The Wii U isn't selling as well as hoped because consumers aren't being blown away by games like they used to be, according to Nintendo's Satoru Iwata.
I said that before, but everyone was annoyed with me.
For some reason I don't think you said it very politely lol. OT: The problem isn't the IPs themselves, I still get giddy over a new 3d mario and console zelda, but more of the genre they are used in. Each 3d mario and zelda have always felt fresh or at least different from the last but one like New Super Mario Bros U just don't add anything extra from previous entries. When the one for the Wii added co-op it made essentially the same game it has always been better and different to warrant a purchase. What I took from the article was this exactly, the gameplay needs to be more innovative more so than creating a new IP itself.
I think you are quite mistaken :)
And I can't disprove you...you win this round lol
Being tired of the same old games is the reason why I game on Nintendo consoles more than others now. I'm tired of shooters, ancient hack and slash games and gorefests. When I game with NIntendo I get things like Xenoblade Smash Brothers, Dillon's Rolling Western, Fortune Street, Mario Galaxy, The Last Story, Boom Blocks, Exicte Truck, Red Steel 2 etc... I'm tired of people trying to spin statements out of context. Iwata is talking about gaming in general, not Nintendo franchises as all sales point to them still being the most successful/popular games series on the planet Earth, yet here comes the, "When are they going to make new I.P.s" argument which is ridiculous because they already do. It doesn't matter how many new I.P. they make, though, because Nintendo haters will just ignore them and keep begging the question. The real issue with them is that they just want Nintendo to stop using their popular I.P.s, not make new ones. What they really mean when they ask this is, "When will Nintendo get rid of all of their popular titles that dwarf the games we like more in sells and give our preferred companies a chance to be number 1 in sales so we can stop being bitter our games not being on top." It has nothing to do with new I.P.s. They just resent Nintendo's success.
'tired of the same old games is the reason why I game on Nintendo consoles more than others now.I'm tired of shooters, ancient hack and slash games and gorefests.' Cuz ps3 only has killzone and god of war ...
Those aren't Wii U games though. I understand your point, however. Getting a console because the company makes the games you want is as good a reason as any. Perhaps they'll offer something that appeals to me enough to buy their console, down the road.
It's true but people still buy the same old games so they will keep making them :(
Most people tend to get annoyed when you speak the truth about something that was an investment! Who want to feel like they bet on the wrong horse? We all have taken that route at some point. This just proves that at some point Nintendo is going to have to switch up their tactics at some point, because you can only try a formula for so long, before someone come up with a better formula. How can a person say someone's words are taken out of context, unless the person themselves say their words were taken out of context? Are we now able to read people's minds? That the problem with us as gamers, we automatically assume that we understand what a person is trying to convey, before we give them the opportunity to clarify things. Notice I said "We", because at some point we have all been guilty of it.
The problem isn't really with the same old games; people still buy them in bucketloads for the 3DS. The problem is the Wii U. It has no identity, and Nintendo's attempt to make lighting strike in the same place by focusing on the control scheme has failed. Ultimately, there's still no reason for the consumer to invest in the Wii U's gamepad.
so it seems even nintendo themselves knows, that some or alot gamers are tired of same franchises over and over again... i think they should come up with more new ips, i know they are creative.. atleast sometimes they should take a risk..
That is not even the issue here. The articles title took Iwata's words way out of context as are you. He was talking about the gaming industry as a whole. In no way was he referring to Nintendo franchises, as they are still the top selling game software on the planet. He's talking about saturation in the market, not Nintendo I.P.s getting old(which they are not do to them constanstly being changed in each iteration which he mentions in the actual article) and not about making new I.P.s( they already do every year.) Straight from the article: [Iwata believes an overly saturated market is having a negative effect on the industry, as it's getting harder to impress new gamers. "We try to offer various kinds of software for a video game platform, and the games are improving steadily each year, but these improvements are becoming less noticeable," he told investors.] He talking more about the business practices of other companies(like First Person shooter spamming) than Nintendo.
I'm one of them. There's an obvious reason I didn't bought New Super Mario Bros U...
Nintendo is the last company I'd expect to be saying this...
