Submitted by stormtrooper 738d ago | opinion piece

Xbox 720 Will Most Likely Have the Same Controller

The Xbox 360 controller is the iconic video game controller of this generation. It has just the right amount of buttons and complexity to support all the actions needed for today’s games. With a highly liked and functional controller it wouldn't be surprising if the Xbox 720 has the same controller as the Xbox 360, just look at what the Wii U did. (Xbox 360, Xbox One)

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MonkeyNinja  +   738d ago
I never liked the stick layout on 360 controller. Just my opinion.
Root  +   738d ago
It's nice when playing First Person Shooters and Driving games but any thing other then that, especialy fighting games it's just not that good in my opinion

It's why I think the Dualshock is still a great controller even today, it's adaptable when playing many different genres and even then it's still good for first person shooters and driving games.

All this "it's too small" crap just came out of no where...I mean no one had a problem with it before the 360 with the Dualshock and the Dualshock 2
Jake_Maguire  +   738d ago
We were all teens then. Plus nobody complained about standard definition until HD came along. It's called progression.
Root  +   738d ago
Standard definition wasn't one of those "If it aint broke don't fix it" things while the Dualshock kind of was.....all it needs with each new DS is small improvements which they've done for the DS4.
Jake_Maguire  +   738d ago
What was so broken with SD before HD came along? Please enlighten me because this I gotta hear.
Go ahead...

Here's the gist of it, modern design/tech will almost always render old /tech obsolete and/or archaic.
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maniacmayhem  +   738d ago
"I mean no one had a problem with it before the 360 with the Dualshock and the Dualshock 2"

HUH!? That's because no one had anything to compare it too.
BLKxSEPTEMBER  +   738d ago
I disagree and agree with. I agree that the 360 controller sucks for fighters but I think its perfect for all other game genres. I also agree that the DS is great for some fighter like tekken but sucks for six button fighters. I disagree about the DS being good for fps. To me the thumb sticks are to close and my thumbs tend to rub or slip off the controller.
NeverEnding1989  +   738d ago
The Xbox 360 controller is one of the greatest ever. See reviews and any top 10 lists for proof. Not to mention the total lack of complaints (including the d-pad which Microsoft fixed). Also the many similarities between the Xbox 360 controller and the PS4 and Wii U controllers.

Grip change, battery change, possibly a share button (not needed). These are changes we'll see, but otherwise it's essentially the perfect controller. No change needed. When compared to the Dualshock, it desperately needed change and it may have taken Sony 2 generations, but they finally changed it. There has been no major complaints towards the Xbox 360 controller, that's why it'll most likely remain the same.
kickerz  +   738d ago
Actually your kinda wrong. The only style of game the xbox controller aint too good at is fighting games (like you said) but thats it. If they fix the D pad like NYC_gamer stated below, it will be the perfect controller. whenever i pick up a playstation controller it just feels so cramped and uncomfortable. (just my opinion)
DOMination-  +   738d ago
Its definitely rubbish for 2d games. Its gard to fix the dpad because Sony has a patent on it but i hope MS find a solution. The transforming dpad was better but still not as good as the dualshock. Other than this, there are no problems with it.
edonus  +   738d ago
Technically its only bad for 2d style fighters. Its much better for 3d fighter like DOA and Soul Caliber.

The dualshock is a bastard design. They shoe horned those 2 analog stick into the controller because they needed a simple that wouldnt change things up too much. It was the best they could do with what they had.

People just got use to it... that doesnt mean its right. I always felt the Sony controller was small but its not a deal breaker you can learn to use it. But like I said that dont make it right.

Just like the 360 d-pad is bad but you can learn to make it work.....but that dont make it right.
I think the problem with the d-pad is that its all one piece and extends out Sony and Nintendo hold the patents on their d-pad designs so you cant copy them.

I think they should try and do something like the old sega satrun d-pad model 2.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   736d ago
It's funny how people just don't understand the point in having assymetrical sticks. The idea wasn't ever to have your hands positioned assymetrically, but instead to keep a confortable grip while you use the left stick and the face buttons.

Yet we keep hearing how it's great for shooters... No it isn't! In shooters you control both sticks most of the time, so much that the most used actions (like shoot or zoom) are assigned to shoulder buttons instead of face buttons (you only have 2 thumbs after all), so it would be better off with a symetrical layout.

And just like in shooters, you control the camera all the time for most modern games, in fact that's why most action games today are said to have shooter mechanics even if you don't have a gun, you want to "aim" (look at your objective) all the time, instead of the old fixed camera (when you usually just look at your character's actions).

In fact, the best scenario for assymetric sticks is exactly that, a fixed/automatic camera, when you have one thumb on the left stick and the other on the face buttons of such a controller you are gripping evenly with both hands. So you could say that said controller would be great for fighting games (even 2D fighters as long as you play on the stick, if you go for the D-pad you are holding it assymetrically again), sidescollers, some hack'n'slash (ironically God of War still uses a fixed camera better suited to 360 controller) and most RPGs (not so much on WRPGs as they are usually played with shooter mechanics, but indeed they still use face buttons a lot).

