Submitted by Donnieboi 688d ago | article

Retro City Rampage dev's Microsoft horror story

Developer says Microsoft cancelled his game and then released it at wrong price

After a shaky relationship that put his career and game on the line, Retro City Rampage developer Brian Provinciano joins Jonathan Blow and Team Meat in talking mess about Microsoft.

After developing RCR for over four years, Microsoft cancelled the Xbox Live Arcade release due to Provinciano publicly stating his issues with the process, Provinciano told Wired. Perhaps this was written in some contract and Microsoft wasn't out of line, but that is much harder to hold on to after what came next. (Dev, Industry, Microsoft, Retro City Rampage, Xbox 360)

Hellsvacancy  +   688d ago
He says working with Sony is a "coffee shop chat," while dealing with Microsoft feels like an "intimidating corporate vibe".

Makes me want to break something

Snookies12, I wonder how many other games out there that COULD of been made, but due to companies being greedy, they havnt, these companies are not happy with making a little profit, they wanna squeeze ya dry, and if they cant do that, well, its game over for you
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Snookies12  +   688d ago
Why? lol
Godmars290  +   688d ago
"these companies are not happy with making a little profit"

That seems to be exactingly true of Square Enix. They invest in projects solely based on brand value, set expectations too high and then limit creative effort.
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IK IR Y IP T  +   688d ago
I could really care less the games suck anyway
xursz  +   688d ago
This implies you do care, just saying. I know what you mean though. I also know you're just saying that because you love Microsoft but Braid was a fantastic game, and there's a reason that and Super Meat Boy reached critical acclaim and such success. Those games do not suck. You know you're an idotic gamer when you let fanboy loyalty get between you and great games, not only that but by spreading hate as well. It's the same thing WiiU owners do when a game or specific technology is not supporting their system. "ZombiU? That game is amazing! Unreal Engine? Pfft, bunch of crap games and lazy developers, I tell ya." It's completely childish.
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Why o why  +   688d ago
you're here

you care
TemplarDante  +   688d ago
Jonathan Blow was of the same accord. The 3rd console curse is starting to be a reality for Microsoft and their Xbox720.
Sony were so arrogant at the start of this gen. Primarily down to their astronomical sales with the PS2.
PS4, they ate humble pie and oh, how proud I am in the route their taking. They're not not that arrogant sleeping giant anymore, their going out of their way for devs and indie devs in particular.
Microsoft, however, has been collecting false pride and arrogance this entire gen, Im afraid its going to catch up with them next gen.
PS4, the return of the king!
Zhipp  +   688d ago
3rd console curse... N64, PS3...Xbox720? Funny how I never noticed it before.
a_bro  +   688d ago
Sega Saturn as well. heck, it marked the beginning of the end for Sega as a hardware company.
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supraking951  +   688d ago
Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast
a_bro  +   688d ago
Sega Masters=>Sega Genesis=>Sega Saturn=> Sega Dreamcast
Jazz4108  +   688d ago
Not to knock sony but i dont think there investers would let them do it any other way.
hellvaguy  +   688d ago
"Microsoft, however, has been collecting false pride and arrogance this entire gen, Im afraid its going to catch up with them next gen."

Projecting media hype and personal fanboyism into a corporation is always good humor and does have a certain entertainment value.
BrianC6234  +   688d ago
Since Microsoft doesn't have many of their own developers you'd think they'd try to make things easier for third party developers. Even the little guys. They sure aren't doing a good job trying to build up a library of games for their next console.
Ripsta7th  +   688d ago
They have 21 in total?
Why o why  +   688d ago
And how many many of those are dormant or underperforming? No point keeping all them horses in the stables. Feed them and let them run free
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Ripsta7th  +   688d ago
Actually most of dem sell pretty well, Halo sells, Gears sells, and Forza Sells , and quite alot. We dont know much about the other studios as they have supposedly been working Next gen titles.
Gh05t  +   688d ago
Not trying to sound like a fanboy but looking at this from a purely business standpoint wouldn't all these developers know exactly what they are getting into to begin with? Wouldn't the contract layout the process? If the contract doesn't why sign it? After hearing all the horror stories from developers past wouldn't you know you were in for a turbulent ride?

I mean yeah it sucks that Microsoft has a bad way of dealing with talent but its nothing new so signing on to deal with them is accepting that its going to probably be a bad ride.

"If you sign with Microsoft... You're gonna have a bad time."

Again not defending Microsoft, just saying what did they expect was going to happen? Why are they complaining when it does?
isarai  +   688d ago
Business may be cold for the most part, but there's good business and there's bad business. Making a horrible experience for the people behind behind the games on your market is like pissing off a director that makes your films as a publisher. People don't seem to have these poor experiences NEARLY as often on PC, Nintendo Wii(U) and PS3(i hear Sony can be pretty demanding sometimes though, but never as bad as MS) These indie devs have no responsibility to MS, they don't HAVE to put their games on XBL. Sure they'll miss out on some cash but i'm sure some indie devs would just rather not put up with it. If MS keeps this up they are going to feel it come next gen
Gh05t  +   688d ago
Your just proving my point. For the most part people should know by now that Microsoft sucks as a company to work with. So if the developer decides to move forward and work with Microsoft why are they expecting it not to suck and complaining when it does?
clintos59  +   688d ago
If microsoft doesnt even know how to treat the people who create our games with respect, what makes u think they even care about how their core base feels not dishing out any new ip's for over 3 years now. Shows how much they care for u right greenpowerz? Is this the company u love so much? Each article just adds more hate from me to microsofts bullsh**. I really hope they fail next gen & learn to respect these devs and their fanbase.
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isarai  +   688d ago
Seriously MS, WTF is wrong with you?
StrongMan  +   688d ago
MS wants devs to #Dealwithit.
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CEOSteveBallmer  +   688d ago
I want to see what statements will the Microsoft/Xbox fans will say to defend Microsoft. Even if a developer is an Indie one, you treat them with respect. You are one of the richest company doesnt mean you can buy everything. They tried buying sega but they failed. Microsoft just like apple is run by businessmen and stockholders who hired the wrong people to run the company. Since steve jobs is gone they havent released anything innovative and just Improvements to iphone, ipad, imac etc.
kingPoS  +   688d ago
I handn't made the connection with grand theftindo until read the article. I can't believe I hadn't noticed that.
izumo_lee  +   688d ago
Isn't in the game industry you wanna make as many allies as possible so they can create games for your system? The happier the developer is the more likely they will continue doing business with you? Isn't that how it works?

It seems Microsoft isn't trying to do that, they believe that money can buy you anything. They have done what they set out to do when they entered the console business by taking market share away from Sony & Nintendo. Now they are looking at companies like Apple & Google and trying to take over the living room. Sure release some games now & than but it looks like that isn't their priority anymore.

Sony on the other hand after being humbled in this gen is looking to right the wrongs. Bending over backwards to be as developer friendly in & out of the console. Removing patch fees, changing their whole approval process for indie developers, catering to the developers needs for their new console, signing contract deals with software engines like Unity. Sony is doing everything in their power to be the go to source for gaming...as a gamer i appreciate that very much.

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