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Sony's PS Vita Comeback Continues As Wii U Fails

This is a crucial period for the PlayStation Vita: several weeks after a price cut that revived the console in Japan, Vita is demonstrating fairly astonishing tenacity. According to Famitsu, Vita remained the No. 2 console in Japan during the week of March 31st with 33,000 units sold, down moderately from 38,000 units in the previous week. The reason this week was particularly important was the debut of a major new title for Nintendo’s (NTDOY) struggling home console Wii U. Alarm bells at Nintendo’s headquarters must be on full blast, because Dragon Quest X sold just 36,000 units and failed to lift weekly Wii U sales higher than 21,000 units from the previous week’s dismal 10,000 unit level (PS Vita, Wii U)

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dedicatedtogamers  +   561d ago
There are a lot of cool games coming out for the Vita, that's why. Soul Sacrifice and Toukiden (sp?) are both excellent MH clones (I played the demos). We have Muramasa, Dragon's Crown, and various 1st-party Sony games on the way. The WiiU has....nothing on it that I can't already play on other systems.
HammadTheBeast  +   561d ago
I don't like the term Monster Hunter clone. Because in history, it was Phantasy Star that MH copied a bit.
dedicatedtogamers  +   561d ago
The two games are very different from one another. Both are great games. Phantasy Star is an action-RPG. Monster hunter is a 3rd-person, skill-based action based game with light RPG elements added in.
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gamefiles  +   561d ago
lol vita.
not becuae it has shit game, but because it has shit comfort
PeaSFor  +   561d ago | Well said
@gamefiles

and guess what?
you have shit arguments.
thechosenone  +   561d ago
I'm glad I bought my Vita when I did! Dat $200 price point. :D But now that it's starting to gain in popularity again they've jacked the price back up to $250-300.

Bad gamefiles! No! *Rubs face in his poo-poo comment*
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profgerbik  +   561d ago
Yea funny everytime I hear the word MH clone, kind of clone like in itself to use that term. Clearly people don't know their history. Bunch of up and comers just reciting the same thing every other person says instead of actually knowing the history behind it.

MH was far from the first game to achieve the concept and PSO wasn't the first either. PC had tons of MMO's long before that did the same.

Now was PSO literally the first game of its kind to come to consoles yes and that is important. You can't use MH clones because technically PSO was literally the first game of that kind to be on a console period.

I don't use the world clone anyway, it is simply a genre of games.

Just like there are many different types of FPS.. but why is it every game that has monsters in it that get hunted people say it is a MH clone.. Makes no damn sense.

The term is heavily over used, people treat Monster Hunter like it is god when it isn't even jesus.
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T3MPL3TON  +   561d ago
@hammadtheone

Have you actually played either of those games?

Monster Hunter is nothing like Phantasy Star. Unless you're being foolishly general in saying they both had you killing monsters.
isyourhouseonfire  +   561d ago
It's a Monster Hunter clone. Welcome to 2013. Quit living off of the past and history.
Ritsujun  +   561d ago
Wii duUum.
Qrphe  +   561d ago
To the many uncultured many who use such term, if a game has bosses that can be beaten through co-op, it's a MH clone
sikbeta  +   560d ago
Can't be serious, can it? just because Vita is selling kind of decent -/+30k for a couple of weeks doesn't make it a success, it's nothing compared to 3DS...
gamepard  +   560d ago
@dedicatedtogamers totaly agree about MH ....no relation with Phantasy star....it resembles more the street fighter series (skillful combination of strikes...not for everyone) than the Phantasy star crap....
Th4Freak  +   561d ago
SS and Toukiden are not MH clones. By your logic I could say that every platformer game that came after Space Panic are clones or every FPS that came after Wolfestain 3D are clones.
Protagonist  +   561d ago
Well said.
vork77  +   561d ago
zombie U
Welshy  +   561d ago
As cool as the gritty take on a zombie FPS is over L4D or maybe Dead Island, it just doesn't look good enough to the point i'd want to buy a new system for it.

Especially when i have a much bigger overall games library and more future releases that will be on PS360 soon enough.

Not to mention next gen consoles are just round the corner and there has been very little tro convince me that the Wii U has any £300 worth of power advantage over my PS3 and 360 right now.

