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Xbox 720 Specs to Set Standard for Next-Gen Games

Since Microsoft’s release of the original Xbox they have been a major player in the gaming industry. Microsoft’s presence in the gaming industry along with the Xbox 360 set the standard for games. Now that the next-gen consoles are on the horizon, will that stay the same?

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sherimae24131254d ago

well, it should be... and must be...

FamilyGuy1254d ago (Edited 1254d ago )

More like it'll be setting the "bare-minimum" bar.

Setting your standards based on the lowest common denominator is a bare-minimum and hopefully, with them both having pc architectures, they'll be able to take advantage of the highest quality possible and then down grading to where it's needed to run smooth as the system gets weaker.
Highest quality PC
Drop a few things for PS4
Drop a few more for 720

I look forward to seeing the advantages of what the standardized architecture and lowered OS footprint have for consoles.

AO1JMM1253d ago

"More like it'll be setting the "bare-minimum" bar."

Opinion, learn the definition of.

humbleopinion1253d ago

It's actually the other way round: you don't downgrade for weaker systems, but rather use them as the base point, and then dial up the performance and graphics on stronger systems (if at all).

If you aim for a higher benchmark first, the game might not work very well on the weaker hardware.
Take a look for example at this gen where many open world games targeting the X360 first struggled with the PS3 split memory (for example, rockstar games), whereas games targeting the PS3 first (for example, the Criterion games) didn't have that problem and managed to get both versions on par.

r1sh121253d ago

1 OMG these top spec PC people need to move on.
Gaming PCs cost significantly more.

2 Even though specs have been leaked, we have to wait for MS to confirm them.
There could be some changes, like the last minute change to wireless controllers on the 360.

kreate1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

Microsoft have a strong policy on multiplatform games.

Games on the xbox needs to release the same, be identical, or be the better version than competing platforms version w extra content or features or Microsoft will reject ur game if they want.

So even if ps4 is this awesome gaming machine, most games might be at the same standard as the nextxbox and only exclusive games will have a chance to push the ps4's boundaries.

AO1JMM1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

It IS an opinion piece people.

Also, MS has not announced a damn thing so all of your opinions are based off of rumors.

So FAIL harder!

DatNJDom811253d ago

"Since Microsoft’s release of the original Xbox they have been a major player in the gaming industry. Microsoft’s presence in the gaming industry along with the Xbox 360 set the standard for games. Now that the next-gen consoles are on the horizon, will that stay the same?"

These guys must have started gaming this gen. Even then he must have only owned an xbox. What a joke.

UnholyLight1253d ago

@AO1JMM I agree 100% with you on both comments. It just shows how dumb people can be when there hasn't been a shred of anything confirmed for sure yet.

It just shows how much of a brainwashed fanboy you are saying PS4 is the be-all-end-all of consoles. Pure idiocy, funny how so many people are so quick to come to conclusions and agree with each other over nothing more than pure speculation and opinion.

I LOOK FORWARD TO BOTH SYSTEMS, at this time I am 100% buying a PS4 day 1 I cant wait :D

afterMoth1253d ago

"Microsoft’s presence in the gaming industry along with the Xbox 360 set the standard for games."

LOL! Only thing the 360 set is how to charge people double to use things like Netflix along with creating the most defective console in video game history.

Lets just write an article and pretend a far superior console like the PS3 doesn't exist. Great job author!

Zeusprototype1253d ago

based this on what, learn to communicate ur bs opin as anything other then fact.

Zeusprototype1253d ago

@ aftermoth you lose your opinion sounding nothing but a fanboy . oh look the ps3 is so great i carnt pull it from my arse. keeping convincing your self you dont get mugged off in other ways....look mircrosoft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i pay for free games!!!!!!!!!! moron.

2pacalypsenow1253d ago

Im sorry but the Next gen starts with consoles no one says next gen on Pc

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

MS doesn't respect hardcore gamers enough.

I hope pc lead the most.

SideShort1253d ago

LOL. And I got restricted from commenting for two days because I called N4G pro-sony..

nukeitall1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

@humbleopinion:
"It's actually the other way round: you don't downgrade for weaker systems, but rather use them as the base point, and then dial up the performance and graphics on stronger systems (if at all)."

In and ideal world, yes. Turns out, that couldn't be further from the truth. In a limited environment like consoles, you really have little choice in dialing up performance like you do on PC. All resources on consoles has to be carefully managed and optimized.

Thus there is very little dialing up, and more about optimizing ones work to fit the small footprint.

"If you aim for a higher benchmark first, the game might not work very well on the weaker hardware.
Take a look for example at this gen where many open world games targeting the X360 first struggled with the PS3 split memory (for example, rockstar games), whereas games targeting the PS3 first (for example, the Criterion games) didn't have that problem and managed to get both versions on par."

