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Submitted by burnedsap 548d ago | opinion piece

Gameplay vs Graphics

There used to be a time when the graphics of a game would define how good it was. Every year a new game would be launched with better, more realistic graphics, and everyone knew that there had to be a point where the hardware simply wouldn't be able to cope up. There are computers which can beautifully run those heavy processor intensive games, but the average gamer cannot afford those systems. Even gaming consoles have a limit to which they can play the more graphic oriented titles. (Arcade, Casual games, Dev, EA, Industry, iPad, iPhone, Mobile, Next-Gen, PC)

NastyLeftHook0  +   548d ago
i recently played crysis 3 and can say that they sadly focus more on graphics than gameplay.

the result?

game looks good but i could not get myself to finish it. gameplay is vital. people buy beer to get drunk, not because of the pretty can, same reason people buy normal 'looking' games because of the content.
fluffydelusions  +   548d ago
Pretty much. Graphics are an added bonus but gameplay trumps all
Gaming101  +   548d ago
Exactly. There have been no hugely successful games that had bad gameplay, someone out there must find it fun for it to sell. Angry Birds didn't sell a bazillion copies because of its cutting edge graphics, regardless of your opinion of that game.
ShinMaster  +   548d ago
Crysis 3 is a good example.
Years from now, the thing that brings me back to a game is the gameplay and/or story. Not graphics. Which is why as a console gamer, I don't stress out about graphics as much and find artistic direction much more important IMO. Certain people won't understand that though.
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SilentNegotiator  +   548d ago
Gameplay vs Graphics...the debate that absolutely no one is actually having.

We get one of these "Gameplay vs Graphics" articles every week, and you know what? NO ONE thinks that graphics are ultimately more important. NO ONE older than 5 or without the word "Nintendon't" etched on their brain.
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inveni0  +   547d ago
Yeah. I always try a game with good graphics, just because I love tech. So I even played all the way through Battlefield 3 maxed out on PC, and it was pretty intense. But it wasn't an exceptional game. Just a realistic-feeling one. In an FPS, realistic is great. But it still needs to be perfectly produced. Battlefield 4 is looking to attempt to do that.

(I don't know why I picked an FPS, because I don't really care for FPS games in general.)
Hydrolex  +   547d ago
Mom vs dad
Both are very important
hesido  +   547d ago
Everybody here likes to say that gameplay > graphics, yet there's a lot of disagrees when someone says s/he prefers 60fps over 1080p (former effects gameplay positively helluva lot more than latter.)
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sergons  +   547d ago
I spent last weekend by playing Road Rash 64. Had more fun than playing crysis 3.
starchild  +   547d ago
For me they are both important. If a game has crappy graphics and good gameplay I very well might pass it up in favor of other games that have great graphics AND gameplay.

Graphics help tremendously in creating an immersive atmosphere. There is nothing wrong with wanting both. There are plenty of games that offer them both. I'm sick of this false dichotomy. Great graphics and great gameplay are not mutually exclusive.

Oh, and Crysis 3 is a fun game. I don't know what game you played. Maybe you need something a little more linear and on-rails?
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badz149  +   547d ago
saying graphics vs gameplay
is like saying it's impossible to have both! personally I think that focusing too much on 1 aspect and neglecting the other is wrong and I love game with both great gameplay and graphics!
brich233  +   548d ago
I finished it but it was a drag, for some sections of the game I cloaked right through avoiding firefights, or just completely running away from the firefights. The game was boring.
Muffins1223  +   548d ago
the gameplay in crysis 3 was actually better than call of duty's single player and most other recent fps....
UltraNova  +   548d ago
And then you guys played the Uncharted series and realised that gameplay/graphics are 50/50 prerequisites for a good game!
Mr_Writer85  +   548d ago
The thing is there will be games in a few years that will look better but still won held as high regard as Uncharted.

It's not just the graphics, it's the WAY they use them, it's very cinematic, also the voice acting and animation help.

I believe Uncharted could look uglier then it does now, but would still be held in high regard because everything else is so strong.

Graphics should be the neat and tidy icing on a cake that's baked to perfection. Not hiding a dry and tasteless cake.
Liefx  +   548d ago
Wrong, a lot of it does have to do with branding.
BlackCarrot  +   548d ago
If I bought booze to get drunk, I wouldn't choose beer; I like beer because it tastes great and is refreshing. Okay, the analogy doesn't change but just felt like clearing up.

