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Next Gen to Respawn Exclusive Deals, PS4 and Xbox 720 Industry Pains

The next generation is almost here, but with both the PS4 and the next Xbox thought to release within weeks of each other, every exclusive will count. The Daily Reaction duo of Seb and Dan discuss which console will receive more launch exclusives, why Microsoft is pursuing 3rd party exclusives and why that hurts everyone. - PSLS (Microsoft, Next-Gen, PS3, PS4, Respawn Entertainment, Sony, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

alexcosborn  +   475d ago
Things are gonna get ugly.
GameNameFame  +   475d ago
Exception between PS4 exclusive and Next box is
PS4 is permanent exclusives.

and Next box 3rd party exclusives will come to PS4 after a year.
GalacticEmpire  +   475d ago
There really is something unnervingly shady about third party exclusive deals. I always imagine a backroom with loads of goons playing poker where money changes hands and 'things get done'.
MikeMyers  +   475d ago
Like Virtua Fighter 5 and Final Fantasy XIII? The damage is already done after a year. Sony did this with Grand Theft Auto on the PS2. I think it's pretty safe to say that was a smart move. It also came out later on the Xbox.

I don't see why so many have issues when Microsoft does it other than they hate Microsoft and love Sony.
showtimefolks  +   475d ago
let's see E3 will be a lot of fun to watch, also ms should show few new games on may 21st to give a taste of whats to come at E3

i would be really surprised if EA let respwan go to MS, they have a contract and even if their partners program ends, they will still finish the games in development. Also EA went through legal trouble for respwan because Activision accused EA of stealing away their talent so it will be very hard to imagine EA saying go ahead

we are excited about a new IP we know next to nothing about, also i would much rather MS invest that money into small development teams and let them work on some new Ip's

sooner or later 3rd party exclusives end up on other consoles
GameNameFame  +   475d ago
@MikeMyers... I dont think they hate MS
They just dont blindly love MS like you do.

I can afford to wait a year for more patched balanced DLCs included version of Next box's 3rd party exclusive on PS4.
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MikeMyers  +   475d ago
I blindly love Microsoft? If you're going to make wild accusations please show me where that's what I do.

It does make good business sense to have timed exclusives. I never said i prefer it. Most game sales happen in the beginning. How well did Oblivion sell on the PS3 compared to the Xbox 360? How about Bioshock? How well did GTA sell on the PS2? Now look at how GTA sells on the PS3 and Xbox 360. That isn't blind love towards Microsoft, it's what we call reality.

I also imagine Battlefield sells better on the PS3 in comparison to how well Call of Duty does compared to the Xbox 360. Both are shooters but Call of Duty is heavily marketed on the Xbox 360 and they also got timed exclusive DLC. Is saying that mean I'm blindingly loving Microsoft? Just because you can't say two good words about Microsoft doesn't mean everyone else has to be like that. It's called being rational.
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DOMination-  +   475d ago
Nobody on this site had a problem with Ni No Kuni being a third party party exclusive. where were the articles then saying how bad it was for the industry?

I think more exclusives are better. For each console. This gen they had an identidy crisis, a few games aside they were pretty much the same. This time around id like to see them more defined.
Oh_Yeah  +   475d ago
@MikeMyers the difference is while Sony does get 3 party exclusives from time to time, they also have plenty of their own 1st party exclusives... Something Microsoft does not, that is their problem.
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MikeMyers  +   475d ago
"MikeMyers the difference is while Sony does get 3 party exclusives from time to time, they also have plenty of their own 1st party exclusives... Something Microsoft does not, that is their problem."

Fair enough but again why is it a problem when Microsoft gets 3rd party timed exclusive deals and not for Sony and Nintendo? Obviously Microsoft is trying to be more attractive in comparison by telling people this is the console you should get the game on. It's no different than Sony getting GTA on the PS2 or Virtua Fighter on the PS3. Resident Evil on the Gamecube as well. If 1st party games are more important to you then support the system that you like those games on. This isn't about 1st party exclusives.

I myself don't think any 3rd party developer should be favoring one system over the other. They should do away with exclusive deals and let the 1st party games sell the hardware. Unless those 3rd party titles were made solely for that unique hardware like Wii motion controls at the time. However there has always been 3rd party deals and there likely always will be. People cannot pick and choose what they think is more 'ethical' just because they like one company more than the other or one has a better 1st party library.
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shadow2797  +   474d ago
The only third party exclusives I don't like are ones that happen during already an established series. Like Splinter Cell Conviction or Resident Evil 4. Fans of the series can't play the game on hardware that lets them play the other games in the series.

If it's a new IP, it's less of a deal to me.
@GameNameFame
lol PS4 gets extra Destiny content day 1!!

