it on another. there is nothing particularly special in my book about the share button so that won't be the reason i purchase my ps4. I waiting for tha must have game and a price to determine just when I will be making that purchase.
OrionNoctis  +   485d ago
the person who wrote this should start thinking in doing something else...jus saying...
TheGamingArt  +   485d ago
Wate of time and an article. Don't click it >.<
sourav93  +   485d ago
I'm glad there's a share button. I've always wanted to upload gameplay but never thought it'd be worth it to invest in a pvr. Now I'll be able to do it with just a press of a button.
themanaround  +   485d ago
yet another post to startup wiiu hate! why even post this,when will it stop.
DivineAssault  +   485d ago
i cant believe theres some hate on that share button lol.. DONT USE IT THEN! I bet when he sees other ppl sharing epic moments in games with each other, his opinion will change.. Theres been times when playing a game that i wish i couldve shown my friends but it was over before i had a chance to record it..

With PS4 i can send it at anytime.. Even make quick how-to strategy videos to post on youtube or something.. That share button is great! Just an angry nintendo fan lashing out i guess..
vishmarx  +   485d ago
wow.how shitty.
i hope those arent the reasons why someone ends up getting a wii u over ps4/720
everything except backwards compatiblity(not like wii had that many great games)
is beyond idiotic
TBONEJF  +   485d ago
Who cares bout CLAIMS stop comparing which system have better graphics/power. as long they all give out great games for us too play. And besides it just came out last NOV give it some time too release new games later this year
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ajax17  +   485d ago
Well that article was good for a laugh.
edonus  +   485d ago
The WiiU is a great console it truly is.... The problem is that there are 2 greater consoles coming over the horizon. In a vacuum the WiiU is excellent. Put it like this.....If you love Killzone2, God Of War 3, The Uncharted series too name a few the WiiU can out perform all of those games. It has enough power to do those games and then some.

Its not fair but it the nature of the beast, the WiiU is actually fighting ghosts right now. We believe the Ps4 and 720 will wipe the floor with the WiiU (I believe it too) but in this state of mind we over look how good the WiiU is.
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