On GameTrailers TV you can see the first ingame footage of the new map Chinatown which is a remake of the old Carentan map from COD2. The map is to be included in the new DLC coming this spring for Xbox Live and PSN.
More of that please, i wanna see the other maps too :)
Only 3 maps??? Better make them free then.
There are 4 maps, Chinatown (seen in the vid), Creek (Kinda like overgrown but much more woodland) , Broadcast (Based on the Campaign mission 'Charlie don't surf') and a Free bonus map Killhouse, based on the training level in the single player campaign. And since they said that the 4th one is a free bonus map that leads me to believe that the other maps will have to be paid for.
Yeah, they said 4 maps, so I guess 3 are paid for, 4th is free.
and did anybody else notice that he hinted heavily that the 360 version will be out long before the PS3? "its on xboxlive live in march and on the PSN when?""Err we're hoping for spring"
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however is that any reason to call someone a [email protected]
Caffman, I think you made yourself look more of an idiot by saying what you said.
... more DLC we will have to pay extra for! Thanks Activision(!)
I'm getting sick and tired of this BS...
(yeah yeah, you dont 'have' to buy it... )
Kinda sucks when you already paid 60 EURO (not that toymoney dollars, but euros, which are actually still worth something in the real world), it's kinda sad and annoying to see more content only 3 months later where they want you to spend even more money on...
Actually these are hard worked maps by the infinity ward team so i see no problem in paying for them. you pay what you get thats ok, and as long as they dont charge a fortune for it im ok with it, 4.99 would be an apropiate pricetag
... in the days of PC, extra maps were just free, as a treat to the gamers who bought the game. It showed that the developers cared for their fanbase, and for their product, to give us something extra to extend the joy we had with the game.
Sadly, it seems those days are over, and developers only care about our money.
Anyway, I say, talk with your money, not your mouth, so I wont be picking up any game which uses DLC scamming, and just wait till they hit budget price instead, and maybe then pick them up.
I would have bought Crackdown fullprice, but because of the DLC, I still havent bought it, and TBH, I doubt that I ever will, now that other and better sandbox games are coming out.
Forza 2 I also wasnt planning on buying, same reasons (but I won a copy in a contest instead)
Naruto, I LOVE the anime, but will never pick up the game, which altough it's good, it asks for extra money for the DLC characters and stuff... which I'm not willing to do.
Sadly though, a lot of people seem to have no problems at all with first paying full price for a game, and then having to spend even more to get the full, complete experience.
So I guess, sadly, DLC (which you have to pay for) is here to stay. :(
Have you ever played a PC game? People make tons of maps for free.
yes i have played nearly every pc game available, dont try to educate me please, im gaming for over 20 years now, no matter what platform. but in the times of these graphic intense games it takes serious manpower to develop such high quality maps, and that cost quite some money on the dev side. And yes those times are over you gotta pay for such content, or rely on custom maps wich "almost" never offer new assets (mainly reused ones from the maingame/maps). I'm totally against keeping finished stuff out of the game just to sell them as dlc later on, but i support if they develop new content after the release to keep the game fresh and then im willing to pay for it. And yes they should make the modtools available so people can use custom maps on consoles too.
"yes i have played nearly every pc game available."
That is a fair effort.
What did you think of agather christies , murder on the orient express.
I enjoyed it but i thought some of the side missions were absurd. But its nice to play something different.
What did you think?
ps/ paying for 3 maps is not very fair. I will never pay for extra content. especially when its lag fun fest everytime i go on. Thats like paying for images on a profile.
Thanks to Live console gamers are used to getting riped off. Frankly I hate paid for DLC, because they tend to split the community. As if there isn't enough lag and disconnects now the paid maps will make everything worst.
agree @ above well im bailing out of this discussion :) i strongly support free DLC but i can "understand" when devs start charging for them (posted the reasons below). Thats all im saying nothing else. you know my statement if the content is new developed i think its ok to pay for them, if its left out content from the maingame its not. Live is a huge ripoff, and no i havent played agatha cristies :), (common sence would imply i havent played all games but many) :) i meant with my sentence that i played far to many games, mods whatsoever so im not a 15 old kid with the 360 beeing his first console and getting used to be ripped off.
you can never play to many games. haha.
Wow, now we've gotta listen to Europeans bragging about their Euro? LOL It only took a few hundred years to come up with one uniform currency for all of Europe but good job. But don't complain...you can come the US right now and buy stuff for cheap. Wish I could.
