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Submitted by iGAM3R-VIII 369d ago | rumor

XBox 720 to Support Streaming Digital Downloads

Gaming News on Good e-Reader? Well, normally we never report on consoles or gaming apps, but we can’t help it when we have some juicy news. A confirmed source has informed us about the upcoming plans regarding XBox’s digital download distribution service.
One of the big aspects of the next generation of hardware is that the consoles will have expanded support for digital downloads.

One of the ways Microsoft’s XBox team is refining the next generation will be allowing players to run games as the game is downloading. Normally, when you download a game on the existing generation of consoles, or even Steam, you can’t play the game until its fully downloaded. The Xbox 720 will let you play the game, as long as you meet a certain data threshold. If you are downloading a AAA title, and it is around 10 GB of data, and you will be able to start playing the game once you hit a 2GB limit. (Xbox One)

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DEEBO  +   369d ago | Well said
lol sony show them the way.
GribbleGrunger  +   369d ago
I don't know about Sony showing them the way but the more I read about the nextbox, the more I realise that there is going to be very little difference between the two. Even the add on 360 for the Nextbox is something that looks remarkably like the Sony patent. I'm not saying anyone is copying; I'm saying that both console manufacturers seem to have similar goals.
andrewsqual  +   369d ago
Just like the way there was/is no difference in 2006 or today in the 360 and PS3.
gaffyh  +   369d ago
Well if you have two equal or similar platforms, what it comes down to is exclusives, and we all know that Sony has MS beat in that respect, simply in terms of amount of first and second party studios. Add to that the influx of Indie developers due to Sony's Pub Fund, and I honestly cannot see what MS can offer gamers other than Halo, Gears, Forza and Fable. I've got a feeling they will try and get timed DLC exclusivity deals for COD, and give Activision a lot of money for it.
nukeitall  +   369d ago
@gaffyh:

That is the thing, everybody assumes the platform is similar, but it really isn't.

MS is master of software, and they have proven that by rewamping the Xbox 360 dashboard multiple times. They have vastly improved many aspects of Xbox Live.

Then we have Kinect as well and now their focus on other forms of entertainment.

People keep talking about exclusives, but they don't matter as much. We have seen that time and time again.

It just boils down to quality games and now approachable platform.
rainslacker  +   369d ago
@nuke

I think Sony has provided plenty of proof they are capable and willing to provide quality software over the course of 3 console generations. I also think MS has proven that they can provide quality software as well. When it comes to quality games both have a proven track record. The only real difference is people's preference in what kind of games they want.

I couldn't care less about the dashboard or the XMB when I'm playing a game, but, I do recall Sony being highly praised over the XMB on it's release. I won't deny that it's become somewhat sluggish over the course of the generation, but I'd imagine that is likely due to memory constraints on the OS.

All that being said, Exclusives matter to me. Or rather, most Sony exclusives are good enough for me to care about them. If they went multi-plat I wouldn't be fussed over it because a good game is a good game. I want them to do well if they're good, but I couldn't care less how many they sell to decide if they're worth my time or money.

@Gribble
I do believe they're taking a different approach in appealing to different markets. These markets do seem to have a lot of correlation though.

I won't speculate on the specs part, because it's still rumor for one, and limited details for the other.
nukeitall  +   368d ago
@rainslacker:

I think that is a fair assessment. I somewhat do care about sales in the sense that I play online a lot now more than ever. I never thought I would, but I do, but the sales affect the community size.

I haven't touch the single player portion of many of the games, because I now play so much online.

A game that has a full lobby, people communicating and vibrant community is now more important than ever.

So a platform that offers the tools to easily connect and play with others is vital. That is why I'm willing to pay for Xbox LIVE.

It automatically tells me how many gamers play a game I want to play, gives me party chat to easily schedule a game or wait for a game to be available and makes it superbly fast to patch a game (small download size, and no need to even restart the game, it hot patches on the spot).

