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Submitted by happyguy271 1030d ago | opinion piece

720 Leaks Confirmed...Probably...Chances Are...More Than Likely: Rumors Continue

BigBoxGaming-" As of April 17th, 2013 Microsoft has yet to make any official statement about any console in development by their company.

This, when paired with Sony’s February PS4 reveal, has lead to months of speculation that is rare even for the videogame industry.  Everyone with a keyboard and internet connection has weighed in on what the latest rumors are and what it means for the future of the 720/Durango." (Microsoft, Xbox One)

happyguy271  +   1030d ago
Even though it's been out of control I have enjoyed having some info to look at until the official announcement, thanks rumors.
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Saigon  +   1029d ago
I have to admit it has been entertaining but I like this article because it state facts. These are rumors and will continue being rumors until MS says something.

Its past getting old for me and I am starting to get sick of rumors because there is no guarantee that they are true or false. If the rumors were coming from more creditable sources it may raise an eyebrow from me.
UnholyLight  +   1029d ago
It helps to pass the time and get you hyped up at the same time!
Zuperman  +   1029d ago
What.. the.. f*ck.. is that -_-
Pintheshadows  +   1029d ago
I don't know, but i'm scared of it. It looks venomous.
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RyuCloudStrife  +   1029d ago
Every time I see that controller I think of a lobster for some reason...
showtimefolks  +   1029d ago
with rumors on daily bases some of these things are real, mostly whatever leaked for ps4 was real so if that's the case for next xbox too than we already know many things

but it still will be nice once MS holds an event to talk about the next system in detail

even though sony held their event we still don't know a lot and i think it will be the same for MS. Just a big Tease for what will likely be the most interesting E3 in a while
caleb4779  +   1030d ago
Looking forward to May so we can finally see what we are dealing with.
TI_21  +   1030d ago
Isn't that just speculation as well?
MS doesn't seem to be in a hurry to reveal their console at all, so I doubt that they'll actually set up a reveal party like Sony did.
By now the only time frame left, which would give them an advantage for E3, would be 1 (maybe even 2) weeks before the E3 itself.

But imho that just sounds too stupid to be true. ;)
Dlacy13g  +   1029d ago
the xbox 360 was announced a few weeks prior to E3 on MTV... its been done before. just sayin.
JimmyDanger  +   1029d ago
Major Nelson has had this Countdown (to E3) clock up since January.

They're in no hurry - they've got their plan and they're sticking to it.

But if the console reveal will actually be before E3 - what are the chances E3 is when it will go on sale, as I've read some speculation of?

Chances would be slim to none surely - but if it was 53 days away from sale - surely a few retail managers might have heard whispers by now?
FrigidDARKNESS  +   1030d ago
May 21 is so far away gosh i wished they would have kept that April 27 2013
gabescow  +   1030d ago
Don't know how we would ever find out, but I would like to know if they had to make hardware changes after the PS4 spec reveal and if that's why they've had to push back announcements.

I know lots of people have been saying that it was too late in the development cycle to make changes, but I'm still curious.
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Jdoki  +   1030d ago
Considering the effort required I would be shocked to find they changed hardware specs this late.

Not only is it technically difficult and costly - but considering the problems they ran in to with the 360 failure rate, would they really want to risk making changes to the hardware that could have unforeseen (or untested) consequences? - eg adding a faster CPU would add more heat. Changing chips or adding RAM would need a mobo redesign to make space as the RAM chips are likely soldered to the board and so on.

I don't think MS will want another billion dollar warranty bill!

People state that Sony made the change late to add 8GB to the PS4 - but that's just speculation because the development kits had 4GB. Sony would have planned for 8GB all along, but only informed trusted 1st party devs - the 4GB was a spoke screen and to keep costs down of the dev kits.
CEOSteveBallmer  +   1030d ago
Time flies by so fast so we need to just relax and take it easy. let's enjoy the summer with games!! :) the PS3 and Xbox 360 is like yesterday its kind of weird how days go by really fast. im sleeping and the next day I woke up I already have a console. It will come sooner
Bigpappy  +   1030d ago
That controller defines fake.
mochachino  +   1030d ago
Looking forward to its reveal. Not so sure about BC though. I much prefer the money that would be spent on BC being spent on more power/hardware features for next-gen games.

I don't understand why people rather sacrifice next-gen advantages just to play last-gen games on consoles they already have. Keep you current console, it worth almost nothing anyways.