TO BEER!

Or if I may recreate the analogy: I could pick budweiser because its cheap and it'll get me drunk if I drink enough of it, it has the same effect as Heineken, Becks or Stella but I won't buy it - because it doesn't taste as nice as the European lagers. The enjoyment of the game (beer) is everything.
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FlyingFoxy  +   547d ago
The good thing is Valve make awesome games with the best graphics on release, so you get the best of both worlds.

Can never go wrong with Valve.
TooTall19  +   547d ago
I enjoyed Crysis 3 a lot. It's one of the few games I've recently played start to finish. The graphics are amazing on PC, and the weapons have a decent amount of recoil.
Fru69  +   547d ago
Completely agree about Crysis 3. Am playing through it at the moment and yes, it looks pretty, but the gameplay isn't as exciting as I'd hoped it would be - it's all a bit repetetive.
ChrisW  +   547d ago
"people buy beer to get drunk, not because of the pretty can..."

My friend's father used to drink the white can with only a bold black "BEER" on the side. At about 10 cents a can, it was the absolute cheapest beer one could get in the 80s. But with that in mind, you did get what you pay for. Having a sip of it when I was 10 is what kept me from drinking in general until I turned 21. It was absolutely disgusting... especially since my friend's father drank it warm.

So... bringing your analogy to a full circle, graphics can play a part in the enjoyment of a game. Too little and even if it's fun, one might not enjoy it as much. Too much and people start to nitpick it. Thus if Crysis 3 was a PS2 game, with graphics of the time period, would you be more tolerable of the game play?

(Kinda like Goldilocks' story)
sinjonezp  +   547d ago
Graphics create immersion. The feel of the world you are in. Look at Heavy Rain: the world was feel and you felt apart of that world. I do believe gameplay ultimatel matters, but without a deep, interesting world, why would one want go look at it? Think of a beautiful woman compared to one that is not so attractive. Which one would you want to immerse yourself with first? Even though that one that is not sk attractive may be a lot better in all regards.
Qrphe  +   548d ago
Because we all know all there is to graphics are polygons and nothing but polygons

>frequent trips to 9Gag

I stopped reading the article at that part
Donnieboi  +   548d ago
Article says: "There used to be a time when the graphics of a game would define how good it was"

I say: WHEN was this?!
fluffydelusions  +   548d ago
In my experience back in the 8/16 bit era most of the better looking games were in fact better
cyguration  +   548d ago
So you mean to tell me Timecop's "good" graphics on the SNES made it a better game than Ninja on the NES?
user7693958  +   548d ago
in a parallel Universe, in where Crytek where winners of goty every year, since ever Sega launch their successful console "Sega:return" in 2001 and sold 200millions in 5 years and has been in store for over 13 years already thanks to the amazing visuals crytek can archive with it, visuals that make crysis with mods look like a atari lol
the game is called "demo Island" and they have been making a sequel and prequel ever since! and each year it look better they add over 20k new pixels in each new game.
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ILive  +   548d ago
There should always be a good balance. A game developers put work into can achieve both.
thebudgetgamer  +   548d ago
Robotron is still more fun to play than most games released these days.
jeffgoldwin  +   548d ago
lol wow seriously that Atari game?
thebudgetgamer  +   548d ago
No.
jeffgoldwin  +   548d ago
Actually your wrong, it was for the Atari. Thanks for playing!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.h...
thebudgetgamer  +   548d ago
Alright then.
Gr81  +   548d ago
Gameplay
Is king. Tetris, Pac-man, Donkey Kong, Super Metroid and others of that ilk show that 25 years later, these games are still extremely popular and addicting.

How many games made in the last 5 years will still be played 20 years from now?
user7693958  +   548d ago
and who say games on the last 5 years do not have good gameplay?
they are many..

ps, gameplay should be always first thing devs have to nail and then focus on the rest, history, visuals, sounds.
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Gr81  +   547d ago
You missed
The point entirely. I'm not saying all games of today lack good gameplay.

But there is something special and unique about games of the past that while lacking in any graphical prowess by today's standards, continue to trump them in the gameplay field in many cases.

