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Are Nintendo's Most Hardcore Fans Hurting Nintendo?

Nobody likes a yes man, and lately it seems like some of Nintendo’s most hardcore fans are falling into that category. Nintendo, in my opinion has been making some pretty odd decisions. Not revolutionary (this is going to change the world decisions), but just plain odd. And, some of the hardcore fans continue to not only support these decisions, but see them as a positive.

Weak Third Party Support: “I don’t care, I only buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, I don’t need anything else”..

Dev Support Understaffed: “Nintendo games need to take their time to make classics”…

Archaic Online, No Achievements (Trophy), Basic Features: “Achievements are for college fratboys…I like to play alone.”

Games Locked On Console:” It’s to protect their investment.”

No E3 Conference…!:” I like Nintendo Directs…who needs E3, I don’t want another Usher concert”…

Look I like Nintendo games, but the cheerleading has to stop. As a Nintendo consumer, its baffling at some of the decisions Nintendo has been making for the WiiU. Nintendo will not improve unless fans are serious about improvements.

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LOL_WUT1184d ago

This article is very spot on and as mentioned in the last paragraph Nintendo fans need to be more vocal about the company's missteps.

Another thing that the article didn't touch upon is how Nintendo fans just can't accept any sort of criticism towards Nintendo, without being labeled a hater or a troll. ;) Just look at Shokio's newest video for proof.

"Nintendo will not improve unless fans are serious about them improving"

PopRocks3591184d ago

I would be able to take this comment more seriously if you weren't either bashing Nintendo in one article or going on and on about a price cut in another.

The people bashing Shokio in that video are extremists, blind loyalists who probably don't know any better, that much is true especially considering that while I don't necessarily agree with hist stance on the issue, he brought up some damn good points.

But how heavily fan praise/criticism affects Nintendo's choices is debatable. Obviously there is some influence when taking Earthbound's Virtual console announcement into account, but then a lot of the missteps from the Wii made their way into the Wii U (locking games to accounts, no cross-game party chat, etc.) despite constant scrutiny over these issues when almost every other digital outlet had found a much better way to handle it.

So don't go and generalize. There are fans who will defend their favorite company to the ends of the earth and there are sensible ones who will be conscious about these flaws and be critical of them.

Root1184d ago

I would be able to take yours seriously if I didn't know that you do the exact opposite...defend them left and right, makes blogs over and over about them and bash anyones opinion as "Nintendo haters2 when in fact all we can see is that Nintendo haven't been on top form lately

No one criticized them when the Wii became a success and they went to the top....people praised them and were happy for them, I mean who wouldn't but over the years they've just went down and down and down untill they've reached rock bottom

Lack of Wii U information when it was announced
Lack of games after launch
Nintendo missing E3 when the Wii U NEEDS exposure
The Wii U's price...not worth it fully
Nintendo saying they don't need advertisement
Not looking a head with third party support

It's just criticism at the end of the day, some people just can't stand living in a bubble. I was the same when Sony were entering this gen being big headed that the Xbox 360 wasn't a threat and look were it got them, now they learnt from their mistakes and are back on form. Microsoft isn't doing very well in the core department and feel like their entertainment services are need more then gaming services.

See...it's just observation, you don't need to put people down. I understand if it was a comment like "I HATE NINTENDO"..."NINTEND O SUCK" but some of them aren't.

N4g_null1184d ago

You know criticizing stuff is all fine and dandy. You have to understand some thing about nintendo. They only understand sales. If it sales or has potiential they are all on it.

If it is a fanboy rather for them or against them they don't hear that. To believe complain means a thing on the Internet is not being realistic.

Look Mario kart was hated by the hardcore lol. 30 million sold.
Wii fit hated by all hardcore sold 20 million.

I mean I could go on. Words are only words. Sales mean way more. Vote with your dollar man.

Smear champaing only works if no one likes a product.

Yet Xbox and Sony fans paint their fav companies into finacial corners much like what happed to sega. If nintendo is in such shape that they need to change then we will see another ps2 moment. As much as people claim n64 and Ngc where the best I can say I really didn't enjoy the majority of games on those systems. Yet the wii fixed those engine problem and 3d game play problems.

