Submitted by Sandmano 937d ago | opinion piece

5 Reasons Why PS4 And XBOX Next Will Initially Suck

It's all well and good wanting, wishing perhaps for the next Xbox and a new Playstation console, but the reality is the desirability is often met with a number of pitfalls which present themselves to those who immediately rush out and buy them. In many ways, and regardless of how powerful, or feature laden the next gen consoles are, past experience should make consumers a little bit cautious. Here's why. (PS4, Xbox One)

Sandmano  +   937d ago
I think I have finally done it... I found an article that will unite both PlayStation and Xbox fanboys!
MariaHelFutura  +   937d ago
Yeah, we'll see about that. Lol.
-Alpha  +   937d ago
"PS4 will suck less"
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MariaHelFutura  +   937d ago
iGAM3R-VIII  +   937d ago
LOL I shall find one that unites, Playstation, Xbox, Wii U/Wii, and PC all in one, and they are the mobile gaming fanboys :P
MikeMyers  +   936d ago
It's usually the case with any new system. Limited software, first run titles that usually don't take full advantage of the hardware yet. Gimmicks trying to support new controllers. Online issues. Hardware issues, Prices for hardware are at their highest.

Some of those reasons are why I haven't bought a Wii U yet. I'm in no hurry to buy any of the new systems. I have so many games to play now as it is. I'd rather have other people be the guinea pigs and beta test the systems. They can go through all the headaches getting the games to run well and the system to run well. Plus the delays for new software. All while paying a high price for it.
ApolloTheBoss  +   937d ago
No chance.
LOGICWINS  +   936d ago
I actually agree. The launch titles this gen won't suck like last gen. Shadow Fall and Second Sun ALONE make the PS4 a viable purchase at launch. Still, buying the first batch of consoles is risky since they tend to be the ones with reliability issues.
kayoss  +   936d ago
None of the things he mentioned are facts! "High hardware prices", where and when did ms and Sony tell him the prices of the next gen consoles?
The_Troll_Whisperer  +   936d ago
Better said is ''..that will unite both PlayStation and Xbox GAMERS!''.

I have spoken
GalacticEmpire  +   937d ago
Number 5 "Potential hardware issues"

I think everyone will have this in the back of their minds when deciding whether or not to purchase a new console on launch day. All we can go on is track record, we just have to be brave (or stupid :P)
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NegativeCreepWA  +   936d ago
That's why I get a warranty with every console I buy, learned my lesson with the PS2 and its disc read errors.

Unfortunately, none of my current consoles have one since Game Crazy went out of business.
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Walker  +   937d ago
Next Xbox maybe but PS4, HELL NO !
Sandmano  +   937d ago
Ok never mind my first comment...
MariaHelFutura  +   937d ago
I told you so.
iGAM3R-VIII  +   937d ago
lmao that was quick
Jaqen_Hghar  +   936d ago
since when can a walker talk? All your posts should be "*chewing noises*" and/or "*moans*"
MonkeyNinja  +   937d ago
Trying to be as objective as possible here, but I don't think any of these things are going to apply to PS4, at least based on history:

1. Sony has already stated that they learned from their mistakes with PS3 pricing:

2. Obviously there's no list yet of games being made besides the few that have been revealed, but I think we can all agree that Sony's whole "thing" with PS4 is "games". Lots of games. I don't see Sony pushing PS4 so hard with games, then not delivering. It would be suicide. Plus, with how friendly Sony is with indies, I think this should be the least of anyone's concerns with PS4.

3. PS4 is easy to develop for, according to many developers. Games never take 100% advantage of the hardware at launch, but there's no reason why a launch game being made for a PC-like system can't deliver quality games on launch from third-party devs.

4. This isn't even worth covering, but I can't say he's wrong.

5. PS3 had hardware issues, mostly because the video card got too hot if I understand correctly. But PS4 has a small APU that runs on little power, I doubt overheating is going to be an issue. Although that 8GB of GDDR3 RAM could put out quite a bit of heat later on, when devs start utilizing it.

These are just my thoughts, not trying to upset other gamers/fanboys, I just don't agree with any points the article makes (besides maybe #4).
jeffgoldwin  +   936d ago

That's not even remotely objective in any possible way. In typical fanboy fashion, you picked and choose only subjective opinions to support your console of choice.

It's why in your narrow brainwashed mind, you couldn't even fathom even 1 negative for the ps4.