My point being four things:

a) online community size and friends list i.e. I make a friend and he uses a free account and never shows up again. I want to have people on my friends list that play a lot, so I have a good pool of people to play with and they all need to have microphones. I'm not into the silent communication thing.

b) features and ease of use matters even if it isn't directly in-game, unless all you do is play single player games. That said it is part of the experience.

c) apps and other forms of entertainment are also consumed by me. I use my Xbox almost exclusively for entertainment, such as Netflix, Vevo and so on.

d) Exclusives are nice, but they aren't as important, because there are plenty of great games released by third party. The more the merrier, but a few less isn't noticeable, as long as I have quality games I would like to play.

but, yeah, sorry about the wall of text. You probably won't read it all. :D
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jimbobwahey  +   368d ago
Exclusives are important for me personally because that's the main thing that separates the two consoles, although the rumors of the next Xbox supposedly having a backwards compatibility solution is very important to me too.

Personally speaking I'm really fond of Halo, Gears of War and Forza more than the exclusive games on my PS3, so provided Microsoft doesn't screw something up spectacularly, my preference in their exclusive offerings (combined with BC) have me leaning heavily in favor of choosing the next Xbox over the PS4.
Irishguy95  +   368d ago
Bleh, the 360's only real win over the Ps3 has been it's system software and features. Xbox live/dashboard features have been amazing since it's release/ YOu have alot of people on this site who love trophies some who won't even buy games without them. MS had Achievements in from Day 1. Sony broguht them in later. MS had cross game chat and invite in day 1. They had 'press one button to see notification' since day 1 too. The main improvement MS have made is the 8 person party chat...other than that they had most of the best things about the Xbox which was ease of use...in from day 1.

Sony caught up to that eventually and are still a little behind without the chat.

But...well, Sony had more games. Nuff said for me.
rainslacker  +   368d ago
@nuke

I will admit, in my post I wasn't really considering multi-player. I'm probably the polar opposite of you in this regard. I rarely play the MP portion of games, and when i do it's usually not for very long.

Anyhow, in all these years, your reason for paying for XBL is about the only one that seems like it isn't some sort of defense, and is actually very reasonable. Connecting people is important when it comes to MP, otherwise it does tend to feel a bit barren. I can't speak to XBL as I don't have it, but I will admit that Sony could work on that a bit more, and hopefully we'll see that in the PS4. The Vita seems to be a step in the right direction, but it's not what I'd consider intuitive to the lay-man.

your points
a: can't speak to that. Seems rather anecdotal. I will have to disagree though, as it seems that a pay wall will eventually cause some people to go away just because they stop believing in the price of entry.

b: I agree

c: This one I understand. But again, I don't see how you should have to pay to use those apps. I know it's the most common reason people state that it's not worth it and it adds false value, but it seems those services should be free, particularly if NextBox wants to win the living room.

d: I think exclusives are important because they help define the systems. Nintendo is known for Zelda and Mario. MS is known for Halo, Gears, etc. Sony is known for GT, Uncharted, many PS1 IP's, etc. Third party is also important, but for the most part if it's available on any system, then when it comes to games, it's the exclusives which set a console apart. Other things that set consoles apart from one another is the services they provide, the user experience, and the overall social structure between them. All of it plays a part, and the exclusives are obviously important to a lot of people, which is why they exist.

np at the wall of text. I do it routinely.:)
nukeitall  +   367d ago
@rainslacker:

"a: can't speak to that. Seems rather anecdotal. I will have to disagree though, as it seems that a pay wall will eventually cause some people to go away just because they stop believing in the price of entry."

It is from personal experience. Heck, I have multiple accounts myself. It used to be worse before trophies though, as people werent even attached to their account.

That said, I haven't really noticed anyone stop playing on Xbox LIVE and shift to another platform because it is free. I mean PC has existed for a long time, and so have PSN.

However, yes, some people will turn away and some people will be barred from trying because of the fee. However, those that stick around are the ones I want to play with. They play enough that they are willing to pay.

This of course might shift in the future as MS introduces other services that people sign up for instead of gaming.

"c: This one I understand. But again, I don't see how you should have to pay to use those apps. I know it's the most common reason people state that it's not worth it and it adds false value, but it seems those services should be free, particularly if NextBox wants to win the living room."

It's kind of pointless to really discuss this. Why? Do you ask if the people that buy Coach handbags why they pay for it? Or if Nike shows are really better? Sure they are, and so is Xbox Live apps than many other platforms. They are tailored to the console by MS and the newest features appear on the platform so MS wants to be compensated for it. Netflix was first on Xbox and they are further moving in that direction. Some is a hit, others are not.

It's one of those things where it is a premium service.

