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Submitted by gburns 526d ago | opinion piece

Microsoft: Is Their Silence Hurting Them?

Graham from Gamers Association wrote "With Sony holding a live global event back in February that announced the PS4 and their plans for it, consumers and developers alike got a chance to get excited and build hype before May’s mega-event E3. Not only announcing it, but showing the controller and several games that are currently in the works, Sony managed to come out of the gate swinging and build momentum in their favor. Now almost a month, and two tradeshows (GDC and PAX East) later, no one has heard anything from Microsoft in regards to the next generation of consoles. Is Microsoft doing itself any favors by being quiet?" (Microsoft, PS3, PS4, Sony, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Hellsvacancy  +   526d ago
No, the 720 has had loads of free advertising, I bet theres people in the world, on a remote island somewhere that dont even have computers etc, just sticks and stones and know about the 720

"hubba hubba jug jug, jiggy iggy mo-higgy" *translated* Do you think itll be always on?
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Nitrowolf2  +   526d ago
hahaha Fu XD

I guess it really depends on how they see it, but if they stay silent for to long people will begin to believe. And it doesn't help that someone from there just blurted out stuff on Twitter.

Microsoft can easily turn this around with a small statement. I mean we know the next console is gonna be announced, thyey could easily come out and say "the next box won't be always online". Still I guess it's that full reveal they want.
LOGICWINS  +   526d ago
"but if they stay silent for to long people will begin to believe."

It doesn't matter what people believe now. What matters is what they believe this fall when the console is out.

Did it matter a few months ago when we heard that the PS4 wasn't going to be THAT much more powerful than the PS3? No, because we now know that this isn't true.

One way or another, we're going to learn the truth. Whether we learn that truth now or a few months from now is irrelevant.
zebramocha  +   526d ago
@logic and you honestly believe the ps4 wouldn't be better than the ps3
LOGICWINS  +   526d ago
I've always believed that the PS4 was going to be better than the PS3...the question was to what degree.
Axe99  +   526d ago
@ Logic - the issue is that the strength and consistency of these rumours (multiple sources hinting that they're true, and generally being consistent with each other) generates a poor emotional association with gamers. Humans are emotional beings, and MS is letting this rumour set them back before they've even started. It's downright odd behaviour.
NewMonday  +   526d ago
staying in a negative light will make previously xbox only gamers warm up to the idea of a different console.

to get the trust back the Durango must:

* not be overpowered by the PS4
* be playable off-line at any time for non online MP games
* Kinect not mandatory, few are comfortable with a camera watching them all the time.
* show new hardcore games
The_Infected  +   526d ago
I just say don't believe rumors no matter how much you want to. Wait until the actual reveal from Microsoft. There's a chance rumors could be true but you can't bash the new Xbox left and right until it's officialy revealed and rumors were true. You can't say Xbox will fail, Xbox can't compete with PS4, and Xbox is giving up on gamers when you really don't know anything at all about the new Xbox
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Riderz1337  +   526d ago
Yeah but most of it has been bad advertising lol. It's benefiting Sony a lot though so keep the bad publicity coming Microsoft!
BX81  +   526d ago
Hmm
I don't see how Sony is benefiting from any thing yet. Did they recieve a huge wave of pre orders for the ps4?
Riderz1337  +   526d ago
BX81 - Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. No one knows but it's clearly benefiting Sony when their competition is getting bad publicity.
LOGICWINS  +   526d ago
"No one knows but it's clearly benefiting Sony when their competition is getting bad publicity."

You don't know that. Your assuming that bad publicity for the 720 means that gamers will jump into Sony's arms with the PS4.

How do you know this news won't make people simply stick with the consoles they already own?

How do you know this news won't make people abandon next-gen consoles all together and adopt PC gaming?

How do you know that people aren't saving their money for the eventual Wii U price drop that will likely happen this year?

You don't know.

Anyone who is already dismissing the 720 was never planning to get one in the first place.
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grayfoxx881  +   526d ago
@logicwins

"Your assuming that bad publicity for the 720 means that gamers will jump into Sony's arms with the PS4."

Well, from the many articles and comments that I've been reading the last several days it certainly looks that way.

Out of all the possibilities out there, the PS4 may likely be the only console that shares similar qualities with the next Xbox, when also taking the WiiU and PC into consideration as well. There is a reason why Sony is competing directly with Microsoft, they are competing over the same gamer.

Gamers may flock to the PS4, the WiiU, or decide to finally build a gaming rig. Overall, though, I believe that if Microsoft follows through with these ill-advised decisions, the majority of their lost business will end up in Sony's pocket, because the PS4 will most likely be the closest experience to the 720....Durango...Infinity?

Anyway, that's just how I see it.
aviator189  +   526d ago
The console, if released this year, is potentially still over 7-8 months from launch.
I never take the idea of buying a piece of hardware lightly, more especially if it's going to dig a hold in my wallet. Honestly, I have never let rumors, no matter how ridiculous or sound they may be or have been, convince me, particularly this early prior to a product launch, to either support or abandon it prior to release.