You paid 60 euros?! Ok, I paid 60 dollars and I think that the euro is almost double the dollar's worth so you pretty much paid double what americans paid for it, lol. I'll be the first to say that the dollar is almost worthless nowadays (thanks to bush, the "federal" reserve, and the BS NAFTA) but at least it's not NWO money. Honestly, i would still be supporting my country's currency and not that One World Government money. They are making the dollar worthless because they are trying to push the Amero on us and make N. America into the NAU. put onto the point, I understand the cost of making new maps now but really, it's the PS3 gamers that are getting screwed on the charge for the maps. Xbox live gamers are used to getting screwed and paying for DLC when Sony's has usually been free (- full games) because the DLC on ps2 was free (ex. Camos for snake in MGS3). I know that sounds fanboyish but it's true. Also, wasn't Overgrown and Downpour DLC maps? We couldn't play them on 4 person split screen on my friend's 360 so I thought they were extra maps.
Yes to everything you wrote. Consoles game publishers should either start offering mod tools, or give out maps for free. Like I said in the other thread yesterday, for REAL content, I don't mind paying. Coop, new campaign missions, etc, are all great things that I would spend money on. But I won't pay for maps.
why are 4 mp maps (made by the dev and not some modder) not worth paying for ? Sure i've seen many great mod-maps, but it's still a difference if they are made by the dev who can actually hold the quality level. There are professional mappers at work here.
I understand what you mean, but I have to repeat myself to explain. (I said this in another thread, sorry.) I can make you a brand new map for COD4 in 8 hours for the PC. I have the tools. I have most of the statics I need, and I can borrow statics from other modders. Most PC gamers are used to getting free mod content from like-minded people who are interested in expanding the games they love. COD4 is a game I love. The campaign is emotionally devastating, the multiplayer is invigorating (even though there are parts I don't like), and the overall graphics are great on every platform. But I still have this PC mentality. Maps are easy to make. Anyone can make a map. You could make them, dude. With a couple of your friends you can test them and make them great. I won't pay for maps. Full mods, yes. Extra story content, yes. Expansion packs, yes. Not maps.
@ perseus i'm taking about professional mapping not some thrown together custom maps. sorry but as im also working as a mapper/3d modeler i have to disagree greatly with you if you state you can make a fully balanced map in 8 hours, that is just bs sorry. Making a new map from scratch building all the static-meshes, textures (diffuse, normal maps, speculars, aoc), lighting the map properly for mood, balancing and playtesting it, and in the end deliver a map in the same quality as in cod4 takes several mens work for quite some time. "Maps are easy to make. Anyone can make a map. " whatever sure everyone can "make" them few of them are playable even less are good. you get professional quality from infitiy ward for those maps stop acting like its a nobrainer.... the thing is also those people want to be paid right ? modders are mostly young (live at theyre parents, or earn theyre money on other jobs and offer theyre sparetime for the modding) I#m not saying that paying for maps is good but its going to become a standard since the amount of work put in the graphics nowadays take alot of time and professionals. "Like I said in the other thread yesterday, for REAL content, I don't mind paying. Coop, new campaign missions, etc, are all great things that I would spend money on." whats the difference a campaign mission is also JUST a map with scripting, sure it has more funktionality coding and sound, but why is a mp map (wich needs extensive balancing and tweaking) less worth paying for then singleplayer maps ? Coop is mainly only some coding to add some network funktionality intot he singleplayer camaping ? And i guess with infinty ward offering us a kickass singeplayer WITH a huge working multiplayer component is allready more then we get from most games, most publisher would have split them up into 2 fullprice games
You work as a 3d mapper/modeller and you disagree? I find that hard to believe. For a complete modification like Project Reality or Forgotten Hope (for BF2), you're right. It takes a long time to get everything together. But if you can use the same statics, same weapons, and same animations, you can make a new map in 8 hours. I don't care how different the location is, you can reuse most of the statics. Now, I must say that I agree that most fan-made content is crap. But have you ever seen Project Reality and Forgotten Hope? Admittedly, these aren't 8 hour maps, these are complete modifications. But these are mods that are free to download. FREE. YES I'M USING CAPS LOCK. BECAUSE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. You can buy BF2, which is years old, and download a couple of mods that update everything from the graphics to the weapons to the freaking game engine, and it's free. M'ther'F'ing Free man! Free! Why should I pay for IW to make me a couple of maps that reuse a bunch of old crap that they had laying around when I can download it for free if I'm a PC gamer? I love consoles, I really do. I converted from PCs to consoles because I was sick of buying new PC cards and other stuff. But if they keep up with this DLC sh%t, I'm out. I'll buy a new PC instead. And I'm a gamer that pays for every game he buys.
