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Divnich: PS4 Reveal Had No 'Material Impact' On Microsoft

NowGamer: "Microsoft has finally announced that the next Xbox is coming, but there was a distinct lack of interest from a large portion of our readers - had Sony's PS4 dulled the effect of the next Xbox announcement?

"Sony’s early announcement was a surprise to us all," said EEDAR's Jesse Divnich, "but I doubt it had any material impact on when Microsoft planned to announce their next hardware." (Jesse Divnich, Microsoft, PS4, Sony, Xbox One)

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Ad3rs78   946d ago | Spam
GalacticEmpire  +   945d ago | Well said
The Xbox 3 reveal is suffering from being second to announce, in that people were totally expecting it. Unlike the PS4 reveal announcement which came out of nowhere, I remember people didn't even know if it even would be the PS4, the speculation and hype went through the roof. So, being the second to announce is always going to make less of an impact.
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MasterCornholio  +   945d ago
Hey Listen!

I remember that right before the PS4s announcement people who claiming how the PS3 had a lot of life left in it and that we didn´t need a new generation of consoles. All that changed when Sony announced the date of the PS4 event which caused everyone to change their minds.

I wasnt expecting the PS4 to be unveiled so early. I was expecting it to be revealed at e3 with a release at the end of 2014.


Well it wont affect the hardware or the software for the PS4 at all because its a bit late to change any of that. However some of the features that Microsoft might announce for Live could go into PSN later on in the future. The same could happen with some new features that Sony announces for PSN.
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GalacticEmpire  +   945d ago
"All that changed when Sony announced the date of the PS4 event which caused everyone to change their minds."

You're right, the PS4 reveal was so well done that it changed a lot of peoples minds about next gen. They liked what they saw and now they're up for it.

@logic below - Read my comment again, you'll not my use of the words "a lot of peoples minds" as in a lot of people, not all. I would read carefully before criticising someone in the future.

As for explaining...

What difference do the launch dates make? We're talking about the announcements here. It's mostly to do with the element of surprise I guess, MS just don't have that anymore. People have already had a glimpse of next gen, the novelty will be worn thing by the time MS show thier hand.
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LOGICWINS  +   945d ago
"They liked what they saw and now they're up for it"

You don't know what everyones reaction was. Unless your the Messiah and have the ability to be at all places at all times and hear everyones thoughts/feelings.
Some could have been positive, some could have been negative, and others could have been mixed.

Also, could u explain how Microsoft announcing second will have "less of an impact" when BOTH consoles are launching at the SAME time period?
zebramocha  +   945d ago
@logic there is nothing Ms could better other than games to have a better conference than Sony.

@nuke only criticism I've seen is,them not showing what the console looks like.

Before the vita was launched the 3ds had a significant price cut.
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LOGICWINS  +   945d ago
@zebra- I missed the memo that made you the mascot for all gamers in the known universe. I'm assuming your speaking for yourself no?
Muerte2494  +   945d ago
@ LogicWins...
I know you're trying to play "the voice of reason" card so your bubbles won't take a hit. But the general consensus from gamers and developers, remains very positive. The only negative attention is coming from xbox fans claiming to be PC gamers. People are going into Micorosoft's meeting with questions that need answers. Those rumors have hurt and need to be addressed.

Will this be Kinect focused? (kinect built in)

Can you assure the gamer that this is about games. (lack of core games at the end of xbox360 life span)

Will you still charge for xbox live to play online? (not being able to use Netflix,Hulu,ect without XBL GOLD)

Will the console be "Always-On"? (require a connection to combat piracy)

I feel that if even one of these aren't answered, then it will be seen as nothing but a failure. Also if they do plan to launch close together, than people are really going to have to choose. It will come down to America, because it's the last stand for the Xbox brand. Sony's dominance in both EU and JPN will guarantee Sony's lead. I feel America will be split. Microsoft doesn't have that year advantage they had last time. People actually have a choice this time around.

Playstation is a very strong brand associated with gaming. Time to draw your lines in the sand fellas. Pick a side.

