Thurrott slams "knee-jerk reaction" to always-online rumours [OXM]
A lot of people will write off something based on "literally nothing". It's why they say first impressions are important. It's not just PS4 fans writing it off. Plenty of gamers from different platforms are concerned about it. Of course, there will be people who end up buying it anyway and who brag about it being the best console ever. It's just the way the world works.
You don't have to worry about ps3/4 fans writing off the new Xbox (to begin there Sony fans). "Worry about Xbox fans writing off there next gen Xbox" Many have already said there jumping ship from Microsoft
@dedicatedtogamers '...Of course, there will be people who end up buying it anyway and who brag about it being the best console ever' So true, and they're the worst kind of people, cos they don't have a mind of their own. @onyoursistersback '...Worry about Xbox fans writing off there next gen Xbox. Many have already said there jumping ship from Microsoft' Yeah, I see your point too. Basically, all it will take is for MS to debunk all the negative rumours and show a bunch of new games at E3, and watch the same clowns 'Jump Back In'. These types of people are literally dumb cattle sheeples.
@sway_z Many? You mean a few fanboys on N4G. Most people are just waiting for the console to be announced, before making any decisions. Anyone that makes a decision based soley on a rumour, is an idiot.
I greatly preferred my Xbox360 over my PS3 this generation. But **if** the always online thing proves to be true then I will be getting the PS4 only. Which makes me sad because I really want to own both but I just don't live in an area with reliable enough internet to have an online only console.
and there right for doing so. come on what's to know dicks like Orth work there (not for long) always-online, no used games not confirmed but very likely windows 8 like dash controlled with kinect 2.0 no exclusives worth mentioning. that about sums it up. yeah i think i'll pass thanks..
@sengoku 1. Everything is rumor... 2. Always Online doesn't mean Required Online 3. All of Microsofts new (including the Xbox 360) product use the "Metro" style interface first used on Zune HD 4. You're the same person who when asked what exclusives the Xbox has can only name 2... 3 at the max. 5. You don't sum anything up you're just being contrite.
Included is a pic of my triple panel gaming rig, Fanatec CSR Elite FFB wheel (best wheel that is compatible with the XBox 360) and it takes 3 360's to use this triple panel display to play Forza. BUT I also own 2 other 360's for other areas in my home to game. Okay, with that aside. Am I now allowed to express concern if these rumors turn out to be facts? Sorry but this article is pure flame bait. Is there Sony fans chuckling and jumping on the coat tails of these rumors hoping they are true so they can find fault or rub salt in the wounds? I'm sure there is. BUT I know a lot of 360 gamers that are very concerned these rumors might be true. Most of the people I talk to so they would most "likely" end up still getting the next offering from MS but they will do so reluctantly. Myself, something like this, again and IF ONLY they are true, could turn me off completely. I rent and purchase used a lot more than purchase new. I'm not hurting for cash but only buy certain titles at full MSRP from specific genres that I know I will play for more than a couple weeks. I am hoping these are rumors that MS will refute come E3 but I'm a concerned if they were why is MS at the very least not saying, "people wait until E3". All will be known then. When the dust settles. I don't see MS going this route. Always on hopefully is rhetoric and doesn't mean you always need an active connection to the internet. More importantly I hope all these used and rental rumors are pure nonsense. Signed: An anxious but slightly nervous 360 fan, NOT a Sony fanboy.
@Cueil: You say everything is a rumour then you say "Always Online doesn't mean Required Online" as if you know that for sure. You're contradicting yourself and ignoring what this leaker is saying. In his own words, he's seen documentation that an internet connection is necessary for the Durango to function, he also further on says it's too late in development to change that now, so how do you know that it's not required?
I don't think many are jumping ship until they announce the new xbox and it's features.
@Cueil well yeah there are only a few exclusives. the ones i use to play are already milked to death. as for windows 8 style kinect 2.0 gui. you know there going to force hand-gestures and voice commands now. it's not 100% but why els would kinect be forced to be connected to function?? i know it looks cool in the movies but i just want to play a game, i don't want to hold up my hand like i would in a class room to use the bathroom. and don't like talking and especially repeating my self to a machine to eject disk or power on. sorry but the direction they have been going for years now and the always-online + kinect 2.0 included and must be connected to function stuff, is just rubbing me the wrong way. let's see there console but, my money is on it not being my cup of tea.
@onyou 46 million XBLive Users active right now, do you really think they'll ditch their years of investment? I don't see that happening always online or not O-T Truth, no one saw what MS got under their sleeve, IF X720 becomes a success... lot of you will be eating so much crow... it's going to be a nice spectacle to watch :D
another day with the same fanboys spewing the same stuff which is not yet true or false.. could please someone tell me what it feels like to be a pathetic fanboy??
If it's true I'll jump ship. If it's not I'll weigh up my options when I know everything about the 2 headliners.
@onyoursistersback "Many have already said there jumping ship from Microsoft" They said they will jump ship "IF" some rumors were true about the next gen Xbox.
I thought it was Xbox fan boys who are writing Microsoft off and cursing them for this always-online crap. Why would PS4 fan boys care what the 720 is doing to make people opt for a PS4!
