Submitted by DavePSU 778d ago | opinion piece

5 Great Franchises That Sales Killed

"Great games don’t always directly result in great sales. Unfortunately this sad fact is one that many developers have to live with and it often leads to them taking less and less risks because it could result in job loss and franchises being put out to pasture." - Velox (PS3, Wii, Xbox 360)

Captain Qwark 9  +   778d ago
darksiders, too human, banjo kazoozie nuts and bolts, halo wars, lost odessy and i agree on mirrors edge and kingdom. damn shame none of these got sequels. they werent perfect and in some cases ( too human ) needed a lot of work but i seen the potential
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grailly  +   778d ago
ensemble was closed before halo:wars launched, so I'm not really sure the sales affected anything
Captain Qwark 9  +   778d ago
true as that may be, had the sales chart been set on fire by it they still would have had a sequel even if someone else did it. that didnt happen so here we are, no more halo wars which imo, is the best rts ever on a console
Zeusprototype  +   778d ago
@captain, really? i personaly thought the supremem commanders and commands= and conquers smashed it
MaxXAttaxX  +   778d ago
I don't think it was sales that ruined Nuts and Bolts.
Septic  +   777d ago
Nuts and Bolts is a brilliant game. Really innovative and actually a lot of fun to play.
Typical-Guy  +   778d ago
I totally agree about Too Human, it had potential but Silicon Knight blew it....

As for Halo Wars, I'd die for another game.
ToZanarkand86  +   778d ago
Biggest tragedy in the history of the world.
Urusernamesucks  +   777d ago
Ahh Halo Wars, i cant stop playing that game up to this day. I got that "ready for the sequel" achievement, but it never came :,(
SilentNegotiator  +   777d ago
Banjo-Kazooie:N&B failed because it sucked. Microsoft decided that they needed to force XBL into the IP, and it thus became a vehicle game with wonky physics instead of the very much suggested platformer of its initial unveiling ( https://www.youtube.com/wat... - See all of those cars? No? You see jiggies, honeycombs, and music notes? Interesting!).

I'm glad BK:N&B failed miserably.
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Septic  +   777d ago
You're glad it failed miserably? Are you a gamer or just a keyboard warrior more concerned about the politics behind the industry?

And I don't know what you're on about but Banjo-Kazooie:N&B certainly didn't suck. It was a brilliant game that was really innovative.

"See all of those cars? No? You see jiggies, honeycombs, and music notes? Interesting!). "

What's so interesting about a brief intro trailer not of the game but showing a return of the franchise?

Everyone gives stick to RARE (or MS) for the Kinect games but VIVA PINATA and Nuts and Bolts are great examples of the developers providing something innovative and different.
SilentNegotiator  +   777d ago
I prefer that bad games fail so that the industry does not make more them. That's how capitalism works, junior. And a bad game that does something "different" is still a bad game.
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Septic  +   777d ago
Oh how righteous of you to wish for failure for a game that YOU didn't enjoy but others did. Whilst N&B may have suffered from problems, it wasn't a bad game and certainly never 'sucked' as you so eloquently put it.

Ah never mind, I suspect that any attempts by me to instill some understanding in you will be fruitless.
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edonus  +   777d ago
Too human had a decent foundation and it ended right when it was starting to get really good. Just a few design choice that series could be great.
Darksiders was kind of a diamond in the rough, I remember people just talking about it out of no where. I think if it got more attention based on the what the game is instead of how much people like it it could have faired better.
BK nut & bolts is just a great game but its window for success is just really small. Its a cartoonish bear so all the blood and gore folks arent going get it, its so different from the originals you cant get fans of the series in, its way to advanced so kids wont get it. Youre looking for a very rare form of gamer thats just purely motivated by deep gameplay and likes to try new things.
Lost Odessy is one of the best Jrpgs ever made....ever. Its failure was based on the conditions of the industry and markets. Japan doesnt support the 360 so the place where one of the greatest Jrpgs ever made is suppose to sell the most sells nothing.
Halo Wars was ensembles swan song they were already dead Halo Wars actually did some great numbers for a console RTS.
Mirrors Edge is just in a very competitive genre being a FPS it sold good enough but a sequel would be contending against the like of COD, Far Cry, Halo, Bioshock, Killzone and more even though its very different from them all.

This gen had a lot of great games.
EditorAtGNG  +   777d ago
Not to nitpick here but Mirror's Edge, Too Human and Halo Wars cannot be considered a franchise. Maybe a beginning of one if there was a sequel but since there was not...
knifefight  +   778d ago
This is why those "Heh, I don't work for (company name) so I don't care about sales" comments are completely off the mark. If something doesn't sell well, kiss future prospects goodbye =/ It doesn't always reflect the quality of the game, no, but when I like something, I also like to see it sell well.
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Captain Qwark 9  +   778d ago
agreed! sales are important, as much as games can be "art" they are also a business too. too many people fail to see that
Why o why  +   778d ago
Yeah but sales were used as fanboy fodder. Like a game had to sell halo or gran turismo numbers to be considered good or successful. People weren't caring about the wellbeing of the devs/studios when they were saying x didn't sell. It was just more bs.