Take away graphical fidelity and many games can't stand on other foundations. The dev of Crysis admitted as much.
Hazmat13  +   548d ago
when i comes to this this is what i think.
Gameplay: john use your grappling hook to get to the old warehouse there you will find a opCV (OPerations Control Vehicle) there you can now command a fleet of RAV's to take over the base camp. or go in take out the power station and destroy the main generator and take them out silently. and well you can ignore what i say a burn everything to the ground.
Graphics: alright john take out russia while we set the sun in a cinematic area where everything looks pretty. as the for base camp go in and kill everyone.
thats how i see it might be wrong but, YOLO am i right? (damn i love ray from rooster teeth haha)
edonus  +   548d ago
I have never played a game where the graphics no matter how beautiful eventually sunk in to the background so I say its gameplay for me....

But thats not to say I havent bought games for graphics. Lots of people do.
mydyingparadiselost  +   548d ago
My imagination has better graphics than most games, so just give me gameplay and I'm good to go.
Conzul  +   547d ago
Crytek: Why, graphics, of course.
Notch: Why, gameplay, of course.
Druckmann: LoL
airshiraz  +   548d ago
it is like cinema u cant say a 1 million budget film is worse or better than a 200 million budget film i like them both
a little arcade game or a huge game with realistic graphics are both great
CEOSteveBallmer  +   548d ago
How about both graphics and gameplay!! Bioshock infinite does it, Uncharted series proves it and the upcoming Last of us will nail it. If gameplay only and not graphics, I wonder how many will play say ACIV: black flag great gameplay but there's one catch, you will be playing With PSone graphics coz graphics are not needed...
MasterCornholio  +   548d ago
I demand both though. But gameplay is more important than graphics but some people use that to justify their consoles weak hardware.

Here's an example of all 3 cases.

1. Terrible gameplay incredible graphics: Crysis 3.
2. Incredible gameplay terrible graphics (art style is incredible though): Guacamelee
3.Terrible graphics terrible gameplay:Aliens Colonial Marines
4. Incredible graphics incredible gameplay: Uncharted 2.

This is all subjective so don't burn yourself if you don't agree with this.

Yes I know there are no Nintendo or Microsoft exclusives in the list but I just listed games available to the console I own.

Motorola RAZR i
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Tontus  +   547d ago
How they hell does Uncharted 2 have incredible gamplay? It's all spectacle and no substance. Gears of War/Vanquish/Max Payne 3, Red Dead Redemption and Tomb Raider have MUCH better gameplay in the TPS genre.

And Uncharted 3 has incredible graphics, go back to Uncharted 2 now and it looks average. Uncharted 2 isn't a game that will have a legacy or will be remembered for years to come, it was acclaimed for being the first properly cinematic game, not because it has great gameplay or a story. Nowadays many games visuals make UC2 look average/bad and many games have pulled off the cinematic nature as well or better.
cyguration  +   547d ago
@TotalHitman

I really, really don't like Call of Duty, but to say that Uncharted 2 was more influential than COD this generation is an absolute lie.

I can only think of one Uncharted clone but there are countless COD clones out there and greedy publishers trying to imitate the gameplay and its sales.
Red_Devilz  +   547d ago
Amazing gameplay, above-average graphics : Assassin's creed 2

Amazing graphics, pathetic gameplay: Assassins Creed 3
kingduqc  +   548d ago
Great looking games add to the immersion, so does the sound design. Some games like dead space (first one) and metro rely on the visual to add a dark atmosphere witch put the player in a mindset and is actually a part of the gameplay (most of the time horror games)

I just wish developers would add more viscera visuals like this: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

not really possible due to consoles but it would be awesome to add gore tessellation could be a part of gameplay.
MuhammadJA  +   548d ago
Graphics helps a lot in the immersion of games. For me, A game must be %55 Gameplay and %45 Graphics. Those who say Crysis sucks are hypocrites who will gladly applause Killzone for its graphics.
mochachino  +   547d ago
Both are necessary and interdependent.
tommygunzII  +   547d ago
Graphics sell games.
I could be playing Far Cry 3 with max settings on PC or a SOCOM PS2 game and after 15 min the effect of graphics wears off, on either one.
Personally I could care less about shiny graphics but you don't get oohhh's and aahhh's at E3 from gameplay.
punisher99  +   547d ago
They need to do a graphics vs. HD resolutions/frame rates. Because so many people do not know the difference.
haggishurler  +   547d ago
Graphics are not everything but Twilight Princess didn't deserve the 480p treatment.

