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Miyamoto: Wii U's rivals will feel limited over time

Mvk: ''The Wii U’s use of an integrated second screen poses a notable threat to Microsoft and Sony’s rival machines.

That’s according to design legend Shigeru Miyamoto who speaking to CNN said that the Wii U’s impact will grow considerably over time.'' (Industry, PS4, Shigeru Miyamoto, Wii U, Xbox One)

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caseh  +   460d ago
"The Wii U’s use of an integrated second screen poses a notable threat to Microsoft and Sony’s rival machines."

Only if devs find some real uses for it, being able to trot to the toilet and play Mario while taking a dump isn't one of them.
fermcr  +   460d ago
Wasn't interested in the WiiU, but with the no used games crap the PS4 and next Xbox are using, always online crap (next Xbox) and no backwards compatibility (PS4 and i guess next Xbox)... the WiiU is looking more appealing each day that passes.

I'm waiting for the release of the PS4 and next Xbox consoles to make my decision. WiiU will probably be much cheaper by then :)
At this moment Wii U Pack Premium is 350€... when PS4 and Xbox release, Wii U Pack Premium will probably be 250€.

This years E3 is going to be very interesting indeed...
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Dark_Overlord  +   460d ago
"but with the no used games crap the PS4 and next Xbox are using"

Didn't Jack Tretton already confirm that the PS4 wont block used games?

as for MS, its rumoured that they will be blocking them, but until MS announce it its still just a rumour.
fermcr  +   460d ago
@Dark_Overlord

No.

Jack Tretton confirmed that the PS4 had the option to block used games for any developer that wanted to use it... probably all (or most) developers are going to use it.
Mounce  +   459d ago
"probably all (or most) developers are going to use it."

You're speaking for the mouths of the publishers as to imply your Suspicion and assumption and using it as Facts?

Way to go, Fermcr.....
3-4-5  +   459d ago
uhh...PS4 isn't doing that...You've been misinformed.
OmegaSlayer  +   460d ago
Now that Miyamoto is speaking bulls, can we safely and once for all say that WiiU is doomed?
Knushwood Butt  +   460d ago
You called it.

Rivals will feel limited over time? Compared to what? Mario Bros Wii U? A Wind Walker remake? Wii Fit U??!!
from the beach  +   460d ago
Yeah, I'm way more excited about next Halo, next Killzone, next Forza, next God of War..
OmegaSlayer  +   460d ago
@from the beach
can you make a list of the new IP that first party developer of Nintendo studios, Sony studios and Microsoft studios created for Wii/PS3/360.

To me it seems that the innovation is branded with Sony name.
from the beach  +   460d ago
No, it would take ages.

I don't associate Sony with innovation at all, but if that's your perception then that's grand.

My comment above is only partly sarcastic - I actually am looking forward to those games, as well as whatever new IPs come out!
AKR  +   459d ago
@OmegaSlayer

- Doomed? 4 months on the market, and it's doomed? Hah. The thing is selling on par with the 360 and PS3 at the same time period (4 months). Like every new console, it's going through the infancy drought. Looking at recent times, PS3, Vita, X360 and 3DS ALL went through it. But now look at them?

All the Wii U needs is time. It's FAR to early to call it "doomed" or a "failure". Why? Because all consoles before it have gone through similar pains, it's nothing new.

@Knushwood Butt

- All you named was three games. The Wii U has other games like:

~ Need for Speed: Most Wanted U
~ Bayonetta 2
~ Monolithsoft 'X'
~ Pikmin 3
~ Dues Ex: Human Revolution

... Just to name a few. We should be seeing even more annoucements this year as well. You named THREE titles, and expect to make a point? Hah, you owned yourself, dude.
LOL_WUT  +   459d ago
Miyamoto has lost his mind!
WiiUsauce  +   459d ago
yep it's definitely doomed alright. Have fun playing this EPIC RPG on your PS4 :D http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Knushwood Butt  +   459d ago
@ Extreme Azure

My point was that Miyamoto's comment was dumb, and there's absolutely nothing to back it up.

