Wii U is like "a Dreamcast scenario revisited", claims analyst

Nintendo's problems with the Wii U are reminiscent of Sega's efforts with the Dreamcast, according to games analyst Peter Skerritt.

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sherimae24132053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

oh no...another one of this "dreamcast meme"
sometimes i do wonder if the dreamcast really is a dead/failure console...
because until now, its still has some publicity and always on the news lately

but this console has great games that cannot be played else where that some people still clamoring that one day be ported to their favored platforms
(shenmue and skies of arcadia to name a few) ^_^

again the wii u will be fine... what it needs is games and it will come its only 7 months.. my goodness but like the other systems before it (ps3, 3ds, and vita) it will have a very rough times ahead, from critics to fanboys to the bias media all of this must endure by wii u owners and nintendo fans alike ^_^
because as of now im also enduring it with my vita ^_^

MariaHelFutura2053d ago

The big difference is The Dreamcast had amazing software, The Wii U doesn't. Sega was having troubles previously, Nintendo wasn't. Plus, The Dreamcast was comparable to the the systems it was competing with, the Wii U isn't. Not the same at all really.

Neonridr2053d ago

I would disagree with you about the amazing software. While some of the games might be ports of existing titles, that doesn't mean that they aren't AAA software. I never played Arkham City before or ME3, but does that mean that just because they are late arriving to the console (because the console didn't exist at the time these games came out) that they aren't still great games?

Not to mention Nintendo has yet to put their AAA software into the library. Are you saying that once Mario, Mario Kart, Metroid, Zelda, Super Smash Brothers come along, that the system won't be more successful?

It's just way too premature to even consider this system another Dreamcast.

MariaHelFutura2053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

Arkham City and ME3 are nice, But they hold nothing against all the exclusive Dreamcast software. PowerStone, Skies Of Arcadia, Ecco, Shenmue, Phantasy Star, the first 2K sports games and so on. Those were some good times I tell you.

Baka-akaB2053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

"It's just way too premature to even consider this system another Dreamcast. "

No offense but the dreamcast analogy doesnt work precisely because it had amazing games at launch and through its life .

So far the Wii u has one of the weakest launch offering with the ps3 . None of its titles match any of the exclusive launch dreamcast titles , and it had better port at launch

camel_toad2053d ago

Wow I totally forgot about Skies of Arcadia. That game really was awesome. The airship was a part of my soul!

NiteX2053d ago

I still have it for GameCube. Really awesome jrpg.

mochachino2052d ago

People still talk about Dreamcast because it was a once Top Gaming company's last console and signalled their final failure from which they never recovered from.

Shnazzyone2052d ago (Edited 2052d ago )

What, you don't remember when nintendo added 4 different add on dodads to the gamecube splintering the systems game selection, then released the wii and it sold terribly compared to the gamecube then 2 years later released the wii U?

Also everyone remembers how dreamcast failed and was discontinued after 6 months of everyone on the internet comparing it to the 3D0? right?

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a_bro2053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

people will disagree with me, but i will say it. The Wii U shouldnt have been underpowered, it should of been a suited up next gen console, as powerful as the ps4 and the impending next-gen xbox.

the fact that 3rd party companies are writing it off is just a sad ordeal. I think that if they had done that, they would still have been in a good, or better position than where they are right now.

LoveOfTheGame2053d ago

But that's the thing with Nintendo, they never about competing with specs. Sure it would be nice for them to have an equally powerful machine but that's not what their system is. Nintendo is primarily 1st party games that never compete graphically, but are almost untouched in level of pure fun. As long as they make their games enjoyable to play they will be fine; unless your Crytek graphics != good game.

Minato-Namikaze2053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

Snes, N64, and GC were all pretty powerful machines for their time. It wasn't until the wii that ninty started going the underpowered route. Dont make it seem as nintendo has always had this philosophy.