But the game look kinda ok so far.
GameNameFame  +   474d ago
@MikeMyers my point still stands.
I just heard sales talk too many times and stereotype people.If i am wrong, my mistake.

As for sales, I dont care.

As I said, I can afford to wait 1 year for DLC included plus patched version of the game. Not to mention cheaper prob.

Also, I never said it wasnt a problem when Sony and Nintendo do this crap 3rd party exclusives.

@Shutupandtakemoney

I dont care for extra content unless its essential.
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Aceman18  +   475d ago
for me this is not a big deal i know what games i'll be getting for PS4. as for 720/whatever its called i won't be buying it as i won't pay to play online.

plus Respawn one game wouldn't be enough for me to shell out $400-500 for it, and im not going to pay full price for half a game.
JeffGUNZ  +   474d ago
Dude, buy whatever you want, but don't kid yourself. PSN+ was nothing more then Sony testing the waters of a paid subscription base to it's users. Their is nothing wrong with a paid subscription as long as the price justifies the content you receive. That being said, all those features we saw at the 02/20/2013 Sony reveal, Cloud based storage, Gaiki, sharing features, and all the other cool stuff they will show is going to cost us. Companies can't continue to provide more technological features and cool add-ons at no charge.
Aceman18  +   474d ago
@Jeff

i said "pay to play online" this i refuse to do period. yes i subscribe to PS+ but i can still play online for FREE, and besides PS+ is optional i don't need it to play online
zeal0us  +   475d ago
Doubt it, if anything it will be quite the opposite. MS gaining Respawn exclusive won't hurt Sony since Sony already got a portfolio of exclusives.

Gaining Respawn exclusive really won't do anything to MS market they're a billion dollar corporation. One single game can't mass enough damage to half their market.

3 party exclusives doesn't ruin it for anyone. It's one of the driving factors when some consumer buys a new consoles.
jutt  +   475d ago
"Respawn is developing a multi-platform product based on new video game IP and funded through its publishing deal with Electronic Arts"

source :- http://www.respawn.com/game...
MYSTERIO360  +   474d ago
it seems we may have a lot more timed exclusivity deals from MS
TrendyGamers  +   475d ago
DLC exclusivity is pretty much a given for Ghosts.
doctorstrange  +   475d ago
Yup
Exclusivity that doesn't actually take advantage of the single hardware just sucks. That counts for all platforms, mind, as they all do it (just MS usually more often).

I want my exclusives to make use of the console's particular specialties.
Utalkin2me  +   475d ago
That's why i have nor will buy any DLC from Activision published game, period.
Wedge19  +   475d ago
The fact the Ghosts is being featured at the 'Box' event on the 21st pretty much assures that exclusivity content will be prevalent next gen, stronger than ever.
JeffGUNZ  +   474d ago
and it also shows me that the nextbox will release no later then 11/05/2013.
Jek_Porkins  +   475d ago
So PlayStation Life Magazine takes issue if Microsoft has the money to buy third party exclusivity? That is shocking /s

They are also going on and on about more rumors from Kotaku of all places, not sure I'd buy into Microsoft having so many issues internally that they wont have any games to launch with.
DragonKnight  +   475d ago
The fact that you couldn't see that the article was pretty fair and well thought out before you made your comment shows where your mind was and that it wouldn't matter what they said. You apparently completely missed the point.
Jek_Porkins  +   475d ago
Actually I didn't miss the point, I read the entire thing. I would agree that from a standpoint of Respawn Entertainment they'd take a loss from a market, but the rest was speculation over rumors.

If it hadn't mattered, I wouldn't have bothered to click on the article in the first place.
DragonKnight  +   475d ago
The first part of your comment attempt to discredit the article based on the name of the site. This leads people to believe one, or all, of 3 things. First, you're a fanboy. Second, you didn't read the article. Third, you read the article and didn't get it. That's all on you.

The second part of the article merely reinforced the first part of your comment and what it means. They were clear to state that these are rumours coming from a site they don't exactly hold in the best regards. They only included the rumours for the sake of discussion, not because they believe the rumours or are endorsing negative Xbox 720 rumours. The article had no bias present in it and yet your comment reeks of the implication that it does based solely on the name of the site.
JeffGUNZ  +   474d ago
@ Jek_Porkins.

