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Submitted by jcnba28 471d ago | rumor

Rumour: Free Dev Kits for Third-Parties, Wii U Getting More Support

Nintendo are rumoured to be giving Wii U dev kit’s to third parties free of charge.

Jonathan Holmes of Destructoid has revealed to the Twitterverse than Nintendo may be handing our more than one Wii U dev kit free of charge. (Wii U)

Hopefully
Is this rumor true? Rumor votes 25
Rrobba  +   471d ago
This could be an effective tactic, especially for encouraging smaller developers to bring third-party multiplats to the Wii U.

Good move if true, Nintendo.
iGAM3R-VIII  +   471d ago
Agreed, it is nice to see Nintendo doing this, they could be preparing for E3 as well and trying to put out some new exclusives
AZWification2  +   471d ago
I hope they are doing something.
Winter47th  +   471d ago
You DO realize that a dev kit costs $4,000 right? Any video game company worth its salt should have gotten one before launch. The only ones who will benifit from this are indie developers and even they are screwed with how horrible Wii U's network is.

So no, not really. No one will benefit from this. They're beating on a dead horse.

Besides, this only shows how DESPERATE Nintendo is.
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dcbronco  +   471d ago
Downside is that it doesn't get any more desperate than that.
iGAM3R-VIII  +   471d ago
@Winter47th I see you copied that exact comment from the comment section i this article and the funny thing is is that it too has more disagrees than agrees. Nintendo are not that desperate because if they were they would of given it to EVERY company but they gave it to SELECT companies.

"No one will benefit from this."

The people who own the Wii U so they get more games and Nintendo because they publish more games and have more games for E3 and the developers because they get a free expensive dev kit
blackbeld  +   471d ago
Agree great move from Nintendo.

Now I Will try to make some Nintendo games too.

Really Nice great tactics.
LOL_WUT  +   470d ago
Agreed, a little desperate but, a good move nonetheless. ;)
AZWification2  +   471d ago
@Winter47th Other mindless hater. What a surprise. Indie devs are HAPPY with the Wii U, because the eShop gives a lot of attention to indie games and also Nintendo doesn't charge devs to patch games. The only console that can somehow reach the Wii U in terms of indie devs is the PS4.
Tultras  +   470d ago
No, this won't help anyone, I mean sure, more games for the wii U, but the WiiU owners and Nintendo fans purchase only 1st party games, and give horrible support to third party games.
gamer42  +   470d ago
I think they're giving it out to indie devs, even then I would like to disagree, If you look at the wiiu eshop charts the top 10 mostly consists of indie games. I have actually downloaded the quite a few indie games games (like little inferno, and mighty switch force, next I'll get toki tori) Indie games are usually always in the spotlight in the eshop, so i think they'll do just fine.
Godmars290  +   471d ago
If they've never done this before it tells you how things are going on the development side.
MasterCornholio  +   471d ago
Did anyone ever give away development kits for their console? Even Sony doesn't give away Vita development kits for free.
majiebeast  +   471d ago
Sony loans them out if they like what the dev is making, also a psvita devkit is like 3000$.

@Jamal
Shut up. Do you ever contribute to the discussion?
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Good_Guy_Jamal  +   471d ago
SONY couldn't even give Vita development kits away for free. - fixed it for you.
Ashlen  +   471d ago
I think there is a lot of pressure from PC these days. Anyone can make a game on PC and not have to pay any fees depending on what tool set they use.

Even a lot of the larger tool sets are free if you aren't expecting to make more than a certain amount of profit. And you can always make your own.

And with Steam Greenlight where you basically only have to pay 100$ to list and then publish on Steam or even Desura it's not surprising the consoles would move in this direction.

Really, indy is the best thing to happen to gaming, hopefully it will continue to put pressure on the larger gaming institutions.
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Kran  +   471d ago
By tool, do you mean engine? Because most engines charge for something. Not much, (you could easily get it back in sales) but still a lot.
dungeonboss  +   471d ago
The correct term in all instances is "loan". Even the devs Holmes was referring to were offered loaner Wii U dev kits. Nintendo isn't just "giving" them away for "free". There are still conditions, i.e. the developer still needs to make and publish a game with the thing and then either return or buy the development kits when development ends.

When people phrase it like "Nintendo is giving away free dev kits", it makes it sound like they've got free candy at booth 418. They still have stringent quality standards, and that's why only a handful of devs with stellar projects in the pipeline are receiving these "free dev kits" on loan.
Realplaya  +   471d ago
IMO it's a smart move. I always felt like this should happen.
If I am looking to make a game and have no money I would love a free kit that way I could make a game make money and make more games. Therefore I make money and make companies money.
Mustang300C2012  +   471d ago
I don't see how this is going to work. Sure it will save on kits but the issue isn't the expensiveness of kits. It is taking a chance if they are going to get a return profit from whatever it cost to make the game for the system. I am sure some will take advantage but it will be based if they are going to take a chance in the first place.
dungeonboss  +   471d ago
The way it works is this:
Dev #1 has a history of making amazing games. They express interest in publishing on Nintendo platforms. Nintendo reviews their current project plans and ensures the project has potential for success on Wii U for both Nintendo and the dev. Dev team needs 2 or more dev units. This costs money. Nintendo tells dev that they will loan a dev kit, under certain terms (covered by NDA). Dev makes game according to plan. If Nintendo's analysis was correct, game makes money for both Nintendo AND dev. Wii U owners are happy because they get another game. Dev either returns loaned dev kits or purchases them per agreement.

