Submitted by VirtualKatz 716d ago | opinion piece

Xbox 720 Becoming the Wii/Wii U Confusing Mess

VG Republic Writes: Intriguing information about the Xbox 720 surfaced yesterday via VGLeaks, which reported from an anonymous source that the next Xbox system will not be required to be connected to an internet source to function. This is contrary to many reports that the system will need to have a secure connection constantly to work, and also negates the thought of creative director Adam Ortho's Twitter comments about the same issue and his support of it. The other reports that hit the web was that of the upcoming, disk drive-less, Xbox Mini which will be unveiled supposedly around the same time that the next console is shown to the general public will be a key player in the next console as well. We'll come back to this in a moment. (Xbox One)

The_Infected  +   717d ago
I was thinking the same thing earlier. I don't like the route Microsoft is going so far from the rumors anyways.
kneon  +   716d ago
But they are rumors and they aren't even consistent so it's too early to worry about them releasing a confusing product lineup.

Besides Microsoft would spend a lot more on advertising that Nintendo ever did, so even if they did release more than one Xbox version they have a better chance of making sure people understand what they are getting.
Godmars290  +   715d ago
How well was the Zune advertised?
Blaze929  +   716d ago
The Xbox 720 doesn't even exist...i don't understand.
BitbyDeath  +   715d ago
Ubisoft outed it the other day.

Blaze929  +   715d ago
The Xbox 720 doesn't even exist...i don't understand.
humbleopinion  +   715d ago
Exactly. The WiiU only became a mess AFTER Nintendo revealed it and sent a confusing message. The next xbox is not even revealed, so all the confusion has nothing to do with how the console will be perceived once it's revealed.
sikbeta  +   716d ago
Oh please... not even close...

Wii- WiiU -> name is confusing, people thinking is an addon because N showed just the controller and "similar" size of the 2 consoles also can get confusing,

X360 to Nextbox -> name will not be a problem, HW will be better than X360, so that's not going to be a prolem and since people will not care about size or shape of the console as long as there is an increase in graphics performance, that will not be a problem either

Nextbox = Gaming + Multimedia + Cable Box = all in one system
Godmars290  +   715d ago
It could also be:
NextBox = gaming + multimedia + cable box + original cable box it has to be hooked up to + Kinect unit which has to be hooked up + Backwards Compatible Unit/Old Xbox 360 = a system advertised to do it all but takes up a lot of space in which to do it.

And some of that's coming from the positive rumor section.
Zeusprototype  +   715d ago

but thats what microsoft wants.. to dominate are livings room tech are bedroom tech, hell are kitchen tech if they had the chance...and i dont mind a damb bit. no one was moaning when apple was everywhere ^^
ShinMaster  +   715d ago
That better not be the case.
If I am to get a Nextbox, I will have one spot for it. I will not make any more room and move my other hardware aside for anything else.

I'm not surprised that this is the direction Microsoft is taking though. They never intended to get into the console gaming business. The Xbox was one way they could get into people's living rooms. That's why they put so much emphasis on apps and non-game related media at every E3.
creatchee  +   716d ago
The funny thing is, Microsoft absolutely loves the fact that people don't like the rumors. They also love the fact that other people do. Because the only things that matters are:

1. Microsoft hasn't spent a dime on advertising, yet the next XBOX is being talked about just as much (if not more than) the PS4 or WiiU. Any publicity is good publicity when you haven't even officially confirmed the existence of your product yet.

2. If something really is unanimously unpopular, MS is in a position where they can simply change their mind. Believe it not, MS pays people (just like every other company does) to monitor forum activity and see what people say. Somebody from MS is probably reading this comment thread or will at some point.

Anyway, Always-on to play a game is basically a switch that can be turned on or off. Since they haven't announced anything officially yet, they can go either way.

3. By garnering a negative response to rumor in addition to the positive ones, again without even announcing their product officially, their big reveal will be even more watched and analyzed because the passionate on both sides will seek vindication. If everything looked good or made everyone happy, there would be less heat when it comes to the announcement itself. Think pro wrestling - a live match is more exciting when there is strong booing for the bad instead of just cheers for the good guy.

To sum up, MS likes rumors because they help their product get attention when it is actually revealed.
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   715d ago
@ #2 shhh shhhh! Shut up shut up shut up!! I told you that in confidance!! *sheepish laugh*
dcbronco  +   715d ago
Kratos which rumors don't you like?
Tacklebait  +   715d ago
Its these stupid rumor articles that make things confusing not microsoft. Nothing has been announced.
ichimaru  +   715d ago
quote of the day
AngelicIceDiamond  +   715d ago
@Kratos same could be said about PS4 before it got announced.

Those rumors are simply an afterthought now aren't they?
malokevi  +   715d ago

The Wii U has been out for months. The Xbox720 hasn't even been announced yet!

Its not even called the Xbox720.