2nd Lieutenant of Plastation 4 army lol
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zebramocha  +   945d ago
@logic you're being a little up-tight about my comment,because how can Ms improve on social features that Sony showed?apps are most likely going to be even between the both of them,games are the only way Ms can wow people,pricing can be a factor but rumors seem to indicate a similar pricing between the two.
NewMonday  +   945d ago

MS showing 2nd and revealing a less powerful system(from rumors) will not get people excited. they need to pull some surprises, they know that and I'm sure they will do. I think they will show off some of the big exclusiv games they are saving for E3.
LOGICWINS  +   945d ago
Zebra, u still haven't answered my question. Are you speaking for youself or are you speaking for all gamers? The answer will determine whether or not your worth arguing with.

@Muerte- Yes, being rational human being means I'm playing a "card" lol.
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zebramocha  +   945d ago
@logic I don't know how my comment can be representative of all gamers be they Sony or Ms fans because nothing I wrote suggest I was speaking for everyone,unless your seeing what you want to see,I merely suggested it being difficult for Ms to show anything better other than games,social features apps and connectivity to the console would be similar between them.
NewMonday  +   945d ago
"I feel America will be split. Microsoft doesn't have that year advantage they had last time. People actually have a choice this time around"

true, even if the PS4 gets 40% and Durango gets 60% Sony will be happy because the PS4 will dominate in the rest of the world even more than the PS3 because of a quick launch and good price.
Salooh  +   945d ago
Disagrees coming from the people who changed their minds lol. Seriously why disagree when this is true ?..
djthechamp24  +   945d ago
The ps3 got no fucking juice left man.
darthv72  +   945d ago
how quickly we forget
I believe Sony made some comment a while ago that they wouldn't risk launching after Ms so it can be implied they would announce before Ms as well.

Here is the ironic part. The fans will never see the situation as anything other than a good thing. If Ms announced first, Sony fans would say Sony is saving the best for last. Sony announcing first, Sony fans say its getting the jump on Ms. Its a win win in their eyes either way.

Ms fans would feel the same if the situation was reversed. Neutral fans see it as one company announces and then the other has time to revise their announcement but overall it should be another good show.
nukeitall  +   945d ago
On the contrary, revealing second gives MS a chance to respond to the criticism Sony received and make a bigger impact.

It also let's MS formulate a strategy to combat Sony's presentation.

So there are benefits and cons to both and, in the grand scheme of it all, it is negligible. It is the final execution that matters.

Remember how the PS Vita was praised to high heavens while 3DS lauded as terrible, yet the complete reverse happened in the market.

Nintendo made a mistake, but executed well in the end and saved the 3DS fate while Sony has a bombed product on their hand so far.

That is reality versus fanboy hype. Reality always win!
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MonkeyNinja  +   945d ago
"On the contrary, revealing second gives MS a chance to respond to the criticism Sony received and make a bigger impact."

What criticism?
Adva  +   945d ago
Of not showing the box? really? E3 is right around the corner.
GalacticEmpire  +   945d ago
You're right, of course that only holds true if MS manage to follow through and totally top the PS4 announcement, which is hard to believe for many atm.
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Urusernamesucks  +   945d ago
"The Xbox 3 reveal is suffering from being second to announce, in that people were totally expecting it."

not according to game stop surveys, no one outside the internet world is aware of the next box reveal, regardless of people like you and me who are expecting it, there are more of them than there are of us.

i remember when an amount of people on my school were getting hyped about the ps4...that was 3 months ago, that hype is pretty much gone. All Sony has left to fuel that hype is the showing the console itself.

Ms in the other hand has A TON OF CONTENT to reveal at e3 and probably will try not to keep people waiting and release the console asap.Because if you think about it there is nothing holding them back to the previous gen, no new game releases or nothing.

