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Submitted by doctorstrange 484d ago | opinion piece

How Nintendo Fell From Grace and Why They’re Skipping E3

With Sony’s big E3 press conference finally dated, and the Xbox 720 set to be announced soon, the Daily Reaction crew of Seb and Dan take a look at the odd man out, Nintendo. Why isn’t PlayStation’s oldest enemy planning to have a big E3 event? Is there something wrong with the Wii U? Is all lost? Find out all this, and more, in today’s riveting DR. - PSLS (E3, Nintendo, PS4, Wii, Wii U)

doctorstrange  +   484d ago
Presentation is nin tenths of the law
Foolsjoker  +   484d ago
That's what Reggie says before leaving the house...
LOL_WUT  +   484d ago
Is that Reggie in the thumbnail? ;)
knifefight  +   483d ago
In the gaming world, yeah. Hype is nine tenths of success.
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Wedge19  +   484d ago
I would love for Ninty to just be a dev, and make games for PlayStation and Xbox. That could end up pretty sweet.
thaimasker  +   484d ago
or make the handhelds for sony with nintendo's brand name, while sony handles the console hardware. They would be unstoppable.
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Lifebanisher  +   483d ago
sony and nintendo combined? mario x little big planet game, psasbr x ssbb game, monster hunter x uncharted combined. the world will explode lol...
these idea's are dangerous!

Short ideas...

mario x little big planet - you can now build stages in mario and then sackboy can use the mushroom LOL

psasbr and ssbb - fighting mechanics, characters mixed..

monster hunter x uncharted - climb mountains, use gun's, use monster hunter weapons, kill dinosaurs, pvp, gun's vs blades the more armor you have the more unnefective the gun is

sadly this won't happen cause companies have their own pride...

for some they'll say good and it should stay that way..

but we would not know what will come out of it if both companies don't try it..
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thaimasker  +   483d ago
Lol @ Monster Hunter X unchared...
Although that could happen without nintendo's say since capcom owns it.
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AKR  +   483d ago
If Sony loses anymore money with the PS4, it might be THEM who ends up becoming "Just a dev."

Why do you and so many others want Nintendo to come out of the console race? They've been in it from since they restarted it in the 80s. They've shaped the way we play games today. Commonplace features, started with Nintendo. Their the owners of the two most profitable systems of the 7th-gen, and the best-selling franchises in the entire gaming industry. They're the richest gaming company, altogether - Even more richer than Sony and Microsoft's gaming divisions.

What, you only want Nintendo to drop out just so you could play Mario or Zelda on a PS4 or NextXBOX? That's kinda low, my friend.
Moonman  +   484d ago
Nintendo is #1 every week in sales. They sure fell from grace....not!
lilbroRx  +   483d ago
What do you expect from a site called playstationlifestyle.net? Facts, rationality, and unbiased analysis? Not in this article.
Moonman  +   483d ago
I can't wait for the "competition" to release. We'll see how that works out. #KARMA

The entire first 6 months of 3DS all we heard about was how Vita was going to do this and that. Now Vita is struggling to gain traction while 3DS is kicking ass.
MaxXAttaxX  +   483d ago
They're referring to Wii U.
Nintendo has always been best with handhelds without a doubt. That's why the 3DS is such a great success.

But they've never been the best with home consoles, since none of them have ever reached PlayStation home consoles sales (with the exception of the Wii which had the right novelty at the right time and marketed to the right people).
Moonman  +   483d ago
But as of TODAY, Wii U has no competition right now. It is indeed winning the new generation until those said consoles are released. Just as the 3DS was even with it's initial 6 months. I understand fully what this article is talknig about!

But Nintendo hasn't fell from anything until it has shown all it's cards and 5 years from now hasn't made a profit off of it's consoles and games. Which won't freakin' happen no matter who prays about it.
Steelmanner  +   483d ago
I agree with some of what you are saying, but I think we can all agree that WiiU sales are going to sky-rocket once a 1st party game is announced, and released. Disagree if your not excited for the next Smash Bros, Legend of Zelda,and (Hopefully) a new Starfox
MaxXAttaxX  +   483d ago
@Moonman