Maybe you can enlighten us on why

~ Need for Speed: Most Wanted U
~ Bayonetta 2
~ Monolithsoft 'X'
~ Pikmin 3
~ Dues Ex: Human Revolution

will make Wii U's rivals feel limited over time...
MaxXAttaxX  +   459d ago
@ExtremeAzure
NFS: Most Wanted and Deus Ex, to name a few, are multiplatform.
skipper  +   459d ago
What are you talking about? Games like Trine 2, Nintendo Land, BOPS2, Assassins Creed 3, Rayman (the demo), Need For Speed, Monster Hunter (I like the HUD on the gamepad, it cleans the screen up), Zombi U, Lego City, oh heck the list goes on and on. Make great use of the second screen. Much more than just off TV play. These are just the first batch of games.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   459d ago
Right, they have those games but future "heavy hitters won't make it on Wii U as well as certain publishers.

Aliens Colonial Marines (cancelled)
Dead Space 3
Saints Row IV
Bioshock Infinite
TombRaider Proof
GTAV https://www.google.com/url?...
Epic Games
EA Games

Now games like Assassins Creed IV and any Ubisoft games as well as Activision Cod series will more than likely make it to Wii U. Despite the fact that Activision being "upset with the Wii U fanbase due to poor sales on the U version. Nintendo probably has allot of Japanese titles supporting the console and may announce at E3.

But in the U.S Nintendo has always had a history of shunning third party. Though, they are the only company who made an absolute fortune on 1st party games alone, but have pushed away others in the process.

Game Cube barely had third party help. And Nintendo deliberately dropped the ball with the Wii by making it not third party friendly. Now several years later they want to cater to third party?

You can't blame devs for skipping the U version after all these years of either, lack of effort, or no effort at all. So devs see little to no interest in the Wii U.

Like I've said before, E3 season is coming up and Nintendo will be there. So lets just wait and see what they say.
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Triggytrolls  +   459d ago
ZombiU used the second screen to great affect, it made the game a lot more scary/intense and fun to play.

Off TV is not that good anyway the signal is to short. I can't play mario on the toilet, the signal breaks and my wiiu is only in the bedroom.
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chente0025  +   459d ago
I think that nintendo should take a chance and develop a FPS that's exclusive to the wii u.and who knows,maybe they can integrate the tablet controller with innovative ways that can't be found in other FPS games.if that turns out to be a massive success then nintendo would most likely dominate the console market all over again.
baraka007  +   459d ago
i disagree poopin' and playin' be my life bra
Oh_Yeah  +   459d ago
A second screen is a distraction, an unneeded feature that just makes gameplay more cumbersome.. People seem to like it for some reason though.
profgerbik  +   459d ago
"The Wii U’s use of an integrated second screen poses a notable threat to Microsoft and Sony’s rival machines."

If you don't know your history sure or the fact Playstation already did it with the PS Vita and PS3.

On top of that the PS4 and PS Vita will be far superior to anything the gamepad offers, I am sorry the gamepad is just a controller with a screen, the PS Vita is more than that. The PS Vita can literally be used in the same way as the gamepad but still be it's own device. That is much more than what Nintendo currently offers.

Did the PS3 and PS Vita also not exist and were in development before the Wii U? I guess not. Sure let's just give Nintendo all the credit for that idea.

Sony even back in the day was the first people to implement this idea, with the PocketStation for the PS1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

I am not saying the Wii U gamepad is shit or that no one enjoys it or that it doesn't add value to its games but don't get it twisted thinking Nintendo were the first people to think of this, they were far from it actually. Playstation and Sega were technically the first to use this type of idea.

Iwata has been around long enough to know exactly just that but his pride in his company will never allow him to admit otherwise.
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R00bot  +   458d ago
You'd be surprised how great it is, Mario and dumping at the same time. Oh, and if someone's using the TV it's ok too.

