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Submitted by donniebaseball 744d ago | news

Xbox Live at 46m users as Xbox division sees sales jump 56%

Microsoft has just announced its third-quarter fiscal results for the period ended March 31, 2013, and it was an encouraging period for the Entertainment and Devices Division which houses the Xbox business. Total revenues climbed 56 percent year-over-year to $2.53 billion, while the division enjoyed an operating income of $342 million compared to a net loss last year during the same period of $228 million. (Industry, Microsoft, Xbox 360)

lastofgen  +   744d ago
It's great to see % increases in pretty much all of the divisions ms is invested in and I can definitely see why ms isn't in much of a rush for next-gen looking at their e&d division numbers.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   744d ago
@Lastofgen Yep.

"Microsoft will be announcing its March Xbox 360 numbers later today in conjunction with The NPD Group's monthly report."

I'm guessing MS will announce they'll be no. 1 sold in America.
nukeitall  +   744d ago
MS seems to be going out strong this generation financially and market share.

Next generation will be even more interesting.
how do they do it?

Xbox sales jump 56%

xbox original AAA IP's games down 100% since alan wake in 2010.

Will get disagrees but can't say it's not true.

I think casual gaming is MS strength later on this gen. Not core gamers.

I only think this since they focus more on casual gaming. logic..
otherZinc  +   743d ago
@lastofgen

Exactly!

SONY had to announce a next gen system because theyre getting killed.

If SONY isnt getting killed why are they the only console maker not listing a financial response to the March sales results?
Evil_Ryu  +   744d ago
curious to know what PSN PLUS percent is
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BitbyDeath  +   744d ago
Gold users are never mentioned either
dboyc310  +   744d ago
Doubt is anywhere as near to xbox live numbers. The simple reason being is that if you want to play online you HAVE to be an xbl member. Sony isn't forcing you to become one so the numbers shouldn't be that high.
BitbyDeath  +   744d ago
I heard if you halve the Live users it should be about what the Gold users are. 23m. Plus is probably somewhere between 5-10m. (Just a guess)
Riderz1337  +   744d ago
You "heard" that half of them are gold members? Well then, I "heard" that half of PSN accounts are PS Plus members! So that's, according to your logic, 40m PS Plus accounts. Prove me wrong.
coolbeans  +   744d ago
You're just pulling numbers out of a hat. >:
BitbyDeath  +   744d ago
Still more accurate than Patcher will ever be.
Oh and this is where i heard it from but yea that was back in 2010...

http://www.1up.com/news/mic...
GetSnooked  +   744d ago
Noooo, you just started the flames!!!
HyperBear  +   744d ago
Does anyone know any numbers pertaining to their Surface RT and Surface Pro products? Kind of interested in seeing how many or how much Microsoft have sold of them as it directly relates to their Entertainment and Devices Division.

OT: Good goin' Microsoft, keep up the good work (And announce the Xbox 720 already!)

Edit: @Dlacy13g, yeah I kind of figured, and those losses from last year were probably due to R&D costs for both the next Xbox and the Surface line. Plus last year, they launched Windows RT, Windows Phone 8, Windows 8, Surface RT and so far this year Office 2013 and Surface Pro, so there might have been quite a few bucks lost in marketing/releasing those as well.
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Dlacy13g  +   744d ago
My understanding is that surface has under performed so far.
Captain Tuttle  +   743d ago
I think Surface RT has disappointed but Surface Pro has sold out, not positive though and to lazy to look for a link
Dlacy13g  +   743d ago
@Captain Turtle... you very well could be right. I recall many sayint RT wasn't worth it in reviews and to wait for the Surface Pro. Despite the cost the full Windows OS and its specs make the Pro pretty appealing to me.
esemce  +   744d ago
And yet they still charge for basic P2P matchmaking so greedy so sad, sure it only cost like 52p a week but it's the principle of it that makes me no longer want to support MS next gen.
dcbronco  +   744d ago
Maybe they charge for it because it cost them millions of dollars to provide it. I know it's crazy that someone would actually charge for providing a service. Cellphone companies really piss me off too.
GetSnooked  +   744d ago
I wouldn't call it "basic P2P matchmaking" because there is party-chat. This allows your team to communicate amongst each other without the other team hearing you. It also allows the user to talk to someone playing another game.

So I don't believe it's basic matchmaking.
WUTCHUGUNNADO  +   744d ago
It's basic P2P.

There's P2P and Dedicated servers. That's it.

Party chat is a stand alone feature like using ventrillo/skype.
dantesparda  +   744d ago
@dcbronco

So you hate the cell phone co. charging you for something everybody else does, but yet you seem to have no problem paying for something that nobody else charges you for. Gotta love fanboy logic
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Dlacy13g  +   744d ago
One has to wonder if last years Net loss was in large part due to R&D for the next Xbox. I am purely speculating but that is a pretty huge turn around for a division. I mean really you are talking about growth of $570 million to get them out of the $228 million hole and into the positive of $342 million.
kwyjibo  +   744d ago
I doubt that the costs for the Next box are as high as the costs they've been putting into Windows Phone or Surface.
Dlacy13g  +   744d ago
That is a great point... I would say between Windows 8 and Surface MS has been spending a ton on Marketing.
dcbronco  +   744d ago
The R & D budget for that division was over 1.5 billion last year. you look at the PDF on their financials page the information is their. You just have to find it in the summary.