Winning without competition? You could succeed maybe, but not win without competition.
I think the Wii U's competition is actually the 360 and PS3. Which would explain better why it is struggling. If it was a system that offered something comparable to the upcoming PS4 and Xbox then it would be doing better since, you know, no competition means it can hog the sales.
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thaimasker  +   484d ago
lol @ the title tho. First of all they aren't skipping E3..and neither have they fallen from their grace...The Wii U is just having a rough start just like the 3DS did and is now completly owning the hardware sales...especially handheld.....Reading the article and some comments is just comical and sad at the same time tbh

Imagine if the Wii U becomes sucessful...How many of these people will look so stupid...Just like with the 3DS And PS3. and articles like this would become a reference for comedy to show how things have changed.
Riderz1337  +   484d ago
They're skipping E3 because they don't want to be overshadowed by the PS4/Xbox 720. Can't really blame them.
Sgt_Slaughter  +   483d ago
Why do people still think that Nintendo is skipping E3 all together?

They are not doing a presentation on the main stage, but instead doing Nintendo Direct-style conferences throughout the week.

They will still have the usual demo stations for media personnel and fans attending.
lilbroRx  +   483d ago
They aren't skipping e3. How is it that this lie is still permeating?
Tzunoy  +   484d ago
I still respect what Nintendo done for gaming in all of his history. Big love for Snes, nr.1 console in my heart. Can't say i feel the same when i play current gen games back then it was that magic that today is lost.
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Crazay  +   484d ago
Because they have nothing exciting enough to show at the biggest gaming event of the year. Sony will be full of exciting news we don;t have yet, MS will be full of exciting news we don't know yet and there's going to be a crapload of 3rd party devs showcasing their latest and greatest software on hardware that's more than capable of showing it off.

They were such a big part of my childhood and have done so much for the industry. Without them, we may not be having this conversation right now. It's actually a shame that we're talking about them in this fashion.

They seem destined to fade off as a hardware company sooner than later. It's a shame really.
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Crazay  +   484d ago
This is obviously the fanboy post where everyone who posts anything in here gets "disagree" posts by people who have no idea what they disagree. If you disagree, explain why. this is, afterall, a discussion board. Man up buttercup
OwlEyes  +   483d ago
Nintendo still have stuff to show.
They'll just be showing them at Nintendo Direct without all the boring pie charts we normally have to sit through.

Look at last year, did the fact they didn't show a console redesign on stage mean they weren't making one? No, the 3DS XL appeared in a Direct 2 weeks later.
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AnimeAvenger  +   484d ago
They didn't fall at all. Every gamer has a console that appeals to them. Nintendo is still selling and the line-up of games coming for Wii U and 3DS is amazing.
deafdani  +   484d ago
NINTENDO IS NOT SKIPPING E3.

Downvoted the site because I hate self-called gaming "journalists" that only propagate false information and lies.
Foolsjoker  +   483d ago
Obviously you have zero clue what you are talking about, so here is a link to IGN saying the same thing.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

Think before you speak.
deafdani  +   483d ago
Skipping the press conference does NOT equate to skipping E3 altogether, which is what was implied in the headline. I've seen A LOT of people confused here in N4G, thinking that Nintendo won't be there at all, and that's thanks to idiotic headlines like this one that are absolutely misleading.

You think before you speak, because I'm pretty well aware of what's going on here. Nintendo not doing the major press that they usually do every year, instead choosing to focus the communication in various different events directed to different segments (investors, gamers, journalists), is not the same as skipping E3.
Blackcanary  +   483d ago
Read the article before you start to speak. And leave a comment.
deafdani  +   483d ago
I'm not going to read the article because of the headline alone. It's misleading, it's sensationalist, it's hit-seeking, and it hurts the game industry because of misinformation.

The article itself may be well written, may raise valid points, but I can't support bad journalism, and doing these kind of headlines that are absolutely misleading is a practice I can't and won't support. Because of this, I won't click on the actual article, until they change the headline to an accurate one.

Watch my reply to Foolsjoker above to understand better my point.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   483d ago
All "Well Said"'s for your comments.

I have encountered the same kind of people telling me I didn't know what I was talking about- even though it's clear that they don't know.

It's OK I don't expect them too, esp. if they love another Plat.
But
one time I even dumped a bunch of IGN text that clearly stated that the Nintendo would be a E3 holding smaller press events- and I still got disagrees.

