New Source possibly confirms Durango features – “100% BC, no always-on feature ever considered”

A new source, found by NeoGAF member Cheesemeister, has potentially confirmed the final release specifications and features of Microsoft's upcoming Durango console. And these features are more than what any fanboy could have hoped for.

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NastyLeftHook01587d ago

just wait for the facts, not speculation.

Good_Guy_Jamal1587d ago

Oh so NOW people want to do the sensible thing and wait until Microsoft confirms.
I wonder why that is. Why the change in approach to rumors folks?

iGAM3R-VIII1587d ago (Edited 1587d ago )

Very true, it is because when the rumours is going against them, they feel like it will have an advantage against them. Though mind you, the way you reacted makes you in the image as a Xbox fanboy so in theory you would both be in the wrong so next time I would just suggest not saying anything

Anyway when he says "Durango will be running Windows 8" this will be very interesting. I would want to see how that works out and everything else isn't really new things. This could be the most legit leak possible.

BUT he does say that he was TOLD these rumours which means that this could be less credible.

Nevertheless, if these rumours are true, it would be good to see how MS can utilize these features.

Damn E3 just has to be in June. and the MS reveal and rumoured PS4 reveal have to be in May -_-

reynod1587d ago (Edited 1587d ago )

I am a PC gamer hence not biased to ward any of the consoles. I think PS fans on this site have been rather biased and unreasonable.

When there is a bad rumor for the Xbox they will pretty much rejoice at it, however when a good rumor surfaces most of them will say "oh let MS confirm" lol. Funny how any good rumor for PS is taken as confirmation.

There is actually high chance the next Xbox will feature BC. Reason being Xbox 360 was already very close to PC architecture.

Its hard emulating the CELL with its SPU's however, emulating a PowerPC such as the one on the Xbox 360 shouldnt a challenge to MS.

I would think there is a high chance the next Xbox actually offers BC.

blackstrr4111587d ago

When a sony fan sees something positive bout nextbox rumours they always say let wait for mc to confirm. Pathetic if u ask me

isarai1587d ago

Who says tentonsoftube is one of the same guys who took the other rumors as fact?

papashango1587d ago

good guy jamal...

good guy jamal indeed

talisker1587d ago

@reynod: if you call IBM PowerPC RISC processor from X360 "close to PC", you clearly have no slightest clue what you're talking about.

Good_Guy_Jamal1587d ago

@isarai, check out Hingle's post @1.2 for proof that Tentonsoftube has flip flopped his approach to rumors according to his bias.

Saigon1587d ago

From reading the post, it looks to be fake. After reading through the post, some of the wording is really off. Many times the author refers to MS as his company and then changes and says he is a developer developing a game on the platform. the other item that keyed me a little was that he was directly referring to the Durango. Last I check most leaks referred to the Next Xbox directly and not the development system. Also, some items made no sense what so ever, the 360 SoC combined with the current x86 processor would require a substantial cost to apply development tactics as well as create/manufacture the system.

This is the reason why i would like MS to just release something about the system. At least confirm its existence or provide something because we are going to get fanboys releasing content based on the applied rumors. Other than that we need to wait until the speculative meeting in May or E3.

Peppino71587d ago

Its great news regardless.!

malokevi1587d ago

Positive news? Lets not react hastily, now...

lol. Did I just say that.... N4G?

Boody-Bandit1587d ago (Edited 1587d ago )

I'm a 360 gamer and have been saying all along always-on isn't a deal breaker for me. The only rumor I was/am concerned about is the ability to play used and rental games. As long as MS supports them. I'm golden.

I also have said I'm waiting for E3. I don't buy into rumors, only facts. E3 can't get here soon enough so we will ALL know fact from fiction. WOW what this place will turn into if all these (always-on and wont support used or rentals) rumors were indeed nonsense.

Either way I am so looking forward to next gen. I'm in the process of upgrading my gaming room while waiting on it's arrival.

sikbeta1587d ago

Ohohohohoho! all dat trolling for no reason lol guess some of those who wanted to believe all the bad rumors will hide for some time ;)

SlapHappyJesus1587d ago

Welcome to N4G.

It's only speculation if it's not confirmed and not pro-Sony related.

Dee_Cazo1587d ago

I was going to just comment on this and put "lolz"

but man

superterabyte1587d ago

Actually everyone has been saying wait till Microsoft says something. Including me. Oh and for good measure what do you guys plan on playing next gen?

GameSpawn1587d ago (Edited 1587d ago )

To those saying PowerPC cannot be emulated on an x86 architecture... Apple's Rosetta say's "HI!".

However, Rosetta applications run like a giant turd. It was only meant to transition PPC users to Intel slowly and give developers time to create Universal binaries or purely Intel ones. Apple has since dumped Rosetta in 10.7.x and up.

So, Microsoft "could" do it in software, but it will either run very slow and/or have "glitches".

The only real solution for Microsoft to have 100% BC is to actually put an Xbox SoC (System on a Chip - a combination of the current Xbox PPC CPU and its GPU) in the system along side the x86 hardware (much like Sony did with the PS2 hardware in the first PS3s). This probably won't happen due to the insane overhead involved in the cost of the system and also the heat that would inevitably be generated -- I'm sure you don't want "RRoD-gate 2.0".

bangshi1587d ago

OK so here are some reasons this is a fake.

- He/she claims to not know a lot of things. This is because he/she does not need to know those things. If the person is legit, then that is fine - there is a good chance you only get told what you need to know. However, on that basis - he or she cannot say with any degree of certainty that always-online was never considered. Because he or she said themselves many times in the pastebin, that they don't know everything.