For those who have a Wii U and are enjoying it? great, fire away, i won't hate on people having fun with it. But for me personally? The Wii U just doesn't have the library to entice me over i can't play on my current system nor does it show me any great future potential when i can add an extra £100 on top of that Wii U price tag and get me a PS4 and/or 720 in 8 months time.
vork77  +   561d ago
bayonetta 2 lol
dedicatedtogamers  +   561d ago
@ Th4Freak and any other MH fan

Okay, just relax a bit. I'm a huge MH fan. I didn't mean it as an insult. I've sunk at least 600 hours between 3 different MH games over the years.

All I'm saying is that SS and Toukiden are targeting the same market as MH. Toukiden's gameplay is almost identical to MH's (I've played the demo for myself, not just watched trailers), and that's a good thing in my eyes. SS does a lot of different things compared to MH but it is similar.
Protagonist  +   561d ago
I can agree on that too.
tubers  +   560d ago
SS IMO is far too unique to be even considered an MH/PSO clone.

No traditional item management, equipment crafting nor exploration.

+Dark/Serious theme and atmosphere
-MH have CAT ppl and PSO2 can be very MOE/anime-ish

+Forbidden Spells (ultimate)
+6 spells in combat; upgradeable and craftable
+Unique Sacrifice mechanics specially in MP
+Level Up system
+Seals
+Variety of AI partners to be collected by Saving them.

Toukiden is something more "traditional" (relative to MH).. Weapon crafting, farming components, stages with mini areas.. what's most unique is the game's "Loadout System" (Souls to choose that have a pre determined set of skills/items) [Traps, Spiritual Shields, etc.].

Specific weapon system is also unique like Homing Arrows for Bows and stacking Whirlwinds with Great Swords.

Here's an HD gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

IMO, one of the best looking VITA games so far (NATIVE RES, very good models and textures huge draw distances, detailed backdrops)
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MikeMyers  +   561d ago
Sure, there are cool games coming to Vita but it also helps that Vita got a price cut. It's also a year older than the Wii U. So why do we have a topic trying to compare the two? Once the Wii U starts getting more software and a price cut I imagine it too will be seen as a comeback.
dungeonboss  +   561d ago
For the same reason people are comparing Wii U to Xbox 360 and PS3 sales.

We'll see the same article next year regarding the Wii U versus PS4 and 720.
LOL_WUT  +   561d ago
i second that price cut ;)
MikeMyers  +   561d ago
There are legit reasons to compare those consoles to one another and how they stack up. What I am saying is why compare how one system is doing sales wise after a year and has had a price cut and had time to get more games to another that has only been out for a few months with no price cut? Wouldn't it had made more sense to see how well they did to one another in the same time-frame? The media was way too quick to call the Vita a failure back then too.
snipes101  +   561d ago
The whole premise of the article goes against itself. Vita is making a come back that people weren't exactly forecasting. Wii U has a good a chance as the Vita did to make a comeback in the future.
chadboban  +   561d ago
Isn't Dragon's Crown being released for the PS3 as well? And Muramasa is an enhanced port if I'm not mistaken, although I've been told that is has quite a bit of additional content, I'm guessing in the same vein as Persona 4 Golden. As far as the various Sony first party games, the only ones I'm aware of for the Vita are Killzone, Tearaway and Soul Sacrifice (correct me if I'm wrong though). Now you mention that the Wii U has nothing on it that you can't already play on other systems, which is somewhat true,(the Wii U has a serious port problem that I'm hoping it gets over soon), but yet you mention upcoming Vita games, why not mention the upcoming Wii U games that you won't be able to play on other systems?

The Wii U's launch a wasn't great and Nintendo refusing to give info on upcoming games including solid release dates for games like Pikmin 3 and the Wonderful 101 isn't helping one bit. Also don't see the point in their 3DS showcase coming up next week as I honestly think it would be better suited for the Wii U seeing that it is the system that currently has to prove itself, not the 3DS.
Hicken  +   561d ago
One of the big differences when you're talking about ports on a handheld vs. ports on a console is that... well, you can leave the house with the handheld.

Yeah, you can play Muramasa on the Wii. AT HOME ONLY. Dragon Crown, by the way, is cross-play. And P4G is not only a few generations apart and portable, but comes with so much additional content it's almost not even the same game.

On the Wii U side, the ports being referenced are likely already playable on a console that would be RIGHT NEXT to your Wii U, or they'll be coming out on multiple systems when they DO release. And few of them come with significant content increases or improvements.
miyamoto  +   561d ago
No offense mate. but by your logic Monster Hunter is a Phantasy Star Online clone.