My take on it is, if you don't like it, don't pay for it. Let the others that do, use it.

I don't complain about people buying Nike shoes or Coach handbags.

"d: I think exclusives are important because they help define the systems."

That is true in the past, when consoles was strictly about gaming. Now a days that is less and less true. The Wii didn't sell on the strength of Mari/Zelda, nor did Xbox 360's exclusive really move the needle late in it's lifecycle. The PS3 was early on sold almost strictly as a blu-ray player.

Point being that, it is overall a package of games (exclusives and mulitplatform), features, social integration, price, where your friends game, exciting technology and so on.

It certainly will be interresting.
The_Infected  +   369d ago
"10 GB of data, and you will be able to start playing the game once you hit a 2GB limit."

Wasn't the PS4 suppose to do the same thing but even quicker? I thought PS4 was suppose to let you play almost as soon as you start the download?
LOGICWINS  +   369d ago
Its SUPPOSED to, but we haven't seen this in effect yet. How good a person's Internet connection is will play a role.
Snookies12  +   369d ago
I doubt the PS4 would let you play it as soon as it starts downloading. It has to allocate some time to get things in order. The game would look like a mess if it tried to load open worlds and whatnot with only like 20 MB downloaded lol. (Unless of course Gaikai comes into effect. I could possibly see them having the entire game uploaded to the Gaikai database, and allowing you access to stream that while downloading the game yourself.)

Regardless, we'll have to wait and see just how much is needed to start playing. Either way, this is a great innovation no matter who came up with it first. It's good to see that both are embracing it.
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matrixman92  +   369d ago
if it let you start playing as soon as it started downloading...you would MAYBE get a sound effect before the game crashed lol
GribbleGrunger  +   369d ago
I honestly can't see how an open world game could use this, especially when some open world games give you complete access to the world from the moment you start.
a08andan  +   369d ago
Well I think that when doing this on ps4, when you start to download a game, you fill first begin playing it through Gaikai while files are being downloaded in the background. Once enough files has been downloaded it will switch over to the local files when you for example switch area in the game. Or sumthin like that :)
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GribbleGrunger  +   369d ago
Very good point, a08andan. I was actually discussing this possible solution with my son the other day. The only bone of contention is that Sony themselves said that it would download a portion of the game before it would be available to play. Now, if Gaikai WAS a possible solution, surely you would be able to begin playing immediately? We'll see though because it certainly 'sounds' like a feasible solution.
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bangshi  +   369d ago
Just look to World of Warcraft.

Let's you play with very, very little downloaded in advance.

I was actually shocked at how little you have to download.

So to those saying 'open world blah blah' it doesn't matter, it will download what it needs

I'm pretty sure Mark Cerny touched on it downloading the parts it needs to over bits it doesn't depending on what the player does.
rainslacker  +   369d ago
It would probably depend on the game itself.

World of Warcraft does this sort of thing. You are required to download a specific set of data required to just start the game, and then the actual resource data is downloaded in background. If you start up, or get to a place, that isn't downloaded yet, it will have a loading screen as it downloads the necessary data. It seemed to me that they could also predict which set of data you might need ahead of time based on where you were, and it would download that to make it as seamless as possible.

No two games are the same, so some sort of intelligent down-loader would be required. It's possible even downloading 2 of 10 GB's wouldn't give you the required files needed to play the game. However, in most cases, games are set up to where the resources are linear. Meaning that the down-loader could make a logical conclusion on which set of data is required next.

Edit: Should have scrolled down more. Bangshi already addressed WOW.
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@gribble. Well it would be safe to assume when downloading an open world title it would just download the map area first. Cut scenes, quests that don't appear til later in game can be downloaded later. Same for all audio. Even in a game like sky rim. You are not going to be able to do everything in 30 minutes.
humbleopinion  +   368d ago
Two different things:
Microsoft is letting you play games which are downloaded to your own harddrive, by basically preloading the first chunk of the game and launching it.
Sony is using cloud service to let you play (PS3) games without downloading them to your hard drive. Your PS4 is basically acting as a streamer in this regards, and the game itself is never downloaded to your console.
UnholyLight  +   368d ago
As much as I would like to believe the PS4 is able to let you play as soon as you start the download, I think maybe it's more a figurative statement but who knows. Like Snookes12 says, the whole Gaikai thing may make it possible..

