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EA Comments on ‘Worst Company in America’ Poll

Electronic Arts COO Peter Moore has responded to a recent poll in which EA was chosen as a semifinalist for “Worst Company in America.” (An "honor" it also received last year.) (EA, Industry)

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a_bro  +   459d ago | Well said
”Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong.”

yea, thats because you're forcing it and putting it into our throats. we can't buy Sim City(not that i want to after that stupid always on BS), Crysis 3, Battlefield 3, Medal of Honor: Warfighter, and of course Soon to Be released, Battlefield 4 on steam, cant we?
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decrypt  +   459d ago
Personally i havent bought a EA game after BF3 and dont intend on doing so until BF4. I dont see anything else worth while on their list either.

So they have me on Origin however i havent logged on in a year. Hell its uninstalled from my PC.

What else can they expect when they have the worst possible anti customer friendly policies around.

Shutting down online servers just so people buy the next game. EA will use all sort of tactics to milk their customer base.
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aiBreeze  +   459d ago
His entire response was just standard corp drivel, typical of EA. So when they get voted worst company in America, they're just going to put their hands up in the air, call everyone spiteful and then fall back on their registered origin users stat.

Still wish I could not buy EA games, if Fifa is as bad as 13, I probably can rid myself of them completely. Same with Origin though, never log in and own 2 accounts simply because EA forces origin registration on almost all their game sales now.
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MikeMyers  +   459d ago
EA is a very powerful company and they are very hard to ignore. That's why they remain relevant. If we had choices that would make it much easier to decide where consumers would go. If games are only available on Origin for example that doesn't mean they favor it over a competitive service like Steam.

One has to ask what makes any company the worst?

Are they bad to work for? They were sued over overtime not being paid. People have left on bad terms. Development teams have closed down.

Are they innovative? We seen some great new IP's like Dead Space. But we also seen the company play it way too safe and some IP's changed for the worse (Dragon Age II).

Are they profitable? The whole industry seems to be down so it's hard to blame it all on EA but how do they compare overall?

Do they have good customer relations? Simple answer, no.
vulcanproject  +   459d ago
Their customer support is appalling. Probably the worst I have ever dealt with, and I have dealt with a lot, and a lot of crummy ones.

EA's take the biscuit.

Get whoever managed Amazon customer support on the job, because they are world class.
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TopDudeMan  +   459d ago
Just because I'm registered for origin doesn't mean I like being registered on origin.

When talking about something qualitative, they cannot bring numbers into it. If they did a customer satisfaction survey, they'd find that out.
Rhythmattic  +   459d ago
OT.. but fun all the same...

EA and its Biscuits..

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Dmarc  +   459d ago
Those bullet points shows exactly why they are considered the worst in America.
I bet he thinks that since on disc DLC sell millions that means everyone who buy it "enjoys" on disc DLC.

So stupid.
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CapsLocke  +   459d ago
BF4 is basically BF3
da_2pacalypse  +   459d ago
Also, I believe that console users that play the recent EA games like BF3 will also be tallied in this 45 million player count. For example, Bioware accounts got migrated, and battlelog accounts are also origin accounts.

This 45 million is a huge lie.
g2gshow  +   459d ago
im proud of the money we are making tall'st tree catch the most wind. in other words he just said fu@#k you we expect some of you pu#$y to be up set heres a pat on the head now go f@##k you'r self

they even admit to shutting down severs early lol do you want the to come to you'r house an spit i n you'r face will you get the point then ???
im not buying anything E.A or M.S
Gaming101  +   459d ago
Yet another executive hack from EA giving typical Public Relations spin (aka B.S.)

Instead of actually showing how they can improve, they simply acknowledge problems but offer no solutions that actually work or address the real issue.
chaos-lockheart  +   459d ago
maybe they should publish half a response and then dlc all of the remaning
Bobby Kotex  +   459d ago
Not even BF4 will get me to install that Origin crap again.
REALgamer  +   459d ago
Here's something to think about: I can't play Portal, TF2, L4D2, Half-Life 2, etc without having Steam 'forced' on me.

