The US software giant has developed a unique User Interface which will let users enjoy a 3D experience with wearing any glasses. The system is based on an advanced Omni-spatial Gesturing input mechanism.
This doesn't actually come with the 720 though... Right? I mean, if so that would be awesome. Though I'm pretty sure it said this was for all sorts of devices and wasn't specifically for the 720.
So basically Microsoft is including all the stuff we DON'T want into a next gen console. * 3DS already has this tech and I love my 3DS but never use it. It's almost gimick. * Nobody outside of maybe 200 small children actually want Kinect 2.0 We are going to have to pay for both...if....you purchase the new box. I'd rather them think outside the box.
199 small children. Get it right dammit!
I dont even want Kinect but it does gives developers options. Skyrim, Mass Effect and especially FIFA and Madden integrates Kinect well into the experience granting greater immersion http://www.youtube.com/watc... but obviously Fanboys can't think outside of the box. and obviously a facebook-esque profile page on the PS4 that forces you to use your real name is obviously what gamers want in their next gen system *rolls eyes* @BrunoM. Another gimmick that adds nothing to the core experience so excited
SJP I see what your "trying" to say but very poor job at it and as far as you HAVING to use your real name on the new ps4 UI that's a lie even them selfs said If you wanna keep using you user name and avatar you can as easly do that .. But hey fanboys and haters will hate
Its odd, the people whom assuming makes an ass of... I can't wait to get my hands on the new Kinect. Didn't go for it this gen. but with universal inclusion with every Xbox and improved hardware, I'm looking forward to great things. Not to mention I'll never need a freekin XboxLive microphone again, because I can just yell at my Xbox... :D If they can manage 3d without glasses on massive HD TVs, my jaw will drop and I will subsequently jump for joy. But, somehow that feels like a rumour to me... I'll believe it when i see it. Anyone who doesn't see the potential in this thing is suffering from serious tunnel vision. Edit: ohhh i see its just for the UI. STILL that would be so cool flipping through a 3d menu, sans glasses, with a flick of my hand.... bwahahahaha! edit again: "a 3D experience with wearing any glasses.".... and this is why the article lacks credibility.
"3DS already has this tech" If this were to be true, the 3DS wouldn't have this tech at all. The 3DS works off a the limited parallax barrier effect, something that would never work on a living room TV.
whoa...You guys want 3D ? You want Kinect ? I'll stick to solid story, gameplay and a cool art style over 3D and kinect any day.
@SJPFTW ".... PS4 that forces you to use your real name is obviously what gamers want in their next gen system *rolls eyes*" Facebook integration is optional, NOT forcing you to share your name with everybody, and is only visible to to your friends.
And just like that, 80% of people on n4g claim 3D is terrible and pretend they always thought it was a gimick! Ps. This is one rumour i really cannot believe
sad but true
3D --- I WANT 2D!!
Vibrant colors --- I WANT BLACK AND WHITE!!
Amazing graphics --- I WANT TEXT BASED GAMES!!!
What the hell, is the matter with you? you use to be all about the xbox, but now, man your just disgracefull. So you think that by kissing sony's ass you youll fit in better here, its not worth it man. Even if all your saying is realy meant, there are BETTER things than games.I LOVE GAMES btw and anything else is like frosting to that. Dont take this personaly btw, this goes to all those ex-fanboys such as Marcus_Phoenix.
to create a faux 3D effect? Sounds plausible. @andibandit You're ridiculous.
Always good to say no to something like Kinect 2 when you don't know what it's potential capabilities are. Some people don't want 4k TV..well guess what, such is the way of the future, new things will be developed and become more commonplace. Too bad for you!
@3-4-5 Dude, talk for yourself, if you didn't try it, how you know don't want it? how you can be sure it's not some great feature that can change the way you interact with the console...
@ SJPFTW "but obviously Fanboys can't think outside of the box. and obviously a facebook-esque profile page on the PS4 that forces you to use your real name is obviously what gamers want in their next gen system *rolls eyes* " where are you getting your information from? because that's not even remotely true/accurate. your attempt at trolling is a pretty big fail.
I call bullshit on glasses free 3D only because all 3D content is Glasses free if you have a Glasses free Monitor or Television. You cannot implement 3D in a Non 3D tv, so you can't turn a non glasses free tv into one.