MH has SO MANY game play elements PSO started on the Dreamcast in 2001.

OT

Even tho the Sega Dreamcast is one of the greatest console ever made, its the MANY NEW Ground Breaking Games that mattered to it.

Phantasy Star Online, Soul Calibur, Sonic Adventure 1&2, Virtua Fighter 3TB, Shen Mue, Crazy Taxi, Project Gotham Racing, Virtual On Oratorio Tangram, Jet Set Radio, Space Shannel 5, and CAPCOM's undying 3rd party support: RE Code Veronica, Power Stone 1&2, MVC 1&2, Capcom vs SNK 1&2, Techromancer,

I didn't care too much about dual screen gaming. Got annoyed by Dreamcast VMU dual screen integration on RE Code Veronica, just had to turn it off, looking up and down between two screens big and small is not convenient.

The good thing about the PSV and PS3 PS4 dual screen gaming control proposition is its completely OPTIONAL and non mandatory.

The PSV can stand and thrive on its own away from the PS3 or PS4 unlike the Wii U Gamepad.
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FriedGoat  +   560d ago
Project gotham? I believe you mean metropolis street racer!
dark-hollow  +   561d ago
What happened to "give it time" that being said in every vita thread in the past by everyone? It doesn't apply to the Wii u too?
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BosSSyndrome  +   561d ago
@dedicatedtogamers
Um no dude. Vita has been out for over a year. There have been minimal "Vita is doomed" articles. Meanwhile 3ds and Wii U are saturated with doom articles from before their launch until they start selling millions. Give the Wii U a year just like the Vita.
MaxXAttaxX  +   561d ago
^
Maybe people's expectations for a Nintendo console were different from a Sony handheld.

Also it's been over a year. I think you've forgotten.
FriedGoat  +   560d ago
The difference is, in a year the WiiU has more market share to lose... Its the only console in it's gen at the moment, in a year even less will be buying wiiU
Ck1x  +   561d ago
So it took the Vita a whole year to get these games that you speak of and yet the WiiU can't get 6months before you fanboys call it a failure on the market. The fact of the matter is most of the exclusive games coming to the WiiU are unlike anything on any of the other systems, so your analysis there is wrong that you can play these games anywhere... Japan is actually more of a portable marketplace so one would expect that the Vita would be doing even better with the price cut it had. But all of this celebration is premature, once Pokemon X/Y comes out for 3ds there's really no chance after that!
dedicatedtogamers  +   561d ago
These games are unlike ANYTHING on the market? What?!? Tell me! You mean games like Scribblenatus, Epic Mickey 2, Batman Arkham City, Mass Effect, and Darksiders II?

Oh, you said exclusives. You mean games like Mario Kart U, Zelda U, Pikmin U, and 3D Mario U? Yeah, nothing like that has ever been made before!

And despite nine main-series Pokemon games (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, Black, Black 2, White, White 2, SoulSilver, and HeartGold) coming to the DS, the PSP somehow managed to sell 80 million units over its lifespan. I think the Vita will do just fine...
Zer0bros  +   561d ago
Pokemon? Do people still play that regurgitated game? Wow..
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GezForce  +   560d ago
I just picked up persona 4 golden on my vita.. its awesome :).
chrisarsenalsavart  +   561d ago
be patient people, wiiu games will come eventually and every little things gonna be alright.
JoGam  +   561d ago
lol
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Donnieboi  +   561d ago
Will Wii U get games that are not sequels or spin offs of sequels too? Games utilizing next gen middleware like Unreal Engine 4, Luminous, and the engine from Deep Down (panta Rhei is what I think it's called). How about that amazing photo-realistic next gen engine by Activision. If Battlefield 4 were to come out for Wii U, could it even handle 64 players, or only 24 like current gen. Forget that, would EA even bother putting it on Wii U in the first place? Is the Origin dispute really why EA has stopped bringing games to Wii U, or would EA still choose not to even if Nintendo allowed origin (especially after EA looks at the dismal sales of the Wii U after all this time).

MMO's might actually be a big thing next gen, is Wii U powerful enough to run large scale mmo's, and is the fact that Wii U uses WiFi instead of an ethernet port a hinderance to MMO's or large scale online games from coming to it? Are devs supposed to expect EVERY wii U owner to buy an ethernet adapter/converter?

Will it have strong 3rd party support despite these issues?

