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Submitted by Sandmano 539d ago | article

Iwata: Wii U hardware far more capable than most think

Nintendo’s Wii U simply needs talented developers to realise its potential, Satoru Iwata proclaiming that there’s “a great deal of contradictory information” regarding the console’s internal architecture.

“As you stated, it is a fact that some software development companies assume that Wii U is not powerful enough,” Iwata’s discussed in his response to an investor.

“On the contrary, some developers say in interviews that Wii U has a different architecture from other consoles and that, when utilised in the right way, it can perform well.

“At the moment, there is a great deal of contradictory information. Nintendo is required to make more efforts to dispel such a misconception.”

Whilst defensive of the Wii U’s potential, Iwata shared his understanding that third-parties are keen to see their commitment to the console rewarded with successful sales.... (Nintendo, Satoru Iwata, Wii U)

MariaHelFutura  +   539d ago
Nintendo (IMO) should stop talking in general and get sh!t done. The last week or two it sounds like they're trying to convince us and themselves that the platform is worth while to own. Stop talking and start producing, the talking is just making it seem worse w/ no product to back it up.
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-Superman-  +   539d ago
Wii U will be nothing when Xbox 720 and PS4 are released.
When developers makes multiplatform game for PC, Xbox 720 and PS4, then it´s easy to do, but when they are asked to port this next gen game to Wii U, then they just can´t do this because Wii U has last gen(PS3,XBOX360) spec.

For example, you make game, you port this to PC, and then port to PS4 and Xbox 720, easy, but to Wii U? Nah, Wii U is too weak for that.
blitz0623  +   539d ago
"Wii U hardware far more capable than most think"
Sounds more like the Vita...
Skarlett   539d ago | Spam
chaos-lockheart  +   539d ago
Wii U just needs a price cut, it has some great games. Also great games that's not out yet. once Wii U becomes $199 it will start to sell. I know I will get one at that price.
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fairyblaster  +   539d ago
(maria)

Something tells me Nintendo is and has been more busy than me and you?

and you (superschman)

step away from the cryptonite.
PigPen  +   539d ago
I have to totally disagree with that opinion. My opinion is that PS4 hype will die down a little. If I am as smart as I think I am Playstation will launch a tank of a console. You know "George Forman" grill type hardware with a bigger price then Wii U. Sony can't play the race with exclusives with Nintendo from little money.
With PS3 sales, and the games that's coming make me think a lot will hold off before upgrading to PS4. That goes for Microsoft nextbox too. And to think they will be going head to head for sales with Wii U taking market share too is risky. Nintendo has seven months to get word out to consumers before PS4/Nextbox release. They will have about 5 million hardwares sold to date, and in time for black friday to release bundles. And with the games that's like "Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Deus Ex: HRDC, Rayman: Legends, Call Of Duty: Ghost, Watch Dogs and ..." and the Wii U have a price cut would be tough. Exclusive for PS3 alone will be hard for some to upgrade. Sony fanboys are saying whatever to hold a dark cloud over Nintendo to keep pride in their favorite console. Ignorance is a bliss and can lead to regret. I am no hater/troll and will be getting one of the next gen systems too, as I don't see the need to own both. This is not me cause if you like Sony/Microsoft or Nintendo just be happy and play your game without trying to put someone down for their choice. Most live on here then playing their console/computer. It's good to get the latest news but come on.
Blaze929  +   539d ago
Remember as kids we had this little thing called, "Show & Tell"?

Well...
MariaHelFutura  +   539d ago
Yep. It's not called "Tell and Show".
-Superman-  +   539d ago
Wii U will be same as Wii against PS3
rick1woller  +   539d ago
skarlett is just talking rubbish now
AKR  +   539d ago
@ -Superman-

~ If you TRULY believe the difference between that monumental, you need to sit down and think before you speak . . .
GameSpawn  +   539d ago
Nintendo needs to tread carefully. They are almost in the same state as Sega; at the moment not exactly, but getting there. Sega failed because it put out too many consoles in a row that ultimately did not sell. The Dreamcast was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

The 3DS and Nintendo's last minute save of it along with the stupidly lucky success of the Wii is the only thing keeping them in the game right now. We can all agree that the WiiU is not doing very well right now and Nintendo cannot save it like they did the 3DS by simply dropping the price; they're barely breaking even on the console with a few games being bought along side each one.

If the WiiU ultimately does fail when the PS4 and Xbox land Nintendo CANNOT afford another console failure or handheld failure. They need to remember the Wii was a stroke of luck; they are not guaranteed to pull off the same success.
Gamer Muzz  +   539d ago
I have to disagree with that initial statement.
Nintendo is nowhere near "same state as Sega" After dominating the 7th gen in sales and profits and completely owning the handheld market last gen as well as 86.8% of the handheld market today, there is no chance that Nintendo is going to fall off any time soon. Definitely not this gen even if the Wii U doesn't preform as well as they would like.