Not to mention that this is also a vision, much like how PSN and Xbox Live have been constantly overhauled and improved over the years I am sure this service is one of those things. It probably WILL become instant someday, but who knows if that will happen at launch, year 1, year 2 etc?? If I remember correctly the Gaikai thing was working towards this type of integration and having some aspect of it at the beginning stages, but not the full thing! Correct me if I am wrong people :)
hesido  +   368d ago
This is all up to the developers. What the next gen consoles will do is to allow developers to let players start their game after necessary amount of data is downloaded. This will be possible as the underlying game OS will be providing them with the necessary "hooks" to the download mechanism of the consoles. The devs will probably be able to arrange and mark contents within the download archive and know precisely how much of the required parts have downloaded, courtesy of the console's OS.

If the developer doesn't use this functionality (they will be encouraged to use this, incentives may apply), this feature won't be used at all, it is not magic wand.
hesido  +   368d ago
@People thinking you will start playing stream from Gaikai. This doesn't make sense as the Gaikai stream will choke the bandwidth so much the actual game will not be able to download. If you have a fast connection that can do both, you may as well wait half an hour to download the whole game.

What will happen is, after minimum amount of data for starting the game is downloaded, the game will start. No gaikai streams, I assure you. Some type of games can really make good use of this, for example an RPG game will let you create your character while downloading the first chapter/world of the game. If you finish making your character early, you'd still have to wait.
extermin8or  +   368d ago
yeah the ps4 is suppossed to be able to use Gaikai to start streaming immediatly- then eventually once a certain amounts downloaded you can play off your system files- although they did say that the immediate play might not be available day one, but they did say the 1st part involving GAIKAI might not be a day 1 thing...
Jek_Porkins  +   369d ago
You realize that Microsoft probably had this in development long before Sony showed it off right? That is how console development works, they don't see what Sony does and say "We need to do that too!", there simply wouldn't be enough time.

Looks like Microsoft and Sony have the same ideas for going after just about every type of gamer and will offer similar experiences.
MasterCornholio  +   369d ago
" "We need to do that too!", there simply wouldn't be enough time. "

Which is why Sony purchased a firm that has been working on this tech since 2008.

"On July 2, 2012 shortly after rumors on the Internet started to appear, Sony Computer Entertainment announced that it had reached an agreement to acquire the cloud-based service for $380 million USD.[25]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Ever since i got fiber optics im extremely excited for this tech.
Mr_Writer85  +   368d ago
You realise that this story is from a website that don't report gaming news? If it ran a story with something bad to say about the Xbox you would dismiss the site for wanting hits.

Has any gaming website reported this? How come their sources can tell them about all the 'always online' and 'no used game' and 'Kinect/living room focus'.

But only the sourse for digital books/comics website knows of the streaming of digital downloads?

Now this could all be true, but if you question one news story with no evidence to back it up, surely you must do it for all of them?
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dcbronco  +   368d ago
@Mr_Writer85

Pimping gamers for hits on your site is a thing now. Gamers made EA the worst company in America while unemployment, foreclosures and corporate crime are at a all time high. Fanboy attitudes make for easy marks. Non-gaming sites will continue to use gamer because gamers allow it and because in the business world gamers are in that category that spends a lot of disposable cash. Even if you have a site that gamers won't spend on, your hits will show an advertiser that you get attention and your site will make more. Half of Forbe's articles seem to be gaming because after the more people realize that none of the "experts" have a clue. But a fanboy can still be pimped.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   369d ago
@Deebo Lol next gen consoles were gonna do it anyway.
turnerdc  +   369d ago
Lol, just like OnLive guided Sony? Share button, live spectating, game streaming, game recording, free trial with every game? Yup, all done by OnLive over 2 years ago. Also I'm sure this was done way before Sony and Microsoft even thought of it. The earliest I can remember is Blizzard allowing you to play your games after a certain limit while they were downloading. In the end though, EVERY company looks at others for ideas and inspiration. To deny that is just being a fanboy.
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ichimaru  +   369d ago
is that...Sense? Hey guys this man has common Sense! get him!!!
extermin8or  +   368d ago
difference is Onlive went under and the streaming from them was never as good as having the game downloaded :p
dcbronco  +   368d ago
Live streaming was done on Xbox a long time ago. PGR did it. Much further back than two years. So was uploading videos, which was done on computers over a decade ago. Falcon 4.0 did it. Often technology is developed by a third company and licensed to a bunch of competitors.
turnerdc  +   368d ago
Haha ichimaru, yes, sense, indeed a rare commodity among the N4G jungle!