Can someone tell me the likelyhood of these things happening for the Wii U? Is one wrong for considering all these issues before buying a Wii U? No. And these are issues that WILL effect Wii U's ability to compete. Not saying it already failed, but these issues are not making it any easier. Especially the lack of new original Nintendo IP's on their HOME console.
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Oh_Yeah  +   561d ago
It was confirmed no unreal engine 4 on wii u and I'm guessing many other engines will also be skipping it. I ask this to everyone who thinks about getting a Nintendo system, do you REALLY like Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Smash Bros, Metroid, etc? If so get it, if not then don't.. Its as simple as that.
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truechainz  +   561d ago
Don't care if there are sequels as long as they are still good. Everyone complains about them not releasing tons of new IP's when in reality Nintendo's current ones have such a rooted brand that any new IP Nintendo releases will be hilariously outgunned by the new 3d mario, Zelda, Smash Bros, etc. no matter how good it actually is. I'm not saying that you shouldn't consider these issues if they are important to you and what you buy, but I'm just saying if I enjoy the sequel more than the new IP because I feel it is a genuinely better game (regardless of the console)then I don't think that a company should be ridiculed for that. It is the same reason why I like the God of War series more than any new IP Sony has put out and there are like seven of those games on different platforms.
Theyellowflash30  +   561d ago
Actually, Unreal Engine 4 is coming to Wii U, it's just not supported by Epic themselves. Cry Engine 3 runs on Wii U, The Hedgehog Engine runs on Wii U, Ubisoft's Anvil Engine runs on Wii U. Unity, and Framework run on Wii U.

Unreal Engine 4 might not be anywhere near as successful as Unreal Engine 3. Many developers have their own engines for their games.
MasterCornholio  +   561d ago
Is that the prayer you make to the gods of gaming before going to bed?

LOL im just kidding but IMO if Nintendo doesnt bring the goods to the Wii U it will not succeed with 2 other consoles hogging all the 3rd party games.

@Donnieboy

"and is the fact that Wii U uses WiFi instead of an ethernet port"

ROFL the Wii U is a gaming console and the Wii U would have to be designed by morons to not have an ethernet port. Seriously i dont believe that the Wii U doesnt have a LAN port.
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Ol_G  +   560d ago
It doesn't have one -.- atleast mine the thing is not everybody likes cables and internet lag isn't the same as 10 years ago so i don't see the problem.
Remember when you had to buy wifi for 360 and how much it costs .
funny people now complaining it has no ethernet port
nypifisel  +   560d ago
Why? How is it moronic to discard an Ethernet port in 2013? Are you living in the forest, under a tree somewhere, banging sticks together trying to get some fire? Jeez, WiFi only makes sense in this day and age, having an Ethernet port does not.
SilentNegotiator  +   561d ago
We already know the history of how successful hardware is on games alone (without consideration of how the system fit in to the gaming world); Gamecube.

Without the system itself being compelling, Wii U won't see a major turnaround. And without a strong online community or spike in power, it won't attract hardcore gamers. Without the promise of exercise, it doesn't have anything unique to attract the casuals like Wii did.

Ps3 and 360 NEVER DID AS POORLY as the Wii U because 360 attracted people with its strong online community, Ps3 attracted people with its Blu-ray, and both were a major advancement over previous consoles. Wii did well because it was supposed to be a "fun" way to lose weight, seniors to stay active, kid-friendliness, etc...it operated ENTIRELY outside the normal rules of video game consoles and did well for it.
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Theyellowflash30  +   561d ago
The Wii U outsold the PS3 and Xbox 360 in their first four months on the market.

So your technically wrong. And the market in 2006 is different then, than it is now. If you think the PS4 and Xbox 720 are going to come out and fly off shelves at $400+.... you're in for a rude awakening.

We are currently in a economic recession. People don't have a much money to spend on gaming. That's why the walmart $99 Xbox's are flying off shelf, and the 3DS is doing so well. Cheap gaming with a lot of games.
lilbroRx  +   561d ago
Not sure if whoever wrote this has read the charts in recent weeks, but the Wii U has been topping the Vita for a good while now.

How is selling less than something else coming back and selling more failing? Especially when you consider that handhelds generally have higher sells than consoles.