You need to make sure you define "Fail". the Wii U will be profitable in no time at all and when that happens, they will sell them at a profit and even without winning the gen in terms of installed base, they will earn a profit and continue to operate without problems.
The Gamecube for example, was the lowest selling console of the 6th gen. yet it turned a profit for Nintendo. Meanwhile, the xbox sold 2 million more units than the cube...and cost Microsoft $5 billion in the end.
"Fail" is a term we really have to be careful with.

Side note:
As for the dreamcast. You know it was a record braking console right? It broke every hardware and software launch record set up to it's time. Ultimately failing because of piracy and nothing else.
GameSpawn  +   539d ago
I never said they were in exactly the same state (only close) as Sega, but Sega's case proves that it doesn't take much.

Remember there are some parallels here between Nintendo and Sega.
1) Both are/were Game Console Makers and Game Publishers - First - Foremost - Only
2) Both due to their limited scope of products have run higher risk when they loose; they don't have other markets (like Sony and Microsoft) to fall back on
3) Both have had their share of questionable successes/failures with consoles (subjective on what you consider a failure - sales, profit, popularity, etc.)

I like how you bring up piracy as what killed the Dreamcast. Sega was already at risk with the Dreamcast because of how much R&D money they tanked in previous consoles (specifically the Saturn) and piracy obviously didn't help. The piracy kick started a series of events that led to loss of third party support and ultimate failure of the Dreamcast and Sega.

How 'bout them parallels... :)
Nintendo's WiiU is already having its bout with piracy...ahem...homebrew. It hasn't even been out a full year!
http://n4g.com/news/1243735...
(I felt it easier to link the N4G entry)

The whole reason I bring this up for discussion (I love discussion) is that Nintendo is giving us one sign of weakness after another. Possible piracy with the recent "homebrew hack", no reassurance on third party support (I mean a substantial lineup of WiiU games, 1st or 3rd party), and cancellation of their E3 press event!

I'm sorry, E3 is HUGE for the gaming community and to cancel your press event SCREAMS that Nintendo has some concerns/issues. You just don't cancel E3 or Tokyo Game Show (hopefully this doesn't happen) when you are part of the "BIG Three". Did they cancel because they have no games to show either from themselves or third parties? Did they cancel because they are having issues turning the WiiU situations above around? Only Nintendo knows why Nintendo cancelled.

Am I saying Nintendo will go "Sega" on us (hee hee - I went Wreck It Ralph with that)? No, but I do think Nintendo's concern should also be our concern, because we already lost Sega and saw how things turned out for them (really Sonic has lost all substance since going multiplatform).

If there is ANYTHING that history has taught us in general it is that "history tends to repeat itself." Humans love to repeat the same mistakes of their predecessors and all we can do to prevent that is to learn from those mistakes so that we are not doomed to repeat them.
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3-4-5  +   539d ago
They are getting it done....they made the mistake of not hiring more people and instead poached from different teams for Wii U & 3DS games....

Now it will be until Dec into 2014 before we get good Wii U games....

Nintendo will hold on....and in the end will be alright....they always are.

They do need to start thinking about their next system like now though.....so this never happens again.
fairyblaster  +   539d ago
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DA_SHREDDER  +   539d ago
They have already announced a bunch of games that are coming down the pipe line more than any other first party publisher. They are gonna be all about games this E3.
Ron_Danger  +   539d ago
Iwata: Wii U hardware far more capable than most think

He's talking hardware, not software.
MrChow666  +   539d ago
they are gonna be all about FAIL
Pyro2000x  +   539d ago
LOL but they won't be at E3 so most people will only care about the games coming to PS4 and Xbox 720 tbh.
Joegrine20  +   539d ago
Well there you go folks someone that doesn't read what nintendo actually said.
beafsteak  +   539d ago
LOL they actualy will be at E3. When will you fanboys get that through your thick skulls.
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yesmynameissumo  +   539d ago
That's great!

Now prove it.
LOL_WUT  +   539d ago
Yeah, less talk and more follow through ;)
Godmars290  +   539d ago
Well, pity there's little to nothing that shows it. Someone - like say the console's makers - didn't setup ahead of time some titles to show such.

Its almost as if it was released at a certain time for short term gains with no regards or consideration towards long term goals. To exploit on holiday season rather than the life of the system and the company.
MasterCornholio  +   539d ago
"“At the moment, there is a great deal of contradictory information. Nintendo is required to make more efforts to dispel such a misconception.”""

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

Come on Nintendo it isnt that difficult to produce a game with great visuals. Guerrilla Games managed to do it with Killzone Shadowfall so i dont see why you cant do the same. But instead Nintendo does this.

http://gamersxtreme.org/wp-...