Marketing also has a huge budget. I haven't seen anything about what it is though. In the past MS has had a habit of placing charges that make the numbers look bad in that division so that other divisions that are expected to do well won't take the hit. People tend to accept D and E having issues.
josephayal  +   744d ago
OMG %56!! you pay for Xbox Live, but that's because you pay for quality
dboyc310  +   744d ago
If you say so.
LordHiggens  +   744d ago
Quality my ass, I own an xbox and whenever I play online I play with some of the most immature crappy people on the face of the earth. I then go and play BF3 on my PS3 and everyone has *at least most of the time* a sense of community.
WUTCHUGUNNADO  +   744d ago
There's nothing to warrant the price of Xbox live anymore. They charge for basically nothing.
xJumpManx  +   743d ago
That is how I feel about PS+, I already own he games they let you play while you are a Ps+ member. I pay the XBL for basically the party chat I enjoy talking to diff friends all playing diff games. I also appreciate that xbox live has not been down for over a month because company invested in security for their users. But again you get that kind of security for paid base service.
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   744d ago
It's the best. There's a reason we don't mind paying for it.
chrismichaels04  +   744d ago
Everyone is entitled to have an opinion.
ALLWRONG  +   744d ago
Opinions are one thing, numbers and facts are another.
evilunklebud  +   744d ago
I agree.. I think McDonalds is crap food, but I don't think people are stupid for buying it.

If they want to pay for it, who really cares???
NastyLeftHook0  +   744d ago
its good YOU feel that way.
dantesparda  +   744d ago
"There's a reason we don't mind paying for it"

Yea, its called fanboyism, stupidity or just being a sucker. Or having no choice but pay if you wanna play the online component/other half of your game
Godz Kastro  +   743d ago
Thats a lame comment, fanboyism? You are the fanboy of something else if thats how u feel. I love xbox live and sorry but PSN is Noooooowhere near it...
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FlyGuyHung  +   744d ago
Just renewed my XBL Gold membership today. You are welcome Microsoft.
xboxlj  +   744d ago
I guess 3 people "disagree" that you renewed your XBL memebership today. Quite curious.
Supermax  +   744d ago
Woot microsoft
Jek_Porkins  +   744d ago
This is the reason they will continue to charge for Xbox Live next generation. I think overall people just associate Xbox Live with a quality online gaming setup and experience, it doesn't really matter what the competition is doing, and the competition is actually doing something similar and doing it well, but people just link Microsoft and a solid online service as one and the same, 11 years of great service will help you accomplish that of course.

Congrats to them, that is a huge increase YOY and it comes at a time when everything in gaming is actually in decline as far as numbers go.

By the way, if anyone is looking for a cheap Xbox Live Gold membership check out Crazygametime because they always offer a year for under $40, which is like $20+ off the normal price.
stage88  +   744d ago
That was a lengthy sales pitch...
xboxlj  +   744d ago
Wow, how can so many people disagree with what you stated? I just dont understand members on this site.
GamerzElite  +   744d ago
They are just wasting their money. XBL has only 1 advantage, that is Party chat otherwise XBL is not a great service like PSN. In most of games PSN has stable server even Black ops 2 has exclusive deal with XBL and found BO2 server is worst on XBL. Wanna believe see this http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Good_Guy_Jamal  +   744d ago
So they made over half a billion more this quarter ( - 228m + 570m = 342m) than they did during the same time last year. And all this without releasing a hundred exclusives. . .I dunno how Microsoft continues it's massive successes in the face of such strong competition but that my friends is just impressive.
This is how they managed to claw back from that $1 billion dollar RROD fiasco and actually turn Xbox 360 profitable as a whole.

Must be nice for Nintendo and Microsoft to be able to announce successors to current gen consoles knowing they already made a profit this gen.
ger2396  +   744d ago
That's a lot of Xbox live subs, but even my 7 yr old son can't comprehend why we have to pay to play online.
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   744d ago
You are right. Microsoft should make their business decisions based on a 7 year old's capacity to understand them.
ger2396  +   744d ago
Lol, no Microsoft won't do that. They know a 7 yr old knows it's wrong to pay for something that's free on other platforms.
elhebbo16  +   744d ago
cool
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cyhm3112  +   744d ago
stupid people make up excuses to justify their fanboyism
urwifeminder  +   744d ago
Keep the goodtimes rollin ms.
lema008  +   743d ago
Kudos to MS for the turnaround considering the slow economy. Xboxlive might have some negatives but the positves out way them. You just can't dismiss 46 million users as just being uninformed gamers.

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