Platform | America | Europe | Japan | Global

WiiU | 24,872 | 16,310 | 22,485 | 68,391

PSV | 6,470 | 9,225 | 32,944 | 53,283
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Aceman18  +   561d ago
they were just talking about japan not the worldwide numbers.

edit

i think it just has to do with the fact that even with a big game like dragon quest which is extremely popular in japan that it actually did horrible for its usually releases over there, and it didnt really help the wii u much.

nintendo needs to let people know what the system is all about and their failing to do that imo
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lilbroRx  +   561d ago
Ah, so they truncated the data and effectively moved the goalpost to cover only the single spot that was beneficial for their opinion? Then on top of that, they don't compare Vita to "its actual real competitor", the 3DS, at all.

So if they are going to single out the small lead in Japanese sales, then where are the two articles singling out the huge lead in American and European sells for balance?

These writers are clearly not biased fanboys who are trying to twist data and bash the Wii U from whatever angle is most convenient. Nope, not even a little bit...
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InMyOpinion  +   561d ago
Wouldn't it make more sense to compare the Vita to the 3DS, since they're both handhelds and the Wii-U is not? Just a crazy thought.
GribbleGrunger  +   561d ago
mmmm... That's odd because I'm a member of that site and that's not the way I've been seeing it. I guess I spend too much time on the forum there discussing the sales figures and not enough time looking at the sales figures.
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Donnieboi  +   561d ago
A remake of a last gen Monster Hunter (with bonuses) and a new Dragon Quest game are to thank for that. But the increase is not amazing enough considering that those two game franchises are extremely popular. The increase was not big enough to make waves (aside from it selling more than Vita...which is not saying much).
gamer42  +   561d ago
The monster hunter 3 port already came out in december in japan, so the boost was really because of dragon quest.
chadboban  +   561d ago
Um Dragon Quest X isn't new. It was already released for the Wii last year so it is basically an enhanced port as well. Had it actually been a new dragon quest, I think sales would've been a little better in Japan.
lilbroRx  +   561d ago
Dragon Quest X is also a remake of a last gen game, albeit with less added content.
PopRocks359  +   561d ago
So a Vita gets a price drop which leads to a boost in Japan and it's huge and amazing and successful now.

Then when the Wii U gets a few new games and a boost in multiple regions (even outselling the Vita) it's not a big deal.

That's backwards logic if ever I've seen it.
jcnba28  +   561d ago
I know this article is pathetic lol.
Aceman18  +   561d ago
also think about it dragon quest usually does between 300-500k in its first week of release in japan and moves systems.

for it to do only 33k upon release and barely helps move wii u speaks volumes.

@donnie

lol im not worried what anyone says or thinks. everyone who knows about dragon quest knows its a big game in japan and doing 33k is just horrible for that franchise over there.
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Donnieboi  +   561d ago
Shhhhh...don't say logical things like that! It doesn't fit the Ninty militia's propaganda.

Edit RE: yeah I know Ace, it's called sarcasm. <3
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chadboban  +   561d ago
Like I said before, Dragon Quest X is pretty much a straight port of what has proven to be the least popular dragon quest game ever that was only released months ago for the Wii. I can pretty much understand why people didn't exactly clamor to get their hands on it seeing that it
1) Is already available on Wii
2) Is pretty much one of the least well received DQ games sales wise in years.

I'll admit I expected it to do better, but honestly, it not doing that well given the circumstances isn't exactly that shocking to me.
Ck1x  +   561d ago
Here's how little you know about DQ and its fans! The title that first launched on the Wii and then on the WiiU is an MMO... Since when have DQ games ever been a MMO status and considered as the normal franchise. If most of Japan really didn't care for that type of game on the Wii, they surely wouldn't care for it on the WiiU. So I guess because Sony is releasing an Uncharted card game, you expect that to sell like the main game does. That's real smarts there...
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xursz  +   561d ago
Wait so nobody had the sense to call out libroRx's fake numbers? Well, too bad I came late to the party. Everything except Japan is straight from vgchartz. Why do you think he would exclude his source?
mshope10  +   561d ago
well you can't say wii u is failing and vita's doing better when with no price cut wii u was the top selling home console this week in Japan.and portables always outsell consoles in Japan look at 3ds it is always crushing it.