I like a lot of things about the ps4 (even though some things still aren't finalized), but I'm not about to get down on a bended knee and propose to the machine.
Jaqen_Hghar  +   936d ago
and can a user offer any counters to his points?
MonkeyNinja  +   936d ago
I do prefer Sony, but I have good reason. And as I clearly stated, that was just my opinion. But can you give me a little feedback instead of just calling me a fanboy?
Yetter  +   936d ago
Just a quick retort as it is not as cut and dry as you make it seem. And it really all comes down to Sony's financial woes

1. They may have learned their mistake but they have also had problems turning profits for this generation. If they want to make the most powerful console, how much of a loss are they willing to take per sale.

2. Yes, Sony does want to seem to want to put their focus on quality games and this is great. I'm concerned that their strength lies in their first party studios which means Sony has to put up the capital for the game development process. Could be an issue if they don't have the capital to continue putting out quality titles.

3. Easy to develop for? This may be true. Where they may run into problems is MSFT has a big fat wallet full of windows cash and if they want to entice AAA 3rd party to bring their games to the xbox (even if it is just a timed exclusive) its gonna be tough on Sony.

5. There really is no way to predict this one way or another. I have faith that both companies are capable of producing quality hardware that will last for years to come but sometimes poor decisions to save a few bucks are made and they lead to disasters. I hope MS has learned their lesson. It costs alot more money to provide support to a faulty console than to just have a solid, stable design to begin with.
MonkeyNinja  +   936d ago
Those are good points. I'm pretty sure that it's at least going to be fairly interesting next gen, with Microsoft and Sony seemingly heading in different directions.
revben  +   936d ago
pertaining to #2. It is ironic that everyone is saying that the PS4 architecture is so similar to a pc. However, the rumored Next Box will be closer to a "gaming pc" than the PS4. As all current build of "gaming pc" has dedicated CPU/GPU memory. There are both advantages and disadvantages to both type of memory allocation.
jeffgoldwin  +   936d ago

Just have someone re-read my response 3-4 times then maybe you can understand, maybe...

"I do prefer Sony, but I have good reason" You have your reasons, not "good reasons". There are obviously pros and cons in every system.

"And as I clearly stated, that was just my opinion" This is a lie since you can scroll up and see this simple isn't true. You never mention anything as being your opinion, but instead claim to be objective and then we see the brainwashing take over with all the opinions presented as "objective facts".

You sir are the pinnacle of fanboyism, by presenting no facts, and instead, all opinions and heresay. Don't get me wrong, this goes both ways in that ms fanboys and Nintendo fanboys will do the same. The ignorance just gets old after a while.
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hellvaguy  +   936d ago

You called out a zealot fanboy all too well. However, hope is lost on this one. He is so far gone, he himself doesn't even realize it.

A lost cause do to disillusion and denial.
Hicken  +   936d ago
"Trying to be as objective as possible here,"
is how he starts his comment off. And then he proceeds to put very little personal opinion into his rebuttal of each comment.

When he DOES bring up his opinion is when you accuse him of being subjective. He admits his preference, but that doesn't mean he can't be objective. Your response to him was simply because he made a sensible argument for why, historically speaking, the majority of the points in the article may not apply to the PS4.

Nothing stated as fact, except those things that ARE FACTS. Like developers being pleased with the PS4's hardware, or how said hardware shouldn't suffer even the acceptable failure rate of the PS3. Or how Sony has said the PS4 won't have the high pricing issue of the PS3.

... seriously, what are you even disagreeing with?
Rageanitus  +   937d ago
In All truth ALL consoles suck! because there not many games out on initial launch. The usually start maturing at the 3 year mark where you have a ton of games.

The ps3 offered blu-ray which was great though.
hellvaguy  +   936d ago
Why, there were no Blu-ray movies worth getting until several years later when Blu-ray final won the format wars.

Now it's obviously the way to go, but idk a fair amount of people lose their ps3 to Blu-ray player repairs, so I feel it's best to have a dedicated/separate player for movies. Although I cant argue with Blu-ray being the future for gaming format due to the high capacity.
Trago1337  +   936d ago
Thought this was gonna be a troll article, but these are legit points.

I just hope both of those consoles don't go through the same growing pains that the Wii U is going through now.
Jek_Porkins  +   936d ago
Actually it's not a bad article, but if some of these issues come up it doesn't mean the consoles suck. I don't think there are any absolutes when it comes to a console launch. I think it'll take some time to get some software going, maybe all the features promised might not be available at launch, but these consoles could still be pretty bad ass.