Actually, Respawn will not lose money in the market being exclusive to MS. The amount of money MS probably threw at them will more then likely cover that loss. Plus, MS has backed COD so much that a lot of non-hardcore gamers who don't know any better would think COD is only for the xbox, since MS backs their advertising. Respawn comes from IW, they know MS is a horse that is going to bring them places.
KwietStorm  +   475d ago
PlayStation Life Magazine?
hazardman  +   475d ago
I was thinking same thing it don't make sense. I mean they got the reveal date out and then said that Full launch lineup will be shown at E3.
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DragonKnight  +   475d ago
@jeffgoldwin: Yay, I have another fan. Seems that you have some reading problems though as I never said the author's opinion was fact (go ahead and read my comments and you won't find that at all) or that the rumours were legitimate (that's an oxymoron), and the "no bias" part is accurate. Try to find blatant Playstation fanboyism in the article and quote it, I'll wait.... none? Thought so.

And finally, I find it hilarious that you accuse me of being a fanboy despite your clear focus on me and your personal attack on me even though you got all of your facts wrong and I in no way made a positive or negative statement towards any platform.

Thanks for being a fan. Ciao.
Evil_Ryu  +   475d ago
Those guys at respawn entertainment are extremely talented they were the brains behind the first modern warfare before the franchise went down the toilet.
dalibor  +   475d ago
That is true and people should not forget that. But you have to remember this industry is always ever changing. People jump boat and sometimes just sometimes... developers do lose their charm that made them well liked and all. Lets see what Respawn does and hopefully things turn out for the better.
4lc4pon3  +   475d ago
If Ghosts is all Microsoft has up its sleeve I feel sorry for Xboxers. COD stopped being good after MW2 so I could care less about Ghosts
StreetsofRage  +   475d ago
Call of duty is number 1 in sales for the ps3. If this rumor is true and you think this won't make an impact than you are truly delusional.

Wasn't their some exclusive 60 minutes of gameplay for the ps4 for another game? Sony is doing the same thing but not as big as Microsoft.
The_Infected  +   475d ago
Yea 60 minutes extra gameplay for the PS3 and PS4 version of Watch Dogs.
LogicStomper  +   475d ago
"COD stopped being good after MW2 so I could care less about Ghosts"

"so I could care less about Ghosts"

"so I could care less"

Good ol' N4G.
dalibor  +   475d ago
What is so wrong about that comment? After the first Blops I have not bought another COD game. There is some truth to that statement for some while other people out there might in fact think the opposite and actually thought that MW3 is the best COD of all time. Goes both ways
leejohnson222  +   475d ago
i agree, i would prefer to see new ideas on next gen, i know sony are using current franchises on ps4, but i am sure naughty dog will have something new, sony santa monica, media molecule etc. So many sony owned studios with great talent. When you buy your next gen console its about games and for me i just prefer the wider choice in first party.That being said i will buy the console i want but dont feel the need to complain about what deals MS pay for, why should i care i wont own that machine.
dbjj12088  +   475d ago
I love exclusives! That's why I'll stay a Sony fan.
shivvy24  +   474d ago
yep ! lol i actually dont care if i have to wait a year with respawns game cause theres killzone infamous battlefield and many more to keep me happy
FrigidDARKNESS  +   475d ago
Well its already happened. rhe Next COD that will be revealed at xbox event may 21. It seems as if MS is strategically cornerin tje shooters marketwith Ea and Activision.
Ken22  +   475d ago
Again the whole EA and M$ thing is still a rumor.Until proven otherwise.
violents  +   474d ago
They can have em, COD sucks balls!

The only reason I play once in a while is to keep up with some friends that are COD fanatics, and even then I wait for a used copy to pop up for cheap. I refuse to give theses companies my money anymore for their copy and paste, broken, laggy games.
GABRIEL1030  +   475d ago
In the current industry, the consumer has a lot of options. For example, Maybe you cant get the new COD game, but you could buy the amazing Battlefield game or if you cant buy GTA V because you have a PC , then you could buy a great game like Watching Dogs.

If you cant buy Killzone Shadow Fall because you are planning to buy the next xbox, then maybe you could buy the next gen game called Titan or in my case; I like very much the Halo games, but I'm planning buy a PS4 and then I'll buy the next Bungie game: Destiny.

Some people like to play with Pokemon and Mario, then they buy a WiiU.

Every console have its own games and personality and this make that the gaming industry be amazing, because exist: the plurality, variety and free competition in player benefit .

I would be worried if the PS4 and the Next Xbox would have the same games, because this situation could be worst factor for an industry: a monopoly. For example Windows, the same OS since 30 years.
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jessupj  +   475d ago
Guess MS's bullshit will continue into next gen...