Although the game was still amazing in my opinion.
Yodagamer  +   547d ago
The only thing in graphics that matter to me is the framerate, slower framerates give me headaches. Part of the reason i couldn't play goldeneye for a long time even if it was amazing :(. Otherwise if the gameplay is really good i can look over bad graphics.
Gaming_Guru  +   547d ago
The game's graphics does not equal a good game, but the better the graphics the better the possibilities.

CGI Hulk: http://i.crackedcdn.com/php...

Live Action Hulk: http://i184.photobucket.com...

The CGI Hulk can bring you more into the experience when looking at the Hulk and is part of the experience. You bring that into games and video games like Grand Theft Auto or the Adventure games would still have text to describe what's going on. Better graphics allow better auto, voice acting, facial expressions, and a lot of other stuff.

Bad graphics can happen on any spectrum whether it's 2D or 3D and the Halo franchise is a perfect example of this. Graphics never really changes, nor the game-play but sells millions when a lot of people complain about Call of Duty.

Yet, the article seems to be talking about casual gaming than gaming as a whole. If a game is simple, it must be hard to master for me to keep coming back, I want a challenge this is why I don't like Bioshock, the whole game is a big walkthrough. I want to discover things on my own, and not have my hand held by the video game the whole time.
Sketchy_Galore  +   547d ago
The thing that really matters is the experience the game provides. Gameplay, graphics, story, design, they're just all servants to the experience.
I absolutely loved Telltale's Walking dead game despite the 'poor' graphics and ultimately pretty shallow gameplay because the characters and plot made for a worthwhile experience.
I absolutely loved Bioshock infinite despite the fairly standard shooter gameplay mostly because the art design and atmosphere of that world was incredible (the plot was also great but it's the atmosphere that pulled me in).
I absolutely loved Uncharted 2 despite the pretty safe plot and gameplay for the huge exciting set pieces which were made all the more thrilling by the incredible graphics.

Whatever it takes to provide a worthwhile experience is the important thing. Of course I would say that anybody who could enjoy a painfully dull macho brofest shooter just because it had technically great graphics is probably not my kind of person and I really couldn't do that myself but still, there are games that could have been pretty good but were pushed to the level of being great by stunning graphics.
RandomDude655  +   547d ago
Cerny gets it: "What you'll learn from a focus test:

What's popular as of ten minutes ago
How not to stand out
The feature list of every recent game that's pretty good"

Looks at RE6

http://www.slideshare.net/h...
Sony360  +   547d ago
Just for that picture; there's no reason more detail can't be added to the fourth mesh, even without using a normal map.
Ragthorn  +   547d ago
To me this is like comparing Steven Spielberg to Michael Bay. Yeah your gonna be like, "WOW Did you see those special effects." but then years after you will forget what made that movie (e.g. Transformers) special because what it pushed in VFX, sounds, and stuff is the norm presently. Schindler's List on the other hand is an amazingly crafted movie that will never be forgotten that needs no description. Yeah Crysis 3 pushed our graphics cards to the limit, but it lacked in substance, relying on the visuals only. Crysis 1 and Warhead on the other hand had a good balance in my opinion.
oIITSBIIo  +   547d ago
Gameplay is 70% of the game so if your talking about would I like to play game with very good gameplay and OK graphics or play game with OK gameplay and very good looking graphics ? defiantly with the first . In other hand Graphics matter for sure for example Dark souls is a very good game but if it had better graphics it would be an excellent game . it is hard to find your way in that out dated graphics and resolution .
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FaSCoRP  +   547d ago
That is why for example Bastion failed for me. Everyone loved the artwork and graphics. I tried and played it but the actual gameplay was pretty boring, go there, kill every monter, grab the object, go back to base, upgrade something, go there, kill every monster, and so on...
I have to admit that the graphics there were amazing but, behind that there was a very dull game, like TimeStalkers for the Dreamcast.

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