Honestly I haven't used the TV for gaming in ages now.
clintos59  +   460d ago
I think wii u will do well. I was watching zombie u footage how they used the wii u as a scope for head shots in some parts of the game. Great ideas from nintendo. I think sony will do very well along with nintendo.
rustyspoon80  +   460d ago
The problem is that element like that are still gimmicks. They don't really add anything that isn't possible on other systems.
Nintendo really need to show something that uses the second screen that makes people say WOW. The Wii-mote had everyone wanting to give it a go once they saw Wii sports. The Wii-U (currently) has nothing like that.
Ck1x  +   459d ago
Everyone's favorite gimmick word I see... You guys are so hell bent on stagnation its ridiculous! Anything that offers the slightest change in gaming is a gimmick, (presumed to be a bad thing by the context that you are using it in.) Even though you are given the option of not using that play method and just gaming on a regular ass controller. So if you don't want to try something new then that's you, but many other people in the gaming community like trying different and new ways to play games. People like you go to a very nice restaurant and order hotdogs and French fries, because they are to scared of trying anything else...
jcnba28  +   459d ago
"They don't really add anything that isn't possible on other systems."

I didn't know the ps4 and 720 controllers had touch screens on them...and don't say ps4's remote play because that is nothing compared to what the Wii U can do.

"Nintendo really need to show something that uses the second screen that makes people say WOW."

Nintendoland does this vey well. Have you tried it?
Nevers0ft  +   459d ago
Ironically, something along the lines of "Wii Sports U" (it's bound to happen) would probably help... During last years E3 Nintendo demoed using the pad to pan around and catch a baseball. They also showed a Gamepad on the floor being used as a golf tee and means of seeing the shot more accurately. I could see Goalkeepers in a football game using the pad to catch the ball in 1st person view. Hell, what about Freefall parachuting where you have to pan the pad around to find who you're falling with and perform stunts (yes, you'd look like an idiot)?

I dunno, I'm not a games designer (can you tell?) but I think a sports minigame collection like Wii Sports U could demonstrate the different uses really well and also be the huge public draw that Wii Sports was when the Wii launched. Simple sports mini-games can capture the non-gamer imagination a lot better than something like Warioware can - which despite creative uses of the gamepad, aint a system seller.
R00bot  +   458d ago
IMO the GamePad makes me say WOW more than the wiimotes ever did.
rustyspoon80  +   458d ago
You all missed my point (or I wasn't clear enough). I wasn't saying the touch screen is a gimmick, I was saying that the was in which it has been used so far is. Using it for maps and such is something that can be done in other games by pausing.
The new Super Mario does offers something different by letting another player add objects into the game for other players. This is what I mean. More games need to add elements like that. Where the screen is used in a more meaningful way.
Also, where are all the TV ad's, the wii used to have loads of adverts. I haven't seen any for the Wii-U.
Hopefully Nintendo will roll out the big guns at E3.
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Triggytrolls  +   459d ago
The using the pad as a scope got me killed more times then I like to admit, especially on the mounted guns when a horde turned up.
wantonGamer  +   460d ago
As opposed to limited right out of the box like the Wii U ?
xursz  +   460d ago
Wow. I can't disagree with that if I tried. :|
Jakens  +   460d ago
Go outside and play my young Nintendo...

Come back in later for dinner.
delboy  +   460d ago
WiiU is innovative, unlike the competition.
And if you put some thought you might come up with some great ideas for the use of the second screen.

http://imageshack.us/a/img7...
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dmN_114  +   460d ago
Fanboy much?
Going by your logic what about the pic below then???

Wii U has potential sure but Nintendos fault is/was to rely too much on their 1st party games and gimmick. 3rd pary support is nearly non existent and with the other 2 next gen consoles around the corner it can only be worse...Wii had similar problems but its success was caused by 'games' like wii fit etc. which appealed alot to non gamers and the like and getting those into the bag again is not so easy since they don't care too much about the console itself.

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zebramocha  +   460d ago
@delboy the wiiu tablet looks like the udraw tablet,so what's your point?
eferreira  +   460d ago
It's not innovation when the ds and 3ds already does what the wii u is doing now for gimmicks.
Clarence  +   460d ago
You will be able to use android, ipad, and vita to do the same thing. The problem is Nintendo tried to make the tablet the main selling point of the Wii u.

They could have saved that tablet gimmick and put a brand new Mario gaxley game in the box.
DarkHeroZX  +   459d ago
And Sony is trying to make the Vita able to stream all PS4 games as well as certified phones and tablets. The next box will probably also follow suit as well. Where is this innovation in which you speak of? Heck the Vita can connect to the PS4 over wifi on 4g lte mobile data and stream games anywhere. The Wii U is a cool console but far from innocative.