I don't care how much time IWD spent on these new maps, facts are facts. The line between a professionally crafted map and good user made free map are very, VERY thin. This a fact that has been proven time and time again since most of the best map makers are frequently hired on as developers.
Thats why PC will not be getting any of maps from the console's DLC. In the PC world if you try to charge people for maps they will laugh or flame you off the net. Instead PC users will get their "offical" maps for FREE via the map making contest.
This is just another reason why the PC's CoD community is far better off than the console's CoD community. Its an embarrassment of riches really.
1. PC CoD 4 support dedicated servers and 30 players. All maps are available in any game mode. Wanna play Shipment in domination? PC players can but console players can't, and thanks to dedicated servers PC players never had to put up with IWD half assed match services. That epic huge.
2. Aside from just an unlimited supplies of free maps PC players get new skins, new weapon models, new weapon sounds etc etc etc...
3. Thanks to the free official maps from the contest, the PC community will not be split between the haves and have not like the console's DLC. Here's the insulting thing though, sooner or later the console's DLC maps will make their way to the PC for free too!
4. CoD 4 for the PC cost $20 less than any console version LOL!
So IWD, console players pay more for their game, get an inferior version of the same game, must deal with lousy connectivity issue via the match making "service", have no access to new skins/models and various user created content...the least, and I mean LEAST you could've done is release this map pack for free.
But I guess 2.4 million copies sold isn't enough to appease their greed.
Hey, Fanboi. Where'd you get the numbers for the PC version?
youre an idiot. I can obviously tell that you never had the resources to allow you to play call of duty on a console. In regards to shipment, you can play domination in that map. I play it all the time. Before you try to flame any console which, by the way, are the reason the gaming industry exists at least rent a machine so you can learn something about something you know nothing of. Stupid pc gamers are all the same, why are you in this post of news if it is for xbox and ps3? You dont own neither, had you, you would have known that you can play domination in shipment. So get out of here and go update your videocard.soundcard/graphics card/ monitor etc etc. PC gamers are known as the poor gamers that have to download and hack because they cant afford to pay for a real system and real games...get a life loser
Have you seen the prices for the latest gen hardware lately? Hardly cheap. I just spent 1245.00 on an upgrade, not a new pc. I play several fps on the pc and some of the user created content is amazing. I own a ps3 and I did own a 360. The console is the cheapest way to game by far.
What happened to the competition for making maps for COD4? I hope IW themselves made these maps and not took someone else's for free and charging us. ALso point to note is that 2 of the maps are modified versions of previous incarnations and not totaly new so why the hell charge for that?
Seriously though, using a map from prior COD's and tweaking it thats so boring! First off this is not from COD2 if anyone caught that I seem to remember playing that level for hours on end on COD and CODUO so they cant even remember where they got it from. I love COD4 the multiplayer levels are awesome (a little small for my liking) and original, but, this whole use old maps stuff is just bugging me. I wonder if they will even change the 2 machine gun emplacements the one in the second story window and the other on the street behind the small sand bag wall. They had that whole contest for map making and this is all they could come up with! Shame on yall, but, ill still be buying them unless they are for free which would make me less mad knowing I didnt pay for this level twice if you know what i mean.
If you pay, they'll keep selling them. If you refuse to pay, then either we'll get them for free one day, or someone will hack the systems properly ('360 or PS3) and we'll be able to use mods. Either way, we win. / Even I say this, and I hate hacking for the purpose of stealing games.
I remember carentan, but I could have sworn it was in COD3, guess I will have to pop it in and find out.
He's right, it's from the original CoD, it's a great map too.
lol if everyone quits buying the maps they will just quit making them.
COD:4 was well worth the money. If they want to make more maps for money then thats fine. If you dont want to pay for them then GOOD for you, some of us dont mind paying for DLC as long as its good.
They are providing a service, take it or leave it and quit your b*tching.
Gamers are some of the worst whiners on the face of the planet. Things take a lot more money to make today then they did last decade. Get over it. If you have a problem paying for extra maps then dont buy them but dont ask developers who have worked really hard to produce a map to give them away for free.