Sony did the mistake of realeasing two new exclusives this year ;TLOU and BTS which need breathing space to sell well, and releasing the ps4 as soon as them would make them suffer.
NobleTeam360  +   945d ago
How are they not aware? Their is a big ass add on the front of the Xbox dashboard and on the website and social media websites like facebook and twitter? Who isn't aware exactly?
Urusernamesucks  +   944d ago
Oh gee i.dont know maybe people Who dont turn on theyr consoles that often, theres alot of.people with.lives out there you know people who tend to loose theyr interest.
lilbroRx  +   945d ago
Wouldn't that be third?
Bigpappy  +   945d ago
The Xbox next event, will be just as well attended as the PS4 event, if not even more so. I think the PS4 supporters have succeeded in drawing lots of attention to the Xbox, due to the constants search for negative rumors and at times treating them as facts.

What all of this has done, is peaked a lot of interest as to whether the rumors will be proven true or false. It has only really succeeded in lowering expectations for the Xbox. So if M$ shows an evenly capable and supported console, it could low enthusiasm that was bit among many who thought PS4 was the greatest console ever. If the rumor prove true, some of it could hurt M$ if they don't show some ground breaking games and features Sony doesn't and can provide.

8 GIG of GDDR5 RAM sound really good, but it is really no better than DDR3 if the Graphics chips do not push the bandwidth. If Xbox next has a better Video chip and regular DDR3 RAM, it will out perform the PS4. So people really needed to calm down and wait and see what M$ reveals and not take the rumors as seriously as they did. M$ could fail to deliver, but trying to hard to predict that is careless at best.
showtimefolks  +   945d ago
Dear MS i would like to believe that but no y'all did have to scramble at the last moment to get it together since sony for the 1st time in a long time had a very smooth launch announcement

now there is big expections on May 21st make a great 1st impression like sony please, we need the old MS like the one in 2005 that cared about core gamers and were serious about competition

talk about the specs in detail
don't talk too much about kinect
show games
than out to rest the rumors of always online
show more games
talk about xblive reward program something like PSN:plus
and end it by showing more games
JeffGUNZ  +   945d ago
Scramble? Sony announced their PS4 on 2/20/12. It'll be 3 months after that date when MS announces theirs. That's not really scrambling. You'd have a point if this happened a few weeks after and they threw together a half-hazzard show, but it appears that this is going to be a huge event. being televised and what not. Those types of deals take time to establish. This was MS agenda the entire time as far as we know. I do agree the reveal needs to give a taste of hardcore games. I want to see one new IP for the reveal and several more for E3.
hiredhelp  +   945d ago
Firstly MS never gonna admit if they concerned about ps4.
Secondly doesn't matter if MS does have better system or the same for me it's about the games.
Sony has no Red tape to cut threw no classes no BS.
Sony will in courage innovation and support any of there studios and buy into new studios dev's when they see talent. Something MS skimps on.
Sony started off slow but look at them now huge fan base huge library games to boot.
There only other fault witch MS does well is advertisement but let's face it good games sell themselves however long takes.
Next gen has already been WON.
JeffGUNZ  +   945d ago
Come on. Good games sell themselves? No they don't. Advertising does. Look at the sales for Halo then compare them to Killzone. Look at the sales of Gears and compare them to Uncharted. Even away from numbers, look at it this way. Ask a random person who "Nate" is in the gaming world and see their response. Now ask that same person who "Master chief" is and see their response. Advertising moves merchandise, it's simple. You can't think in terms of you and I, as we follow gaming closely, so we know what games are coming. We are not the average markup of the gaming community, a lot of people have no idea about games like heavy rain. Sony needs to step it up with advertising and they will sell more games. Their games are great, so it would only benefit them.
GodsPerfectK7ng  +   945d ago
it could go either way bro!!!
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yesmynameissumo  +   945d ago | Well said
As the Xbox reveal will have no impact on Sony.
Count  +   945d ago
Nice defense. /s
yesmynameissumo  +   945d ago
It's not a defense. It's a reality. If you think either company is sitting biting their nails over what the other is doing, you're either : a child or a fanboy whose personified Microsoft and Sony.

EDIT: I saw a comment that holds true from both sides of the fence...and responded (without saying "Sony doesn't care").

"See something you don't like, react in a way that makes you feel better about the situation."

That's in regards to your comment, right? Never mind. It has to be.
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Count  +   945d ago
It just seemed like a defensive response to me. See something you don't like, react in a way that makes you feel better about the situation.