HD Wii+ Ipad= Wii U
sway_z  +   460d ago
As much as I respect Nintendo's long standing prominence in this industry...

Every statement coming from camp Nintendo seems to suggest 'In time' ...'with time' ...'Next year Wii U will have games..blah blah blah.

Just a bunch of promise after promise. Yes we know Zelda, Mario 3D and Metroid will come eventually....but after folks invested £299 premium duties, Nintendo needed to deliver like yesterday.

We all know what happens when you hold your breath.
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Triggytrolls  +   459d ago
You turn Blue? Real life Pokemon yo. Innovation for you.
Neko_Mega  +   460d ago
It be more nice if the gamepad wasn't so limited on range, I mean. It be more nice if you didn't have to stay close by to the Wii U to keep playing something on the gamepad, plus they need to make the battery life better on it.

My only problem is that the pro controller doesn't work with Mario or ZombiU (Story mode).
AKR  +   459d ago
Maybe a range-extender can be developed. That shouldn't be impossible. NYKO has already released two power-upgrade options for the Gamepad "Uboost" and the "Power Pak". Both extend battery life majorly, even up to 8 hours.
Nevers0ft  +   459d ago
I just wish I could work out which materials it struggles to pass a signal through... I can take the pad to the bathroom (about 20 feet away, with two brick walls between it and the Wii U) and pinch off a loaf and play Mario with ease. But I found out yesterday that my fridge door blocks it and that's only about 15 feet away.

So either my house is built from hollow bricks, my refrigerator is made from lead or the Wii U wants me to crap but not eat (it must think I'm fat)... Your guess is as good as mine.
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Campy da Camper  +   459d ago
Dude...bubble bro. That shit happens to me all the time. Its like wtf life???? Does physics break down in my apartment???
PS4isKing_82  +   460d ago
Poor Nintendo. Who's the limited one here at the moment? You've had the store shelves all to yourself since November without ps4 and 720 and you barely have any new games come out since launch. PS4 is going to murder the wiiu come November. I love u Nintendo but this will be your worst console gen ever.
jcnba28  +   459d ago
Yes the Wii U did so bad that's why it outsold PS3 and 360 45 days after their respective launches. It did this with barely any advertising and not one triple A first party title.

But I wasn't expecting much from someone with the name "PS4isKing_82".
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Jek_Porkins  +   460d ago
I think the Wii U will end up being very successful over a longer period of time, I don't actually think Nintendo is competing with Sony or Microsoft, probably just doing their own thing like always.

The Gamepad is interesting and fun if they implement it correctly in games.
r21  +   460d ago
Wii U is an 8th gen console, it will be in competition with the ps4 and the nextbox. Kinda obvious that they're competing with them for next gen sales.
Dj7FairyTail  +   459d ago
But what those the PS4 and Next Xbox have to compete against these.

PS4 will have to compete against:
Super Mario Wii U - Galaxy sold almost 11m on Wii.
Mario Kart Wii U - Mario Kart Wii sold 33m on Wii.
Zelda Wind Waker HD - Will sell a lot maybe better than original.
Yoshi Land
Unannounced holiday or summer or fall titles

Next Xbox will have to compete against
Super Smash Bros. 4 -
SSB64 - sold 5m on N64
SSBM - sold 7m on GC
SSBB - sold 12m on Wii

Bayonetta 2 - I will get it because I have the first on 360.

Xenoblade 2 - Xenoblade sold 800k then including the 1m+ pirated copies it would had sold around 2m.

Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem - Will sell Fire Emblem is more popular than ever. Shin Megami Tensei series popular on Nintendo system.

Zelda Wii U - Will sell 4-8m copies.
More of Nintendo + Japanese Collaboration
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Mr_Writer85  +   459d ago
DJ

Yeah on a console that sold 99million units to casuals. The WiiU won't do anything NEAR 99 million. So your little games sales pitch is pointless.

Wind Walker oh my days! How will a game that was on a console that sold 4 million copies on the 21 million units of GC gonna sell more on the console that has only sold 2.8 million? Not only would the WiiU have to almost double in sales. But also the attach rate would have to be 100%.

Consider the fact Galaxy sold 11million copies on a console that sold 99millilon. And previous Zelda games (on the Wii) sold 6million (TLP) and 3 million (Skyward sword) makes that very unrealistic.