This is just blatant trolling.
VirtualKatz  +   716d ago
It's unfortunate that we are to this point but this is the case and direction the they look to be going. All of it is rumors to this point, but most solid rumors come from some bit of truth.
Jek_Porkins  +   716d ago
Well the most solid rumors are that the DRM thing is something that got confused with the Xbox Mini, and the 720 will not require always online to play games, and it will also play used games.

Honestly, why gamer's always tend to believe the negative right away kind of baffles me, what on earth would Microsoft have to gain by eliminating used games and making their console DRM, which effectively means close to 30 million current 360 owners would be SOL.

There is nothing to be gained, Xbox Live Gold Subscriptions help cancel out the used game issues, and Microsoft doesn't even release digital games the same day they release physically for fear of pissing off retailers, so no way do they alienate themselves from the other consoles, they want to be as similar as possible as far as features and what is/isn't allowed.
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TheGrimReaper  +   716d ago
You've said: [...] and it (720) will also play used games.

"The small-i-fied system (new, driveless 360, priced 150$) will connect to the larger and newer Xbox to enable people to play games from the past generation on the new console. So in other words, Microsoft is hoping consumers will be dumb enough to buy another Xbox 360 without a disk player in it just so they can play 360 games on their new console instead of just keeping your current 360 console and playing the older generation games on it, in conjunction with playing the next-gen games on your new fangled technology."

Honestly, why fans always tend to spin anything until they like it kind of baffles me...


It's about time MS announces the damn thing...
I'm curious which rumours (hardware, software, features etc.) are true -.-"
Jek_Porkins  +   716d ago

Not sure what "spin" you are saying I'm trying to do?

This Xbox Mini is an Xbox 360 and is the rumored $99 Xbox 360 that will compete with Roku and work as a hub so if people choose to play 360 games on their 720's they have the option, honestly I'd love for Sony to come out with something similar, nobody is forcing people to buy it.

Rumor that is wont use DRM

Rumor that it wont block used games

There is a more recent rumor about the used game issue from yesterday.

It's all good, I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't read it myself, it seems that one of these articles was denied from being posted yesterday, not sure why we keep seeing the older rumors instead of the newer more positive one.
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TheGrimReaper  +   716d ago
Ohhhhh I've made a big mistake!!!
Sry I've misread "used games" and thought about old gen games...
2:30 am ...
I shouldn't comment at this time!

My deepest apologies to you Jek_Porkins!!!
Everything you've said is true and sounds plausible.

You've answered while I was writing this...
Sry you've had to use your last bubble!
And yes, these rumors keep contradicting themselves. E3 can't come soon enough.
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DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   716d ago
based completely on rumors. My GOD just wait till MS says something official. THEN complain!
Qrphe  +   716d ago
I doubt it since Microsoft will put millions upon millions in advertising to make sure such scenario does not happen. A $200 million dollars campaign resulted in the success of over 20 million Kinect units sold.
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GamersRulz  +   716d ago
$500 million
2pacalypsenow  +   716d ago
$500 million and 2 years later and no fuc*s are give about the kinect
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Software_Lover  +   716d ago
My family and I use kinect every other day. Fruit Ninja, Kinect Adventures, Netflix, Hole in the Wall. Good humorous fun.

Gaming is not about "being cool" its about having fun. Companies are just looking at different avenues to change the way we game. If they did not, we would still be using the Atari stick. Everything they make is not gonna be a success, just look at all of the different nintendo peripherals, but atleast they try.
ALLWRONG  +   715d ago
"$500 million and 2 years later and no fuc*s are give about the kinect"

Sony does because they copied it.
Qrphe  +   715d ago
Except millions of people bought it and proved to be successful. In fact, the Xbox 361 will openly go after that audience.


What is the EyeToy
kirbyu  +   716d ago
AO1JMM  +   716d ago
It is sad how people get easily confused these days.
Capital Dream  +   715d ago
You are absolutely right. People who shop in Ikea can't even use their common sense how can we expect for them to use it on anything else. In todays people, thinking is really starting to become a privilege.
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edonus  +   716d ago
It would be very confusing if you are looking at dis jointed rumors that were given as leaks.

Its like if someone dumped a puzzle out in front of you and you say I dont know what is..... NO $hit. Once they put all the pieces together and show it as a whole you should not be confused anymore.

That why they arent commenting on any specific little thing because its all linked to understand it all the way its meant to be understood you need a full presentation.

If i was MS I would be upset that the info about the HDMI in was leaked more than anything else.
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Software_Lover  +   716d ago
I dont see how it's confusing. You have the new xbox "durango" that will play all of the new games and have all of the features of the xbox 360 mini. You only need the xbox 360 mini if you want to play 360 games on your "durango" unit. You could also just keep your 360.

The 360 mini is a media box in the realm of apple tv etc. You can play downloaded games from the marketplace, ala itunes, that includes full retail 360 games that you download.

I think people make this harder than it actually is.