and wii u is beating vita worldwide. this week with no price cut.are you people crazy?
Ol_G  +   560d ago
They are fanboys not a gaming fan but Sony fanboys what did you expect?
Theyellowflash30  +   561d ago
This article is manipulating data to support their point.
Jadedz  +   561d ago
Whatever
The Wii U isn't for everyone (same for Vita).
Gaming_Guru  +   561d ago
The Wii U actually sold more than the PS3 or Xbox 360 around the same time frame, so when people say the Wii U is failing than the PS3 and Xbox 360 failed as well.
hollabox  +   561d ago
The hardware numbers look good but like we all know publishers make money on software. Wii U only has two titles that has gone over 1 Million sold both published by Nintendo, the highest grossing third party game has only sold around 390,000 units or so with most of the Wii U titles not breaking 50,000 units sold. In North America Wii U hardware sales are abysmal in units sold since December. Most stores I've seen are fully stocked on Wii U units. I assume most of Wii U installment base will be in Japan and Europe. Unfortunately the regions with the highest software is North America followed by Europe and than Japan.

Referenced
http://www.vgchartz.com/pla...
Shnazzyone  +   561d ago
http://www.vgchartz.com/pla...

lol, and vita's been out for over a year too. Ehh, you know that's not fair comparing vita numbers with wii u... guess we should compare it to 3ds, it's actual competition.

http://www.vgchartz.com/pla...
Mr_Writer85  +   561d ago
Wait, so because a new console out sold two old consoles for one week. That makes the old consoles a failure?

Wow

Just wow
theEx1Le  +   560d ago
Thats not what he said, what he said was in the same time frame. I.E when they first launched, they had poorer sales numbers than the WiiU has now.
H4all  +   561d ago
if you all arguing with each other..
it wont change anything..
chadboban  +   561d ago
So wait a second. What's the actual point of this article? That after more than a year of abysmal sales the Vita is finally doing better because it's now getting games while the Wii U after 5 months and no major release dates for any big upcoming titles still continues to do poorly (also please keep in mind that this article seems to focus solely on Japan for whatever reason).

Why are folks looking at the sales of an enhanced version of a Wii game that came out a couple of months ago in Japan which has already has proven to be the least popular Dragon Quest game ever as an indication that the Wii U is a failure? Things aren't looking good for the Wii U right now, seeing as Nintendo is so damn stubborn to give out any info on any of their upcoming games. But had this article been written 5 months into the Vita's life cycle, the picture looked pretty freaking bad as well.

Anyhow, if the Wii U sales don't take a massive leap by the time it reaches the point the Vita has reached in it's life right now, then we can use words like "failure". Nintendo has handled the Wii U launch terribly, even after they stated that they learned their lesson with the 3DS. I just want to see Nintendo treat this situation with a bit more urgency.

The 3DS is doing great as it is right now, so would someone please tell me why the hell do Nintendo feel the need to give the 3DS it own presentation coming up next week. They should be doing that for the Wii U, it's the system that NEEDS a showcase of upcoming games, not the 3DS.
truechainz  +   561d ago
I think from all the comments I have seen you are the most logical person on n4g. I wish they were having a showcase to. The only reason I can assume they wouldn't is that the games just aren't ready to be shown yet. Though even just a little piece and some better marketing could do wonders for them.
Ol_G  +   560d ago
One of the few well argumented intelligent post i saw here +1 for you.
You must be older than 15
TongkatAli  +   561d ago
I don't wanna give flamebait a hit.
chadboban  +   561d ago
I'm honestly sorry that I clicked on it. Why are they even comparing them to begin with?

Vita is doing great now because it is a great system with some great games coming out for it now and even more in the future. The Wii U is a great console that recently had a freaking 3 month drought of games (I'm guessing due to Nintendo not foreseeing Ubisoft delaying Rayman) and has no solid release dates for any of it's future titles.

Seriously, it boggles my mind how poorly Nintendo is handling this. And I've said this before in some previous comments, but I see no point in Nintendo's upcoming 3DS presentation coming up next week seeing that the 3DS is doing pretty well for itself these days and the release schedule looks very promising. The Wii U is the one that needs a showcase of upcoming games right now, not the 3DS.
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ARESWARLORD  +   561d ago
PS Vita is awesome and is hitting its stride now. The Wii u is much newer, give it a year and it will be good to go or DOA. My money is on good to go
puamdefokejpn  +   561d ago
I thought one was a home system,.. and one is a portable,.. Stop with this stupid articles anyhow,..

Games and price will determine how a system sells,.. I have bought a Vita,.. and I love it.
lizard81288  +   561d ago
It doesn't help nobody wants too really make games for the wiiu. I'm sure eventually they will have too, when the ps4 and nextbox comes out. Just from a money standpoint, why take the risk, when you can make games on the two systems, ps3 and 360, with a big install base, then the wiiu with a small one, because it is new? But as soon as people have to upgrade, then we'll see what happens.