How is what I'm saying whining? I want free stuff, or I want the ability to make it myself. If I can do it on the PC, I should be able to do it on a console. If we stop buying this worthless DLC crap, one of two things will happen. Either they will stop making or they will start making it worth the money. Again, I repeat myself by saying this but obviously you haven't read the whole thread, I'm not saying that DLC is bad, I'm saying that 4 maps or a few extra weapons is. A semi-literate 12 year old boy is capable of making a new map for COD4 for the PC, why the f*k should I spend money on it for the PS3? If they give me coop, or give me new missions, or give me a new campaign entirely, I'm not only willing to pay, I'd line up for it. So I ain't whining, I'm b*tching. And for good reason, too. I want what PC gamers get, otherwise I'll never buy another multiplayer PS3 game again. But you can do what you want. Go ahead. Pay for maps that come for free on the PC. No problem dude. It's your money.
As long as its $4.99 or under i'll buy it, if it's more than that then forget it. These maps look like they'll be fun, lets hope they are. I love COD4, but I am beginning to get bored of the maps.
map pack will probably be 799 to 999
with COD2 infinity ward made several maps packs that they charged 400 points($5) for, and after a few months the maps became free. pretty much the same thing that's done with halo maps, hope they do the same with COD4
OK. So if you had a wife and kids and worked for 2 months only seeing them for three hours a day, wouldn't you want a paycheck for all that hard work, all that time spent developing maps and neglecting others?
you know that when you actually buy a game, say for 60 or 70€/$ a part of it goes to the developers?right? they made huge piles of money with this game, we paid full price for it already, i'll probably invest these 5-10 € in a dildo, the results are the same...
BS...considering the PC community will get them free. Anyways, its nice to see Carentan getting some love. Great map in COD1 & 2.
GIMME MY MAPS
You can play Domination on the shipment map on the PS3 and I would imagine that the 360 is the same. Where did you get your info from?
....not getting it
Ur an idiot. There is shipment domination and boy its not fukn fun huge toll to your kill death ratio. Also yea we pay 20 dollars more for our console games but how much you pay to achieve your full gaming experience? 1.5-2.5 grand? Anywayz I dont know why people are getting upset that they may have to buy it. How about freerad just not making any new maps and be like the heck with us all and go to their next game? They taking the time to get us a couple new maps and all you guys wanna do is complain shame on u. Also I think its MS fault why the maps could be paid if they are. They regulate all the prices that goes in the store and if they charge 1 amount on 1 store they probably have to do it in both to make it only fair.
There are actually 4 maps now with the names Broadcast, Creek, Chinatown, and Killhouse.
Here's the solution..
A) If you have the money and they charge for the maps; Buy Them!!!
B) IF you dont have the money and they charge for the maps; Dont buy them!!!
C) If the maps are free, you've wasted posts crying and complaining for nothing, and therefore do not deserve free maps
"A) If you have the money and they charge for the maps; Buy Them!!! B) IF you dont have the money and they charge for the maps; Dont buy them!!!" It has nothing to do with having money, it has to do with the principle. Others get great content for free, and I want the same thing. If they don't offer the maps for free, I'll stop playing COD4, and will buy UT3. I'm okay with this, why do you care so much about why I care? Maybe you've never played a real mod. "C) If the maps are free, you've wasted posts crying and complaining for nothing, and therefore do not deserve free maps" And this is the sort of thing that belongs in the open zone. If you can't argue like an adult, you shouldn't pretend to be one.
"Small-minded idiot?" See? That's what I meant. If you want to be treated like an adult, act like one. You could have said what you wanted without resorting to childish name-calling. Open zone. p.s. Showing off your "qualifications" is meaningless online. p.p.s. Your understanding of business is somewhat simplistic. Stick with nursing school.
Even if Infinity Ward just went through and re-worked all of the old Call of Duty multiplayer maps, I would snap it up as soon as it came out. I have been hopelessly addicted to all of the Infinity Ward Call of Duty games. And I would not mind paying for REASONABLY priced DLC for a game that I have had a blast with, and will get that much more entertainment out of.
Why pay for a Old versions of a COD2 with shinier setting and some maps that where modeled from the campaign mode? Thats corny straight up. These Microsoft and PSN nickel and dime bullsh1t transactions will kill us all. I want 10 maps for 400 and not some from the campaign mode.
they should work on giveing my my killcams for ps3...geez
Fix the goddamn before you release new content.
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