Sony is bringing Move to PS4, i don't see anyone complaining about that. What is with the insane double standard on this site?
lol 200 small childrens, i have 0 interest on kinect but im not stupid enough to think only a handful of people like kinect, go to the mall and you see a bunch of people playing kinect go to a party and the one thing playing on the tv is a kinect, that thing sold more than 24 millions units now you do the math. 3D is a gimick it self you just lost it there but there is always way to improve a gimick and it is by eliminating those stupid glasses, and again you must be really stupid if you think MS will put a 3DS style of glassless technology on their console especially when its meant to be played on HD. Sony fanboys are extremely ignorant this year i mean they never seen beyond N4G this is their place but wow you must be a retard to think that kinect is pointless, an add-on to a console that sold millions... come on.
First of all, glasses-free 3D is display dependent. The Xbox 720 may be 3D capable, but without the display to support it, "no 3D for you". Perspective shifting using head tracking IS NOT 3D.
Sony is bringing Move to PS4, i don't see anyone complaining about that.
What is with the insane double standard on this site?
That would be a valid point, if the following points couldnt be made.
- Move is still a controller
- Its optional
Now the first point Kinect cant change. But people are reacting to the news Kinect WONT be optional, until its confirmed its is. Then you may have a point.
But until then its not really double standards is it?
3D glasses...seriously MS..seriously...that 3D thing is useless and ridiculous.
Ah comon, you know its cool.;p
Why would the console itself have specifically "Glasses-Free 3D" built in? Would it not have 3D in general and the TV itself would mean glasses-free or not? This rumor reeks of made-up-ness.
I don't think it's any kind of stereo-image that's usually marketed as 3D now a days, but a kind of head tracking, making it possible to move around to perceive third dimension... Something like Desktop VR displays, all you need is a camera (and Kinect already can track your head, it's just a metter of coding really). It can have pretty good results but the best is when you combine both the head tracking and stereo-images. Stuff really seens to come out of the screen.
i think a better thing to add-on would be those tv glasses, i don't know what they are called but i saw them at the EB games expo on the xbox, and i they were like normal glasses and you put them on and its like when you use binoculers (just without the maginification effect) playing halo reach, it was pretty cool, so maybe a gimmick like that would be better then this 3D stuff.
p.s if anyone knows anything about these glasses wether they are being sold or not, please tell me im thinking about buying myself a set hopefully they work on ps3.
@bishop If that's the sort of thing that they meant then calling it "glasses free" makes zero sense and sounds like it's coming from someone that has no idea what they're talking about. Either way, this rumor sounds made up.
Glasses free 3D still requires a spaecial glass if it was possible without the glass then we wouldn't need 3D tv's for 3D.
Well I don't like Kinect and 3D. I think they are both gimmicks. I'm more interested in resolution and frame rate. I'd rather M$ use their money and invest in in kick-ass hardware solutions like Sony has with the PS4.
Sound a pretty awesome. So the UI want look like widows 8? I hope this is true I hate the Metro look.
Isn't the UI in Windows 8..Metro? The square tiles and such. Those are already there for the current Xbox dashboard.
But the UI in 360 is actually very appealing to look at In the other hand metro from windows 8 is ugly and so dull
I'm sure they will keep up the high-customizability. Microsoft has really done a great job of refining the dashboard this gen. I doubt they will toss all of that out the window in favour of some ugly dark blue explorer Windows8-style dash.
Sounds really cool albeit unlikely. Here's hoping its true!
Remember that guy who came up with that amazing 3D effect using the Wii remotes and sensor bar? Where it presented a 3D effect on the TV screen by moving all the objects on it in relation to the position of the Wii remote? Microsoft could replicate the same thing with the Kinect sensor, where it adjusts and moves the UI on the screen based on the position of the viewer. So for example if you're sat in front of the TV and tilt/turn your head (maybe moves your eyes? apparently Kinect 2 can track eye movement) then Kinect could track this and move the UI as you do so, creating a pretty crazy 3D effect on the screen without the requirement for glasses. The same thing could be done in games too, but obviously require a lot more processing horsepower compared to doing the same thing with a simple UI. Edit: Here's a video example. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
It most likely is true, since I believe Microsoft picked up the guy shortly after that demo made a huge splash on news sites. He ended up joining the Kinect development team.
I've seen this before, and the effect is amazing, but isn't the problem with it that it only works for one person at a time?
How would this work with more than one person sitting in front of the Xbox?
Ah yeah I remember. Makes sense actually. Can't wait to see what MS pull off.