If you're incentive to buying a new console is that it plays your old games you're buying priorities are wrong
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happyguy271  +   1030d ago

I still have my Super Nintendo hooked up for my kids, backwards compatibility is overrated. I'd rather the effort and hardware be put towards current gen titles.
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nosferatuzodd  +   1029d ago
I can't believe this we finally agree on something
Yes bc is way overrated
gabescow  +   1030d ago
Still have working NES, SNES, PS2, and Xbox- don't need backwards compatibility.
DivineAssault  +   1030d ago
i have a feeling that MS is going to reveal something thats better than what everyone thinks.. Not better than PS4 imo due to sonys philosophies on core gaming & exclusives but the system will be comparable & have its ups n downs like everything else
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BX81  +   1029d ago
It could be better than the ps4. Ur talking about two different things, hardware and software. This gen has proven that Sony has a big cataloge, bigger than ms in my opinion. That doesn't mean the next ms system can't be better. Im with you on the point that i too think ms has something bigger than what most gamers might be expecting. Either way im hoping for two great systems and a low price point, lol.
PunisherRevenge  +   1023d ago
Is it really that hard to think that maybe just maybe Microsoft could match or put out more powerful hardware than Sony this time around? Sure the ps3 had some decent exclusives, but so did the 360, hell even the Wii had a couple. I think we should all wait until we see the cards Microsoft is holding before jumpin to conclusions.
DivineAssault  +   1023d ago
i doubt they can.. If theyre designing a kinect 2.0 thats going to be sold with every system & it be more powerful than PS4, it would be far too expensive.. We will see but i HIGHLY doubt that itl have a bad ass kinect, be stronger, & be the same price.. The R&D teams have a budget they cant exceed when building a console to sell..

Sony didnt waste any R&D resources on gimmicks with the PS4.. They have a camera, a controller, & a system with horse power.. MS im sure invested something into the kinect 2.0 which will force em to cut back on power..
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Recon73  +   1030d ago
I just hope MS does not push back news conference again. Rumor was it was originally suppose to be in April.
Baka-akaB  +   1030d ago
Then again , if the conference itself was just a rumor , they' havent pushed anything back .

This has happpened with game releases too , people throw out ludicrous dates and claims there was a delay when reality ends ups not fitting the rumor .
xYLeinen  +   1030d ago
You guys are aware that rumors are / can be a strategy to get people talking about the platform? I've nothing else than everything from whining, hot headed discussions etc since these rumors started.

I'm not saying that Microsoft doesn't deserve the attention we are giving, but think before you rage..
CEOSteveBallmer  +   1030d ago
Yes true but its still a bad press nonetheless. They are successful at being the topic of discussion but positively, no.
headblackman  +   1030d ago
I'd rather them wait till e3 to wow us. e3 is tradition and just because Sony jumps off a bridge to its death doesn't mean that Microsoft has to also. that was their choice and I commend Microsoft for sticking to its guns and waiting till the e3 to reveal its next console project. I'd like to see it just like the next person but I'm not gonna whine and throw a his sy fit because of the wait and the've all have been waiting for console reveals at the e3 every June since there has been an e3. now all of a sudden because Sony makes the mistake of revealing its hand too soon, some feel like Microsoft has to follow its lead. uh, no! Sony does not and will never dictate the futuand plans of Microsoft. Microsoft is the king between the two companies now, so it is what it is. plus its smarter to put the money into the already scheduled e3 instead of two different events. that was dumb on songs part for many different reasons and this e3 will show everyone including them why.
gabescow  +   1030d ago
Sony has been enjoying nothing but positive press since February. We'll see how the Microsoft reveal goes, but we already know how Sony's went.

Their first move was a good one.
headblackman  +   1029d ago
let's be real here. they didn't say anything. all they did was tell you that it exists. everything else was about a controller that totally rips off the Xbox controller. so if you felt informed about nothing, than happy birthday to you because I didn't get it. ill wait for a real informative session (e3), because that wasn't it.
JimmyDanger  +   1029d ago
Although Sony have had good press - after about a month or so - MS started getting a hell of a lot of press rumours/speculation (and not all of it good) - that in many ways - has swamped the PS4 coverage.

Sony had wind that MS had a good hand, and by January MS had a countdown to e3 clock, implying that that was the LATEST they would possibly reveal it - so Sony upped their RAM and jumped out and showed - some first party games in development and a controller - while third parties rushed to get last years tech demos ready to present again. And of Sony's first parties - only 2 (Guerilla with KFSF and Cerny's Knack) - had playable presentations ready, running on "target hardware" and Vita.

As Kaz Hirai said in January - Sony is happy for MS to release first (which they will - A Sony exec saying the PS4 would release in "at least one" territory in 2013 is also a bit telling) - they just tried to play it PS2/DC and get their reveal out around the same time as the competition - regardless of the difference in launch dates - and hoped to gain mindshare early. Which led to - about 2 weeks of PS4 discussion, followed by a month of solid Xbox rumour/speculation.