Looking through that logic it seens the genres people praise the most on 360 are better suited for PS3 controllers and the other way around is also true (fighter - on sticks -, h&s and RPGs on PS3 you never get a perfect grip), which alone should make me sound crazy enough for you to stop reading.

Still, I guess most people simply don't get the real practical difference between symetric and assymetric sticks... Which actually is minimal. The fact you are gripping differently with each hand will only lead you to disconfort after at least some 4 hours playing straight, a controller is simply not heavy enough to couse such an effect much long before. So the whole layout wars going here is really making a volcano out of an ant hill.

End of the day I guess we'll just get used to either one we play the most and than come back with absurd claims about which controller have the better layout when in fact it has little to do with layout and a lot more to do with shape preferences (heavily dependent on your hands shape and size) and components quality (like PS3 is perceived as better for fighters because of the better D-Pad or 360 in shooter for the better analog sticks)... One thing I guess we can all agree through, there's no such a thing as a perfect layout for every game and surely not a perfect controller for every gamer.
maddfoxx  +   738d ago
The d-pad on the 360 controller makes playing fighters impossible.
NYC_Gamer  +   738d ago
That's fine long as the D pad is improved
sak500  +   738d ago
Agreed. I have 5 controllers and hope they are compatible with 720. The only beef was teh D-pad and they had already improved it recently but those controllers they were selling separately.

PS2/3 controllers on the other hand feel so plasticy and small and both sticks in center cause cramps.
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IronFistChinMi  +   738d ago
It's already confirmed that they use a different wireless technology for Durango pads, so you won't be able to use your 360 ones.
JeffGUNZ  +   738d ago
Nothings confirmed, as MS hasn't said anything but a date when they will reveal it. You're gong off "leaked" info which isn't fact.
sak500  +   737d ago

MS hasn't officially even acknowledged existence of 720 and yet you have confirmed report of different wireless technology? Care to share the link?
kickerz  +   738d ago
agreed, also maybe make the sticks a bit more tuff, if u run around alot in Halo, you have to push the stick in, and after many many hours of playing the outer plastic bit on the stick wears off a little, but yeah other then that its fine.
mcstorm  +   738d ago
Nyc I agree but I would like it to be as light as the Wiiu pro controller include rechargeable batterys and improve the dpad. I think if they do that they will have the best controller again. I like what Sony have added to the ds4 but I always get cramp when using a Sony controller. I have since the ds4 as I have quite big hands.
WildArmed  +   737d ago
Agreed. Only complaint of mine for the 360 controller.

Though I never really played fighting games so it's luckily never been an issue.
Qrphe  +   738d ago
I wish they'd go back to the S controller. That controller had better triggers and a better d-pad.
colonel179  +   738d ago
I loved Xbox S controller! Better than 360's in my opinion. I wonder what they will come up with this time around.

360 and S controllers are some of the best controllers, but the most comfortable one is Gamecube's.

I had never liked the Dualshock controller until I got a PS3 and now I love it. The new Dualshock 4 is looking much more improved and comfortable.
Jake_Maguire  +   738d ago
Change the D-pad. Perfect controller for man sized gamer hands.
Riderz1337  +   738d ago
And what would you define as "man sized gamer hands". So because I dislike the 360 controller my hands aren't "manly"?
BitbyDeath  +   738d ago
Man hands

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zebramocha  +   738d ago
@bitby funny! :) 
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BitbyDeath  +   737d ago
Wait so man hands means you have small hands? I always thought it were the opposite. If you had large/regular size hands you'd have a bigger circumference between your index and thumb and would not find it so hard to reach the buttons and sticks all at once.

Think we should rename man hands to midget or just plain small hands. IMO
Denethor_II  +   737d ago
"Change the D-pad. Perfect controller for man sized gamer hands."

For fat North American hands.
Bigpappy  +   738d ago
That would be great if true. It would save me some good cash. Plus the 360 controller is already quite comfy.
T2  +   738d ago
I find it too fat , requires you to push in with index finger hurting the inside ... I dunno could be me ... Size is ok but too thick, heavy and AA batteries? Room for improvements
sak500  +   738d ago
The controller are for avg sized males not small dwarfs.
flyingmunky  +   738d ago
That is exactly why Microsoft will not allow you to use your old controller. They will not pass up a chance to accessorize the new console to pick up more money.
ichimaru  +   737d ago
correct me if im wrong, but hasn't Every console launched a new controller design? ds2,3, and4 aren't compatible, why is ms "money hungry" for launching a new stick
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KaBaW  +   737d ago
@ichimaru -
Well, that would be because Sony is the 'perfect' company who only create and use new controllers for chances of improvements. Duuuuh.
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TooTall19  +   738d ago
If it isn't broke don't fix it. If there is something I would like to see improved on it would be the face buttons. I would like them to be a little larger and flatter.
DestinyHeroDoomlord  +   738d ago
Cool just fix the dpad for fighting games, because pulling a forward-down-bottom right corner is hard enough as is during a 13 hit combo
Max-Zorin  +   738d ago
What other people already said. Just make a better D-Pad for fighting games. other than that, the controller is fine.
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ErzaScarlet  +   738d ago
I like the Xbox 360 gamepad, so I hope that MS will not change the layout or style of it next gen.
maniacmayhem  +   738d ago
Fix the d-pad. I said this before but they should go back to the S-controller's d-pad.