Hopefully people, seeing what happened this, are smarter this time around and won't fall for it.
leejohnson222  +   475d ago
i am not sure what timed deals achieve, i certainly dont go out crying and have to buy a different console due to a timed dlc deal. Just live with it, it didnt bother me this gen wont interest me next gen, guess its something for fanboys to argue over which system is best. Thing is with a fanboy there is no point in a conversation its not rational and can never be heard by either party.
CEOSteveBallmer  +   475d ago
I don't think another FPS will really help. Can developers do something more thoughtful than shooting? There are a lot of genre's out there. 3D platforming, beat em up, hack and slash. JRPG and western RPG, fighting, racing, adventure indiana jones style and my favorite Survival horror. The last genuine survival horror I can think of on consoles are deadspace 1and2. There are some on PC like amnesia but it still not enough compared to shooters. So respawn entertainment will of course make another FPS game like modern warfare.
supremacy  +   475d ago
Well i dont have an issue with the respawn deal, i mean if its true that MS is having trouble with some of their other ips at the moment then i dont see why they couldnt make such a move.

Sony still has from what i hear Final fantasy versus 12/FF15 coming out for the Playstation 4 exclusively from what rumors suggest. Besides this they also have the last guardian as well as some other games.

The respawn game to me is like bungie's new game, an unknown and yet un-established ip which has a 50/50 chance of success and failure. Same goes for any new ip, and as long the more bigger games remain multiplatform releases then things will be fine.

The fact that mays reveal will start where MS last e3 ended with a call of duty reel(to me atleast) isnt impressive and perhaps depending on what else is shown will leave for more to be desire.

But in all fairness Sony was in the same position MS is in today, they started with little and slowly began to build their worldwide studios with acquisition after acquisition. At this point from where i stand Sony still has the advantage, if they wanted to they could just as easily cross release some of their biggest exclusives to cover any loose ends. But, we'll just have to wait and see what happens later this month.
fsfsxii  +   475d ago
MS trying to secure an FPS, and this is why the industry will not go forward with MS being involved.
WickedLester  +   475d ago
To quote the late great Steve Jobs...

"The thing about Microsoft is....they have no taste."

I think that pretty much sums it up. I can already see this coming a mile away. MS will continue to allow the next Xbox to be the multiplatform machine. They'll continue to allow 3rd parties to do all the heavy lifting for them. They'll continue to throw money at 3rd parties for annoying DLC timed exclusives and what not while they themselves continue to focus on apps and all that other bullshit that's not relevant to actual gaming. What makes no sense to me is that with a system that's already considered a "FPS-centric" console, why on Earth would they pick THIS as one of their early exclusives? You'd think they would want to branch out a little more.
gazgriff2k12  +   474d ago
A man doesn't understand how this became a cod discussion, Ive been quite excited for some time for news on respawns first game but just like bungie there going all sci fi and going with some sort of exclusive deals now my interest has all but died for both titan and destiny. I personally dont care for sci fi FPS. Im also quite sure there not going to be cod and halo killers. As for exclusive or timed DLC i dont care and haven't cared for 7 years
Dee_Cazo  +   474d ago
It would cost Microsoft at least 600M to stop it coming to the PS4 (based on them having to cover Activision's lost sales).

Microsoft made around 720M on the last Call of Duty so they would easily make more than what they to make it exclusive, then partner that with console sales.

It would be a really good idea and might be worth opening the checkbook. You get the CoD gamers and they won't jump ship after they settled in.
JeffGUNZ  +   474d ago
That's an excellent point. I wonder how many people who have PS3 would jump to the next xbox if MS paid to get COD exclusive. Lets face it, COD is the most played game on either console, a lot of those PS3 users that play COD could be COD die hards who, when they see a new engine, a fresh look, could sway to MS camp. You're right, that is an investment that would be blockbuster and brilliant.
Dee_Cazo  +   474d ago
Yeah, I am not a Call of Duty fan, but I am a fan of good business strategies.

With it being shown at Xbox's event too, almost guarantees some sort of exclusivity, not sure if it will just be DLC or whatever, but if they steal it for a complete year...Sony just lost a chunk of console sales.
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airgangstarr  +   474d ago
xbox has cod an bungie is the biggest xbox game so all of there fanbase has been on xbox that wont change because ps4 has it also now, yea they will have a new audience but the sales will win out on xbox for sure.. and also the controller for ps isnt as good for shooters so trust when i say destiny will be a win for xbox.. i only wish the next gen let u play ps4 players against xbox on destiny an other games not exclusive.. i think both consoles will be lacking a great launch lineup yea you will have ur big games at launch but not alot to chose from
chuckyj1  +   474d ago
Seriously link a article comparing The NEXT XBOX with absolutely nothing to go on and compare it to Sony's system that has already held it's conference... Not to mention it's a SONY site...Of course they trash MS...

What's the point in posting this article? People need to wait until the 21st of May to write articles like that...

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