What do you mean "went under" extermin8or? They went through a restructuring but are very much alive. The service actually hasn't had any major interruptions (except when the GameSpy servers went down but that was unrelated to their crisis and solely on GameSpy being sold) during this period either. Currently working my way through the Witcher 2 on the service!

Maybe so dcbronco. I'm sure you can point out several instances of what I mentioned being done before OnLive HOWEVER the implementation being used by Sony is nothing like these previous instances. Everything you pointed out is limited only to specific games or people with specific hardware/software. It's not built into the platform itself and requires much more work from the developers. We're talking about a universal ability to watch anyone play or upload videos without platform limitations on specific hardware/software or games. This is EXACTLY what OnLive provides. Doesn't matter if someone is playing Sonic 2 or the Witcher 2. Without any additional setup or hardware/software you can watch that person play and that person can record clips and upload them. Did OnLive get inspiration from previous companies before it? Of course, but their implementation is truly unique. Sony's implementation also seems to be VERY much like this. In the end you're helping my case by showing that EVERY company gets ideas and inspiration from other companies.
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dcbronco  +   368d ago
I wasn't trying to argue against you turnerdc. I agree. What Sony is doing is things that have been done before. They may be building it into the system but the rumors have been that Microsoft has been working on the same stuff for years. The DVR rumors for Xbox started on the 360. MS filed for a console DVR system back in 2007.

http://www.businessweek.com...

The share button is the only thing different that Sony is doing. The 360S has a APU. Made by Microsoft. The leak that MS had it's lawyers try to have removed from the internet showed multiple APU in a system for Apps and games separate. MS admitted it was theirs from 2010. SO none of it is new or different. Just some of the architectural approaches.
turnerdc  +   368d ago
My bad! Took your comment the wrong way. I see what you're saying now and definitely agree.
SatanSki  +   369d ago
You mean PC. Its nothing new. In recent history Diablo 3 had this feature at release.
Guwapo77  +   368d ago
And World of Warcraft way before that...
zebramocha  +   369d ago
@deebo funny,but not true,Ms and Sony will have similar features for their console so no one has major feature over the other.
Zhipp  +   369d ago
Steam lets you do this with some games too. It's the future. Next thing you know, even Nintendo will be announcing a similar feature.
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CynicalKelly  +   368d ago
Competition is magnificent. I would like to assume that Microsoft and Sony are pushing each other forward. Both have taken inspiration from each other and it has resulted in excellent consoles.
MYSTERIO360  +   368d ago
Im tired of hearing rumors and hearsay, MS come out and tell us already.....shesh
CEOSteveBallmer  +   368d ago
Let me make it clear for you guys before disagreeing with DEEBO. What he means is that Sony is the first to show "Play as you Download" which is really an awesome feature. Instead of waiting for your download to finish, You can play it partially as it completes the download. When the time you reach half of the game the download is finished that's what I think. Its very much the same for Streaming games like Onlive or sony's Gaikai.
IcicleTrepan  +   368d ago
Lots of PC games do this now. Sony didn't invent this.
dcbronco  +   368d ago
Deebo

Yeah cause movies haven't been doing this for a few years now. Some using Silverlight. A Microsoft technology.
nosferatuzodd  +   368d ago
Lol ha no wonder they can't show their system yet there to busy copying
This is Microsoft in their underground lab oh shot streaming while downloading why didn't
We think of that yeah gddr5 oh shit make changed make changes bunch a rip off
dcbronco  +   368d ago
So very sad.
THC CELL  +   369d ago
What games lol just kidding it's a great idea for all platforms.
fattyuk  +   369d ago
The wave of new kinect games they'll be rolling out!!
ichimaru  +   369d ago
OH snaps! you're so edgy XD
fattyuk  +   369d ago
Like Sony have already announced for the PS4 yeah?
fattyuk  +   369d ago
Made me chuckle the "disagree(s)"

This is a rumour, PS4 is fact.
Waller  +   369d ago
But you've dismissed it as Microsoft copying Sony. As someone said before, this isn't something you can just slap into a console at the last minute and call it a day. It's likely (if true) been in development for some time.
fattyuk  +   369d ago
I didn't dismiss that Microsoft have copied Sony lol you assumed that yourself :0)

there isn't anything in my original comment that even slightly suggests that what I meant!
ALLWRONG  +   369d ago
This is done through the cloud, something MS was involved with from the start. Sony just bought into cloud at the last minute.