MS couldn't be happier - people don't like to wait for things, look at how quickly Apple have been able to announce then almost immediately release products when their presentation hype is still cooking. The longer they can hold off an official reveal - the sooner to the reveal date they can release. Smoke and Mirrors sure, because , hey we're stuck waiting for the reveal - but once they start the official announcement rolling - well I'd garner it'll be less than 3 months until release - and they can save that promotional cost now, to spend, spend, spend on "official hype" once revealed. The internet is doing their job for free.

Some stuff got leaked - it looked bad (always online) - more was "leaked" (and I'm sure this second , more detailed leak was authorised higher up to contain the confusion created by an interpretation of one line in a devkit program - so response, if not official) - that sounded much better (always online only for Xboxmini/TVservices) - and we have an example of MS pre-reveal "guerilla marketing". Cost of free to cheap to them "dev says upcoming console you don't know about is great. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?" - but spreads like wildfire compared to - "dev says upcoming console you know about is great, but you knew that already because you watched 2 hours of devs telling you upcoming console is great". Canny guerilla marketing.

Sony rushed a "reveal" together - MS is waiting to see the turn card, and maybe even the river before they show their hand - while Sony went all in on the flop.

Whoever wins the hand is still to be determined, and both parties surely have strong hands to play - but MS is definitely wearing the Poker Face right now.
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nosferatuzodd  +   1029d ago
Wow just because Sony jump off a bridge
Microsoft is king talk about living in his own Microsoft world
Good luck to you
headblackman  +   1029d ago
I dont need it. Sony does. but thanx just the same (in a not really kind of way)
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jessupj  +   1029d ago
Could not disagree more.

If your a gamer, your with Sony. Sony's the one that produces more than 2 games every decade. Unless of course games aren't your priority.

Also Sony has received nothing but praise since their reveal. To say it was a foolish move is idiotic.
headblackman  +   1028d ago
its not idiotic at all to say. and I wouldn't consider what you've been reading about the ps4 praise. what they are getting is a good job for finally learning something and coming up to spread. kind of like a retarded kid finally getting past the finish line last. (that was a little edgy, but you get my point) plus its the new officially announced kid on the block so of course people will take notice and its only that way because Microsoft won't let anyone officially speak on the next Xbox to give it praise and overshadow the ps4, but trust and believe that e3 day is coming. and its approaching really fast Sony fans, so enjoy the short lived acknowledgment while you've got it. so on behalf of every Xbox fan, we finally welcome you into the race and design of pc-like architecture. we solute you for finally getting the picture. but don't get to happy because the boot is right around the corner
gamertk421  +   1030d ago
I say show the system in May, maybe 3 games, address all the rumors, and then say more details at E3 one month later. Short and sweet.
caleb4779  +   1030d ago
That would be a good approach. Get some positive information out there but save something for later.

Despite all the negative rumors you would think Microsoft will have a positive showing. Because as of right now Sony "wowed" the industry but still has plenty left for E3.

I think there is enough room for both consoles to succeed, but Microsoft has to get the ball rolling at some point.
lovegames718  +   1029d ago
The conference can be strategy all it wants to be and that is why Sony countered with rumors of another event of their own before E3. Trust me Sony is on their "A" game and all their doing is sitting back and forcing Micro to make a move. Based off rumors they still have alot more to talk about the Ps4 and a few surprises and if Micro comes and does a May 21 reveal dont be surprised to see Sony counter with some tasty stuff for Ps4 shortly after to smudge that hype lol

By the way on Sonys end E3 is going to be a mega blowout and their coming strong. All they need to do besides the norm of pricing, hardware specifics, etc... is talk more about Gakai integration, PsV to Ps4 remoteplay and show a ND game like uncharted 4 for ps4 and the whole dome will explode.
manjizz1995  +   1029d ago
i feel like the whole naming Xbox Durango is pretty dumb just an opinion stick to 720
glennco  +   1029d ago
Neither will be the official name
maniacmayhem  +   1029d ago
How did this article get approved? It stated absolutely nothing of interest or value.

I mean seriously there's like 4 paragraphs of nothing. The articles I submit get rejected for having a wrong tag.
WeskerChildReborned  +   1029d ago
From the picture, i thought that was like a Batman-esque controller...

Also why push Always On? -.-
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glennco  +   1029d ago
Sony revealed their dream machine. We still don't know if it will all be there on release. They have done this every single time, to deny this is to deny FACTS and you are an enabler to these companies' bullsh1t. Sony made promises they didn't keep with the PS3, such as dual HDMI.

They are not in that different a place right now MS and Sony. Neither console is on the shelves yet. It is all marketing and PR right now for Sony and just PR for MS.

I'll wait for both full specs and abilities upon release.

Nothing is set in stone yet

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