In the latest instalment of his Gaming Fail series, Paul Izod takes on his biggest challenge yet: Final Fantasy XIII-2.
all I got to say is xbox 360 killed the game was short less CGI all because to fit on a dvd rom this game(yes i might be wrong but it what's I think). I even found 13-1 better had a longer story loads of CGI. when the next FF game on both consoles (ps4 and xbox 720) I hope they both have blu ray rom disc and make a good long game with loads of CGI like 13-1
No Lightning,Summons or people to recruit & yes it was short,FF-XIII was better & all that was needed.
FFXIII was far, far less than was needed... it was a game with massive potential hideously botched, as was its sequel...
I used to like final fantasy franchise, then Lightning kicked me in the knee, (Runs away from the angry hordes)
Square/Wada killed the game by overextending resources and underestimating their ability to understand HD architecture. For either the PS3 or 360. DVD on the 360 was just an added hindrance which was supposedly made up for on 13-2.
change Wada for Toriyama and then I agree wit you. The "overextending resources" is actually one of the good qualities of Wada but he was putting too much faith on the wrong people, in this case, Toriyama.
Xbox 360 killed it? no sir, terrible storytelling, poor environmental design and extremely over-ambitious and high-concept battle changes killed it
how can you kill something that is already dead?
I liked XIII-2 a lot more than XIII. It's combat was much more open and for the most part I had fun collecting all the fragments. The story was awful but I would not consider it a gaming fail.
this game wasn't suppose to exist..the ending in FF13 was a closed ending..square just pulled this out of their ass..
Just like they did with 10-2. *facepalm* They'll never learn.
Actually...FFX ending allowed for FFX-2 to be made. At the end of the credits of FFX or any Final Fantasy for the matter except 13, they usually show an extra scene and in FFXs case they showed Tidus swimming up. Which showed he was alive, when the ending showed him dying. unfortunately I don't remember FFX-2 actually answering why hes alive..
That's what I meant. X-2 crapped all over the fantastic ending of X. It would have been better if they left it as-is.
I liked XII-2 better than the first but for the life of me why didn't they include recruiting actual members to your party? What were they thinking using monsters only? Seriously, part of the whole fun with FF and damn near every RPG in the history of RPG's has this one design feature of recruiting members to your party. To remove this in favor of a Pokemon like fight is baffling.
FF13-2 was in improvement over FF13. Gone were those horrible hallways and annoying characters (Snow and Hope being the most annoying), in were better developed characters. You get an idea of what each is fighting for. The story was EXTREMELY forced. Lighting getting called upon by a GOD at the end of ff13? Completely out of no where! What I did Like about FF13-2 was the combat, the music, and the stages. Getting straight to the end took about 20 hours, but there was a lot of side stuff to do and a lot of stuff to unlock. What really destroyed the game for me was that Square pretty much sold off the ending to FF13-2. This turned a great game into a terrible one. Same goes for Asura's Wrath. That game was great...until I found out that I have to pay Capcom to give me an unlock code to REALLY finish the story. The standard "real" ending wouldn't been great for a sequel. Selling the REAL real ending was just dumb and greedy on their part. I'm not excited for FF13-3, but I'll still play it. Can't say a game sucks when you haven't played it yourself, right?
Urgh, people have got to realise that stuff like this contributes to and forms preconceptions of the game that you carry to it when you play it. Then, when you're playing it, you force it to be shit (or, a "fail") in your mind- force it to confirm your preconceptions and received ideas about it. Part of it is just a weird form of peer pressure. XIII and XIII-2 are both good games. They're radically different to previous Final Fantasy games, but they're FAR from being without merit. The visual design, the graphics, the music, the voicework- they're all top notch. Obviously the gameplay is highly contentious but a lot of people, including myself, enjoyed it a lot in both the games. You've just got to have an open-mind. That's not to say we should just lap up whatever they try to sell us, but at the end of the day, if you don't like it, don't buy it. They'll never be my favourite FF games, but they'll certainly stay positively in my memory. I'll probably play them again some day. Anyway, looking forward to Lightning Returns, not to mention Versus XIII.
then good for you that could enjoy it but I beat the first one (just for the trophies and because I already paid for it) and thought it was one of the worst games I played all gen. Total waste of $60. The only good thing about it was the graphics and even then the world was like "look but don't touch" because of how limited it was.
The voice work was good?? Really??
I want to say I don't care about FF anymore, but the fact that I still click on FF articles proves that a tiny part of me still does. I actually got FFXIII-2 for free, because I had rewards that were about to expire, and there was nothing else that I wanted in stock. I played it for less then an 1/2 hour, because I simply could not get into it, put it away and have not touched it since. FFXIII was bad, this game was worse. While I respect that some gamers liked it, I honestly don't get the attraction. I can't help but feel that the smart thing would be to fire half of the FF team and start over from scratch with a brand new IP. The FF name used to mean something, it used to stand for quality and epic gameplay, but now it brings to mind a company that has lost its way.
Wasn't a fail. It was a beauty
Is Lightning as bad of a character as people say? I play as her a lot in Dissida 012 and from her story segments shes seems like an good character.
I predict that 13-3 will be even worse. Hell, it's an action RPG, so I can't even bring myself to consider it a main-line Final Fantasy.
FF XII-2 is what FF XIII was suppose to be from the very beginning. I had more fun playing the sequel than i did the original game cause near the end grinding many hours just to get materials for the better weapons was a hassle & JUST NOT FUN. When you have to spend on average 15 mins to kill a normal enemy....yeah not fun. Although the story for both games were subpar cause Toriyama is not a good story teller. I play Final Fantasy for the story first & foremost, for these 2 games i just didn't care for it. When you have to read about the story in menus than you know something is wrong with the narrative. Final Fantasy XIII-3 is the first game in the series that I'm not that excited for. I don't like the direction the series is headed with Toriyama at the helm....he thinks he is a good director & writer but he's just not. No idea why Kitase promoted him over someone like Nomura or Tabata.
At least FFX-2 even FFXII: WoR had good endings but FFXIII-2 had one of the most disappointing endings I have ever seen. Not to mention it felt like a stop-gap game for the next sequel that added insult to injury.
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