It was only last month people claimed Lego City was a 'system seller' only for it to do less then 1/4 of a million.
R00bot  +   458d ago
@Mr_Writer I expect the wii u to sell a lot more steadily than the wii did, in other words it won't suddenly stop selling like the wii did.
But who knows, we'll have to see what wii u games look like when compared to PS4/720 games.
Realplaya  +   460d ago
He never once spoke on their rivals machines he only spoke of what they planned on doing because that's what they do.

With that being said he's speaking of creativity. HE's saying with Ps4 and the 720 more than likely your going to get more of the same games but with nice lush graphics. To some that's cool. In reality what more can you do with a FPS that's different? But for him to make statement like these I'm thinking that it will once again be up to Nintendo to show third parties how it's done which is a shame.
Ck1x  +   459d ago
It is a shame, but if the yearly shooters and prople that buy them are an indication of anything. The masses like stagnated gameplay, that's why CoD sells as much as it does... A great game like Ni NoKuni can't hit 1mil games sold but CoD BLOPS2 sells almost 10 million with an install base of over 75 million consoles. Sad tired gamers!
rainslacker  +   459d ago
The problem with that is that it assumes that developers want or need to provide some sort of amazing advancement to gaming through use of the 2nd screen. Not every game needs 2nd screen functionality, and more often than not, it would likely only be used in the most shallow of ways.

2nd screen functions are handy at times, and occasionally a game can be tailored around such functionality, but in the real world, games are made to sell to the masses. As such limitations are worked around for all consoles, and gimmicks are only included as selling points, not for any meaningful advancement.
FightFans  +   460d ago
"The Wii U’s use of an integrated second screen poses a notable threat to Microsoft and Sony’s rival machines. "

LOL good one.
illustratedDEO  +   459d ago
Guess they didn't get the memo on Sony uses of Gaikai technology and Microsoft tablets integration come N/G. Nintendo will always be the company with it's finger's in it's ears.
Crillvirus81  +   460d ago
I agree I love the my wii u i only stoped playing it recently cause of bioshock but I noticed while playing the 360 how dif it feels now cause I can't do alt of the stuff I got used to on the wii u and the system just came out I remember how bare bones Xbox was when it first came out compared to now ...but I do miss the cross blades lol
kunluncat  +   460d ago
Wii U's rivals? Does he mean ps360?
_QQ_  +   459d ago
i think he means pc's since ps4 is the same old boring controller with a shitty touchpad, but pc and wiiu can both handle things like hotkeys, that alone opens up a giant range of possibility not achievable on ps4/nextbox.
stuna1  +   459d ago
The WII U is already feeling limited!

In ram alone the PS4 will offer 4X what the WII U could offer on its best day! Coupled with the Vitas functionality the PS4 will offer everything that the WII U is touted to offer, but on a grander scale! The plus is it will be two consoles operating as one, this is something that the WII U will never be able to offer.

Everyone was going on how the pad and WII U is everything out the box, that's true and because of that, that there is it limiting factor! It will never do anything independently of the console! The PS4 & Vita will.
_QQ_  +   459d ago
The vita is nothing like the gamepad, at most the vita will do offscreen play,i doubt devs will make gameplay that incorporates the vita because of the low install base, that's assuming that the vita is perfectly synchronized to the playstation, anything you do on the gamepad is in perfect sync to what is on the tv. people need to stop saying that these add-ons are like the gamepad, unless it comes with the console in any model basic, elite,slim whatever, then it is not like the gamepad,because devs won't make vita/PS combination games unless everone has a vita. By the way, the gamepad is the controller not a handheld. it doesn't need it's own seperate games so that is not a limiting factor, and as for the ram, oooh big bad ps4 has a bunch of ram, now killzone can add another 3 hours to the 8 hour linear game that everone has pretty much already played in COD and anyother shooter with the exact same gameplay.
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Mr_Writer85  +   459d ago
You can use the Vita as a gamepad LBP have already done it.

Regardless of wether its taken advantage of or not it can still do it. So it can do remote play on most games (only move only games can't, even the gamepad can't be used to play off screen on every game) AND has its own games, can also be taken on the move.