If M$ does always online, that is going to hurt them (even Steam has an offline mode). alot of people will go with the wiiu or PS3, and the wiiu should have a bigger selection of games by then too. The ps4 i'm sure will have a poopy launch, much like every other console, with PS4 is doomed articles flying here on N4G, ect. You normally want to wait a year or so, then good games start coming. Point being, the Wiiu will have an advantage being out longer, thus having better games, theoretically

Besides, the Wiiu and Vita are two different markets
FlyingFoxy  +   561d ago
Vita is a great machine, near PS3 quality graphics with some nice games & apps like YouTube & more coming. Not sure why some people hate it, if it's because of the price thats kind of a lame excuse because it's not a huge deal more over 3DS.
ZodTheRipper  +   561d ago
After the PS4 announcement, I'm considering buying a Vita ...before, I didn't really care about it. I think this and the price cut are the main reasons for the Vita getting more attention now.
DivineAssault  +   561d ago
vita & wii u havent even taken flight jus yet with new IPs & system seller games.. They will both grow a higher install base & get better games.. PSV still hasnt gotten a global price drop yet either.. Wii u will have to drop its price & release its heavy hitters before PS4 comes around or ppl will lose any interest they have left i think.. Im sure vita owners will jump on PS4 as soon as they can & when people see what the combo can do over wii u, it will look less & less attractive at its current price point.. They will both be fine though.. Nintendo just isnt going to sell wii u like it did the wii but who cares? As long as we get the games we want, it doesnt matter how much the units sell
BlindMango  +   561d ago
I like how the author didn't notice the link has the comment tag so everyone has to scroll up if they want to read the article, lol
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   561d ago
I am truly happy for the Vita.

I don't like "Fatalities"

Especially, when I know that a "fatality" would spook all console and handheld investors across the Gaming Industry.

So, please understand what I am saying when I give you the following mental exercise:

When did Vita come out?

How long did it take Vita to have these sales numbers?

Now Please apply what you have learned to the WiiU (and future consoles and handhelds).
LastXeno  +   561d ago
It's always a sony fan -_-
silkylove  +   561d ago
Dragon Quest X is a Wii port. A lot of Japanese gamers have already played it. Was he expecting the Wii U version to set Japan on fire?
MelonSaurus  +   561d ago
What's a Wii U?
G20WLY  +   560d ago
Oh c'mon, there's no need to be like that! You should totally get one, they're actually very versatile.

I use mine as a doorstop, but my mate uses his as a paperweight! ;P
SlapHappyJesus  +   561d ago
Love the mentality of this site.

Vita has an atrocious start, all you hear is "Its time will come".
WiiU has an atrocious start and you would swear the majority of the site literally want it truly fail.
chrispseuphoria  +   561d ago
It's because Nintendo isn't innovating with new IP's or ideas and that is why the Wii U deserves to fail in many peoples' eyes. Obviously, most gamers don't want to see Nintendo fail and that is why so many gamers outcry towards this. We want to believe in them again.

Ports, sequels and remakes are not the way Nintendo should be bringing up their new console. It may pick up with the new 3D Mario, Zelda and Super Smash Bros games if they actually put some new interesting mechanics into them rather than milking the "cash" cow.
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Ravenor  +   560d ago
Nintendo Cash Cow's like God of War, Gears of War and The adventures of Rico and Mister Chief. OH wait, that doesn't look right...

It feels like I haven't played a console based 3D Mario platform in years. Oh wait, it will be 3 flipping years next month. 3D Mario's on the Wii had the same gaps as God of War.

I also have to ask if you actually played either Galaxy, because as far as 3D platformers go they were very interesting.
shackdaddy  +   561d ago
This is why N4G is no longer my main website to visit. After the PS4 reveal, this place has just become one big circlejerk. I mean, before it was still pretty circlejerky, but it was at least tolerable back then.
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Mr_Writer85  +   560d ago
The difference is the WiiU like the Wii is a gimmick.

Also the Vita's going up against the 3DS, where as at the moment the WiiU is up against the 360 and PS3, which its only slightly better then.

But has the nextbox and PS4 to come, which blow the WiiU out of the water.

Also the release of the PS4 and its ability to connect to the Vita gives people another reason to buy it.