Then later I was told that I was in LaLa Land.
smh
(Now I guess I'm a know-it-all?)

Thanks for fighting THE good-
-well, A good fight!
chadboban  +   484d ago
Wish people would stop using the term "skipping" E3. They're still gonna be there and they'll still be making announcements just as always. They just won't be having a live stage press conference. They'll be making their public announcements through Nintendo Direct or something of a similar format from what I understand. Using the term "skipping" E3 would indicate that they'll have no pressence there at all and that is downright misleading to anyone who reads that headline.

That being said I will miss their live stage shows because despite how good or bad they may have been, at least they were memorable. Once they make a lot of great announcements, I won't mind as much. I'll wait and see what they show at E3 to say whether they've "fallen from grace". Unlke a lot of people here, I ain't gonna count my chickens before they hatch.
diepdiep  +   484d ago
Typical journalism. Picking facts and distorting them to attract hits.
chadboban  +   483d ago
Wish people would stop using the term "skipping" E3. They're still gonna be there and they'll still be making announcements just as always. They just won't be having a jigted stage press conference. They'll be making their public announcements through Nintendo Direct or something of a similar format from what I understand. Using the term "skipping" E3 would indicate that they'll have no pressance there at all and that is downright misleading to anyone who reads that headline.

That being said, I will miss their stage shows because despite how good or bad they may have been, at least they were memorable. Once they make a lot of great announcements, I won't mind as much. I'll wait and see what they show at E3 to say whether they've "fallen from grace". Unlike a lot of people here, I ain't gonna count my chickens before they hatch.
chadboban  +   483d ago
Stupid phone making me double post!
Blackcanary  +   483d ago
Question how long did it take for Sega to stop producing the Dreamcast before they became just game dev focused?

Imo opinion if Nintendo don't bring out a console that can compete with the PS4 and the Xbox Fusion i can see them going the of Sega and just developing and becoming a third party studio for next gen Consoles but still there Handheld consoles since that's where there making there most money. Also if there still racking in money from the Wii they really should bring out a true next gen console that can compete with the PS4 and the XBOX Fusion.
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Blackcanary  +   483d ago
I swear some of you lot can't be ass to click on the link and read the article. For the people that wanna know what it says but can't be assed to click the link here you go.

With Sony’s big E3 press conference finally dated, and the Xbox 720 set to be announced soon, the Daily Reaction crew of Seb and Dan take a look at the odd man out, Nintendo. Why isn’t PlayStation’s oldest enemy planning to have a big E3 event? Is there something wrong with the Wii U? Is all lost? Find out all this, and more, in today’s riveting DR.

Seb: With Sony and Microsoft battling it out at every juncture, it’s only natural that most of our focus is spent on watching the two titans clash. But it’s also worth looking at Nintendo, the oldest of the surviving hardware manufacturers and the biggest console seller of the PSWii60 gen.

Last time we talked about the Wii U (Nintendo’s next gen-ish non-portable-tablet thingy), was two months before it came out. When discussing whether it would be a big hit, I said “This is not a mass market product. The Just Dance crowd already have their Wiis, and if they upgrade they’ll get a Kinect. The average CoD/Batman/Mass Effect gamer won’t be interested in ports or an incremental graphics improvement, and the younger kids will ask their parents for a iPad Mini this Christmas.”

Fast forward to now and the Wii U has been out for almost half a year. It has not been a mass market product. So far, the Wii U has been an epic disappointment for gamers, Nintendo and their investors. It has seen barely any titles and, as usual, 3rd party support has almost completely dried up already (it won’t even get Madden), meaning that it has joined the Wii in collecting dust in the corner.

The console gaming market is split into several segments – completely casual gamers, mainstream AAA core gamers, complete core gamers and Nintendo gamers. Completely casual gamers don’t know that the Wii U exists, or if they’ve heard of it they think it’s a peripheral due to its terrible name (that has now led to Nintendo sending pleading messages to Wii owners saying “it’s not just an upgrade”). Mainstream AAA core gamers can’t get most games on Wii U, so they’ll skip it. Same goes for complete core gamers. All that leaves is normal Nintendo gamers, but most of them were abused during the Wii generation, and they don’t even have that many games to look forward to this time around.