MS = One of the innovators of cloud

Sony = follow MS (as usual)

I know you Sony guys so desperately need something to be yours, but no.
stage88  +   369d ago
@ALWAYSWRONG

Sony bought Gaikai ages ago and there has been widespread news about it's streaming games tech. For MS it's just hearsay.

PS. Just to make your blood boil, Playstation had Cloud Saves a long time before MS implemented it and Playstation's storage is much bigger than the 360's. Thought you should know that ;)
SatanSki  +   369d ago
I gave a disagree for stupid fanboy comment not becouse Sony didnt implement it.
BanBrother  +   369d ago
Good, I guess. They kind of have to at least match what Sony is offering for me to get one. Not trying to sound like 'that' guy, but I think we as gamers should expect at least this much. It's like giving a grown man a sticker for wiping his a$$.
Belking  +   369d ago
Xbox 720 is sounding awesome!
The_Infected  +   369d ago
So far it sounds pretty awesome. I just want to hear more about games and less about entertainment and Kinect.

Edit: Here's hoping to free Xbox Live next gen or features well worth the price.
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Belking  +   369d ago
"I just want to hear more about games and less about entertainment and Kinect."

Can't really do that until the console is announced. There will be new games just like when xbox and xbox360 were announced.
SatanSki  +   369d ago
Puhlease. We dont know a shit about Nextbox.
WeAreLegion  +   369d ago
If the PS4 and 720 are feature-for-feature the same device...I'd rather Sony and Microsoft make some sort of deal and release only one console. This is going to be incredibly stupid if they release the same system, but only have a few exclusives separating the two.

I mean, seriously... This is getting stupid.
pete007  +   369d ago
grat comment. the problem is that quality goes the drain if competition is only facing nintendo
GetSnooked  +   369d ago
But the problem is, with little competition they could set the price at whatever they want and no-one can do much about it. Competition forces companies to throw in better deals. Maybe if it weren't for Xbox Live, there's the possibility that Sony could have charged for online gaming.

Not saying you're wrong, just my opinion on the topic. :)
WeAreLegion  +   369d ago
Thanks for the replies, guys! Bubbles, all around.
Knight_Crawler  +   368d ago
Well said...I have both consoles but preffer my 360 for personal reasons but my 3 favorite games this gen are on the PS3 which are Uncharted, MGS4 and Heavy Rain - can this games be made on the 360, maybe but some compramises would have to be made.

Whta the set the PS3 apart from the 360 was the:

Built in Wifi
Blu Rey
The Cell
Free Online

Rumors have it that the 720 will have all of those stuff at launch plus more of what the PS4 will have spec wise.

Well I guess nex-gen will come down to exclusives, which Sony won this gen but who knows, maybe MS has learned something are going to surprise with a bunch of exclusives.
nosferatuzodd  +   368d ago
Rumors have it that the 720 will have all of those stuff at launch plus more of what the PS4 will have spec wise.
You really believe Xbox is going to give you free online play
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BigStef71  +   369d ago
Instead of arguing about which is better just buy both consoles people #DealWithIt
Godmars290  +   369d ago
Because - old, old argument - some people just want/can only afford one. Its also old and tired, like what's going on with Bioshock Infinite "Which Must Be Played!" that the people who think that want to cram the game down the throat of anyone who hasn't. Doesn't matter that those uninterested remain so no matter what.

