While talking about previous console launches and what they have learned from them, Sony said that the PS4′s price will appeal to gamers “in the broadest sense.”
This is very good news. Sony is literally hitting every note of a perfect launch. So people saying $499 are definitely wrong or maybe... Sony may price it high, but take a note from MS and subsidize the cost with a subscription to plus. Thinking like $150 to $200 (random guess) if you subscribe to the psplus service for x amount of years. If done right PS4 would sell a ridiculous amount. It will anyway I'm sure but if they subsidize the cost... Glad I'm preordering right away.
What?? If Sony sets the price at $250 or less expect absolute fukken annihilation next gen.
is a nice price. I wouldnt put it past both Sony and Ms to offer some sort of subsidized price model this time around.
PS4 combined with this: http://www.engadget.com/201... I remember telling all of these people that 4K prices would drop and they just attacked me. Sony even said their 4K TVs will initially launch in a few weeks starting at $5000. By Christmas 4K TVs will be $1000. That and a PS4 will be a sweetheart deal.
Its just between affordable and too pricy but when you compare that to the prices of tablets it's a decent launch price.
Morganfell, why would you get a 4k tv? No games are going to natively support 4k. Hell going by the consoles specs it would be wishful thinking to even think we'll have games running 60fps 1080p.
Get a 4k because of new Blurays that will show 4k since almost every movie in the past 50 yeas has been shot in a Res higher than 4k. Get a 4k for he super photo viewer on the PS4 Get a 4k because its only a matter of time till some come any does the 4k game dance. Besides morg was right peeps attacked an now look. Get a 4k ftw.
If both SONY and MS want to keep the costs down then they'll have to come up with some sort of subscription plan. But if they don't, we are looking at a $359 and $449 price window. People expecting a $250 PS4 and Xbox 720 without a subscription plan are dreaming. I can only hope that their dreams come true but reality is that the price will be somewhere in the middle of PS2/Xbox 1/Dreamcast era and PS3/Xbox 360 era. What I mean is that we'll be paying a bit more than we did back in the PS1 days but less than PS3/360 launch days.
Could be wrong but I didn't think a 4K TV was meant to be as effective at a 50" size?
The lower the price, the more launch titles I can buy. I've put $600 aside for whatever the system cost and what evers left goes towards games, services and accessories. I'm pretty sure it'll be around $350-$450 though.
@Apollo dude not that low maybe $300...but if it was, holy fak!
ApolloTheBoss, "What?? If Sony sets the price at $250 or less expect absolute fukken annihilation next gen." For who, Sony? Why would a company in as much financial crisis as Sony want to come out with the PS4 that cost the same as the Vita and take that much of a loss per unit? I have serious doubts Sony can price it at $299. It would be great if they could but seeing as how they can't really afford to even drop the Vita and the PS3 is still selling at $249 or higher chances are slim. I expect a basic PS4 for $399 and a pro model for $499.
The PS4 will not be cheaper than the Wii U. I am 99.99999999% certain of that.
I fully intend to keep PSN+ next gen, assuming it's available. If Sony offers a discounted PS4 for a PSN+ subscriber contract of some kind, I'd be all over that.
The price will definitely not be less than 500 bucks for the highest end model. A low end model with a subscription is a possibility, I would never ever pay a subscription fee for a console, you'll easily make up that price after owning the console for 3 years or so.
I expect a PS3 price drop to $199 at E3, and the PS4 to launch at $399 and $499 SKUs.
@MikeMyers If I am not mistaken ApolloTheBoss was referring to the subscription base planning. We already speculate the PS4 to be around 350$ to about 450$ based on all the articles that have stated this and some popular Japanese magazines. Sony is going to be looking to sell two different version, one with the basic gaming platform and the other with the new PSeye. It would be nice if they somehow included PS+ into the equation by signing a subscription that would reduce the cost of the console. This is all coming from the speculation that MS is doing with the Next Xbox. 500$ for the system at base price and 300$ for the system with subscription. We don't know what that subscription service is for, but it would be nice to include Live into the package, but most sources are referring to a cable based subscription.
@Saigon That's exactly what I was referring to. Just imagine how the casuals will react when they realize that they'll be getting a new game every month for free. People still don't realize how much money they will save if they subscribe to plus.