Why are there double-standards for EA requiring their own service, but Valve doing the same thing is good?
SilentNegotiator  +   459d ago
Proud Origin-free PC gamer.

EA probably thinks it got voted worst because of "dem homophobes and whiny Madden fans"
Baka-akaB  +   459d ago
they need to disclose how many actually pruchased stuff on origins , as dlc to even have a point .

The damn thing ship with the games
aiBreeze  +   459d ago
Lol you're having a joke right? That's what EA does best, taking the best possible statistic from any situation. This is a company that was left so red faced by the amount of active subscribers, they had to boast about the minutes played in SWTOR at E3. Anyone going that low to try and turn a tortanic disaster into a positive isn't going to reveal negative stats.
Baka-akaB  +   459d ago
I know , it's obvious they werent going to disclose the truth .
Aloren  +   459d ago
Well, steam also ships with games.
As soon as you have an EA account and Origin, you're registered, it doesn't make it any less true if you don't buy games daily.
Kran  +   459d ago
”Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong.”

Im sorry but you were just voted worst company in america AGAIN; 45 million users, to which barely 5 million of them even use their accounts on a daily basis does not make up for it.
Pyrrhus  +   459d ago
From the blogpost:
' Many continue to claim the Always-On function in SimCity is a DRM scheme. It’s not. People still want to argue about it. We can’t be any clearer – it’s not. Period.

Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong.

Some people think that free-to-play games and micro-transactions are a pox on gaming. Tens of millions more are playing and loving those games.

We’ve seen mailing lists that direct people to vote for EA because they disagree with the choice of the cover athlete on Madden NFL. Yes, really…'

EA are a joke.
matgrowcott  +   459d ago
I'm up for looking more closely at Origins figures, but this is so hypocritical. The only reason to have Steam 10 years ago was because it was forced. Now, dozens of PC games force people to install Steam.

Knock it for its faults, by all means, but let's at least judge from an even field.
Baka-akaB  +   459d ago
Except that when we complained about Steam , especially when at first they forced its use to search counterstrike and dod servers over programs better at the time , they quickly reacted and constantly improved the service .

You also forget how steam were pretty much pioneers in that area .

meanwhile EA comes along humming , despite it's massive fundings , and propose a shitty service from the get go , in the face of a strong competition .

Did Google propose something perfect and stable against apple and itunes at first when they started their android platforms and market endeavours ? of course not , plenty work was needed , but they still proposed something in a decent enough shape , with mostly content missing .

I dont buy the Valve is our god , and Steam our only savior koolaid ... but they deserves their due , and Origins deserves none so far .
0ut1awed  +   459d ago
Fucking exactly. Now with the BF4 trailer it looks like EA wants to turn it into their version of COD. Pretty explosions everywhere....
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r1sh12  +   459d ago
they could be voted worst company in the world, but if people are buying into EA games its not going to make the business change.
On FIFA for example there is an issue around peoples accounts being hacked etc.. but when that happens the person who's account is hacked will complain on the internet, then go and buy the next version of FIFA.
LOOOL - At some point many people need to look at themselves.
MoonConquistador  +   459d ago
Well said r1sh12. As much as people can blame the developers or publishers for introducing shady tactics, the consumers themselves need to ask who let them get away with it.
Crazyglues  +   459d ago
I DON'T KNOW WHY? People complain because at the end of the day you are going to eat the Mud... Yes! eat the Mud...

45 Million users on Origin ...LoL (all that proves is gamers will bit^h and whine and complain but at the end of the day they will just go along with it..)

That's what they always do, if you never stick to your guns.. How can EA even take your complaints serious...

Why do you think Microsoft knows they can get away with an always on Console - Because truth be told people will say oh I'm not buying it, and then two week later guess what they got... LMAO...

It's too easy for EA to just laugh at gamers... Same problem with Occupy Wall Street... how can anyone take it serious with, no leader, no set goal, no plan - I mean come on' At least if you say your not going to buy the game At least have the discipline to Not buy the Game...