Also the using Gaika tech remote play will work better with the PS4 then it does with the Vita.

And surely that fact you DON'T need a Vita is a plus? I mean its a gimmick, nothing more, but with the PS3/4 it's a choice.

Plus again the Vita offers more then the gamepad.
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MasterCornholio  +   459d ago
Well at least its better than being limited by the Wii Us 2GBs of ram when the PS4 and the 720 (rumors) have 8GBs.

LOL

@DA_SHREDDER

"Trust me, N is right. They got enough RAM and power in it to do pretty much anything they want."

Just like the Wii ROFL
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DA_SHREDDER  +   459d ago
Here's a tip for all you N haters. Buy one 3 years from now after you played the crap out of your ps4 and 720's. Probably be 200 bucks for the base model. Trust me, N is right. They got enough RAM and power in it to do pretty much anything they want.
Drekken  +   459d ago
Except make a new exciting franchise.
exfatal  +   459d ago
xenoblade says hello
_QQ_  +   459d ago
What is more important? A name, or the gameplay?
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chukamachine  +   459d ago
PS4 all day long.
dcbronco  +   459d ago
Since both Microsoft (SmartGlass) and Sony(Gaikai, Vita) have a second screen solution I'm not sure what the limitation is. If anything, the Wii U is limited because it doesn't have the power to run multiple second screens. The PS4 and the 720 will. Razer has proven buttons can be added later.
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RFornillos4  +   459d ago
before the haters continue, please do read the article and the CNN interview that it references.

the title suggests that they were quoting Miyamoto (that the statement was made by Miyamoto); when in fact, it was only the article that mentioned that Miyamoto implied it. if you read the CNN article (which this article is referencing), Miyamoto didn't even mention the names of Sony and/or Microsoft. he only mentioned the feature of Wii U which allows off-TV play, and the significance of the 2nd screen. he did not even made any comparison to any other "rival" console.
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Dark5tar1  +   459d ago
Journalists really can twist and misquote what people say. Fortunately, I actually did READ the article unlike other people and found nothing what the title of this article was implying.
skyrimer  +   459d ago
I'm really tired of the two screens crap, DS, 3DS, now WiiU. Stop it, please, I don't want to be constantly looking up and down between screens to see a map or a stupid minigame.
GiantFriendlyCrab  +   459d ago
this guy is on drugs
LOL_WUT  +   459d ago
How can he say such statements if the Wii U was already limited since launch?

If developers are not taking notice of the Wii U it's most likely for a reason. Off-tv play isn't innovation like most posters would like to believe and selling a gamepad controller to consumers would only get them so far, same goes for their first party IP's. ;)

The man clearly needs to lay off whatever he is on.
RFornillos4  +   459d ago
not going to disagree or agree with you, but just to note that Miyamoto did not make such statements.
hano  +   459d ago
This guy has been in the game for too long, and in my opinion he doesn't speak bullshit.

Look at the PS4, the controller is crap, the touch pad seems like a waste of space and the only thing it has is powerful hardware, that's not even as strong as current gaming PC's.

We all know graphics don't win sales. I'm pretty sure the PS4 and next Xbox will suffer more in there launches than the WiiU. By that time the WiiU will have a strong line up and the others will likely be playing catch up.
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sarshelyam  +   459d ago
Its launching with titles like Watchdogs, Assassin's Creed IV, Battlefield 4, a new Call of Duty, Killzone 4, inFAMOUS, and more. I really doubt it's going to have a difficult time finding its audience at launch.

As for your complaints on the controller...they're the same ones I heard regarding the use of a touchpad on the Vita, and its remarkable what that can do when used correctly. I see nothing but potential and find it difficult to imagine it as a waste of space considering it used to be the home for nothing more than START/SELECT/PS BUTTON. A "waste of space" would imply that you have a better use for it, so, what would you suggest?

As for your weakened defense that the Wii U will be drowning in quality titles come this Fall, I don't know if I agree. I really can't see anything on the horizon that is going to be pushing Wii U sales to some boiling point that will result in Sony/Microsoft fighting an unwinnable battle. I mean, if you only wish to address hardware sales at the point of their launch, then fine...Nintendo should be ahead. After all, they had a year head start.