But they didn't actually say that, the title is misleading. He said people "become tired of and get less excitement from the same type of entertainment." That's not quite the same as people are tired of the same old games.
then please make other thing than games with mario
This is FANTASTIC news. I am confident that Nintendo is headed in the proper direction. They understand the market and what is required. Imagine all the fresh, new creative ideas that can flow out of Nintendo. They have the talent and the money to pull this off. What seems to be difficult is the will. One man alone cannot change the direction of a such a conservative company like Nintendo.
I'm not tired of "the same old games", but I am a bit tired of Nintendo. Their games hardly drop in price and their consoles are costly whilst being dated. I see Nintendo games on shelves in stores for the same price as they were at launch. Mario 64 3DS for the same price today as the same price it launched at? Same with Mario Bro's Wii. I can't get all games at launch, but when I see newer amazing games at a cheaper price than Nintendo games I wonder why I still have faith in Nintendo. Gamecube days were amazing :(
That's because Nintendo games hold more value than others.
3rd Person shooter style action games are already getting quite tiring, i don't know why anybody still plays FPS's, and i think the 2d platformer was quite heavily saturated last gen. Iwata is right, but it doesn't look as though even Nintendo have the answer for what should be the replacement. I would've guessed maybe Nintendo was banking on RTS interest exploding on home consoles, since the WII U controller is born for it, but who knows if that'll happen after the Blizzard/Diablo 3/PS4 news.
sucks for Nintendo & MS who only release the same games over & over with nothing new thrown in. Sony is the only one of the 3 who continually releases new IP's along with the older franchises.
Yeah and how many of those IPs have sony already driven into the ground?
better to have them and drive them in the ground then to do nothing except the samething over & over like MS & Ninty have for. When was the last new 1st party IP that MS or Ninty released?
Good question: which IPs HAS Sony driven into the ground? I'm sure you won't mind divulging this information on which franchises Sony has burned out.
Nintendo needs to start thinking outside the box. I'm 31 years old and I have been tired of jumping on heads, rescuing dumb princesses, and spitting fireballs since I was 18. Nintendo has become too stubborn for their own good. Almost like Nintendo design hardware just for themselves and don't really care what third party developers think outside a few home grown developers. This attitude will only lead to more gamers dumping Nintendo for Sony and Microsoft as the gaming population ages. The predicted move with Satoru Iwata trying to make Reggie look bad does not help either.
Iwata is just stating that it's getting harder to please the masses, which is true. Gamers are becoming more and more spoiled. Everyone wants something new and fresh, which is understandable, but the time and money to create things like that is harder to come around by. Games are getting larger, thus the cause for more developers and more money, not to mention more time.
Same types of games =/= same types of characters there will be games with mario, zelda, donkey kong, kirby, samus, ect games as long as Nintendo exists
I don't mean to start a huge argument here but is anybody just tired of seeing Mario in new games? coz I am tired of bowser story (kidnap peach)
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Mario, Zelda or any of Nintendo's 1st party games. The problem is that they are constantly being released without giving the gamers the time to appreciate the games when a new one will be out shortly. There are too many 'Mario' games released in too short of a time frame. Space these games out more on release so players can enjoy the game without having at the back of their mind that another one is coming soon.
I dont know if anyone got this but he basically said, whats the point in making new ips if the market is saturated and thus the investment is hardly justified. He is basically expressing his reason why the company would not go out of their comfort zone to take more risks on new ips. This, kinda thinking is short sided, heck even EA who is used to milking franchises to their grave are taking more risks these days. Nintendo has successful ips, and maybe tbey dont need to invest in new ones, but here we talk about MS and their 4 game roster like no tomorrow, if they had 5 more franchises to market then they would be no different than the big N. Honestly i just hope all 3 are successful and all bring something new and fresh to the industry. The industry needs new ideas, new visions, not just new ways to play the same old thing.
8 mario titles on wii, sigh
Give me an updated version of Blast Corps and I'd be happy or a pimped Turok/ Turok 2 HD combo pack or DooM 64 HD.
Not at all. Old games are the best. They ARE FREAKING DIFFICULT, what nowadays games fail miserably. If you don't agree, try playing freaking Contra...
Then create new IPs rather than new iterations of Mario, legend of zelda and metroid and donkey kong. And Kirby. And Pokemon.
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