Sony’s next piece of hardware maybe leaps and bounds ahead of its predecessor but for Naughty Dog there’s still untapped potential left in the PS3.
*Looks at TLOU*Yup.
i believe in them, they know best
I believe in the specs and they are laughable today
Thank you Naughty Dog, Thank you Sony.
ps3 having games looking like crap to Last of us ps3 having games looking like crap to Beyond Two Souls, play beyond
My brain is asploded. Don't do drugs, kids, and Stay in School.
my reaction after reading your brain farting post http://images.wikia.com/unc...
Me fail english? That's unpossible!
earth having people looking crap like you
not sure, but I think that he's actually trying to say something good about the games
Not crap. Mediocre to good at best.
i like naughty dog.
ND r good developers uncharted is just the best game of the ps3
Both have great exclusives, got my Uncharted, Infamous, LBP, MGS, Heavy Rain, and so many other exclusives for my ps3. Then got my PC for basically genres that dont work on consoles, League of Legends consumes more of my time then any game ever, plus all the rts games I play on pc, and of course MMO games. Both have great indie exclusives as well.
When your preferred doesn't have.....HATE, ain't that right irishguy;) I'm sure there's a bit of juice left in the ps3... Imagine what these same devs can do on the ps4. Even the console that was easier to develop on had a hard time pushing out games with such fidelity. To be fair though thats probably down to talent. Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Gorilla Games and the likes could probably do wonders on the 360.....too bad they don't have the same amount of high calibre devs imo. Wow, even thekayle's giving props...bizzaro
PS3: Naughty Dog is still an “Exceptional dev for me”
CD Projekt Red and Naughty Dog are the best dev for me. After them, comes Rockstar.
naughty dog is one of the reasons why i'll choose ps3 over xbox anyday!
Well obviously it's still good, The Last Of Us looks great, and some of the other games coming out on PS3 all look amazing as well. Six years isn't really THAT long to be honest, especially when you consider how great games are looking that come out now.
makes you Wonder What these guys could achieve with a ps4 ! *judders*
Of course.. PlayStation fans will be playing PS3 for many years to come. :) Having said that.. for most people, it's out with the old.. in with the new, PS4.. except for collectors who like to own every gaming console/handheld known to man & kids who can't afford the next-gen consoles due to having no job or their parents won't buy it for them.. so they'll instead stick with their old dusty PS3 until PS4 eventually goes down & price & their parents finally cave in & purchase a system.
The PS3 is alien technology that we can never max out
the next gen graphical leap(ps4, 720) is not as significant as from SD to HD or ps1 to ps2, yes the "technical" difference on paper between ps3 to ps4 is bigger than ps2 to ps3 but we have sort of hit a wall, if u played gta 3 or any N64 or ps1 game today, it's outdated but if u play The Last Of Us after 50 years, it's still considered REALISTIC, that been said my point is to focus on level design, atmosphere and narrative (which naughty dog excels at) more than spending millions of $$$ on gfx which in the end will look marginally better
In 50 years, that's kind of a lame prediction. By then I'm hoping for holodeck technology, which would obviously make the current mode of looking at screens, seem very unrealistic.
forget about the 50 years, argue my point
You really don't even have a point. Just future predictions involving 50 years from now, spending millions of dollars on a graphics card (have yet to see a million dollar gpu), and claiming that the ps4 wont be a significant upgrade when we have no idea, since games for it and the system hasn't even been released yet. I feel the ps4 will be an even bigger upgrade than previous generations due to ram, multiplatform development, and very robust new software graphic engines. Not too mention the new things to do with that new touch controller.
Sure, for a seven years old hardware but keep in mind that whatever you can achieve optimalising your code for it, you can achieve twenty times more optimising your code for current high end hardware.
in before the "infamous "ND hater arrive.
Ohhh God, the Ps3 still has untapped potential?....you guys have been saying that for 6 years now!
I remember when I thought uc3 maxed out the PS3 and now they are makinh another leap with tlou
Maybe because its true? Games over the past 6 years have not only looked better year after year but added more features and sophisticated AI. Even with the PS3's RAM limitations.
In related news, when a recent apple growing farmer was asked which is the best fruit ever, it surprised everyone when he responded: "apples".
So does he like apples because he grows them, or does he grow them because he likes them?
Neither, he's a farmer. He just grows what will make him the most money to feed his family.
Thanks for the twilight zone comments...
So why isn't he growing corn?
ND is a great first party studio and they are clearly proficiant with the ps3 architecture, however I wish they would lend their skills out to all the third parties that seem to have trouble with the ps3 so we wouldnt get so many poorly ported games on this hardware that supposedly still has room for improvements.
ND isn't just going to lend their dev skills out of the goodness of their hearts. If it's like any other business, they've recruited, poached and pay high salaries to keep top notch staff at their company. Or another example would be that, an nfl team isn't just going to lend out some of their players or their playbook to another team just to be nice.
Oh I understand that completely, im not saying give away all your secrets or anything, but take the whole skyrim problem, it would have been great if sony could have called in some first party talent to help them get thier shit together so the consumer isnt the one getting screwed. Businesses can help one another to better the overall community and still be in competition. Im a mechanic by trade, ive invested thousands of dollars in tools and years of training and experience, but when the shop down the street's owner comes by to pick my brain or borrow a tool in a pinch I don't tell him to hire a real mechanic with better tools, I help him out if I can because one day I might need his help too. You scratch my back , I scratch yours. Just because hes direct competition doesn't mean you cant have a healthy business relationship.