I'd say this coming holiday is the most important for Nintendo. They have to prove themselves with unique reasons as to why a family would choose the Wii U over something newer. Frankly, the only game our family has played that has used the Tablet in a way I imagined the Wii U to do, is LEGO City Undercover. Pretty sad when the 3rd Party partners are doing the job better than Nintendo...and even then its few and far between.
Tito08  +   459d ago
Have you tried the PS4 controller for you to call it crap? If so how does it feel?, and the touchpad, can you give us a hint at what it does? Yeah thought so, and bringing PC to twist your argument, sounds to me you're nothing but a fanboy/PS hater, how "awesome".

You can't predict how both NEXT-GEN consoles will do, they haven't announced prices, release dates, we still don't know the whole game lineup aside from the obvious ones like AC/COD/Madden, btw, as much as Nintendo have more hardware sales, 3rd party software will remain it's weakest point, because most of the Nintendo fanbase buys nothing more than 1st party games. Sony/MS doesn't have to worry about Nintendo anymore as they both will have strong 1st/3rd party support, so pretty much to a lot of devs, Nintendo is already out of the picture.

Not only that but PS3/360 still does have a strong franchise in the form of GTAV, & btw of course, you'll obviously get multiplats as well as those 2, but since most people already have those consoles, they wouldn't feel the need to buy another console that will play the same games as the ones they already own. So Nintendo will have a hard time selling the Wii U as they accidentally competing with 6-7 year old consoles.
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Ck1x  +   459d ago
Yes Sony does support their hardware with 1st party games, but Sony's games don't sell on their hardware like Nintendo's does on theirs! If you guys don't think this is a problem then you are sorely mistaken. If its true that Killzone SF is costing Sony $80 million to make and say this game goes on to only sell 2million copies. They will barely break even and this is taking a consideration that they make a $45 profit on those 2mil sold, which they probably won't. Not to mention that early reports of development cost going up on these systems were indeed true, as $80mil dollars is nothing to sneeze at if a game flops or doesn't meet a good sales quota. So if that becomes the norm for AAA games this generation then I can see the asking price of games go up...
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Tito08  +   459d ago
@ CK1x- You can say that, but if you look at the big picture, Nintendo's biggest sellers are Mario & Pokemon. Metroid Prime 1 is the best selling Metroid game, it sells the same or even less than Killzone. Zelda Skyward Sword sold less than each of the Uncharted games, those games doesn't have that staying power anymore, of course Nintendo have more IPs that sells more than Sony does, but the majority that aren't Mario or Pokemon are sold around the lines of Sony games nowadays.

Also, why did you simply mention Killzone, I mean, there's Uncharted, God Of War, Gran Turismo, & others like J&D and R&C, those make a good amount of sales. And people complain at Nintendo by not bringing new IPs, Nintendo have being relying on the same IPs for years, happens to be Pikmin their newest IP, from the Gamecube days, & it sold decently. If people mention Xenoblade, I wouldn't count it as new IP since it's a part of the Xeno series that found it's birth on the PS1, same goes to Fatal Frame on PS2. So it takes more than simply Nintendo IPs to overtake Sony, as 3rd party games are also part of the equation, that is where Nintendo can't beat Sony or Microsoft at all.

IDK too much about development costs, I wouldn't be surprised if they rise, it remains to be seen as to what is Sony's plans, but as of right now they're getting huge 3rd party support, especially in the indi-dev department,& you know that's where Nintendo really is out-shined with the exception of a few. So I think they have a good understanding of what they want, & it isn't simply a FPS game like a lot of 3rd party companies does, time will tell.
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illustratedDEO  +   459d ago
Hold on to that assumption, while I'll be enjoying all the upcoming immediate day one titles the PS4 and next XBOX have to offer this year right up until the next 8 to 10 years. While you probably be waiting for the same rehashed Nintendo games exclusive's in about 3-4 years from now,that were promised to be in development.
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GiantFriendlyCrab  +   459d ago
nintendo fans are just blindly defending nintendo out of nostalgia. nothing more.
D_RoyJenkins  +   459d ago
Yes, a lot of them do this
khowat  +   459d ago
yeah because that is the only reason anyone would like nintendo, because they liked their games in the past. Some people seem to want to refuse that nintendo has ever done anything positive since the wii launched and will forever question why anyone would buy their console until they find blanket-statements like this
illustratedDEO  +   459d ago
WHAT IS THIS HARDWARE IT'S LIKE I'M IN A TIME MACHINE LMAO
arbitor365  +   459d ago
I understand that you have to defend the company you work for, but this is such transparent BS.