Rumor has it Microsoft will have a subscription deal for next xbox, N4G reacts: greedy, money hungry buggers!! I wouldn't put it past them to swindle people out of their money! Disgusting! Random guy suggests SONY might go subscription route to make console affordable: ZOMG!! Sony is gonna sell so many ps4 because they love us and they are kind and gentle with us! Oh wow what an amazemabombs idea!! Please let me have your babies sony!
You understand XBL and PS+ are too different services that serve different functions. (I hate the idea of that type of subscription either way. Edit: I need to pay attention before i respond to the 1 bubble trolls *Facepalm @ myself*
Cause Sony doesn't make you pay to access half your game lol, it gives you 100+ games for $50. Along with Cloud saves, auto updates and invitations to beta, events and sometimes just random $10. Not to mention the cheap deals you can get with PS+.
I'm assuming a $299-399 price point
A man doesn't see how you could expect a $300 system when the 500gb PS3 is still $300. A user does realize that is built from 7 year old tech and PS4 will be relatively new? Tech goes up in price when it's not that old and Sony already said every PS4 will pack a very large HDD.
@jahen Ps3 uses cell processor which are custom built for Sony Ps4 using computer parts= much cheaper
Wow, for the price i can buy 2 console at launch, and preserve the other 1 untouch then 10 to 15 years from now the price of it maybe golden
I pay for Plus and don't plan on stopping anytime soon, so a package deal sounds good to me.
I paid £420 for my PS3, so as long as it's cheaper than that its all gravy.
It definitely won't be the $499 that people are saying. If I were to guess, $250 would be the sweet-spot. Going with $150 or $200 might be too low, even if Sony wants to price the PS4 good, they still want to make money off of them.
indeed, just a guess but either way if they subsidize with a subscription there looking at a lot more buyers.
I think $399 is the sweet spot. I would even say $450.
It will be $350 or $399.
Exactly what I said below. At $349, Sony would twist Nintendo's arm to the point that they'd have to significantly drop the Wii U's price.
I agree, but if they introduce a subscription service which I have high hopes for, then the price could definitely be sub-$300.
Didn't the Vita launch at $249 and $299 respectively? You think the PS4 will launch for just $50 to $100 more? I think we might see one PS4 SKU at $400, but there will probably be one more expensive. $400 isn't terrible though.
Sony says PS4 price will appeal to gamers “in the broadest sense” If by that he means 'casuals' too, then I expect a lower price than people think.
I see, when its suggested that Microsoft might sell their console for $300 then it's too cheap and won't be powerful.
When SONY says the console will be affordable in the broadest sense it's because it is a marketing strategy. Pretty much right?
I'm not saying you in particular Gribble so don't get excited, but a couple of people suggested the same about Microsoft in the $300 article but they were met with massive disagrees and criticism.
"I'm not saying you in particular Gribble so don't get excited, but a couple of people suggested the same about Microsoft in the $300 article but they were met with massive disagrees and criticism." Welcome to N4g :D
Well, all fans of consoles get excitable at the drop of a hat. I've not discussed the pricing much to be honest, although I was thinking in the ballpark of $399. That phrase he used HAS made me consider lower though (if the starting point WAS $399 and no higher). Looking at the specs and considering the rumour that the camera is going to be included, I think that perhaps Sony have adjusted their strategy slightly. $250 - $299 doesn't seem out of the question if you offer a lower entry model WITHOUT the PSEye ... Although that would pose the question: but what would draw the casuals? There is another way of looking at this though. IF Sony can make their services pay, especially Gaikai, and the revenue created from distribution through many none Sony branded hardware can more than offset the PS4 losses, then that would enable Sony to sell the hardware at a bigger loss because they would still benefit hugely from the services earnings. It's a riskier proposition for Sony. I suppose it depends on what partners they've already got and what devices are already in line for offering PSGaikai driven content. It also offers devs a huge incentive to make exclusive content for Sony because their audience would be much bigger than just one console. This in turn could also help drive console sales which of course then offers even more service driven revenue.
If it bothers you that much then get counciling dude. People get so defensive on here over nothing. Learn to let it go over your head!