ChickeyCantor1184d ago (Edited 1184d ago )

"I would be able to take yours seriously if I didn't know that you do the exact opposite...defend them left and right, makes blogs over and over about them and bash anyones opinion as "Nintendo haters2 when in fact all we can see is that Nintendo haven't been on top form lately "

Says the one bashing Nintendo left and right.
Whether Nintendo fans bettered Nintendo, you would still come and go with your bias against Nintendo.

"Nintendo missing E3 when the Wii U NEEDS exposure "

No they are not missing it.
They will have a closed presentation to business people and will still showcase their games on their booth. They just won't have their usual presentation. That's what Nintendo Direct are for now. They release their key information on those videos including trailers and announcements.

Bash whatever you want, but I notice you going for poprock specifically. I thought you were done arguing with PopRock? So why bother provoking it with your nonsense?

stylishjerk1184d ago

I agree. Some of the Nintendo's criticism remarks are "trolls", but for the most part they are very accurate. Most of the criticism is to make Nintendo a better company. Im a Nintendo fan, and a big Sony fan as well. I remember when Sony was going through some hard times, they had some pretty rough criticism from the fans. And in return we got a more affordable Ps3, better online features (playstion plus), bigger investment in new Ip's, etc. This might not have had happened if gamers didn't tell Playstation what they wanted.

PopRocks3591184d ago

@Root

"I would be able to take yours seriously if I didn't know that you do the exact opposite...defend them left and right, makes blogs over and over about them and bash anyones opinion as "Nintendo haters2 when in fact all we can see is that Nintendo haven't been on top form lately"

Hey buddy, have you ever tried not lying about me when responding? I've already posted comments AND blogs being critical of Nintendo. If you're not going to take the time to acknowledge it then you're just being a blind troll yourself.

phantomexe1183d ago (Edited 1183d ago )

@ LOL WUT ___Your right up until you said nintendo fans can't take any kind of criticism. Maybe your new to this site but as a big playstation supporter myself sonyfanboys are the worst and this site is loaded with them. They can take 0 criticism at all and i've been coming to this site since 2006. Real gamers play great games and don't care which consule its on. Nintendo does a great deal right and a great deal wrong but so does sony and ms. Your right about nintendo fans needing to raise kane with nintendo but please don't pretend that ms or sony fans rise above criticism because this site is littered with proof they do not.

truechainz1183d ago

First off I will say that this does happen with Nintendo fans. The one thing I must say though is that you can't pretend like this is a new phenomenon unique to Nintendo fans. This is a trait of a fanboy, and fanboys have existed ever since people have had material possessions that they can own. So this article is pointless, and is only highlighting Nintendo because it is doing the "worst" right now. If that changes you can bet you will see an article just like this with another company's name in the title.

Secondly, lets not pretend like Nintendo will make any major changes because fans ask for it. I could fill a book with all the things that Nintendo fans have been asking for FOR YEARS and have never received. So that is why the only way Nintendo will change from fan request is if everybody immediately stopped buying their games. And I can tell you that won't happen because their games have not stopped being fun plain and simple. Nintendo is gonna be Nintendo and no amount of badgering from the media will change that (which is why I assume they are pretty much trying to work around the media anyway).

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Shok1184d ago (Edited 1184d ago )

Nintendo gets exaggerated, sometimes completely unnecessary hate these days.

BUT, the times where there IS a serious problem, or Nintendo does something extremely stupid, coming from a Ninty fan, I have to agree to a certain extent that Nintendo fans (or should I say extremists) defend every single decision Nintendo makes, even if it's blatantly stupid. Like this E3 conference situation for instance. I must say it's rather annoying to see such sheeple.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

sherimae24131184d ago (Edited 1184d ago )

yeah, that conversations and pointless arguments are annoying..
as if they really dont want nintendo to be criticized and must always be praised at anytime....
thats why many of ninty fans are called kids because of their immature and childish acts, and ther famous "brag about sales" meme
but in general, fanboys/girls of all platforms are annoying ^_^

RTheRebel1184d ago

You know Sony Drones are far worse Shokio lol

Utalkin2me1184d ago

No, what is far worse is people that think they know it all.

kneon1184d ago

@Utalkin2me

Excluding those of us that do know it all of course :)

OwlEyes1184d ago (Edited 1184d ago )

Yep. Look at all the Vita excuses.