I guess it all depends on what people are expecting, I love the Wii U, and that launched without key features and has very few games right now, doesn't diminish what I love about it, plus I got a free game (Tank Tank Tank), which was nice of Nintendo to hand out today to all Wii U owners.
Boozehound  +   936d ago
This article is from April of last year...
worldwidegaming  +   936d ago
First comes the shortages. Then the overpriced ebay resellers and then the lack of games.
(will they have more games than the wii u on day one?)
First day buyers are nothing more than beta testers. (my self included.)
Plenty of ps3 and 360 owners purchased AFTER the price went down and/or games picked up.
Just like the wii u, there will need to be patchs added after it hits the market and people getting banned by mistake and systems bricked.
I Wanna sit back and watch the fireworks!
NegativeCreepWA  +   936d ago
Being an early adopter is always risky, and games are never a real representation of what a console can do in the first two years.
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Theo1130  +   936d ago
I liked graw...
josephayal  +   936d ago
I have extremely low expectations for the next console generation, I am BEYOND tired of dark military shooters
GABRIEL1030  +   936d ago

You can try WiiU to play Mario.
hivycox  +   936d ago
go to Nintendo! They make a variety of games. Everyone is hyped with no apparent reason for these next gen consoles but I don't seem to share this feeling. I see two fat consoles with lots of shooters coming and a nex gen console from Nintendo with so much more games available!

btw: this is also the reason I shifted sides to Big N!
Neo-Axl  +   936d ago
"5 Reasons Why PS4 And XBOX Next Will Initially Suck"

I think somebody may not be able to afford either of them! or we're dealing with somebody who hates consoles.. period.
Yetter  +   936d ago
New consoles are generally a whole lot of hype followed by disappointment. All of the points this article made are totally legit.
Neo-Axl  +   936d ago
Yeah.. sure. ;)
annus  +   936d ago
Someone hasn't had a console at launch

You remember the whole 'pS3 hAz no GamEz"? There was a reason for that, the PS3 had no games. Seriously, go look up what it came with. If you didn't like Resistance or a slightly upgraded version of the PS2 titles, there really wasn't much unless you liked staring at some shiny mud in Motorstorm.

Double that up with the fact that PSN was utter crap, with no friend invites to pretty much all games, and the fact that there was no in-game XMB, and the fact that it was almost impossible to find someone with a headset, PS3 really did initially suck at launch.

Luckily for me I loved the hell out of Resistance and finished it a good 8 times, but there was nothing else to do and I mainly continued playing through new PS2 titles.
MrBuffalo  +   936d ago
This gen hasn't been too bad reliability wise for those that are old enough to have been around for previous gens. SNES, Genesis/Megadrive pretty solid. PS1 was awful initially and I had an early imported machine that broke and I ended up setting aside for a while until they became easy to repair. N64 bullet proof. Dreamcast was great for me but I did kill one of my games by stopping the disc whilst it was spinning. Playstation 2 again failed big time initially. Xbox no probs for me, game cube i replaced quickly because the graphics started glitching during a game of waverace bluestorm. This Gen. Imported jap ps3 ran fine for 4 years then yold. Sold it for parts on ebay whilst restoring what i could off the hdd on a new machine. Wonderful ever since. 360. First gen platinum machine lived till last year and was then replaced by MS rather painlessly and thats still running. My point is this, MS has been bad for some people this but Sony hardly has a sterling track record either for those old enough to remember. Sega and Nintendo on the other hand have been pretty solid.
KillrateOmega  +   936d ago
Has this guy even seen the launch titles for the PS4?
Yetter  +   936d ago
Infamous, Killzone and Clack???

Yeah....real exciting.
GABRIEL1030  +   936d ago
Killzone, Destiny, Infamous, Final Fantasy, Deep Down, Thief, Battlefield 4, Watch Dogs, Driveclub, The witcher, COD, MGS V, Driveclub.
hivycox  +   936d ago

still not exciting. 4 of these games are shooters, 3 of them are sequals and you mentioned Driveclub two times!

PS4'S launch doesn'T look so exciting!
GABRIEL1030  +   936d ago
The basis of the life is the evolution, in the beginning the change harm a lot but the next step is always exciting, the human nature is always go beyond.

PS4 first day for me !
spoonard  +   936d ago
5 Reasons This Article Sucks

1.) It's dumb
2.) It's stupid
3.) It's idiotic
4.) It's moronic
5.) I like steak fajitas.
Max-Zorin  +   936d ago
Neither console will suck. But their fans.......................... .........
MuhammadJA  +   936d ago
I actually agree with No. 1 & 5. These problems are possible.
ReubenPatrick  +   935d ago
“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
-Jake the Dog to Finn the Human

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