"I see, when its suggested that Microsoft might sell their console for $300 then it's too cheap and won't be powerful. " Depends if Microsoft includes Kinect with the 720 or not. Its essentially the same case with the Wii U with its weak hardware and its expensive controller. But until the 720 is unveiled to the public we really dont know anything about it. @porkchop " The PS4 doesn't have that type of controller, so there's a lot of headroom left for better hardware at that price." Yep but thats the price that people pay for gaming on such an expensive controller.
"I see, when its suggested that Microsoft might sell their console for $300 then it's too cheap and won't be powerful."
Please link me to anyone writing that, gotta be honest, I think your making stuff up.
Can we please stop pretending only one side or another has fanboys? Please? Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, PC... They all have their share of hypocrites, and most of us play the same game from time to time, whether we actually believe what we're saying or are just trying to get under someone's skin and provoke a response.
You should change your name to scumbag_Jamal
@Budget Gamer: http://n4g.com/news/1233819... see for yourself.
Why even bring it up Jamal? You realise your comments come off as trolling right? How is anyone meant to respond to it?
All I saw was you blowing one persons comment way out of proportion....maybe you need to ignore the fanboy/trolls when you get on this site it may make your stay more enjoyable. Fact is nothing has been announced whatsoever about the Next Xbox, so to speculate on price Is borderline insane when we know nothing about it specs controller online service or otherwise .....besides..that article failed because it was BS anyway
My bad then. Carry on.
@Good_Guy_Jamal Why are you upset? People say a lot of things, you just continue to support the console or brand you love, doesn't matter what the rumors are. We will know by E3, if you don't like what you see you can always go with the other company's product.
Price might be 400 then, which is fine by me.
I agree as well. $399 would be the bread and butter for the core. It's not going to cost anything less unless it's sold via a contract or subscription service, in which case it could be as low as $299 with a 1 year PS+ contract, or $199 with a 2 year contract, both of which would be a steal of a deal. My guess is they're going to be contract based this go round, because it's the only way to hit a mass market appealing price Day 1, and on top of that when the contract expires people should be accustomed to PS+ so they're willing to pay for the $50 subscription or even upgrade to the Gaikai subscription.
A man would jump for joy at that 2 year contract since he is already subscribed to the end of 2014. He will be taken care of with free games and hopefully all the streaming services till 2016 and have his most anticipated console ever for $150 less than he predicted!
@Jaqen I know, people seem to be so against contracts these days, because I guess it's the new thing to hate, but there's nothing wrong with it if Sony goes this route. But I don't think it'll be $50 a year for PS+, but $10 a month, which would still be a great deal since it balances out to be $440 for the PS4 over a 2 year period. It may be $249 + 2 year contract, since $199 and 2 years would be significantly cheaper than someone who pays $399 + $100 for 2 years of PS+, but still either way it's a great deal.
excellent , im posting all the ps4 news on facebook to help get the word to my friends so i can get them to buy one so i can own them all on battlefield 4.
I'll pay anything. Sony are the best in the business.
My guess is $349-$399.
a $399 price point would be pretty awesome
You people here sucks at predicting anything. At least make it reasonable -.- . It doesn't make sense at allllllll . Ps3 price right now is 300$ . It's 300$ without the game in my country. http://www.amazon.com/PlayS... Sony said all ps4's will have a huge hard drive which means at least 500GB . Sony will release the ps4 with the highest price they could to profit because that's what companies always do. Ps4 will be at least 100$ more then ps3. So it's between 400$ and 600$. Do you think new tech is gonna be cheapier then current tech ?. Because the price you guys put says that to me -.-. Come on think a little bit before writing >.< .
I expect a PS3 price cut this year so it won't always be $300. In the US you can get a 500gb with a game for $300 and the latest 250gb bundle will be $250. I wouldn't be surprised if that drops by $100.
when you think about it all though, it makes sense really. the generation is coming to an end. and the console is still 250/300. I do think a 100 dollar price cut is indeed coming puting the console at 150/200 which is a great deal if you ask me. the price hasnt been cut since 2011 so it makes logical sense Either way i need to save some money up. I see myself spending a good 700ish at launch if the console is 400. i have so many games already i wanna buy at launch (assuming they are all launch games Knack Driveclub watch_dogs Infamous seond son killzone shadows fall
Subsidize... think before writing.