This is a case of targetting the lowest common denominator. An open world game requires a lot of RAM to contain as much as possible of the game world. Therefore having a shared memory architecture gives you excellent performance as well as less bottlenecking at the bus transferring data. Rage for instance is an excellent example of this, where on the PS3 it was having frame rate issues as well as major popping compared to the Xbox 360 version. Of course PC had best performance, but that is to be expected.

The anemic performance of the PS3 was due to an unbalanced system limited by memory. The PS4 seems to be completely opposite, where the CPU/GPU appears to be too slow to keep up with the amount of data. I guess having too much RAM doesn't really hurt and only serves to raise the cost and limit production capacity. Also, the latency could be an issue due to GDDR5 and be less multi-taskable.

@2pacalypsenow:

"Im sorry but the Next gen starts with consoles no one says next gen on Pc"

Hopefully without sounding like a PC fanboy (I'm not, I like consoles more), but PC is *always* next-generation.

We already have PCs that can surpass next-gen consoles before they are released!

Even next-gen consoles are built around PCs!

Christopher1252d ago

***It's actually the other way round: you don't downgrade for weaker systems, but rather use them as the base point, and then dial up the performance and graphics on stronger systems (if at all). ***

None of that is true. You program to the lowest common denominator. Only thing that will change this is money from a publisher.

humbleopinion1252d ago

@nukeitall
"In a limited environment like consoles, you really have little choice in dialing up performance like you do on PC."
But that's the whole point, didn't you get it? You use the weaker console as a basepoint, push the stronger console a bit more (tweaking up a few things) assuming you don't care about console parity, and on the PC you let people dial it up however they wish - as long as their individual hardware can support it. If you do it the other way round, you might realize at some point that the game just can't be accomplished on the weakest platform. Even the examples you gave agree with that notion, so what are we arguing about?

@cgoodno
"None of that is true. You program to the lowest common denominator. Only thing that will change this is money from a publisher."
Again: that is EXACTLY what I was saying. Except perhaps for the addition of the world SHOULD: you SHOULD program to the lowest common denominator (as a baseline), but some developers don't follow that practice and that's why their games struggle on the weaker platform.

SkyGamer1250d ago

How can ps4 be a powerful machine when it is running laptop specs! Cmon people and smell the coffee! Don't let gaming companies do that to you!

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j-blaze1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

agreed, they should learn from PS4 and make a better console with better specs if the want to compete and i think that's what they are doing now, you'll get tons of disagrees, but don't mind them, remember, this is n4g ~

Bathyj1253d ago

I actually agree with you too. I think Ms had to go rethink a few things after the Ps4 reveal and that's why they are so quiet. Of all the things Ms has been before quiet is not one that springs to mind.

And I have no problem with any of that. I'm glad they are sorting things on Before launch this time instead of rushing it out

JoGam1253d ago

Technically speaking, The PS4 already set the standard. It was revealed first. MS will just have to try and top it.

My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante1253d ago

No, the Wii U was revealed first.

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HammadTheBeast1253d ago

Yeah, but PS4 broke any bar that the Wii U set.

ArmrdChaos1253d ago

None of these companies have set jack until said item is connected to my TV and showing me they have done it.

Tito081253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

@My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante- Yeah unhuh, & your name by the way is Dante.

UnholyLight1252d ago

This is such a silly statement. All they did was acknowledge the PS4 is happening and reveal a bunch of specs and show demos.

How the hell does that mean "They set the standard". It's a reveal for god's sake. That's all it means, "ERMAGERD Sony unveiled first therefore Sony is King!!!" Yeah, sounds pretty dumb doesn't it? Your logic is flawed.

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Maddens Raiders1253d ago

It set the "standard" for the current gen. However I like to play b3yond the standard.

BattleAxe1253d ago

Sony is the standard, get over it. Next Gen starts when Sony releases the PS4.

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andibandit1252d ago

The only standard sony is setting right now is in how to loose money

Condemnedman1252d ago

yes it set the standard this gen . the standard of losing lots of customers!

UnholyLight1252d ago

Sad thing is I'm getting a PS4 and yet all the comments in response to BattleAxe are fairly true! Lol

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IAmLee1253d ago

... Has the author of this seen the stats for the ps4 yet or?

Ninja_G_Aidan1253d ago

I like this because it's a complete Troll and everybody is falling for it!

Dee_Cazo1253d ago

How dare you post 7 words that disagree with the people who spend all day on here, instead of playing the playstation they incessantly defend!

Divine1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

First of all even with the current rumored specs or watever out for 720. the ps4 still surpasses it. and thats idiotic to say all of us gamers want the lowest quality . multiplatform games would look way better if 360 was up to ps4 graphics . ........