In this case, saying Sony won't care either.

EDIT: Sure. Don't refute it, just spin it back at me. Whether or not you think I am projecting here doesn't change the reality. If you accept that this affects me, then how could you possibly think it hadn't affected you?

You're the one that reacted on a larger case by case basis.

It was pathetically obvious it would have no material impact on Microsoft. And it's pathetically obvious it won't have any material impact on Sony too. I never said you were wrong. I just said it seemed defensive to me.
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Dee_91  +   945d ago
actually you put sarcasm after "nice defense" implying its a bad defense not just a defensive comment like your claiming you meant..People use sarcasm so out of term on this site..
if its "pathetically obvious" that what yesmynameissumo said is true then its not being defensive its stating the reality of the situation.Point being your wrong :)
kenshiro100  +   945d ago
How is his comment a defense? Why should Sony be scared? Why should Microsoft be scared? They're competing for our wallets/and/or purses.

In the end gamers win. I have no problem with that.
joeorc  +   945d ago
exactly, it come's down to support for your platform you are releasing. Content is King, it really does not matter in the grand scheme who release when or at what time, other than can the company support the new platform with content over time that i will enjoy as a consumer of the product they release, and if Im happy at the software and service's they provide me.

And Since from my own experience none of the big three have let me down in the past, all three of the companies . Nintendo Microsoft and Sony have all provided me with good Software and services.

do I have a preference among the three, sure every Gamer has preference's to the type's of Game's they play. but it's not like there is no content from all three platform's that i cannot find enjoyment from.

All three has Software that i like, and sofar plenty of it.

so releasing later after another platform releases is of no real bother to me or my family because we end up getting it later anyway.
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   945d ago
The ps4 material was bland with games looking marginally better than the ps3. There is a reason why MS kept their cool and didn't panic to show there product.
@below you still going by those leaked specs from VGLeaks from a very early Durango dev kit. Since then VGleaks have updated the Durango specs.....dogs will hunt.
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majiebeast  +   945d ago | Well said
Microsoft is king of bland looking games so dont expect much, except for Pizzahut app 2.0 and another Halo!

Lol Infamous second son and KZ:SF look more then marginally better. The physics of Knack are a big step up from this gen on consoles.

You really think MS will do better with what is rumoured be a pretty big stepdown from the PS4 in terms of specs? You are dreaming.
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Jek_Porkins  +   945d ago
Funny you bust out "another Halo", then mention another Infamous and Killzone game as counterpoints.
Anzil  +   945d ago
theres only been 2 infamous games and 3 killzones! halo is on its sixth game in the series!but i love halo lol
Root  +   945d ago


The third inFAMOUS game and 4th main Killzone game


The it will be the 8th Halo game when Halo 5 comes out. We've had two Killzone games this gen while Halo has had 5.

Come on the math

It's not like Sony relies on Killzone like MS do with Halo, least Sony has other types of games they put out alongside FPS like Killzone
Why o why  +   945d ago
New ips dude. People like them as much as they like old ips. Hint is the balance some gamers get over others.

We all know sony will bring new ips to the ps4 alongside its current ones. Just look at this year alone... 2 new full price ips and a couple psn ones...balance mate, not an over reliance on old ips alone
GraveLord  +   945d ago
So you really think the XBox 720 specs are actually more powerful than the PS4? LMFAO.

PS4 reveal obviously has an impact on Microsoft as they've been forced to reveal before E3. They wanted to reveal this April but they wanted to show the console box to avoid the same complaints as the PS4.
LOGICWINS  +   945d ago
"So you really think the XBox 720 specs are actua more powerful than the PS4? LMFAO."

U have any insider info that indicates otherwise?
josephayal   945d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(2)
Kyosuke_Sanada  +   945d ago
Well duh, no money is on the table yet.....
ELBACANO  +   945d ago
To the writer.
This article is meaning less and you can very much sum it up as a hit seeker, i mean how can you evaluate something when nothing has been shown on the Microsoft side of the house unless you work for Microsoft or have a family member or something. There is no way of telling of any kind of impact if any Sony has made. please look for other things to write about instead of non-sense, and by the way everything has an effect in this world and for every action there is a reaction, did it happen with Sony and Microsoft unknown, so i say leave at that until Microsoft shows their cards.Have a great day.
ThatsGaming  +   945d ago
I didn't see much from Sony and I don't expect much from Microsoft.