"LOL! It's totally gonna beat the flop that is the 3DS" - It didn't.
"Of course it flopped in Japan, it was designed for Western gamers!" - It flopped over here too.
"Wait till E3 2012!" - They didn't reveal anything.
"COD will be a system seller!" - 30% Metacritic.
"Wait till a price drop!" - Price drop arrived in Japan, after a few weeks, system's back to almost the same level.
"Soul Sacrifice will be a Monster Hunter beater!" - it wasn't.
"Everyone will buy it to use as a PS4 controller!!!!"

sherimae24131183d ago

@owleyes

i think the sony fanboys can also said the same thing to wii u right? like all the vita excuses you comment,
and please the vita has nothing to do here and the same for the wii u....
didnt the 3ds, ps3 also go through with this but look at them now, they are full of games..

we all know within ourselves that these two new systems will definitely hold its ground and will continue to stay and deliver the games that we all expecting for

let set aside our insecurities, even if we only prefer one platform, may it be nintendo, sony or ms, it would be nice if we could talk about our systems and its games without talking nonsense or bashing at each other

and please can we just stop this sales talks or who has the best exclusives because in the end we are just only gamers and only consumers ^_^

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CouldHaveYelledUiiW1184d ago

I am one of those who believe that Nintendo skipping the conference (not E3) may be a good idea.
I have seen some people and Press, agree with it and some of those people aren't even Nintendo fans.

BUT
I don't consider myself a Sheeple for agreeing because:

- I am not following the crowd.
All of the disagrees I got each time I posted my opinion are evidence.

-I am not following the conventional way/ the system.
Since Nintendo is trying to do something NEW rather than just following the Herd.

-And I am not even following my Heart. (I want a Press Conference)
I am being pragmatic about all of this.

>Last 2 press conferences where panned by almost all, Iwata and Miyamoto's accents was made fun of, the press have a bias, Nintendo is not exp. with HD so the game's visuals may be fault worthy, Nintendo almost always shines at Game play. <

-Lastly, I realize that I Nintendo and I could be wrong.
But I don’t knock originality. .

Anyway,
They are doing something with the Press on the day that they would normally have the conference -
- It might be better to have select press play all of their games rather than having all of them ONLY look at their games And judging every offering by the PS4 and the XB720.

Hicken1183d ago

Yeah, it's obviously not every fan. Some fans- you among them- have realistic outlooks on the company, and don't try to ignore or explain away any problems the company might be having.

But there are others who just can't believe that Nintendo could do ANY wrong.

Even so, I don't think they're really hurting Nintendo. Unless they were some majority- I doubt they are- that Nintendo would have cause to pay significant attention to, I don't think they do much more than make themselves look bad.

And the less blinded fans tend to suffer image tarnishing, as well.

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MilkMan1184d ago

The only thing hurting Nintendo was Nintendo. Its the fans that keep them running and will keep them going.

All Nintendo needs to do is keep releasing great titles after great titles and the new tech is flexible enough to accommodate the trends that are on the horizon while still staying true to the Nintendo way of doing things.

kirbyu1184d ago (Edited 1184d ago )

The reason achievements are pointless is because they don't do anything. Also, an achievement is wasted potential if you get it for something you're gonna do anyway. Just think about it, which would be better, getting one for beating the final boss, or for beating the final boss without taking damage?

Nintendo fans supporting Nintendo's bad decisions is such a big deal. If M-soft or Sony made these decisions, their fans would say the same things.

stylishjerk1184d ago

I'm not an achievement whore by any means, but there are people who love them and it should be a pretty standard feature. I know some who take it to serious, but it is cool to look at your friends achievements and see that they beat a story mission or they accomplished a task. Or you can message your friend to do a co-op mission that you would not have done otherwise if there was not a achievement.

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