But wait! There’s E3, right? Nintendo can come on and play some Wii U Music until everyone loves them again! Sadly, they’re skipping the main E3 conference entirely, instead going with a few behind-the-scenes events with the press.

This is a terrible sign, with the company basically already conceding defeat and allowing the eyes of the world turn to Sony and Microsoft. With the PS4 and 720 taking center stage, the Wii U would never have been able to win when it comes to attention or hype, but they still would have received some coverage, and their show would still have been viewed by millions.

Instead, even less people are going to hear, or be excited about, the Wii U. It is going to continue to fail, with its best chance at remote success being some strong Nintendo IPs – but, at most, that’ll get them to Gamecube-level sales.
Blackcanary  +   483d ago
here's the second half.

Dan: Yeah, the fact that Nintendo are not having a major E3 presser really does speak a bit about their current state. With Microsoft set to try and push the PS4 out of the public’s mindshare, and Sony looking to keep it, Nintendo, and its underperforming Wii U, are in a bad position. This is not to say that they are going to pull a SEGA any time soon, but given where they were just a few years ago, it really makes you wonder how much they understand the market they once dominated.

Skipping the big press event at E3 means that they are not only missing out on having an opportunity to speak to fans, and gaining international coverage that reaches non-gamers, but they are also missing out on instilling confidence in the future of the brand. The importance of having a major press event at the Electronics Entertainment Expo can arguably be bigger than having a presence on the floor itself, as the press conference is something easily televised, and it allows Nintendo to speak directly about their products. Since they are opting to not go down that road, even though they do have the much smaller Nintendo Direct, it must mean that they’re under the impression that they will lose more face than they will gain, or that it just isn’t worth the cost.

Simply by avoiding to have the conference, Nintendo will be able to save a bit of cash and use it in places they would be more likely to successfully compete. They have stated that “…we will launch a succession of Wii U titles and we will promote these extensively until the end of the year. Marketing activity will include TV, print, online and PR as well as comprehensive experiential and social media campaigns.” But, this marketing push is slated to begin in July, just a month after their competitors will be pushing their next-gen entries in full force. This feels like Nintendo is trying to cut corners because they don’t have anything to show, which means that they will only to be overshadowed by their much more powerful adversaries.

Nintendo is in one of two camps at the moment – either they have nothing to show of much consequence for the next year, or they do have something up their sleeve, but do not have enough confidence to show it. Sadly, whichever is true, they really have pinned themselves into a corner and are in a bad way.

What do you think of Nintendo’s current position in the market? Have you bought a Wii U? Is Nintendo not having a conference at E3 a sign of things to come? Let us know in the comments below, shoot us an email at DailyReaction@PlayStationLifeS tyle.net, or use our friend-codes at Seb and Dan.
AKR  +   483d ago
Nintendo not having a conference at E3 - Is not the end of the world. They know how much heat is going to be at this year's E3. So, instead of trying to fight for the spotlight, they'll be releasing the SAME NEWS WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AT E3, in the form of Nintendo Directs - which have proved to be really successful. E3, will be a place for their investors and the press. On the games side, all the games they announce will be in PLAYABLE FORM. Games like the New 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Zelda Wind Waker HD, Smash 4 (?), Pikmin 3, and The Wonderful 101, just to name a few.

. . . People need to stop jumping to such drastic conclusions, before they actually research
daclynk  +   483d ago
its funny how these people always want to play NINTENDO games on the PlayStation and Xbox but not anyone wants to PlayStation and Xbox games on a Nintendo console. If you want Nintendo game buy a Nintendo console. NINTENDO is not going anywhere. LOL.

Edit; Thanks Moonman.
Also funny someone say they don't like NINTENDO Games.Im sorry for them cos all they know he Mario.NINTENDO Games cut across all Genres. That is why they move systems with their games.

Can someone say that about the other systems.NO because they depend on 3rd support.They cant sell without them.
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Moonman  +   483d ago
Exactly. Bubble!
THEMIGHTYDOOVDE  +   483d ago
Fall from grace???

Nintendo won the 7th gen, have the biggest selling gaming device in DS, are winning the handheld race with 3DS AND the only one of the big 3 turning profit.

And im told to believe that just because Wii U has had a similar start to Xbox 360 and PS3, Nintendo are running scared!

If Nintendo have falling from grace then what does that say for MS and especially Sony?

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