I mean Wow... come on people' If YOU WANT USED GAMES TO STILL BE A PART OF GAMING you have to fight for it.. These companies are not going to just do it..

You need a Real Leader with real followers who will not buy the game if they say they are not going to buy the game!!!

Otherwise just stop, Stop crying right now, because EA could really care less...

If a million followers on Facebook or twitter said they will not buy BF4 if they can't re-sell it, you would see how fast EA would change their policy...
(and that goes for anything your against, it has to be a huge amount of loyal people for EA to take it seriously)

Otherwise EA just sits back and laugh at you Gamers all the way to the bank... Do Something for Real or shut up-

Because if your not part of the solution - Trust Me - You are, part of the problem...

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snarls200  +   459d ago
except they dont stick t their guns. Mass Effect 3 ending.
MoonConquistador  +   459d ago
Even better put by Crazyglues, well said. Only two issues with that proposal though.

It will take a lot of people with both patience and principles. Getting the two together nowadays might be tough.

The other issue is i dont deal with either facebook or twitter so can someone at least report on it on N4G if such a movement kicks off
JsonHenry  +   459d ago
IF I had a choice I would NEVER choose Origin over Steam. But if I want to play certain games I have no choice but take your lame origin with it. Just like GFWL - NO ONE WANTS YOUR SH*TTY SERVICE!!!!!!!! We simply just don't have a choice.
Lior  +   459d ago
fifa all they way
chak_  +   459d ago
So does valve with steam eh.

Remember HL², portal, TF2, CS? Now there are even loads of retail games coming with steam, forcing it down your throat.

Not that I care, but it's a fact.
DeadlyFire  +   459d ago
haha how much of that 45 million is mobile though?

Steam's majority is PC.
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g2gshow  +   459d ago
im proud of the money we are making tall'st tree catch the most wind. in other words he just said fu@#k you we expect some of you pu#$y to be up set heres a pat on the head now go f@##k you'r self
indysurfn  +   459d ago
Every attitude EA has proves what people are saying about them. Guess what EA other companies that could have gotten worse company has million of people and dollars. See BP oil company for example!
Banok  +   459d ago
The only reason I installed steam originally was because I HAD to, in order to play HL2, portal, TF2 etc.

IRONY MUCH?
g2gshow  +   456d ago
@ chaos-lockheart that really mad me lol good one best yet i seen
mii-gamer  +   459d ago
EA worst video game company of all time.
b_one  +   459d ago
ppl cry and yet they buy from them...
HammadTheBeast  +   459d ago
DICE makes good games, EA's a douche with them.
b_one  +   459d ago
DICE is just a tool in hands of EA, we will se what comes next
Pyrrhus  +   459d ago
http://consumerist.com/2013...

A reply from Consumerist after EA's post.
Ashlen  +   459d ago
Yeah, this pretty much sums up exactly how I felt after reading what EA said.

I personally haven't bought an EA game since Dragon Age Origins. It was a protest to Online Pass and shutting down servers.

If everyone would just grow some balls and learn a little self restraint we could change EA.

But instead even in the replies to this post I see people saying I hate you EA but i'm still buying Battlefield 4 and that is why EA keeps doing what they do.
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solidjun5  +   459d ago
Cap com is knocking.
medman  +   459d ago
EA stands for Exceptional Assholes.
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Pyrrhus  +   459d ago
What studio are they going to close next?
EA is a joke.

Being a sports addict, I hate how EA has no competition for their NHL or NFL games. They just dont care as long as they can get the money.
StrawHatPatriot  +   459d ago
Exactly.

Madden STILL lacks proper player weight/momentum, proper foot movement (too much sliding and zig zagging), enough penalties, good A.I, realistic looking tackles, a an actual working challenge system, realistic pursuit on the ball (players speed up to intercept a pass or pick up the football at the last second), receivers that aren't passive and actually try to move to get the ball, good CPU play, etc. They screwed the offline gamer with no CO-OP PLAY, or watching the CPU play for those gamers who want a challenge by building a great team and simulating it.