I don't know why so many individuals are such in a quick hurry to cast something aside before even given any official or concrete details on it. It hasn't even been announced yet...
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LOGICWINS  +   526d ago
"I don't know why so many individuals are such in a quick hurry to cast something aside before even having any official or concrete details about."

Welcome to N4G.
Nitrowolf2  +   526d ago
It's not just N4G though Logic.
I honestly it's better to say something now rather than have all this a secret until reveal. Say if this rumor wasn't leaked and say MS did go with always online and announced it. That in fact would have a terrible effect on them.

I like to think in a way this rumor is good overall. If proves to be false at least console companies will get the message that no one wants it. And if MS was planning on doing it, hopefully the reactions change their minds.
LOGICWINS  +   526d ago
"I like to think in a way this rumor is good overall. If proves to be false at least console companies will get the message that no one wants it. And if MS was planning on doing it, hopefully the reactions change their minds."

I get what your saying, but MS has a lot of fans and many of them aren't as informed as we are. IF Microsoft launches an always online console(the rumored $300 subscription based console would imply that they will since MS would obviously want the ability to brick a 360 via the Internet if someone misses a monthly payment), I wouldn't be surprised if they were successful with it.

360 owners have proven in the past that they are okay with a console thats more expensive in the long term(XBL Gold sub) as long as it is less expensive in the short term.
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rainslacker  +   526d ago
That's sound reasoning to get all the facts before making a big purchase. More people should do so.

The day after Sony announced the PS4, I told a guy at work who is a big Sony fan that they announced it(he hadn't heard ahead of time), and the first thing he asked was when it was coming out, then said he was going to buy it. Knew nothing about it, didn't care, just knew he wanted it.

This will be true for MS as well come the release of their console. There will be people that will buy it no matter what, regardless of if this rumor is true or not. If the worst case scenario to this is true, many will still buy it because they haven't informed themselves on it(See SimCity for reference).

Another fun work anecdote...today this same Sony fan asked if MS was going to be always online. He obviously doesn't keep up with news, but he knows what always-on could mean for playing games. The whole thing is reaching out beyond the gaming community, because I've never known him to be terribly informed on anything that isn't COD or BF related, and even then it's usually post-release he becomes informed.

Anyways, to me, this whole debate isn't whether it would be good or bad for MS in the long run. It isn't about whether the rumor is true or not. It's about what potential something like this could mean for gaming and what the community feels about the actual topic at hand. People are focusing too narrowly on the subject in my opinion.
Godmars290  +   526d ago
I think not talking to indie devs while Sony presents an opens arms policy is going hurt them more than anything. Especially considering by all accounts they don't have good relations with indies they've worked with.
LOGICWINS  +   526d ago
Not necessarily. Are people buying $400-$500 next-gen consoles to play $0-$15 bite sized experiences, or are they buying next-gen consoles to play AAA first and third party titles?

Indie games are just icing on a delicious cake. The icing makes the cake a tad better, but the cake would still be delicious without that icing.
Godmars290  +   526d ago
And I'm saying MS as of yet has no cake much less frosting. They have yet to officially announce a system, and their track record for delivering AAA or a diverse assortment of major, 1st through 3rd party, titles could be as best described as limited.

Sony really hasn't shown any PS4 titles yet but they have history. Are establishing early relations for next gen whereas MS is coming off either as following, or off into their own thing.

Hell. For that matter should Sony offer something at $0 it can be said that that's what they ask for it. With MS if something "free" isn't through the veil of a paid subscription it'll be powered by Mountain Dew.
clintos59  +   526d ago
LOGICWINS

U can say the same thing for BC. Do u really want to buy these upgraded systems only to play last gen games? Id rather have new indie games bringing new experience's to the table then just use my new system to play old games that can ruin my disc drive.
Hicken  +   526d ago
You're forever playing Devil's Advocate, but you're not very good at it, honestly.
The_Troll_Whisperer  +   526d ago
I think that they want to build momentum for the successor to the Xbox 360. That is good, but it isn't turning out as good as it should be, theoretically. Momentum is building alright... in a negative way. Always-Online, No BC Xbox 360 games, etc. etc. etc. I never trust rumors so I don't think this is true or fake. I'll wait until E3 or May 21st or whenever it's revealed before judging the console.
Octo1  +   526d ago
No. News or no news, there are already gamers that were planning on buying the next XBox barring any really stupid decisions that MS makes. It exists that we know and I am sure that MS is keeping quiet for a reason and I can't see why this will hurt MS.
Knowing MS they will dump millions on marketing the damn thing. I'm surprised myself that Sony did not wait to announce the PS4 until E3 2013 but I am sure that it's all part of their strategy. There's a method to everyones madness XD
Jaqen_Hghar  +   526d ago
A man isn't sure you should have such confidence in these companies. They've made some pretty monumental mistakes in the past and they're not the first billion dollar corporations to do so.
Jek_Porkins  +   526d ago
Nope.
BABYLEG  +   526d ago
Is Microsoft's silence hurting them you ask?