If a game turns a profit then its all good and a success in my eyes. Its unfortunate for those which don't so sales do matter but not in the context some were spewing.
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franko  +   778d ago
Kids today. Playing only retarded cod.
Captain Qwark 9  +   778d ago
im not crazy about COD myself but they are solid games every year. don't like it don't play it, no need to waste your time or others bashing it or the people who only play it though
ILive  +   778d ago
I think he is right about cod in a way. It sells millions every year where some games struggle to get to a million. It is not about liking cod or not. It has had both negative and postive impact on the industry. But its mostly negative, though.
Zeusprototype  +   778d ago
@ilive fully agree with you, theres a generation of gamers who think cod is the be all and end all of FPS'S or wargames. Dont get me wrong i love the games but its causes gamers to be ignorant.
tubers  +   777d ago
Yeah.. specially that "kid" down the block I know who only plays cod on xbox.. the rest of his life so far; med student with a smoking hot blonde gf.
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ApolloTheBoss  +   778d ago
I wouldn't count Mirror's Edge out just yet. Anyone remember when Ben Cousins said DICE was making Mirrors Edge 2 last year?
Veni Vidi Vici  +   778d ago
Mirror's Edge 2 will happen, and when it does, it will sell well...that is, unless they do something to ruin it. The first game was very good. It just needed some options, variation, a little more/better gun play, etc.

Of that list though, ME2 is the game I want most.
FrostyZipper  +   778d ago
Forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Mirror's Edge 2 confirmed a while ago? IIRC development's on hold, but not cancelled.
DavePSU  +   778d ago
I think it depends what school of thought you want to go with. EA obviously canned the game in February of 2011. However, in May of 2012, some resumes showed they had worked on Mirror's Edge 2 in some capacity. Whether or not this was pre-EA Canning the game or post-EA canning the game is up for debate.

In November, it was rumored that Mirror's Edge 2 was absolutely in development at DICE, but nothing was confirmed or announced regarding the game.

If anything is going to happen, it'll probably be at E3, but as far as "facts" are concerned, EA did can the project in 2011.
thawind  +   778d ago
I really want to see another Heavenly Sword please Sony.
kevinsheeks  +   778d ago
Yesss my goodness please follow up that ending still lingers in my head it felt so unfinished -.-

i wish the right games would sale not dissing games like cod i like it but i hate to see creative franchises die for more of the same -.-
CanadianTurtle  +   778d ago

I still can't believe Dead Island sold more than R3. Dead Island is one of the worst games I've played this gen
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Zeusprototype  +   778d ago
How was it? please back up that comment.
CanadianTurtle  +   777d ago
I have excellent connection and the game still lagged up. The controls were clunky and the combat system was very bland because it was mostly melee attacks, and hours of monotone hack n' slash gameplay. Yes you did get guns but the bullets weren't as common. Again, the monotonous combat system didn't help either.

Graphics looked very buggy and washed out. Game looked plain ugly at many points. I don't know why that is, but maybe it could have been because I was playing the PS3 version.

Oh and did I mention that the over-usage of zombies in video games is getting a teeny bit tiresome?
Alcohog  +   778d ago
I would rape several chickens in exchange for Mirror's Edge 2.
Tonester925  +   778d ago
BackBreaker could've been huge!
Jagsrock  +   777d ago
yep too bad the developers didn't know what to do with their own tech. Instead of making a fun sim type unlicensed game like Allpro football 2k8 that could have competed directly with Madden they decided to make arcadey game with frustrating controls.
Venox2008  +   778d ago
Binary Domain
God Hand
Shadows of the damned

I really hope that sequels will be made one day
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Zizi  +   778d ago
I looooooooooove Mirror's Edge. It is one of the greatest games this decade. It's innovative and fun. :D
Septic  +   777d ago
Yes this! Sign the petition people!
Fixlarz  +   778d ago
Bulletstorm? No. Mirror's Edge? Yes. BUT. Dice have said they might have some interest left in the series after they stop cranking out Battlefield games. Unfortunately with BF4 in the horizon it seems less and less likely to happen... :(
Dmd  +   778d ago
So those were one-single-game franchises?
Panthers  +   777d ago
Psyconaughts? (sp) I never played it but I really want to. I hear that was an amazing game.
wenaldy  +   777d ago
So, does Mirrors Edge regarded as a franchise? smh
DavePSU  +   777d ago
Franchise: authorization granted by a manufacturing enterprise to a distributor to market the manufacturer's products.

Yes. A lone game is a franchise.
gobluesamg  +   777d ago
I had an amazing time playing Kingdoms. It was a totally different animal than Skyrim. The combat was way more fluid and engaging. The colors in the world were amazing as well. I really wish they could of had an opportunity for a follow up.
whamlollypop7  +   777d ago
EA and Kurt Schiling screwed that franchise.
whamlollypop7  +   777d ago
I have a feeling that Darksiders will get picked up. It sold well but THQ was in murky waters.
Anomander  +   777d ago
Heck I'll go back two generations and throw out Shadow Man. I always thought that game deserved a follow up! And since Too Human was mentioned we might as well add a Eternal Darkness sequel!
ChickenOfTheCaveMan  +   777d ago
Heavenly Sword could have sold more and break even if they would have trophy patched the game. I guess they didn't believe in the game.

I'm pretty sure Sony will put it in the hands of Sony Santa Monica and we'll see a Heavenly Sword 2 on PS4.

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