Apparently they couldn't even get uniforms correct: http://www.operationsports....

This is an example of why people hate Madden.

Oh yeah, they added Total Control Passing.

TCP was in a game made 8 years ago called "NFL 2K5", which was actually really good, for its time. That game let you talk to trainers to see if a player was injured or ready to go, they let you check your e-mail from your staff, and let you prepare your team for a game (by simulating film watching), something a coach ACTUALLY DOES, no, a coach DOESN'T "buy XP packages" or players DON'T "earn XP" and get better by putting up good stats Look at Aaron Rodgers, he got better by the coaching staff helping him out on the bench and fixing any flaws he had coming out of college (whether it was accuracy, mechanics etc.), not by letting Aaron Rodgers magically get great 500 yard passing games that will somehow magically make him a better player, which is EA's logic.
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Kran  +   459d ago
The only thing I will ever praise EA on is gay romances in some of their games.

You hardly see it in any other games, and its good EA try.

But that's really the only good thing I have to say about them, so yeah :/
BanBrother  +   459d ago
Gotta love them gay romances lol. GOTY material.
GiantFriendlyCrab  +   459d ago
EA was great in the 90s
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Lone_Man  +   459d ago
i love EA.....
violents  +   459d ago
The only reason I have an origin account is because they make you have one to play online.
DragonKnight  +   459d ago
”Many continue to claim the Always-On function in SimCity is a DRM scheme. It’s not. People still want to argue about it. We can’t be any clearer – it’s not. Period.”

Yes it is. Moore, people a lot smarter than you have cracked the foundation of this supposed creative move and found out that servers aren't at all necessary to make SimCity run. It's most definitely a DRM scheme. And don't treat us like idiots, we know you couldn't come right out and say it is a DRM scheme. You wouldn't be COO of EA for long afterwards if you did.

”Some claim there’s no room for Origin as a competitor to Steam. 45 million registered users are proving that wrong.”

Much like Live and Steam (in some instances), Origin is a forced service. You lock everything behind an Origin account. Do you think if people had a choice to use Origin or not they'd use your service? You're deluded.

”Some people think that free-to-play games and micro-transactions are a pox on gaming. Tens of millions more are playing and loving those games.”

Core gamers aren't wrong. You're talking about casual gamers that don't know any better. But if those casual gamers did even the slightest bit of research, or are friends with a core gamer, watch how the attitudes of those "tens of millions" of casual gamers change. Your money grubbing isn't anything a real gamer enjoys or wants.

”We’ve seen mailing lists that direct people to vote for EA because they disagree with the choice of the cover athlete on Madden NFL. Yes, really…”

So. Does that somehow de-legitimize everything else? I know you want it to, that's why you've included it.

”In the past year, we have received thousands of emails and postcards protesting against EA for allowing players to create LGBT characters in our games. This week, we’re seeing posts on conservative web sites urging people to protest our LGBT policy by voting EA the Worst Company in America.”

Terrible, but still doesn't invalidate anything else.

In closing, Moore you weren't exactly bright when you worked at Microsoft, and you aren't now. Stop equating clueless casual players with knowledgeable core gamers because they aren't the same. Casuals aren't complaining about you, core gamers are, and core gamers are the ones who fund your company over the long term. You should think about that before complaining about being voted as the worst company in America.
lnvisibleMan  +   459d ago
Impressive book.
DragonKnight  +   459d ago
Been on the Best Sellers list for an hour. It's ok to be jealous.
HonestDragon  +   459d ago
A buddy of mine got SimCity. Want to know something funny? Even though they never mentioned that you have to be online leading up to the release date, it says so on the front cover at the bottom. I find that a little humorous considering it's like there's that floating message in the back of a buyer's mind saying, "This is your last chance to back out now!"