Other than that the controller is pretty dang perfect. If anything the small early rumors of maybe having force feedback in the triggers would be awesome.
greenpowerz  +   738d ago
Make the d-pad as solid as the rest of the controller and inputs and widen the controller a bit or make the guide button a bit smaller, the start and back buttons causes me to hit the guide button. Reduce the size of the battery pack so people don't get blisters on their middle finger top knuckle. Other than that it doesn't need changing. I often catch myself holding the controller after I turned the console off because of the comfortability of it. Stiffer springs in the triggers with more play and more resistance in the sticks would be welcome.
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EffectO  +   738d ago
Good,no touchpad,touchscreen gimmicks please.
Denethor_II  +   737d ago
Yeah no gimmicks, just give me Kinect.
ALLWRONG  +   738d ago
Fix the D-pad and it's good to go.
WeAreLegion  +   738d ago
Fix the d-pad and the bumpers. Then, remove the battery pack in the middle, giving it a li-ion internal pack. Also, put some more plastic between the top of the controller and the handles, like the Dreamcast controller, but with a curve in the upper middle. Also, add the convex internally/concave externally on the analog sticks, like the DualShock 4 has. Then, we may have something...
ichimaru  +   737d ago
I was tracking until the analog bit. I live the indent analogs the cradle the thumbs
MoreRPG  +   738d ago
Good news the 360 controller is great i find it quite comfortable except for fighting games. I dont like to play fighting games with normal controllers.
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MasterCornholio  +   738d ago
With a better DPAD. After all the complaints that Microsoft has received about the DPAD they will change it.
Evil_Ryu  +   738d ago
One of the main reasons i prefer Xbox over Playstation
ufo8mycat  +   738d ago
I was hoping they wouldnt drastically change the 306 controller just for kicks, because that controller is damn near perfect.

I would of thought possibly had a rubberized texture to the controller for a more softer feel.

To be honest, I have ZERO issues with the DPAD, then again I do not play fighting games.

And to those dissing the PS3 controller, IMO that controller is fine as well. Obviously not as good for FPS,TPS (Action,Adventure) and driving games, but thats because the DS3 wasent designed for those type of games where the 360 controller was.

The DS3 is still absolutely fine and I have no problems using it for those type of games.

DS3 is no way near as bad as people make it out to be, but yes, it does need improvements.
Jek_Porkins  +   738d ago
I think it's safe to assume they changed it up a bit, probably the D-pad at least. I love the 360 controller, so the less changes the better for me, but I have a feeling it'll have some kind of touch pad and share button as well.
Amigaengine  +   738d ago
I agree. Fix the D-pad because it is awful and the Xbox controller is perfect.
josephayal  +   738d ago
360 controller just feels right in my hands to be honest
ichimaru  +   737d ago
feels like it hugs your hand doesn't it
a7xgemini  +   738d ago
Fix the D-Pad, and make the left and right bumpers more squishy but firm, and I'll buy 4 of them.
4lc4pon3  +   738d ago
i will admit that the 360 for myself sucks but I do like the controller which feels nice in my hands. I think they should of at least put in a rechargable battery pack but I do see they made another extended batt pack that you MUST buy that is 23% better then last gen.
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level 360  +   738d ago
XBox360 was by far the best/most ergonomic/perfectly comfortable control pad. Way better than PS3 I think.
The battery pack underneath was it's only weakness giving it some hefty weight.

For XBox Infinite, most likely the new control pad will be an evolution because everything about it was correct.
Supermax  +   737d ago
Nothin wrong with the 360 controller do a little work on the d pad is all that's needed
hazardman  +   737d ago
Good cause all they needed to fix on it was the dpad other than that the layout and feel are fine.
airgangstarr  +   737d ago
i think the ps controller is probably the biggest reason i wont buy a ps4 besides there psn the network is horrible... but the controller the sticks are too loose an to close no triggers the fact u have to use the rb to shoot or whatever they call it i like shooting with my triggers not a bumper there half ass backwards but it a japanese product so thats why its so small
Dee_Cazo  +   737d ago
Thank god. Wouldnt mess with this it is perfect, one of the reasons I can't play shooters on playstation.
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