@onyoursistersback: "Many have already said there jumping ship from Microsoft" That is the thing, historically Xbox LIVE Gold membership has increased every year while the next console isn't likely to be released at the end of the year. Basically what it means is depending on what grand plans MS has, it might just blow everyone away. Remember when Netflix was released on Xbox 360? That is when Netflix adoption exploded, and made huge waves. A very simple feature executed very well. Xbox TV might just be that, or it might not, but we won't know for a while. Same thing with the Wii, nobody thought it would be the superstar it became! deal with it! :D
@Cueil - Post. 1.1.5 Cueil said in Post 1.1.5 ............................. "2. Always Online doesn't mean Required Online " ............................. Actually, in this case it does mean "Required Online," that's what's got everyone so upset. Either the new Xbox will play a game when it is not connected to the internet or it won't. All the rumors and leaks say that it will not play a game if it is not connected to the internet. Since this is a game console we are talking about, this means that the system will not perform it's intended purpose without the internet. That is very much required online. The fact is no one cares whether has to be "Always online" or not. We only care whether it has to be "online for my game to work." If the only time the internet was required was when I want to play my game, then that is enough to make it broken. The system is slave to the internet, and not fit for use, or purchase. The only defense possible is for someone to say "it's not true, the next Xbox will play a game if there is no internet connection". It's as cut and dried and as black and white as can be. There is no wiggle room here. Either it will play the game or it will not; and these rumors either are true or they are not.
@ onyoursisterback "THERE Sony fans" @ sengoku "and THERE right for doing so" [THEY'RE]
Yeah, because it's only PS4 fans complaining. /s
Personally i can't find nothing for me in the PS4 so i'm waiting for MS to announce what they got but i think i will stick with my PC since PS4 games are still running [email protected]
@Tr10wn Not all games are going to be 30fps in fact most will probably be (1080p) 60fps (for example battlefield 4) and as for games that are puzzlers and such, 60fps doesn't really do anything to help the game out. But, if you only want the super incredible deluxe graphics that "only the PC master race can achieve" then you sir don't truly appreciate the story, music, and emotion evoking-ness that we should judge a game on. Yes, I will admit that for some people having great graphics will make the game easier to like and play but it should not be the first thing you judge a game on. Plus your use of a double negative means that you actually can find something in the PS4 that you like. Grammar . . . it's a lifestyle.
Xbox fan(boy)s love to pull the old "Emmanuel 'Sony fan' Goldstein" whenever any sort of doubt or dissatisfaction happens to anything Xbox. The entire internet isn't happy that leaked documents, angry MS developer leaders, third party developers, and a hundred other sources suggest that the next Xbox will be online only? "It's the Sony fanboys' fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" --Delusional fanboy
... is pretty much what MS has shown the last 3-4 years at E3 when it comes to stuff that interests me as a gamer, with their main focus on Kinect and dashboard apps. THAT'S why I've lost interest in their new console. MS has lost it's focus on GAMES for ME. I started this generation as a big fan of the original Xbox, never having owned a PS1 or PS2, and I also loved my 360. Still do actually, although mainly for 3rd party games and XBLA, and ofcourse the terrific controller. But somewhere along the line, Microsoft has seriously dropped the ball, and after a very slow and poor start from Sony this generation, they really picked up that ball in the last 2 years orso, remaining a focus on cool new original IPs and core-games, and scored BIG with their PSN+, along with their PSN being free anyway. The 'Always Online' rumours now surrounding the new Xbox, just means I won't even consider buying it. MS is being run by fools nowadays. Sadly. The ONLY GREAT thing about the 360 the last 3 years, has been an absolutely fantastic output of games on XBLA, with some tremendous titles. And somehow MS has managed to piss off many of those great developers one way or another, so it's doubtful they'll be developing exclusively for the next MS console...
So 208 comments and still nobody has noticed that Paul Thurrott also confirmed the always online necessity and even that MS are focusing on TV in this very article?! For the love of god, read before you comment people. There's people in here trying to say its all rumor just because that's what the headline says. Try reading the rest of it first.
Funny how it reads PS4 fans when it's mainly 360 owners who are up in arms about this. I would too, if my console of choice stood the chance of being online only.
agreed. The next Xbox was not on my radar based on how poorly MS has performed these last 3 or so years and the lack of free online. This latest bit of controversy kinda made me say..."huh...whatever&quo t;.
@k2d I don't know why you are getting so many disagrees?as a ps fan only thing i want to see from Ms is,specs,games/features and if any of these rumors turn out to be true.
The closer you hit to home, the more flak you get in return. :)
It's not just Sony fans but also current Xbox 360 owners. If it requires an online connection to work then a lot of people will write it off. What I do agree with is not to have knee-jerk reactions until we get official details on everything we should have clarification on. That includes the PS4. Sony hasn't revealed everything either, although what they have shown and said is very positive so far.
IF (i'll say again IF) rumors are true about the next Xbox... $500, always online, no used game, more kinect functionality and titles... yep Microsoft's got a winner on their hands. /s
They're writing them off based on rumors based off of devs saying stuff like "It needs a constant connection." I wouldn't say thats literally nothing. Maybe if it came from a Joe Shmoe, then yeah.
This, also Xbox need to pull their collective fingers from their A-holes and give us something concrete to base our decision off.
Have you guys notice how everyone saying anything positive about MS have 2 or less bubbles while the ones saying anything positive PS or negative MS have three or more. I wonder why? anyway, I say lets wait and see, If this rumors turns out to be false a lot of people here will look foolish.