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Submitted by paybackprahl 628d ago | opinion piece

How Microsoft's ignorance and Nintendo's console put Sony in first place for next-gen success

PSU.com's Kyle Prahl writes:

"The sales woes and seemingly outdated tech of Wii U, alongside damning evidence of "always online" for the next-gen Xbox, looks laughable next to marketing that has cast PS4 in a favorable light with many gamers. Developers are swearing allegiance. Indie titles are coming in droves. We have jaw-dropping evidence of PS4's graphical beauty and a heaping ton of information on everything from system specs and offline play to social features and streaming. On top of everything, PlayStation Vita looks ready to find its niche as an essential companion device for the hardcore PS4 gamer. All this, before year's end. No wonder Xbots are jumping ship." (PS3, Wii U, Xbox One)

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NastyLeftHook0   628d ago | Bad language | show | Replies(9)
The_Infected  +   628d ago
Yea because MS isn't going to come out and say rumors are not true. All this bad stuff the least they could do is say its not true and relieve everyone. Guess the rumors are slowly coming true. MS needs to come out and say something at least tell us a reveal date!
b_one  +   628d ago
this may happen, and we will know the truth after about 20 years from some retired developer who will tell that it was planned but outrage caused change of plans for MS
gamefiles  +   628d ago
lol. and the authour comes out as a caca brain.

the N64 without H.D. nor 720p no 60fps, still a better machine with better games that have HIGHER re-play value than the ps3 and xbox 360 < fact

and now the ps4 is gonna do what to wiiU? lol
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GameNameFame  +   628d ago
@Gameflies... I am confused
you are comparing PS4 vs Wii U?

For realsies? PS3, Xbox 360 > Wii U.

Ofc PS4 is gonna be far better than Wii U
indysurfn  +   627d ago
If these rumors are true don't call me a xbot, instead call me a EX-bot! Because I will be a ex Microsoft gamer. And only a Sony gamer.
MysticStrummer  +   627d ago
@gamefiles - "the N64 without H.D. nor 720p no 60fps, still a better machine with better games that have HIGHER re-play value than the ps3 and xbox 360 < fact"

I like how you phrased that, because what you said is indeed less than fact.
sengoku  +   627d ago
nice little read.
all be it a little optimistic towards PS.

in the words of Sir Francis.
sony already won the nextgen just by showing up and not being A*holes..

you just cant make this stuff up. LOL
FATAL1TY  +   627d ago
PS4 > xbox > wii u
Ritsujun  +   627d ago
Is gamefiles sane?
Army_of_Darkness  +   627d ago
@gamefiles
N64 couldn't even compete with the PS1, let alone the PS3?! LOL!
BrianC6234  +   628d ago
I guess that's what this Orth clown is doing. Sounds like he's saying it is true. Not a good way to do it though. Insulting people in areas with bad Internet access.
gamefiles  +   627d ago
for 1, PS1 graphics look shit < fact

2nd, ps1 load times are SHIT < fact

3rd, ps1 games do not come close to being better than 64 games < fact

4thly, how would these games look like on the ps1?

(Perfect Dark) (Turok)
(WaeRace) (Conkers Bad Fur Day) (007) (Ocarina Of Time) (Rogue Squadron) (Donkey Kong 64) (Smash Bros) ( Mario 64) (Episode 1 Racer)

(Pokemon Snap) and on and on and on and onn.. . (Excite Bike 64) (Banjo Kazooie's) (Pokemon Stadium) (Beetle Adventure racing) lol (Mario Kart 64) ( Jet Force Gemini) lol ( Killer Instinct) ( Majoras Mask) . . and on and on and onnn ? lol ps1 = metal gear solid, final fantasy
7 = great but no. .

fact is N64 wins .

lol ps3 360 = not better than n64 < fact

and on (Seeds of Evil) and on (Yoshis Story) (Star Fox 64) and onn .. .

not to mention how the N64 introduced the rumble feature to gaming < fact then further obliterates the ps1 with the Expansion pack . lol ps1

N64 has better game CHANGING games with HIGHER RE-PLAY Value than ps3 and 360 < fact (:

This is why Nintendo dominates and always will.

Now what will Nintendos franchises look like with wiiU power? . . lol ps4 = split screen STILL
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ThatsGaming  +   628d ago
MS is consistent. they never confirm nor deny rumors. when they reveal the next xbox we will know what it does. all the rumors and talk by peons is just that... Rumors and talk.

PS: We have already heard the Watch Dogs, Assassins Creed, and Destiny our always on games... Why would a console always on be an issue then?
violents  +   628d ago
Because some people still live in areas that dont have the most reliable internet, or what if you cant get broadband at all, some people near where I live cant even get cable because they live too far out in the boonies.

How would you feel if you came home unwrapped you new game console, ready to have some quality gamimg time and it wouldnt let you play a single player game because you dont have an internet connetion?

If thats not alienating the consumer, than i dont know what is.

Then on top of it look at the games like diablo and sim city that came with the always on DRM, how many problems did that cause, Amazon stopped selling Sim city entirely because there were so many complaints.
ThatsGaming  +   627d ago
@violents

http://majornelson.com/2013...