The wii was an accidental lightening in the bottle for them and before that they were on a downward slope (even if they still made money). With the wii-u they are trying to this time purposely catch lightening in a bottle and its gonna hurt them.

LoveOfTheGame2053d ago

I'm not saying that this was always their philosophy, more just that who they are. Back in the day no one cared how powerful a system was, they just cared if it was fun to play games on. I've been gaming for about 20 yrs and I had just as much fun playing Mario Party 9 in college as I did playing the first 3 in elementary school. Nintendo has always had fun games rather than ones with good or "realistic" graphics and it has always seem to work for them.

Baka-akaB2052d ago

I still feel you are rewriting history .

People couldnt shut up about the marvel and power of the superfx chip for the snes , and how , save the neo geo , it's cartridge system was the closest thing to arcade .

ANd the first thing people were raving about with the n64 were its powerful tech demo for mario and final fantasy , as far back as the Project Reality prototype codename .

People werent shy about the GC's power compared to competitors as well .

The only downfall for those consoles were always the size of media storage . And only with the Wii did we see a pattern of people suddenly claiming power is irrelevant and using the ps2's success as their go to excuse .

CEOSteveBallmer2052d ago

@minato, I agree. Lightning doesn't hit the same place at the same time. They thought they could replicate the success with Wii but I don't think it will happen again. Why?? Because the casuals that propelled them to success is now playing games on Smartphones and Tablets. Why would they pay an expensive amount on a console that they know isn't the most powerful around and with games priced at $60 dollars yet there are games on iOS and Android that are free and gives them satisfaction

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a_bro2053d ago

but that's the thing, even if they are never about competing with specs, its coming to bite them in the butt. and on top of that, how can you compete with the other 2 when they have pretty much the same functionality that the wii u has.

i think their only option here is a price cut really, thats probably the only thing that can keep them alive until the first party games come out. maybe that will convice some 3rd party companies to make games on it, cause that will mean more consumers opting in for a wii u.

MariaHelFutura2053d ago

You don't deserve disagrees, you deserve a bubble. +1 Well said.

AKR2052d ago

PS1 - Best selling console of the 5th gen
PS2 - Best selling console of the 6th gen & Best-selling home console of all time
DS - Best selling handheld console of the 7th gen and best selling game system of all time.
Wii - Best selling console of the 7th gen and 2nd best selling home console of all time, as well as 3rd best selling console in all.

- You know what these systems represent? The weakest consoles of their respective generations. But guess what? They all creamed their competition in the sales department. No generation has yet to show that power = Victory. The same can be said or this 8th gen.

The Wii U is the weakest, but nor is it weak. If we were salivating over the visuals of games on the 360 PS3, imagine the Wii U with it's added power? Games like Trine 2, Pikmin 3, Zelda HD Tech Demo, Project 'X', Rayman Legends and Need for Speed Most Wanted U already show just a early fraction of what devs can do with the Wii U's power. Comparisons between the three systems WON'T be as big as Wii vs PS3 & 360.

The graphics road is coming to an end, my friend. We're moving from a generation of HD to a generation of more HD. Not a generation of SD to a generation of HD. Realize that, if you will.

To add ~ The PS4 + Vita , for example, does have similar capabilities to the Wii U and the Gamepad. BUT ~ How much does the Vita cost? Nearly $300 dollars. How much do you think the PS4 will cost? Somewhere around $450 to $500 seems likely, right? That's a whole lot of cash to fork out, don't you agree? Added power is nice, but at least the Wii U's price point is relatively reasonable.