in the words of BABYLEG... #NEVERTHAT

question should be?.

same controller..
unproven motion control..
unproven voice commands..
unproven camera add on..
big dreams, strong console, and dusty fanboys.. Can the ps4 thrive even though "everyone" says they're going to get it? Just like they said they would buy Sonys exclusives lol

rewatch the ps4 conference from Feb. Sony hasn't implemented gaikai yet but the product they showed was using what they expect gaikai to do.. Get ready for the worse software in history. No one knew who gaikai was before Sony bought them so its not like they're all of a sudden good. They're worse than on live. Dont listen to me.. Just wait and see.

be ready Sonyites, its going to be a long and tough next Gen.

enjoy your ps4 phat. Then your ps4phatslim, then your ps4slimslimfat. Then when the Gen is over, all fanboys will rise again to claim that Sony won last Gen because they won Japan. :|
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clintos59  +   526d ago
U didnt have to tell me. My mind was made up not because of the ps4 announcement, it was made up way before because of the way sony supported us. So yes ps4 is day 1 for me. Ill grab a 720 when xbl is free & is $199. I wont fall for their lack of support.

KillrateOmega

If u go on facebook and go to any gaming site talking about always online u will see alot of 360 owners are already ready to buy a ps4 due to this famous quote, "Deal With It".
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GABRIEL1030  +   526d ago
Adam Orth statements count as silence?
gburns  +   526d ago
Compared to what Sony has done, yes I consider it silence.
urwifeminder  +   526d ago
No its great go ms.
dcbronco  +   526d ago
I refuse to read one of these "Silence is hurting Microsoft" articles until until we get to at least number 24.
DOOMZ  +   526d ago
It wont in the long run...
E3!
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hollabox  +   526d ago
I would say yes since most of the news about the Xbox Next Durango 720 or whatever the world you want to call it has been negative. Always on connection, 8 Gigs of slow DDR 3 ram, weaker GPU than the PS4, and Kinect focused hardware, are just some of things Sony will market against if the rumors are true. I will eventually buy both consoles but for my $300-400 dollars this holiday season it will probably be the PS4 if I had to pick one right now.

On the other hand Microsoft could be playing possum, letting bad press build up just to shock and aw the gaming community in the coming months. I wouldn't be surprised for MS to change the rumor specs, keep the slow ram but add an 2nd GPU and announce Killer Instinct 3 along with something unexpected.
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kungfuian  +   526d ago
People are just eager for info already. Especially the press. But waiting, even until e3, wont hurt them a bit.

It's what they actually announce that will help or hurt them, PERIOD! How much is it? How powerful is it? What software is in dev? Does it have any stand out features that are a must have? etc..etc..

On a personal note; I hope Microsoft do make the 720 some kind of fancy always online media box. For better or worse I'd like the ps4 and 720 to have different functions and features. It sucks that ps3 and 360 are so similar. I'd much rather have all 3 systems, including wii u, be unique!

Then I can buy the ps4 for it's dedicated gaming and it's exclusives, and 720 as my media box and for it's exclusives.
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KillrateOmega  +   526d ago
Microsoft: Is Their Silence Hurting Them?
Maybe. While they have been getting a lot of free advertising lately, it's all been pretty negative.

E3 IS coming closer by the day and so is the rumored MS reveal, but that's still time to let the bad taste of 'Always on' and other crap settle onto people's taste buds.

It's probably hurt them, but not by too much.
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stuna1  +   526d ago
"Is Microsoft silence hurting them"?

Short answer "YES"!

Long answer "HELL YES".
edonus  +   526d ago
I would say yeah but there are different levels of hurt. There is ant bite hurt all the way to 3rd degree burns over 90% of your body hurt.

Everything with Sony is like hit with snowball in the hand hurt.

There is nothing a good product and ptch cant overcome. It would be different if sony was launching their console next month. There is enough time for this to dissipate and a stronger clearer message get processed.
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playapride  +   526d ago
they have been on the hush for to long either they have something to slap them in the face or their in trouble going for just the casual gamers look at the wii u
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Moonman  +   526d ago
In terms of hardcore gamers?....YES it's hurting them! The general public, maybe not, but initial sales are from core gamers not casual gamers.
creized1  +   525d ago
It is killing them not just hurting them
headblackman  +   525d ago
asking this question is like asking if the stealth bombers silence is hurting it :-/ get real. you'll get all of the info that you need surfing the e3 so just be patient and stop whining like little spoiled brats. this is not food. its a video game. its not water. its a video game. its not the cure for aids. its a video game. its not God. its a video game. get? got it? good! :-)

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