The base model PS3 is currently sold for profit at $269CAD, and will get a price drop at E3. The PS4 will be sold at a loss, and Sony already said multiple times that they will never release a $600 console again. There's also the fact that the PS4 is using PC parts, which are cheaper to manufacture than custom parts like the PS3. I'd say that $350 for the base model is realistic. The only reason that the Wii U costs $350 for example, is because just over half of the production cost goes into the tablet controller. The PS4 doesn't have that type of controller, so there's a lot of headroom left for better hardware at that price.
But you have to consider what the PS4 offers that the PS3 doesn't. Gaikai is going to offer PS content on phones, laptops, pads, PSvita and TVs. If the services are good and the content compelling then I see no reason why the PS4 couldn't actually have a lower price than you or I think. It's going to be about the content and the distribution of that content, NOT the console itself. Taking that argument to the extreme in order to press my point home, even if Sony NEVER release another console and just offer Gaikai as a service to ANY Gaikai enabled device, they could justify creating unique content and AAA games. I don't think the penny has quite dropped for many people yet, but as the service rolls out, I think more people will suddenly realise what Sony are doing. Forget hardware for now. Think Services. That's where the big money is going to be for Sony regardless of how many consoles they sell or at what price they sell it. Remember that the controller now carries your ID. This means that all you need to do is take your controller with you to access any PS4 content ... on ANY device. That won't happen immediately, but it WILL happen eventually. There are literally hundreds of millions of devices out there already that Sony can harness for revenue. Do this right and relatively smoothly and this industry could grow bigger than we've ever seen it before.
BC is already removed in ps3 so it's not like they will remove anything that will lower the price that much. Everything in ps4 is an upgrade. Even USB is better on ps4 so new tech won't be cheaper for us. Sony made Ps3 slim twice to make the price of manufacturing lower but in market it's still the same and maybe even more expensive. Companies don't make something at lost. They make something for 50$ then sell it for 2x the number or even more. That's how companies work to profit. Sadly a lots of people don't acknowledge this. You people may be disappointed if you expect less then 400$. Sony say it will appeal to gamers means it won't be 600$ but doesn't mean it's cheap. It's how to make people accept the price they will put. Anything less then 600$ will appeal to people. Even if it got 300$ price tag most of the countries will have higher price because of taxes and it will reach more then 400$. To be honest ps3 price right now in my country is still more then 350$. LOL. I told my brother it may cost 400$ and he was shocked because even with that price it's not reasonable because of the specs and ps3 price tag. I have a strong feeling on 500$ Price for our country. You guys will get it for 400$ . That's what i expect. If it's more then that's ok. If it's less i will be more then happy to be wrong :D ..
@14Feb-R, When consoles first release they generally always lose money (unless you are Nintendo). PS3 is no longer losing money so what they earn is more than what the PS3 actually costs. However when the PS4 arrives it will not be losing money so the price of $350-$400 is possible. In short, PS3 price is currently inflated, you are not seeing the real price of how much it actually costs to make. I'd expect a pricedrop at E3.
I dunno. Did you factor in that when the PS4 is released the PS3 won't necessarily be considered "current tech"? Which would probably mean that PS3 prices wouldn't be what they are, just like PS2 prices weren't the same when the PS3 came out and the PSOne wasn't the same price with PS2 coming out. Just like when the newest model of iPad came out Just like what happens when newer model phones come out Just like what happens when newer model TVs come out Just like what happens when newer model cars come out See the trend? It applies to most everything in life.
We will get a price cut but next consoles won't be cheap. Same happened to the ps3. Ps2 had a price cut but the ps3 had a 600$ price tag xD so It's not about price cut. It's about the specs and specs shows that ps4 won't be cheap. People buy phones for 650$ so even if they put 500$ it's more reasonable then phones because of the specs. We don't know everything about it but the specs they revealed tell us it will be at least 400$.
There's obviously going to be the basic version with the console and controller only with the price that will appeal "in broader sense" and the premium version with a game or the PS eye and whatnot which will be more expensive but with more value.