The real event will be E3.

MS has already cautioned their announcement. Stating that there will be more blockbuster games at E3. I am sure Sony is planning the same.

At the press event, I expect Microsoft to be globally focused on all the console capabilities whereas Sony was only focused on gaming.
solidworm  +   945d ago
It will have zero impact on the next box because the 720 is an already built console and so any ideas Sony may have given them with their reveal, well its way too late to implement them at this point without a total rebuild and that would cost MS billions and make them late to the party. Only time will tell but if the nextbox is lacking in comparison to the ps4 then MS will just have to suck it up and concentrate on the games, something they have failed badly at this gen.
Salooh  +   945d ago
Actually it's not true. They changed the amount of ram in 360 in last moment. They still can change , even sony can change things since they said they are not done yet with the controller and the console.

I don't trust companies when it comes to competing and money. Never will even sony. But i trust sony to bring us a new experience and focusing on games, they deserved this trust..
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JeffGUNZ  +   945d ago
Where's the link confirming the ram increase? Please don't show me a link to a rumor, leaked info, or anonymous source. I want something from MS stating they have altered their hardware AT ALL since the PS4 reveal.
Williamson  +   945d ago
I liked the ps4 reveal. It showed that the ps4 will focus mainly on games and have options like social media integration for those who want to use it. I cant wait to see certain franchises on the ps4.
smashcrashbash  +   945d ago
Like the people above me said it is basically too late to change anything on the console now so anything Sony came up with they can't just change in midstream.So of course it made no impact. Kind of too late for that now.I don't know what is all this premature 'Microsoft will win next gen' speeches. They barely managed to remain second with a weaker console form Nintendo and a weaker Sony.How will they fair with both of them on the same level?
Sevir  +   945d ago
Id argue that MS's impending announcement will also have no material impact on Sony and its plans fi
Both Companies have a clear vision for the next generation of consoles and they are both going in a different direction. Sony seems squarely on promoting the games and the socially connected aspect of the gamers of today while addressing the needs of the hardcore gamers of yesteryear.

while we don't have concrete evidence as to what MS has planned for the Xbox, the fact that TV and entertainment is also placed in the catch description for the reveal, lends plenty of credence to the already numerous, though unconfirmed, reports that Games will not be the sole point of the console.

What MS will bring to the console market will be innovative, but that portion of the innovation will be geared towards a different audience.

While Sony sees gamers as its core and is marketed directly for them. Only time will tell if either of their visions captures the attention of their desired market. One thing is for certain I'll own The console that addresses my needs as a gamer, and right now the only company that's looks to address that has already shown me what I needed.
Reborn  +   945d ago
Both companies are seeming to come across with different objectives. It's down to the consumers to decide, once both options are clearly laid out, which is in line with what they believe to be value for money.

Of course, after Sony announcement people are watching what Microsoft do. On the flip side, you could also argue that Sony has already captured people by going first. Especially with the rumours, they are going to look for answers/clarification.

Either way, it's going to be interesting to see what MS is doing for next gen.
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BrianC6234  +   945d ago
Yawn. Of course it did. Stop lying. Microsoft had to scramble to make some changes. They can't let Sony be a lot more powerful. Don't lie Microsoft.
ThatsGaming  +   945d ago
What did Sony really bring to the announcement? A bunch of graphical models, stupid social features, commitments that developers are doing stuff, and the announcement of a bunch of games. Only a few of which will be available for the holidays, and even fewer will be exclusives.

Don't get me wrong, I expect much the same from MS. Nice graphic models, more stupid social features, commitments from developers, and a bunch of games. Only a few of which for the holidays and fewer exclusives.