no one cares about that touch screen controller. it has yet to contribute anything substantive to games, even when developers focus on it and really try their best to implement it.

the capabilities to put a screen on a controller have existed for quite a while. there is a reason why no one has done it before. it drives up console costs, leeches off of processing power, and doesnt really add anything significant.

you want to talk about "limited?" well I guess the PS4 and 720 are just going to have to make do with actual next gen hardware and next gen engines and be "limited" to a "regular" controller instead of an over-sized gimmicky turd.
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lovegames718  +   459d ago
The same bozo that said next gen wouldnt be a graphical difference between wiiu and negligible lol Sony starts off with Killzone for Ps4 shutting that theory down and making Iwata look like an idiot. Not to mention its a release game and is confirmed to be 1080p native hahahahaha

Oh the ironyyyy!!!!!!!!

After that idiotic, wishful thinking statement i would never believe this fool.

resp to Hano......

Take the lube out of your $ss. Your jealous and envy are transparent. The Ps4 is leagues ahead of the Wiiu and Wiiu barely can compete with Ps3. Goog le is your friend and Digital Foundry and ppl at Neogaf already said that Nintendo was pulling the wool over your eyes and in terms of power Wiiu is current gen.

Hano you sound like an idiot!!! Which company has come out this gen with more quality and varied exclusive ips? Sure as hell wasnt Nintendo so yeah graphics dont make a great game luckily sony incorporates great graphics with innovative gameplay and great gameplay!!!!! Stop your crying and blind defending and accept the shafting you love from Iwata!!!! Both of you are fools.
sarshelyam  +   459d ago
There is no doubt that the Wii U will find its audience, if it hasn't already. My son and I are enjoying LEGO City Undercover...incredible fun. That said, until more than a handful of games (like LEGO City) use the "second screen" in engaging ways...this argument falls flat.

Sorry Miyamoto, but your development partners aren't supporting the tablet nor its potential, and I'm finding nothing but gimmicks from Nintendo's in-house team in this regard. It says something when a smaller studio can make it sing far better than Nintendo.
jjank11  +   459d ago
This guy is officially smoking crack. PS Vita and Smartglass (or whatever MS does), will over time prove better options than what the gamepad offers. The gamepad can only be used if you are close to the darn console. in my mind that is limited. Over here in 'merika we have big houses.

I'd love to be able to play games when I'm away from home. Nintendo does not offer that through the Gamepad. Sony has, or will have that option, as i'm sure MS will probably as well, at some point.

Nintendo is starting to annoy me. They need to start coming up with more mature titles and take more risks or something. They will fade away or get bought up if they don't explore other avenues or at least compete on the same level of Sony and MS.
Dark5tar1  +   459d ago
The limited range and small battery of the gamepad sucks hard but Vita and Smartglass just seem like quick minimal additions to try to imitate the dual screen effect. Vita is a fine handheld but it doesn't need cross play at all, Sony just needs more games for it that will make us want a Vita. Mature titles from Nintendo? There are some but I doubt they would do that. I don't think they would fade away or get bought out any time soon since they have stayed relevant for several decades without third party support and change.
imXify  +   459d ago
People say we should give them time but I remember when the Gamecube was released and it got SSBM in the same year. The best selling game of the GC and yet the PS2 killed it in sales. If someone could reply and teach me why.
CEOSteveBallmer  +   459d ago
I have tons of respect for miyamoto but he does not know what hes talking about. Feel limited? in what way? Graphics? Processing speed? 3rd party games? Hell even PS4 can compete with the Wii-U gamepad with "Ps vita" if he has not heard of it and next xbox may use smart glass. So how can MS and Sony be limited? I think it will be the other way around.
Cosmo811  +   459d ago
haha utter bollocks
NYC_Gamer  +   459d ago
Wii U will feel limited due to not much support from 3rd party
PygmelionHunter  +   459d ago
Really? I must've been ignoring that for the last 3 gens, then...
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