"this article was sooo stupid lol im just now really thinking about it. lol."

Galaxy_Legend1252d ago

Yeah obviously...because the PS4 games are gonna be above standard. :).

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DarkBlood1254d ago

after the 360 issue with multiplatform i dont think so, it should be the otherway around now.

xPhearR3dx1254d ago

360 issues with multiplatform games? I think you're thinking of the PS3.

Knight_Crawler1253d ago

Go home DerpBlood, you are drunk.

Chris5581253d ago

Lememe so funnyh ahahhjdjhncm

DarkBlood1253d ago

game disc memory you assholes lol

JeffGUNZ1252d ago

What? Multiplats were known to look and run smoother on the 360. Stop gasping for straws here.

DarkBlood1252d ago

multiplatform games potientally being bigger then they are but werent because of limited gigs which im pretty sure is not grasping for straws.

but hey at least micro got the 25 gb disc thing down so thats something.

DaThreats1254d ago

Ummm, it's way past April Fools

NastyLeftHook01254d ago

this article went full retard.

and why use the last of us pic for a 720 game? they could not even get that right?

hey genious! the last of us is a ps3 exclusive! XD.

Cam9771253d ago

It must imply that the author thinks the next Xbox will have graphics on-par with the PS3.
Hahaha.

Sandmano1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

I was just going to come on here and say why did they put a TLOU pic in the article? Makes no sence. I think he's making it out to be that their looking at the Xbox logo with uncertainty, lol.

@cam977 lmao!! +Bubbles

AngelicIceDiamond1253d ago

I think it means A AAA Sony exclusives VS the entire Ecosystem of Xbox as a whole.

I'm saying its true but that's what it looks like.

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Walker1254d ago (Edited 1254d ago )

And PlayStation 4 specs is Beyond Standard for Next-Gen Games !

specialguest1253d ago

Yet not even the talented developer GG can produce the standard 1080p/60fps. I wouldn't call it Beyond Standard.

madjedi1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

And yet neither could bungie(not even 720p at times) or 343 industries nor epic with gears of war. Does that suddenly turn them into subpar devs. They can't magically give the system more power than it really has through clever optimization.

Do you want a barren wasteland at 1080p @60 fps or a immersive lively world at 720p, with both these systems that is the reality.

720p or 1080p on console it all depends on the developers vision for the game. Both systems have 1080p games just very few.

Saying 1080p and 60fps is a standard is bullshit, it might be a minimum standard many pc gamers will tolerate but it isn't a industry standard(unless your referring to tvs). I will accept the next standard for the systems to reach/aim for, but that is it.

Console owners don't have the option of putting a new $200-300 graphics card in and brute forcing our way to 1080p+ and 60+fps.

Pc's by there nature will always outperform consoles, build a pc to roughly the same specs as a ps3 or 360 and see how well newer games like bioshock infinite ect run.

Standards for hd starts at 720p, 1080p is just another higher tier of hd as well 4k and 8k.

specialguest1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

You're all over the place with what you're trying to state. First of all, i never said devs not being able to achieve a certain level of performance makes them subpar. That's why i stated that the TALENTED GG couldn't even produced the standard 1080p/60fps. This means that the hardware is limited which YOU agree since (as you stated) They can't magically give the system more power.

WALKER stated that the PS4 specs is BEYOND standard for next-gen games which on a hardware level i disagree with. Some people say next gen level of visual performance is already here in the form of current high end pc games, while others claim it'll go beyond it. If they show real gameplay a next gen games that performs like current PC games, then I'll agree with WALKER. However, with the current gameplay that has been shown so far in the form of KZ:SF, it looks amazing, but its limited to 30fps. It proves that the PS4 is in fact not BEYOND standard specs wise. Keyword: beyond

Tr10wn1253d ago

I dont know if you can see the future but i havent seen an announcement of halo 5 and a confirmation that it will not run at [email protected] when it launches but i'm willing to bet it will and if you are talking about old Halos and GoW you are an idiot, they always deliver in the 60fps part they couldn't on the 1080p part because obvious reasons and the new console will probably run the "Standard" by now which is 1080p idk how you came with the conclusion that 720p is the standard in 2013 i mean it was back in 2008 but its a new generation of console and its clearly a 1080p standard, GG screw up they are willing to make a FPS that run at only 30FPS on a new console, it doesnt take a genius to know that you can't play a FPS at those frames at least not reliable.

ApolloTheBoss1253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

LMAO! Explain to me why The Last of Us and Xbox are in the same picture?

Godmars2901253d ago (Edited 1253d ago )

Because we've both yet to see any genuine "next gen" games, and the author's flamebaiting for hits.