If that's all it is then I'm thoroughly unimpressed. This has been done before and isn't all that useful. I was working on 3d ui's about a decade ago and for the most part it's just eye candy that doesn't actually improve usability except for a few specific use cases.
Wow, just watched that Youtube video and that was very cool. If MS could pull that off for their next system UI and more importantly implement that in games then I would be on board.
this guy that invented that project with the wii after the video on youtube get that success....worked in ms as a researcher in 2008 and then moved in end 2011 for google http://www.microsoft.com/ap...
Looks kind of cool, though I do see the following problems:- A) The effect can only be seen by the 'single' person being tracked. -Not so bad if you tend to game alone admittedly. B) It's not 3D unless you move, i.e. you wouldn't see depth if you were sitting still like you would for 3D content on a 3D TV! -Generally when I'm navigating a UI or playing a game I do so without wobbling my head about all over the place! :/
@Kratos_Kills "How would this work with more than one person sitting in front of the Xbox?" It doesn't he said it in the video although he said its a more immersive experience for the one using it and you can clearly see it when he puts it in the camera and more importantly it doesn't require a 3D TV, we really dont know anything MS has done with this tech we will have to wait and see how its work if its true.
like the early playstation move demos yeah
I think he might mean this one http://www.youtube.com/watc...
This sounds pretty cool.
Looks like they added support for a smart phone or tablet device to control the new system. Basically a more advance form of their smart glass tech. Too bad I hate touch controls, though this should allow for Wii-U/ps4 remote play capability without being limited to a certain device.
They are basing this off of a patent? Nowhere did i read that it was said that the 720 would have this. So many cool patents applied for and actually owned by both companies but only like 3% of those patents ever get used. This sounds like its fishing for hits.
If you go back and look at he leaked xbox 720 documents from last year they are showing Augmented Reality 3d glasses this may be true.
"Glasses-Free 3D UI" That made me laugh.... EDIT: And for the people who don't understand why...glasses free 3D is technology that is inside a TV. There are prototypes of them so they do excist. But claming the new Xbox somehow can transform your 3D tv to show 3D images without the use of 3D glasses.... Well that is just funny...hilarious even! :D
Kinect sensor. I am aware of the glasses free 3d technology that is out there. But it is still possible now with Kinect, and one player and no glasses. Not saying that this rumor is true, but it is 100% possible tech.
It wouldn't be real 3D. You don't get 3D out of a console. It has to be part of the TV.
How is one illusion "real 3D" and another illusion isn't? Wouldn't "real 3D" be actual objects in a three-dimensional space? That said, this method does not create a different perspective for each eye, so it's going to be a lot more subtle unless you're bouncing around on the couch.
What you are talking about is no different than any game now. You move around in a 3d environment, whether you cause that movement with a controller or a camera is irrelevant. Kinect is not magic, deal with it ;)
@shadow2797 If you were sitting still you wouldn't sense depth from this 'traking' method as you would sitting still watching a 3D film or 3D Picture on a 3D TV. Real 3D: Each eye recieves a slightly different image giving a sense of depth. (This is also true of 'actual objects in a three-dimensional space' with each eye seeing a slightly different image) Tracking: Each eye recieves same image so no sense of depth, however when you move your head the screen will alter to give the impression of seeing in to a 3D world. I fully expect disagrees again but the above facts are true. If you are happy to run around or wobble your head in order to gain the imppression of 3D then great but its not for me!
Just jealous it would seem.... Well I guess you can't win them all!!!! Lol
I own all consoles :)
Then you do win!!! lol
I just want to play games...
I second that opinion . all this extra stuff is smothering/gimmiky/sidetrackin g the point we just want a to play games.
Then do it? Nobodys stopping you!
They don't seem to get that. All my game boy pocket did was play games.. And it played games well, but if they gave me a gameboy pocket with a 1080 camera.. I wouldn't say no, I'll take it and smile :)
I don't get it! So 3d without 3d tv? I hope so
Kind of... From what I understand, Kinnect will track your head position and the picture will adjust based on it. It's a pretty neat concept. It's kind of like a more advanced version of the head tracking in Gran Turismo 5 (sorry, I don't know of any other game that uses it although I'm sure there are).
Sounds cool, but will it sell? I mean we saw 3d tv, people were not so excited about. But this sounds like some different type of 3d,3d but with interaction (minority report like) maybe this is will work great in combination with that iluminroom thing we saw earlier.
Glasses-free 3D UI? Sounds fake to me. Real 3D would be part of the TV, not the console. So if it has a 3D UI all it really would be is something faking it.