Seriously Nintendo if the Wii U is under powered might as well come clean with your loyal fans instead of lying to them in this manner.

My recommendation is to try and stop convincing people that the Wii U is on the same level as the PS4 and the 720 and just concentrate on quality software.

"Other companies might launch a next-generation console with more power, but we don’t necessarily think that the difference between the Wii U and such console will be as drastic as what you felt it was between the Wii and the other consoles because there will be fewer and fewer differentiators in graphics."

http://www.ggsgamer.com/201...
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Joegrine20  +   539d ago
If the Wii U can output graphics like this.... http://www.abload.de/img/da... then i would love to buy a Wii U and that game is an early build still. although graphics is not a benefactor to me. This looks really good for an open world RPG. Now you guys should realize that developers like nintendo who knows how to use their technology, would use it excellent. See how sony did with the Ps3 (LAST OF US, Uncharted) and is gonna do the same with the PS4. Expect the same from nintendo do not underestimate them. You guys take them for granted to much.
Axonometri  +   539d ago
No more talk. Games.
Agent_hitman  +   539d ago
Is it true that Wii U's CPU only clocks @1.5Ghz tri core?. If that's true then I don't think it can do more.
Axonometri  +   539d ago
This has been rehashed but for you... The latest in cpu are far more efficient than those designs in the recent past. Does it make it cutting edge no but far more powerful than an old 1.5ghz.

Having said that, it still is Gap-Gen in tech and none of this matters when the head cheese at Nintendo put understaffed, inexperienced with modern process teams together and have been unable to produce a steady stream of games from 1st party. Let alone the fact that 3rd party is a huge factor in survival, and so far most 3rd party groups have jumped ship due to slow disappointing start.
lilbroRx  +   539d ago
Simple hertz and cores speak lttle of real world performance. Architecture and feature sets are the biggest factor in that. The Wii U uses energy efficient parts.

Core for core, the 1.2 Ghz Wii U CPU is stronger than the 1.6 Ghz PS4 CPU but the PS4 has more overall power do to it having over twice a many CPU cores. The PS4 will be powerful but won't be as astronomicaly more powerful as the RAW numbers suggest in real world performance.

Nintendo designed a console aimed at doing more with less power used. What the parts actually do is far more than the numbers suggest. The NFS Most Wanted Dev said this when they upgrade the PS3/360 versions of the game on the Wii U. Something that wouldn't even be possible if the claims by Nintendos haters who distorted the numbers were actually true.
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PygmelionHunter  +   539d ago
Time to bring Retro's big gun!

Err, that didn't sound right...
MilkMan  +   539d ago
Preaching to the choir Iwata. We all know this. We just need the games to prove it.
impet25  +   539d ago
They don't get it unfortunately call of duty is a measuring stick for third parties and if call of duty doesn't perform well (which it didn't) than other third party devs won't put there stuff there so that potential in that box won't be realized unless its from there first party devs, and mario and company aren't exactly graphical showcases.
MilkMan  +   539d ago
What do you mean about COD.
It sold well and it plays faster than any other console.
How did it fail?
gamerz  +   539d ago
At least when Sony made these type of claims they backed it up with calculations showing total number of GFlops compared to the other consoles.
impet25  +   539d ago
Why do you think crysis 3 and gta 4 got there plugs pulled third parties think there's no audience for it same thing happens to them every gen. I feel sorry for nintendo cause no matter what they do third parties always $hit on them.its unfortunate cause I actually like ninty. Btw cod may not have failed in some people eyes but trust me activision isn't really happy with wiiu cod performance sales wise.
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jagstar44  +   539d ago
ok nintendo, show us a game that looks as good as shadowfall or watchdogs.....
Firestorm  +   539d ago
I don't believe him, I still have terrible memories of him saying..."when you see the graphics, you will say wow" and we all know how that turned out with the original Wii.
lilbroRx  +   539d ago
When I saw Mario Galaxy 2 and Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, I did say WOW.

http://guide2games.org/wp-c...
http://www.igr.me/images/As...

http://files.g4tv.com/Image...
http://86bb71d19d3bcb79effc...
Firestorm  +   539d ago
I said "Wow, look how blurry that is"
LOL_WUT  +   539d ago
Ouch! Those screenshots didn't really do much to help out your argument @ lilbroRx ;)
CEOSteveBallmer  +   539d ago
Yes show us a game where it looks as good as killzone shadow fall, infamous 2 and Deep rising!!. then well talk
CEOSteveBallmer  +   539d ago
I mean deep down LOL!! XD its a movie I forgot
Dgander  +   539d ago
To be fair Killzone looks good but im sure its a crappy game just like the rest in the series. No wonder people are only focusing on how it looks....even Halo is a better fps than that nonsense.
Plagasx  +   539d ago
Ahh....Nintendo. I do feel bad for you.

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