Where MS might outshine Sony's press conference is on the Kinect and media side. Sony didn't really talk about Move or media capabilities. Also, MS has centered a lot of their 360 world around Live. I expect them to show how much better Live will be going forward.
smashcrashbash  +   945d ago
Very nice. Say bad stuff about Sony's announcement and then jump to say that you think the same thing about Microsoft then continue by saying that you think Microsoft will outshine Sony's conference.Your attempt to escape from disagrees is very transparent.By your statement you are obviously on Microsoft' side with a pathetic attempt to stave off disagrees from you saying bad things about Sony's announcement. Very sneaky.If your attempt was to stay neutral you failed miserably.You should have stopped at 'Don't get me wrong, I expect much the same from MS. Nice graphic models, more stupid social features, commitments from developers, and a bunch of games. Only a few of which for the holidays and fewer exclusives'.
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Salooh  +   945d ago
You are a motion controller fan. Or just trolling. Kinect-.-
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ThatsGaming  +   945d ago

I was just stating that MS "MIGHT" outshine Sony's conference by those items. Sony left an opening there. But, that definitely won't sway gamers. It will only help cash-strapped, gamers that need the console to do more to justify its cost.


Kinect is something that MS has been more successful at on the casual side than sony. Personally, outside of a few titles, Kinect isn't great. And those titles are not great. But, it does do very well for certain types of casual games (Dance, rail shooters, and some sports).
BlackCarrot  +   945d ago
Was the 360 or the PS3 announced first?
The answer to my title: I don't have a fucking clue, it was ages ago, and in the long run perhaps it won't make any odds.

However, announcing PS4 first has, in my humble consumer's opinion, shown that Sony is quite confident in what they do. Sony are the ones who got me hyped for the next-gen, Sony are the ones who have got their stuff out in the open.

Now we just have to wait and see what Microsoft has to offer, I'm sure it won't be too different (always online would cost MS a lot of sales); the big question has always been a simple one if we're honest with ourselves: which one will be cheaper?
NateCole  +   945d ago
it didnt have to.The impact was on the gamers and developers which is more important.
Sarobi  +   945d ago
I'm sure it wouldn't, being as Sony and Microsoft have different visions of the future of gaming.
d4sholil1  +   945d ago
In looking at oligopolies, consisting of Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony in the console industry, these guys watch each other like hawks. With that said everything they do has an impact on the other company!
True_Samurai  +   945d ago
Killzone: Liberation
Killzone: Mercenary
Killzone 2
Killzone 3
Killzone: Shadow Fall
This gen or not there's still been a good bit of kill zone there will most like be a vita version :-p
Foxhound922  +   945d ago
Your point? Lol I guess handhelds count as consoles now. This is a ps3/360 discussion, hence why he was comparing the two. Two kz games on ps3, and 5 halo games this gen on the 360. Also, Sony has a bunch of exclusives to diversify their gaming portfolio, that's the other point he was trying to make.
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Max-Zorin  +   945d ago
I see the Sony and MS fanboys haven't killed each other yet.
ErzaScarlet  +   945d ago
Now, it is safe to say that the next gen war has already started. They are now comparing the reveal of PS4 t the upcoming X720 unveiling.. Interesting
imahustla19  +   945d ago
this is kinda hard to believe since the new xbox control is said to have a touchpad now.clickable even lol.
mochachino  +   945d ago
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2pacalypsenow  +   945d ago
"Microsoft operates at its own pace" I think they mean at Apples pace since they are trying to copy everything from them and saying its theirs . And ruining windows 8
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ufo8mycat  +   945d ago
Microsoft need to WATCH OUT.

Despite the success they had with the 360 and how poorly the PS3 start + pricepoint, the PS3 STILL managed to outsell it during the end of this generation.

Sony are going FULL THROTTLE with the PS4 though.

Microsoft WATCH OUT
strickers  +   945d ago
I listen to a lot of podcasts and most media were being told late April and it was put back a month. No smoke without fire case, I believe.
Yet ps4 announcement had no effect ??
strickers  +   945d ago
This idea that MS ONLY have to respond to the reveal is also wrong. Sony have only lifted the skirt of ps4. You know most of what's there but still stuff to reveal and potential surprises held back.
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