For me, EA has earned the Worst Company in America title again. Everything from their shady DLC to forced online services to dumbing down their games, EA has basically done everything that gamers hate in the industry. Regardless of whether or not people hate them for who's on the cover of any given NFL game or their support of the LGBT community, it's their business practices that drive gamers crazy and vote for them as the worst of the worst.
coolbeans  +   459d ago
Eh...they've consistently done some foul gaming business practices but I don't see why that should overshadow big picture issues of the dozens of other companies listed on there that have such a greater impact on the world around us.

How many of those financial institutions on there are still going about ruining others' livelihoods?
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DragonKnight  +   459d ago
@coolbeans: Agreed. EA's practices are sh*tty, but they have literally no impact on anyone's personal life in the same way banks, health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, etc. do.
rainslacker  +   459d ago
@cool

I agree with you completely. I even said as much last year when they were up for this award, and after they won it.

I never heard of the Consumerist, and didn't think about them again until this poll came back up.

However, this was actually addressed in the article. Basically the consumerist is a website oriented around the consumer. As such while other companies have done some pretty bad things(far worse than EA IMO), EA still does enough bad things to warrant their inclusion into the poll.

It's not hard to imagine why EA won last year. Gamers tend to be a passionate group, and when they bandwagon on the hate train, they can go all out. Rationally though, despite the fact EA does some crappy stuff, people don't pay attention to who else is there and more deserving of this award, or even bother to find out why others have been nominated.

I have no doubt the fact it's been reported EA is in this poll has helped drive traffic to this site for people who want to vote just because they really dislike EA.
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HonestDragon  +   458d ago
@coolbeans Yeah, I agree with that. The other companies listed have done a lot of shady things. Facebook sharing personal information and profiles of its users, Bank of America systematically ruining people's lives with their policies, and Comcast with their supposed "deals" for quality television. But I still think that EA even being put on this list and winning this title will be a good thing for the industry.

In the long run, developers and publishers will look at certain business practices that EA embraces and most likely turn away from them. We can get good quality games. Rather, we can get creative and individually based games as a widespread effect. Gamers hate the conventions of business to which EA, Capcom, and Activision consistently push. It is this way that groups in the video game industry will strive for customer focused agendas instead of seeding the pockets of the suits who don't care about the industry like we do.
gamegenieny  +   459d ago
They are saying 45 million origin subscribers...... does that count the console gamers that HAVE to create an origin account just to play EA games online ? I'm asking since this isn't the first time i've seen them say that in comparison to steam, but if you're on a console you have to have an origin account so that could be the bulk of that 45 million ....
andrewer  +   459d ago
Well, they can't get any worse, so getting better wouldn't require so much effort...They can only stay the same or get better. But I still dream of the old EA coming back.
Hydralysk  +   459d ago
Can't get any worse? Oh ye of little faith...
LeoDDestroyer  +   459d ago
EA may be a bad company but what exactly makes them the worst in the entire U.S.A.. I'm quite sure that there are many companies in this country that have done far worst like causes someone's death.
jc48573  +   459d ago
I don't really own a lot of EA games to be honest. not even 5.
SeraphimBlade  +   459d ago
EA, it's not that you don't make great games. It's that you OWN great games, and then do whatever awful crap you want with them...
KillrateOmega  +   459d ago
The Only Reason I Semi-Tolerate Your Bullshit, EA...
is because you have DICE under your belt.
Erudito87  +   459d ago
theres sooooo many worse companies and ea get selected.
PS4isKing_82  +   459d ago
I agree with you fully. Microsoft, apple, and activision are all much worse IMO than EA. True, ea has done some pretty bad things itself but to call it the worst over others is a bit much.
Erudito87  +   459d ago
i was thinking companies like lockheed martin and general atomics aeronautical etc but yh apple and activision are quite bad too
KarrBOMB  +   459d ago
I love how Moore explains that the "always connected" feature is not a scheme, than gives zero explanation to any arguments against it.
ajax17  +   459d ago
The only good thing EA has done in the past couple of years is bring the Mass Effect series to PlayStation.
azshorty2003  +   459d ago
Congrats EA for being nominated for the second year in a row! It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to earn such a prestigious award.
aliengmr  +   459d ago
EA is NOT the worst company in America.