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theWB27  +   716d ago
If people didnt pretend this was the so hard to follow...they wouldn't have crappy articles to write about a product that has no concrete information.

Like you said...it's not hard at all to follow the mis-info.
ceedubya9  +   716d ago
Yeah, I'm not seeing how it is confusing. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
rainslacker  +   715d ago
It's not confusing the way you wrote it. It's not even confusing when you actually logically put together the information.

However the original post most people read about this was poorly written, and I had to read over it a few times to finally get what it was saying. This article made it worse by rambling on and repeating the same information while adding too much...I guess I'll call it jaded sarcasm. Basically this particular article is self-fulfilling. The author goes out of his way to make it confusing.

No doubt MS will put together a better presentation to distinguish the two, what they're capable of, and how they can interact together, assuming it's true of course.
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Capital Dream  +   715d ago
The problem is, is that they are doing it on purpose.
US8F  +   716d ago
You can't compare the two. Microsoft fired an employee before a console reveal, and Nintendo didn't. Big difference!.

Just get orth of here.
Belking  +   716d ago
Xbox 720 is getting ready to take over NA just like the 360 did. Get your fanboy tears ready.
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rainslacker  +   715d ago
That's great. Too bad the rest of the world combined is four times the market the US is. The old saying, "Don't put all your eggs in one basket" comes to mind. You think the rest of the world is going to care about Durango's media functions if they aren't getting media content to serve it? So many competing technologies and providers in that field...the biggest of which are the cable companies. MS is fighting a bigger market than gaming, and their competition is much more fierce than Sony or Nintendo.
ichimaru  +   715d ago
with respect...where else would I put my eggs
hellvaguy  +   716d ago
MS hasn't officially announced anything. Whereas the WiiU official announcement left more questions than answers. Seems like 2 different situations to me.
Capital Dream  +   715d ago
Go tell that to the dumb ass whom copy and paste words to his site and calls it journalism . IV been and now I'm being censored.
Bumpmapping  +   716d ago
In Nintendos defense at least they have games worth playing.

@Belking awww I stwuk a nerve little fella didn't I :D
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Belking  +   716d ago
In MS defense they aren't so broke they need to sell off buildings around the world to finance their product.
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Capital Dream  +   715d ago
Just to correct you a little bit on your comment. I'm not replying to be rude but Microsoft is no where being broke.
StreetsofRage  +   715d ago
I stwuck??? Are you hunting wabbits Elmer Fud?

rainslacker  +   715d ago
Nintendo is selling off buildings? I thought they had money just sitting in the bank from the Wii's profits.
Asuka  +   716d ago
Lol confusing my a$$. MS hasn't said a word about the new system yet. Its everyone else that is saying stuff and making the situation more 'confusing' then it actually is.
r21  +   716d ago
The only thing im really really curious bout the nextbox is its name. Seriously, if that xbox 360 BC add on is called the Xbox Mini, whats the nextbox going to be called? I hope they're not actually considering calling it the xbox 720.
josephayal  +   715d ago
Becoming the Wii/Wii U ??
I give my honest opinion, I never played a XBOX 720 in my life
AO1JMM  +   715d ago
How can you get confused when there has been no announcement ? There isno official name forthe machine yet!
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Agent_hitman  +   715d ago
Xbox 720 is like Agent47, it doesn't even exist. All these urban legends makes me sick.. Well.. uhh.. Whatever.
MultiConsoleGamer  +   715d ago
Speculation based on nothing. More fanboy spin. Author knows nothing about the final name of the console or how it will be sold to the public.
ironmonkey  +   715d ago
i think there will be alot of dead servers on 720.
Max-Zorin  +   715d ago
What confusion? Microsoft didn't say a word yet. It's just that people suddenly became too obsessed with these rumors.
headblackman  +   715d ago
stop posting old info (especially when the same rumors have been debunked by those who posted them) and you idiots believing in them really need some help. PlayStation fanboys really want Xbox gamers to come over to the lame side so bad that they've gotta try to keep lies circulating in hopes that they will turn one Xbox simple minded gamers. the real Xbox fans know better. we know and knew that this was nonsense the day it got posted. we know that Sony and its fans put this garbage out and is keeping it going, but I'm sorry. there is nothing that can be done to evade your true fate. the next the first Xbox put the name out. the Xbox 360 tested the crown and was successful (in more ways than 1) the next Xbox will take and keep the crown while giving the competition the final blow and nail in the coffin. we know that you are scared but resistance is futile.
NYC_Gamer  +   715d ago
What's to be confused about?nothing but rumors have been floating around the web with no solid weight.
lema008  +   715d ago
It confusing as heck with developers, game sites and Brain Orthy and Manveer Heir twitter dialog- which I think was real and not just joking around. I can see where a lot of people would believe it's true. I guess we'll have to wait until E3 or in May to find out for sure.

Personally, I find it hard to believe they will implement the DRM thing for playing games. But that's probably where were headed in the furture as companies try to have more control over you.

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