Backtracking a bit:
Dev #2 has made a few decent iOS games. Nintendo offers standard dev kit procedure.

Dev #3 has made a single crappy Flash game and thinks it would be cool to make a Wii U game. They have an amazing vision for the future, but to date have not shown that they have the skills to execute their vision. Their application is denied by Nintendo. They are not even allowed to purchase a dev kit.

Of course, terms are under NDA, so users (i.e. N4G) will not know which developers get "free" kits and which ones pay the normal licensing fees.
Mustang300C2012  +   471d ago
I am not confused how it works. None of what you said or how the process goes doesn't guarantee success.

Wii U users are not buying the games NOW let alone the system. So saying Wii users will be happy doesn't say much. You can say this about any console/PC user they will all be happy. The problem is going from 200 users happy to 2 million.
dungeonboss  +   471d ago
Wai? Wha? The Wii U has over 3 million users already... the Wii U eShop has been a huge success for Toki Tori 2, Nano Assualt Neo, Trine 2, and Runner2. In fact, Trine 2 sold better on Wii U than it did on Xbox Live....

I understand that the console performed badly in January and February when there were no games, but the console sold like crazy this month in America and Europe because of Lego City and Monster Hunter.

The console sold 3 million in it's first two months, and those people need games. They are finding those games on the eShop. NPD and Media Create don't report eShop numbers, but the devs are reporting that sales of their games is fantastic!
Ck1x  +   471d ago
How are people spinning this into bad news if it amounts to more games and content coming to the system in the end? Yet somehow Sony does everything good for developers but Nintendo and Microsoft, when they do something it's out of desperation and is a failure before it even sees results! You people are crazy I tell you...
jcnba28  +   471d ago
This is N4G, sony fans hate good Nintendo news. It's sad I know.
TongkatAli  +   471d ago
We ignore folks like you, so its all good, you a try hard Sony hater : (
PopRocks359  +   470d ago
What are you talking about? Ck1x didn't so much as utter a critical word about Sony or their products.

Sheesh, and people call me defensive.
Ck1x  +   470d ago
Sure you do! That's why I'm replying to your comment from a Nintendo related article. Where most of you Sony slaves tend to spend most of your time I see... Never quite understood that really. I'm not the biggest fan of the Xbox brand, but then again you don't see me trolling their articles getting on my soapbox there about how great company x&y are. Unemployed Teenagers these days are just the worst :-)
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CrowGoblin  +   471d ago
Indie games are selling well on the eShop because there's just no new retail games being released. Wii U users are gagging for games and Nintendo just aren't delivering anywhere near enough to satisfy the people who bought the console in the first place.
gamer42  +   470d ago
Well if the indie devs are making money, other devs will see this and will want to make the same kind of money by developing for the wiiu. and as long as nintendo keeps advertising the indie games like they are now in the eshop, the indie games will continue to sell.
miyamoto  +   471d ago
The question is:

Will the core loyal exclusively-gaming-on-Nintendo fanbase even care about these 3rd party games?
jcnba28  +   470d ago
I think they will when the games are released around the same time as the other platforms. Some of the ports already on Wii U didn't sell much but you can't blame the gamers when the ports were rushed. Look at Mass Effect 3, how lazy were the devs to not give Wii U owners the trilogy? And then the devs complain that nobody buys third party games on Wii U.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   470d ago
IThink this is a smart move.
I am not spelling the fate of the WiiU by saying the following:

Nintendo has been having this third party problem for a while.
It is going to take consistent inroads like this to solve the problem.

I suggest:

-They need A Great to Decent 1st Party game in every Genre.
This will wet whistles for other AAA titles. It will grow the market maybe pulling some game developers and Journalist away from their XBox live friends to undertake a new exclusive experience.

-They need a 365 hype-machine.
Once they have a Decent to great game in every genre, they have to consistently release info and hype it to remind gamers that it exist an that it will be better next time.

-They need to realize that Some Genres need to appear at least 3 times on a console in a 5-6 yrs console cycle.
I know some call this milking but not the "cORE". Making a game engine and then doing incremental upgrades to the engine and story is totally expected with AAA games and movies.

BUT

Things like free Development Kits and Free Development tools to Indies are great ideals.

Also, I have liked the collaborations and the ways that they have intrust Money-Franchises into the hands of other Developers.

Finally, I also hope that they also help launch some aspiring Indies toward Bigger titles.
Agent_hitman  +   470d ago
Oh yeah why can't sony and MS do the same thing for next generation?. Since they are more wealthier than ninty.

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