With next gens shadow looming over us all, alot of people, gamers and devs are ready to move on. But until other devs meet Naughty Dogs graphical level and The Last of us is the norm not the pinnacle, theres still lots of room for devs to improve. There's no reason why PS3 can't be pushed even harder or for devs to fear that the hardware is "maxed out".
Wait so this game is running on 512mb of ram !
They are saying in ps4, even if a game used all the 8GB of GDDR5 ram it still can bring better games with less ram. It's not about specs. Specs only help and evolve the gaming. It's developers who use their minds to put what they want. It's their visions. Mario is still better then most of 2D games out there, There are better games in ps2 then ps3. Specs is not everything. Crysis 3 can use 8gb of ram even before ps4 released but when it's released you will see much much better looking games on ps4.
Can't wait to play last of us. Can't wait to see what they bring to PS4. Last of us 2, or uncharted 4, or even a new IP... I'm down with whatever ND brings to the ps4 table. They are great at what they do
Why do we need nextgen? the PS3 still have so much untapped power... I mean potential. After 6 years I honestly think PS3 has reached if plateau.
Don't fool your self. AFter 6 months from now you will change your mind just like when ps4 announced most people in N4G changed their minds about not needing the ps4. When you see what it's capable of you will sell the ps3 too lol. Well, any smart gamer would buy next generation consoles because we will get better games in every aspect. So i don't think you will stay in ps3 if you have the money...
Console-only games haven't even seen games in 1080p, when it's the bare minimum on PC for years
PS4/xbox720 (as far as hardware is concerned) will be major improvement over current gen. However, I keep asking myself a question: "Will developers take advantage of new hardware features and bring games to new level? because more detailed video games will require even bigger $$$ investment in games and bigger Crews" what you people think?
Well that's obvious lol. A lot of people knew that well Sony dev's. Multi dev's are kind of sort of lazy compared to Sony only dev's....well most of them are. My ps3 will be the first system that won't get packed away in the closet when ps4 comes out. Besides it still plays blu-rays lol. Also I still have some trophies to get and a backlog that I will most likely not finish by PS4 release.
Agreed, but you know inside they dev team is all like, "praise BUDDHA/JEUSUS/YAHWEH/et cetera for the PS4!"
Playstation is a great piece of hardware with middle software whhat pisses me off about th playstation is not only is the os generic but compare it to xbl and it is total trash u cant even go online and send ur friends messages or nothing like that. The new ps4 os looks very promising though and i hope playstation.com get a overhaul because not being able to go to playstation.com and check on friends and interact with my console is a complete joke its 2013
People might be surpised to see the PS4 not sell so well and it's not because the PS4 isn't any good or whatever, it's because the PS3 will be it's toughest competition. Sony will essentially be competiting with itself. The PS3 has just picked up some incredible momentum these past few years and its already a very capable graphical powerhouse in my opinion. Sony has already announced they have no intention of phasing out the PS3. So people may be complacent with the PS3 and not want to be early adopters of the PS4.
when i first got my ps3 i thought how can this be improved upon? I still feel anything more will be only marginal increase in tech and enjoyment. To me ps3 is the perfect graphics sound system for games. I think sony way back expected to support ps3 for many many years decades even.
Totally agree with what Naughty Dog are saying, Even though the 360 has been my preferred choice this gen the PS3 does seriously have some untapped potential and its all down to the mysterious cell chip!!! oooooohhhhhhhhhhh :D
I think some developers (mainly the ones like ND that have mastered the ps3 so wonderfully) are going to miss the unique architecture of the ps3. Yes it may have caused them headaches in the beginning of development cycles but once they broke through the wall and gained access to all the potential they realised what a fantastic system it actually is to develop for. I may even go as far to say that some may be a tad disappointed that Sony have opted for off the shelf parts opposed to custom built hardware, even though it was a fundamentally sound business and financial decision.
Sony's engineers and Mark Cerny would say otherwise, after all the PS3 had just launch and the engineering team were already going behind the scenes talking to devs indirectly about the PS4 saying the Cell was a mistake. ND praises the PS3 in interviews yet they were first to point out what a disaster the Cell is and was. I'd advise those with an open mind to not comment on this site due to the rabbid Sony fanboys that run it, your voice won't heard. . . . . . @mike32UK: Miss this architecture? ND were the first to ask for the change due to how poorly thought out the Cell was, the people on this site know absolutely nothing. "even though it was a fundamentally sound business and financial decision." My god! the ignorance is astounding, they were losing money and losing devs, the architecture in the PS4 isn't just easier it far exceeds anything the PS3 could do, it was best choice in hardware from an ENGINEERS and DEVELOPERS point of view. Everyone who took part in the production of the Cell ditched it go figure.
How is that ignorance you fool. I have been on n4g for years and this is the first time I have ever felt the need to reply to some idiot's comment. I don't get involved in fanboy crap, or rabbid flame wars. I think your bubbles or lack thereof speaks volumes. It makes financial sense because Sony aren't in the best position as a company right now. In regards to the cell, many developers have said how hard it is to develop for but because it is so complex that is why even now there is still untapped potential. You get out what you put in, this has been shown through many first party developers. 'Ps4 far exceeds anything the ps3 could do'. No shit, thanks for the update captain obvious. Don't try to out smart me again, believe me you will lose.
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