In Conclusion: The system is nothing like the DreamCast. Yes, the DC had some great titles released for it in it's short lifetime, but then it died. The Wii U hasn't gotten any MUST-HAVE games yet, but look what's CONFIRMED to be on the horizon:

- Bayonetta 2
- Assasin's Creed 4: Black Flag
- Batman: Arkham Origins
- Deus EX: Human Revolution
- Pikmin 3
- The Wonderful 101
- Project CARS
- Project 'X'
- Super Smash Bros. 4
- Zelda Wind Waker HD
- New HD Zelda
- New HD Mario
- New HD Mario Kart
- Yarn Yoshi
- Watch_Dogs

. . . The Wii U is in it's infancy. Give it time. The PS3 and 360, didn't have any "MUST-HAVE" titles at the start either ~ NOW look at them? The 3DS launched and fell like a rock. NOW look at it? Even the Vita is starting to find it's voice.

- This isn't ANYTHING NEW people. All consoles go through these early days of pain. WHY must we act like this with EVERY new system that's launched? Are you that brainless? Are you that over-dramatic?

Grow up, shut up ~ Sit, wait and watch - Before screeching the same crap.

DragoonsScaleLegends2052d ago

Wow amazing comment. Completely true too.

mochachino2052d ago (Edited 2052d ago )

-Saturn was much weaker than PS1 and failed as a result. They only added 3d graphics after they realized the their 2D focus in hardware was a mistake.
-PS2, GC, and Xbox all had comparable power. Sure PS2 was slightly weaker but no one would argue that PS2 wasn't in the same league as GC and Xbox. Wii U is in the same league as 360/PS3, not PS4/Fusion (or whatever its called).
-I agree with Wii as the best selling console of the gen, problem is it appealed to the casual gamer, which we all know has fickle game tastes and predictably has moved onto mobile/tablet/facebook gaming, which I'm sure Nintendo is now painfully aware of.

Seriously though, why would a casual ever pay $50 a game when they can pay 99 cents. They get the same enjoyment from each.

The same casuals that bought and loved Wii think that Wii U is just a Wii with a different controller, or never heard of it. I know a lot of girls and kids with Wii, none of them really know what Wii U is. They're Too busy playing free/99 cent MP social games games on their phones with their friends.

I always said betting on casuals was a short term game but a long term loss. They're are more core console gamers than casual, PS3/PC/360 sales combined destroy Wii. Core play gen after gen, casuals don't.

Despite hating each other for playing on different "inferior" devices, we core do all love games.

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ZainabSaccal2053d ago

The Dreamcast was one of the best consoles ever, personally I thought it was better than the PlayStation 2.

badz1492053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

and with the amount of support the PS2 had, DC really had no chance and the PS2 shines in the games department thus why it's the most successful console ever made!

the main problem with the Wii U now is GAMES and although it's an undeniable fact that it can achieve more than the 360 and PS3 seeing as its more powerful than those 2 but the fact that it's competing with those 2 is the problem to begin with! Ninty needs to step up their games and release more exclusive games for the Wii U as people are not going to buy the Wii U for multiplats they can play on their existing 360 or PS3!

ape0072053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

they said the same thing about the 3DS and look what happened, wiiu need games + price cut and it will SOAR like crazy

and i loved the DreamCast btw, one of a kind console :)

MontyQ2053d ago

wiiU at $199 and games $30 tops that's where Nintendo should be and they would still make millions as there is no way the wiiU costs more then 100 bux to make as its like a 7 year old pc

Starbucks_Fan2053d ago

A $199 Wii U would put them in the red

badz1492053d ago (Edited 2053d ago )

I call BS! the hardware in the Wii U is ancient compared to latest pc tech and seeing as its just a bit more powerful than both the 360 and PS3, there's no way it cost THAT much! it's just that Nintendo is already selling the Wii U at a profit as they always did with their past products and selling it for less that it's now is not going to drag them into the red, the lack of software/sales is!

mydyingparadiselost2052d ago

Nintendo has already stated they make no money off of the console but from software and stated the wii u almost didn't happen because of how much it cost to make. And if their games are $30 shouldn't PS3 and Xbox games be even cheaper?

AJBACK2FRAG2052d ago

They're actually losing money on every Wii U sold Brainiac. That's why there hasn't been a far reaching price cut.

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