Worst game company? Maybe.

Seriously, AIG wanted to sue us for giving them a ****-ton of cash.

I am not a fan of EA, but there are far worse companies out there.
Monkeysmarts  +   459d ago
I totally agree and we will probably be swimming in disagrees soon, but EA is not even close to the douchery of many financial institutions, insurance companies, or agriculture. Heck I would even put Walmart (who destroys small business everywhere they go and treats customers like trash) and ISPs providing broadband with data caps ahead of freakin Electronic Arts.

Not being able to play SimCity for a week or two... cry me a freakin river. There are people losing their homes because of some of these companies irresponsibility, losing their livelihoods, and getting screwed over (really screwed over) by some of these insurance companies.

EA is up there in terms of the worst in gaming... but in real life there are much worse companies out there.
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PooEgg  +   459d ago
EA doesn't really care about gamers, they only care about profits. While some people are okay with that, the fact that EA keeps getting voted worst company just show that MANY people are not okay with it.

Of course we have the argument "don't like, don't buy" but the problem with that is what to do when you love a developer who has had the bad fortune to fall into EA's greedy little hands. It is a hard call.
Monkeysmarts  +   459d ago
It's an online poll that gets more circulation on gaming sites than anywhere else because EA is involved. Of course it is going to draw a lot of attention for EA. EA has a terrible reputation among the online communities in gaming.

But let's not make it a bigger deal than it really is, either... this poll got all of just over 250,000 votes last year. Battlefield 3 alone has over 6 million active players.

I think Activision is worse than EA, but I wouldn't put either company close to the realm of "Worst Company in America" status.
Thirty3Three  +   459d ago
Um. I think Nexon takes the cake for worst company. They're 100x worse than EA. Trust me, I follow both, heavily.
urwifeminder  +   459d ago
I have no prob with EA love their work.
landog  +   459d ago
i like ea games

crysis
bf
dead space
mass effect
lotr bfme2
Kingdoms of amular

the make a sh!ton of good games

bp, wells fargo, goldman sachs, disney, apple, etc...etc...all FAR worse companies than ea
Volitiel  +   459d ago
I kinda find all this hate for EA unfounded honestly. I see many comments bringing up that Origin is required to play EA games. Last year I bought the physical DVD of Skyrim for the PC and it required Steam to play it. How is that different with EA games requiring Origin then?

Back in 2004, I recall buying Half-Life 2 at launch when Valve simultaneously also launched Steam, and like how Origin is required for games today, Steam was required to play Half-Life 2 back then. And back then, I was using a dial-up internet connection. I didn't have any problems with the installation, but the process took longer and was more complicated than any game installation I ever encountered at the time and it did require creating a Steam account on an internet connection. I remember the forums were loaded with gamers whose installations didn't go as smoothly (Valve systems weren’t very stable in the very beginning too).

I'm not into Sims games and didn't experience that recent blunder, but I will say they didn't handle that one right. But I'll throw Halliburton and big oil companies in front of the bus long before its EA's turn. With Dragon Age, Mass Effect, SSX, and Dead Space, EA ranks as one of my favorite game publishers, and while I see they are trying to change some of these games to appeal to a larger audiences, they will hopefully (w/ fingers crossed) learn the err of their ways and retreat to making these games more focused on the core fan again.
StrawHatPatriot  +   459d ago
All there DLC Microtranction F2P crap, oh yeah, and Madden still sucks.
rammstein91  +   459d ago
unless they dont make mirror's edge 2,ea will be worse company than it is right now in core gamer's aspect
Jagsrock  +   459d ago
Does EA poop out a lot of games a year? They sure do but they are just that poop. Every now and then comes along a turd that is kinda special but overall it's mostly a bunch of diarrhea.
Xenomorph  +   459d ago
And yet you will all buy BF4.
DylnCox  +   459d ago
@CapsLocke Please indulge us on your experience of playing Battlefield 4...
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