It is therefore likely that they would also not know if at any point it was every considered.

I bet you it was. It is a very, very strong anti-piracy measure. They may not have gone through with the idea, but to say it was never considered? Don't believe it for a moment.

In planning you go all-out. You bring poor ideas to the table, you bring outlandish ideas to the table. Why? Because they can be worked on, fleshed out and turned into a good idea with work or it can spark someone else to say 'ah yeah good idea, but what if instead of xyz we do xyy'.

Another reason is that this person claims to be a Software Engineer but not a game developer.

On that basis, he or she either works for a company developing apps (ie. Netflix) or develops tools/engines for game companies. They don't know about the OS. Netflix devs would as they have to integrate with it - so that only leaves a tools or engine software engineer.

That person would know about how the 360 SoC integrates with the 720. No question. They have to know every in and out of the console.

And even if they weren't told, they would want to know.

Hell even many people on here who are just laymen want to know.

But he/she is dismissing it as no big deal.

Another reason - the controller. They know it looks the same, but feels different, but has never touched it. Bullshit.

One more reason - there is zero new information here, except that the 360 SoC can be utilised alongside the 720 SoC.

Everything else we already knew about. It just looks like they have read the leaked PDF from 2011 as everything in this 'leak' is in that document.

Saigon1587d ago

i don't get it, The rumors that were originally applied to the PS4 and Next Xbox came from very creditable sources. Such sources as Edge, Kataku, IGN, VG, Euro Gamer, NeoGaf, etc. They all seem to have similar rumors. We all considered them creditable, right.

With everything that has established in the last few weeks, we start receiving rumors from unknown sources. The funny part about this is that we are believing these unknown sources and stating their content to be true. My question is why? i don't believe the source because their are too many flaws. there is great content within this rumor posted, but if you look into where the info came from and how it was established, you will see it a fishy. 'Something Smells'. I just trying to figure out why the sudden change.

My stance is that we wait until MS confirms the details of their console. Sony has already confirmed the majority of the PS4 system and there is still more to learn.

Godz Kastro1587d ago

All of the sudden... Plus 1 Jamal

fr0sty1587d ago (Edited 1587d ago )

Why assume that tentonsoftube was one of those people who was jumping to conclusions before? That only makes you look stupid if it isn't true. If it is, providing evidence would be a good idea.

KwietStorm1586d ago

Lol why does someone always act like one voice of reason is flip flopping? Like they speak for everyone?

adorie1586d ago

Sigh. Regardless of what rumors, we should always wait for the facts. I'm going to come back and see disagrees but that's okay, there's plenty of irrational people on this site which kills any surprise for going against logic.

In the spirit of things, everyone gets a bubble, then I'm gone.

brich2331586d ago

Because its to good to be true, lol

asmith23061586d ago

That is not true at all. Any recent article I have seen about the PS4 or next Xbox has always been filled with people saying wait for an announcement. Stop trying to get a dig in at something that wasn't there.

andibandit1586d ago (Edited 1586d ago )


I read the post right after reading your comment. The difference in wording is because the author refers to diffrent sources. Also i could find a single sentence where the author refers to ms as his company.....please give an in context example

On a personal note, ill believe it when the words come out ms mouth

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blackmagic1586d ago (Edited 1586d ago )

Emulators to run powerpc software on x86 processors such as pearpc and sheepshaver have been around forever, run fast and are extremely stable and a new ati gpu being able to run code for an old ati gpu is obviously going to be easy. Backwards compatibility seems like a no-brainer to me.

AlphaJunk1586d ago

I am a M$ fan and don't see the problem or why anyone else is concerned or has a problem with what I support or how I spend my freakin' money. I'm pretty sure anyone that is making my product choices their concern should be worried about themselves and why they care what I am buying since it is really only a consumer product.

NewMonday1586d ago

this sounds more realistic than previous rumors, but their are 2 sticking points to this:

* how can the separate 360 SOC add to the overall Durango power without complicating development just to get about 15% extra power?

* how can the games for windows tie to the Durango marketplace? do they have one royalty rate and one submission process?

MysticStrummer1586d ago

"Oh so NOW people want to do the sensible thing and wait until Microsoft confirms.
I wonder why that is. Why the change in approach to rumors folks?"

As if MS fans haven't done the exact same thing, just in the opposite way. They've rejected negative rumors as hearsay, then pointed at positive rumors and squealed with joy. Let's keep it real.

ziggurcat1586d ago

@ good_guy_jamal

"Oh so NOW people want to do the sensible thing and wait until Microsoft confirms.
I wonder why that is. Why the change in approach to rumors folks?"

oh, so NOW you're choosing to accept this rumour as fact just because it contradicts the negative rumours...

JP13691586d ago

I like how you say that as if he must be a Sony fanboy since he wants to wait for MS to comment. The article states that the VGLeaks are accurate about everything except the 360 SOC, which would mean this new rumor corroborates the old rumor of the new Xbox being slower than PS4. So I ask you, why would anyone that's asking for us to wait for confirmation have any ulterior motive against MS? His response is nothing more than the sensible reply to what is basically the same basic rumor. Backwards compatibility isn't that big of a deal. I use it just as much on my Slim PS3 as I did on the fat, which is never. If MS does offer it, good for them. Having said that, it's not as if that's the thing that will sway the market in their favor if they don't already have a lot of other things going for them.
P.S. To anyone that actually thinks a CPU/GPU from 2005 is going to add significantly to the power of the system, you're kidding yourself. It'd be great if they could use it to run kinect and OS though.

Army_of_Darkness1586d ago

Cool... Now I won't have to feel sorry for the xbox 720 owners;-)