What reason does the WiiU have another Mario, Zelda and Metroid game? Maybe a new Pokemon game? Thats not going to be enough to save the WiiU.

I do want it to fail Nintendo have been holding back gaming for too long, they sold out with the Wii, and are now paying for it.

Then again had they not made the Wii they would of died years ago.
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chrispseuphoria  +   561d ago
Nintendo really is in trouble if Dragon Quest X and Monster Hunter 3 aren't reeling anyone to the Wii U. I guess people are fed up seeing the same games time and time again.
NBT91  +   561d ago
Not really. I have a WII U and just happen to not be interested in either of those games. But then Lego City is great.
I see the WII U as such. It's worth having for the exclusives, even if not all of them are games you are interested in.

I mean something like MGSV or Last Of Us obviously is different. You have these epic stories that really drag you in with stunning graphics. But WII U games feel like more traditional, almost "Old School" games and why do we play old games from time to time? Because it is fun!

And that pretty much sums up what I think of my WII U experience so far. I would describe the kinds of games I want to play on PlayStation as "epic" "awesome" and such, WII U on the other hand I want to play exclusives that are "fun", something which the likes of Super Smash has in the bucket loads.

If you are truly a gamer then take my word for it, the WII U is definitely worth adding to your gaming collection / library. The only reason I really see for not getting one, is A) can't easily afford it and justify spending the money (understandable) or B) You have something against the console or Nintendo, which is a little sad, to put it politely.
chrispseuphoria  +   561d ago
I want to see Nintendo succeed. If they don't, that's bad for the industry in general. I actually bought a Wii U and I liked the controls and the Gamepad. That's neat but there aren't any games that set the world on fire. That is the reason why I returned it within a week. Just being "fun" doesn't cut it anymore. You need "fun", "epic", and "awesome" games to become successful. Variety is the spice of life but Nintendo only seem to cover one of those bases rather than all three which the other two big companies arguably seem to be covering.

Being old school is fine and dandy but not changing at all is plain lazy. Also, as an associate at a electronics retailer, I had to explain so many times that the New Super Mario Bros U was on Wii U, not on Wii. Old school is not how you should bring up a new console because it confuses consumers when they already have a Wii with the same style of game.
Ck1x  +   561d ago
So now Nintendo gets judged by the quality and sales of two 3rd party games! I didn't see any of you guys blaming Sony or Microsoft for Aliens CM being a horrible game. MH3 isn't new to the WiiU or 3ds for that matter and DQX is a MMO that originated on the Wii as well and is a departure from the main gameplay mechanics. Now everyone should take notice how MH4 ends up selling on the 3ds, as this will be the first real MH game in quite sometime. But if these games were say Nintendo's brand new titles for the system and they failed to move hardware, then that would be a major problem indeed...

Edit:New IP's are great, but if game #1 feels and plays like game #2 then what's the reasoning for creating a new franchise. All of these people thinking that you can only innovate with new IP's obviously haven't played many games lately. You know that people need to really look in the mirror when you start seeing them trash Nintendo on gameplay mechanics! Lol
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MultiConsoleGamer  +   561d ago
Dishonest journalism and deliberate misrepresentation of facts.

There is no comeback. And Wii U will be fine, just like the Vita.

Want to know how you can tell this article is agenda driven fanboy garbage? Just look at how the title pits one product against the other. Notice how it praises one product and dooms the other.

Articles like this are the biggest problem with n4g.
Ravenor  +   560d ago
You mean children/man children with a crummy low rent soap box?
OMNlPOTENT  +   561d ago
Vita has had over a year.. Wii U hasn't even had 6 months.
BitbyDeath  +   561d ago
Means nothing, handhelds are more popular in Japan.
jaymart2k  +   561d ago
Didn't know Vita was a console. Can I hook it to my 40inch 1080p HDTV?
NBT91  +   561d ago
Probably can actually, I reckon PS4 will have a feature that lets people do exactly that.
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Deku-Johnny  +   561d ago
The Vita has been out for a year and is just starting to get good games. When the Wii U gets more games (namely their 1st party games) the sales will inevitably increase. Both consoles will do well eventually it just takes most consoles a bit of time to get on the right track.
isyourhouseonfire  +   561d ago
As crappy as the Vita is, its insane how crappy the Wii U is. It's a new console that couldn't even compete in the current generation, despite launching near the end of life of the other consoles.

Nintendo.. Why???
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