For me, the Xbox brand at this point is a turn off because of its focus on multiplayer and the XBL paywall, just like not having those things are someone else's reasons.
Hellsvacancy  +   369d ago
I could afford both, im not greedy though, and I dont want my living room to be cluttered up with machines etc

I love gaming, but not that much I feel the need to own every console available
CEOSteveBallmer  +   368d ago
Yeah Not all people can afford both machines even if it reached price cut in the future. Why? because lets say yes we bought the PS4 and 720. But they have different exclusives so it will very much burn your wallet for buying both exclusives. So you need only to choose one since both have multiplat so its not painful even if you need to choose one. Just a little sacrifice of exclusives
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artdafoo  +   369d ago
Yup, i can almost taste that " always on confirmation "
whoyouwit04  +   369d ago
how the hell can you taste in always on conformation when Sony is doing the same thing? I guess you can taste Sony confirming always online as well.
Why o why  +   369d ago
Ha ha. Less of the projecting please. Even though nothings been confirmed or denied there's no reason to think Sony will do the same thing that is being rumoured other than your hope
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hawkeyejonjon  +   369d ago
@whoyouwhit04 When did Sony confirm PS4 to be Always Online? The day after Sony announced the PS4 they said you can play games offline which if it was always online you won't be able to play games offline. I would like to know when they confirmed PS4 to be Always Online when they said you can play offline.

An Always Online console = need internet connection at all times to play a game

If always online was confirmed on PS4 it would have filled up the news sections on every gaming website.
josephayal  +   369d ago
Microsoft has created a High end console that just keeps getting better and better
GetSnooked  +   369d ago
Just remember rumours are rumours. We don't know how amazing/disappointing it is yet.
AkatsukiPain  +   369d ago
I go with the company that delivers new games from the beginning of its life cycle all the way to the end of its life cycle. This is why I will choose ps4. Why limit yourself to a console that relies on 3rd party games u can also get on other systems? For example sony has Guacamelee, Puppeteer, The Last of Us, Beyond Two Souls, which are all new ip's. Name me any new ip's coming out for the 360 of this quality. Its been 4 years and the only good new ip they have coming is State of Decay which we dont know will it be good or not.
ichimaru  +   369d ago
.....congratulations
ma1asiah  +   369d ago
People do realise that MS nor SONY are the first to do this type of thing. Blizzard as one example already allow you to do this with their digital downloads
leogets  +   369d ago
yeah but that's irrelevant to this console article
Whitey2k  +   368d ago
no matter what fanboys say they still get the console even if the rumours are true yet people still go n get the new xbox if they copied sony
RogueSmurf  +   368d ago
720p vs 1080p.... ps3 wins
pay for online vs free.....ps3 wins
CEOSteveBallmer  +   368d ago
Yeahhhboiiii!!!
mr_kubrick  +   368d ago
720p vs 1080p PS3 WINS?
HAHA WUT?

U have clearly no clue what u talking bout.
1080p on your TV doesnt mean, that there is NATIVE 1080p support.

Even Atari 2600 Games can be upscaled to 1080p

THIS IS THE REALITY:
There is NO native 1080p AAA-Title on the PS3. Even GT5 is not full HD.
Only a few minor arcade-Games are 1080p. On PS3 as well as on XBOX.

Just learn to Google.
RogueSmurf  +   368d ago
i didnt say 1080p native i just said ps3 upscales it xbox doesnt, it looks like a blocky pile of shit on my screen, ps3 does not regardless of the "technical jargon" side of it.
mr_kubrick  +   368d ago
Lets see how this turns out.
Nice Stuff, MS.

Cant wait for May 21st!
lovegames718  +   368d ago
Exclusives matter to many just because COD sells a catrillion on all consoles and some exclusives barely break a million doesnt mean exclusives dont matter. Many of those ppl that buy COD first bought their favorite consoles due to exclusive tastes so it does matter. I game 80% of the time on ps3 exclusives and COD and others make up 20% of my time but what will and is selling me on Sony are their exclusives the same way some ppl dont care about the always online rumors and just want to play the next Halo!!!! Halo sells crazy numbers as does Gran Turismo both selling 8 million plus thats a total of 16 million plus ppl that care about exclusives and not to mention the others that buy their console of chose for like Gears, Uncharted, etc..... If i couldn't play my exclusives i wouldn't even by a ps4.
Dfooster  +   368d ago
No thanks. Not if the price of their current on demand games service is anything to go by.
kingPoS  +   368d ago
Downloading & streaming along with graphics and gameplay are going to become new fighting words in the ongoing console war

lol
It's a bit frustrating to hear the of 720 using bluray as a mere wrapper for content. I hope it has a good defrag built in the 720. Because if everything's passing through the HHD, it's going to need it.

Then again what do I know of rumors, they may as well be nothing but smoke and mirrors.

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