Submitted by clintagious650 863d ago | article

Microsoft hasn't lost touch with indies insists XBLA dev

"It's a huge organisation, and they might be slow but they're definitely heading in the right direction."

By Martin Robinson

Microsoft's relationship with indie studios remains strong, the developers of forthcoming XBLA title Max: The Curse of Brotherhood have insisted - and while it might seem that the platform holder is losing its grip on indie gaming as Sony attracts more and more developers to PlayStation, there's plenty going on behind the scenes to ensure that won't be the case come the next generation.

"It's something we have a hard time relating to," Press Play's lead designer Mikkel Thorsted told Eurogamer when asked about the common consensus that PlayStation's becoming the more attractive platform for indies.

"I think people are wrong if they don't think Microsoft are looking into that, and trying to do what they can to adjust to how the market is changing. Of course they are, and it's actually also visible if you look at XBLA - there are free-to-play games, and there are more and more updates. (Arcade, Industry, Microsoft, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Arai  +   863d ago
Press Play's a Microsoft first party studio...so take it with a grain of salt.

They might be telling the truth, but lets hear something positive from an independant studio first before we declare that indies are back on Microsoft's bandwagon.
M2-  +   863d ago
At least 2 other indie developers have already spoken positively about their experience with MS and XBLA.

Ska Studios (The Dishwasher)
"When one indie says they're never working with Microsoft again, the gaming public becomes curious as to whether this is an isolated incident, or part of some sort of ugly truth," he said. "And pretty soon everyone wants to know if I've just been secretly hiding my experience with the ugly truth, or if I'll be moving to PS4 because of the ugly truth, when, in fact, this perceived ugly truth is nothing more than 4 or 5 data points.

My experience is and always has been 'everything's fine', but, again, that's not exactly newsworthy. Nothing is more delicious than that ugly truth."

The Behemoth (Castle Crashers)
"We have absolutely no problem with Microsoft or the XBLA team," he said. "We love working with them, and hopefully they enjoy working with us as well. I can’t speak for other devs that may have bad mouthed Microsoft in the past, but that’s definitely not the company that we are."
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Why o why  +   863d ago
Loved the dishwasher...quality.

In regards to this topic I think it's important to note that its not impossible for devs to have good or crap experiences with any of the console manufacturers. Nothing in this industry is absolute.
nukeitall  +   863d ago
MS is the only one that really has true indie developers.

Where else can you self-publish a game for less than $100 on consoles and EVEN get the tools for free?

It certainly isn't available on Playstation or Wii without spending thousands of dollars, and that's assuming they will even sell a dev kit to you.

The whiners on MS are usually the lazy devs that aren't used to developing on closed platforms or understand the reasoning behind it.

It's also the ones that are upset, MS isn't marketing their games "better", but that is why it is "indie" and "self-publish". Don't bite the hand that feeds.
ApolloTheBoss  +   863d ago
Of course they haven't. I mean after all if he badmouths M$ they'll fire him.
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Jek_Porkins  +   863d ago
Finally getting a lot of positive Microsoft game press, this isn't the first indie to come to the defense of Microsoft.

Let's bring on May 21st and see what happens! Game on!
majiebeast  +   863d ago
Pizzahut app 2.0, KFC app.

So first party dev says something good about his employer im shocked... This is like Infamous devs saying that the game was only possible on ps3.
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Jek_Porkins  +   863d ago
Wait, when Gorilla Games says the PS4 is awesome and has no bottlenecks it was flooded with every Sony fan on this site, even though it should be more then obvious a Sony owned developer would never say otherwise.

Keep trolling, but the amount of trolling I've already seen today on all the Xbox news just tells me there are a ton of insecure Sony fans that are worried that the next Xbox might not be the "used game blocking, DRM having, non backwards compatibility" machine they were deeply hoping for.

So when we get good news it gets spammed by idiots like you who have nothing better to do, and you fear that Sony's and Microsoft next consoles will be on pretty even ground. I'd just suggest finding an outlet or playing some games to get rid of some of that anger kiddo.
majiebeast  +   863d ago
You sound butthurt cant handle the truth? Also its Guerrilla atleast spell their name right 360 fan.
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amiga-man  +   863d ago
The xbox i'm deeply hoping for is one that doesn't hold your online access to ransom,

can't see it happening though, Oh well PS4 it is then.
maniacmayhem  +   863d ago
Jek had a point that you just seemed to gloss over. The same thing was done for Guerrilla Games why is this different.
thechosenone  +   863d ago
2....2 indie developers have come out in defense/support of MS in the last couple of months, meanwhile some of the most brilliant indie devs have made their titles exclusive to PS3/PS4...and that s**t says a lot more than some BS PR article.
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Pozzle  +   863d ago
I'd be interested in hearing what some indie devs have to say on the matter, tbh. Do THEY feel like Microsoft has kept/lost touch with them? Or is it all hyperbole from the PR team?

Why don't more sites interview indies about things like this?
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maniacmayhem  +   863d ago
There has been a lot of positives with MS Indie games and new Indie games continue to appear on XBL despite the many articles from the same devs saying that MS lost touch.

Like the article states, they have provided many types of games and it doesn't look like XBLA is slowing down. Especially if the rumor of the Xbox Mini is true they would want to keep more content going for DL.
Dee_Cazo  +   863d ago
I've talked to a lot of the indies at PAX East. A lot have a hard time getting Microsoft's attention to get on XBLA, but it is because of this that it is becoming like Apple Appstore or Steam.

They are making sure each game on XBLA is of the higher-end quality as it helps out both Microsoft and the indie company. If people are accustomed to always getting good games on the XBLA, they are more proned to trust/buy games more frequently on there. Making them both more money.

Sucks that some indie companies have great games and need to work a little harder but reaching XBLA is like a prestigious thing because of it.

Also if this has anything to do with the Braid guy, this whole argument is dismissed, he is more biased than a Sony employee themselves.
GraveLord  +   863d ago
Yes they have. You can't call yourself and indie developer if you are owned by Microsoft. Damage control much?

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