So, is MS really going to do always on? No one knows...
violents  +   627d ago
@thatsgaming

Im not saying they will because you are right noone know for sure yet. I was pointing out why it is a bad idea.
Shnazzyone  +   628d ago
Let's just pretend that sony didn't imply an always on infrastructure next gen too.
xursz  +   628d ago
They came right out and said you can play without Connecting to the internet. I think it was stated by Jack Tretton in a press meeting.
Knight_Crawler  +   627d ago
Sony said it was up to the developer...now what do you think R*, Bethesda, EA, Activision, UBISOFT, SQUARE ENIX, KONAMI, CAPCOM and other developers will choose - games will cost more money next gen due to more RAM and developers will want maximum profit so screw pirates.
Blaze929  +   627d ago
if they speak on a rumor than Microsoft would have essentially confirmed and announced their next xbox right then and there. Of course, that's not what they want to do and are waiting to do it at one time, one place.

I think everyone needs to calm down and treat these rumors as RUMORS.

"No wonder Xbots are jumping ship."

I was going to ignore the website this was coming from but see, now I can't even take this article serious.
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miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   627d ago
You have to love how all the bad rumors for the Durango are all true by the fanboys. It can't be wrong. And they run with it, post about it, blog, console wars are already won by Sony.... THAT'S INSANE!

Yet good rumors for Durango, are right away false, and could never happen, and MS wouldn't do that.

It's classic. :) Classic N4G, and SDF.
Majin-vegeta  +   628d ago
Well time to sit back and watch the comments unfold.*Tosses popcorn in mouth*
TrevorPhillips  +   628d ago
I seriously can't wait for the PS4! It'll be like playing the PS2 all over again :D
Theyellowflash30  +   628d ago
The PS2 had a stellar lineup of Japanese RPGs. The PS4 is going to have a majority of Western based shooting games.

Even Sony's Japanese studio is making a Western Style game. The PS2 was balanced with it's game collection. The PS3 will be dominated by Western devs.
HyperBear  +   628d ago
I know it's probably a long-shot, but I think it's time to bring Kevin Butler back for at least half of the marketing campaign for the PlayStation 4!!!
yesmynameissumo  +   628d ago
I'm definitely getting a PS4, but it's a tad too early to comment on rumors of Microsoft's next entry.
noxeven  +   628d ago
I'm tired of these articles. Sigh can't wait for official announcement from ms and all these rumor die,
Roper316  +   628d ago
" No wonder Xbots are jumping ship "

that isn't needed even from a PS dedicated site, can't we just be gamers with different opinions & preferences?
paybackprahl  +   628d ago
In the article, those words are hyperlinked to NeoGAF evidence of Xbox fans vowing not to purchase a next-gen Xbox. So, there's reasoning for say that.
Snookies12  +   628d ago
I think he's referring more to the "Xbots" term more than the "jumping ship" part...

Stuff like that is childish and stupid, and those that disagreed with Roper316 in terms of "can't we just be gamers with different opinions & preferences" Need to grow the hell up. We're gamers, we like GAMES, systems allow us to play those games, no matter what's inside of them or who they're made by.
MysticStrummer  +   627d ago
"In the article, those words are hyperlinked to NeoGAF evidence of Xbox fans vowing not to purchase a next-gen Xbox. So, there's reasoning for say that."

How exactly would anyone know who is telling the truth online? Anyone can claim anything they want.

!, for example, refuse to answer Kate Beckinsale's phone calls because she cheated on me once too often. It doesn't matter how sorry she is now because I can never trust her again. I'm honestly thinking about changing my number because of her constant weeping voicemails, begging for one more chance. We had something special for awhile but it's over.

I've seen lots of "evidence" of formerly loyal 360 fans jumping ship also, but the only real evidence will be the sales next generation.

Apologies to Kate Beckinsale. Call me.
BattleTorn  +   628d ago
This xbot is waiting to jump until the ship is sunk. (ie an official announcement affirms all this kinect2.0 focus, no used games, always-online, ect)
Lykon  +   627d ago
No let us fan the flames of war. The wii u has come it's lot too soon and is just another gimick console for girls and children and anyone who needs to play mario version whatever. M$ is an ugly corp that can't design or build reliable hardware or software. Sony hold the key next gen
JeffGUNZ  +   628d ago
How do articles like this get approved? I understand it's a pro sony site, but come on, MS hasn't announced anything. Yep, that's sure enough to declare a "winner".
Hicken  +   627d ago
That's how they get approved. There's nothing to indicate something to the contrary, so it only makes sense to speculate in the direction that evidence indicates. Even if it's just rumors, the fact that they persist, from multiple sources, and Microsoft is doing nothing to dissuade their propagation, lends the rumors credibility.

I'm sure there's some old adage that says it better than I can, but if the only thing we know is a lie, then that's the same as the truth, to us. So, unless Microsoft can give us SOMETHING to latch onto in order to at least SUGGEST otherwise, what's wrong with speculating under the assumption that the rumors ARE true?
JeffGUNZ  +   627d ago
I understand the route you're going with that, but we have to look at it with a broader scope. MS is a multi million dollar company who has been planning this reveal for years now. What people forget to remember is that MS launched a website on January 2, 2013, a countdown to E3. I feel like that was MS telling us something big (next gen) is coming. E3 is 2 months, away, all things are set for this reveal and planned, there is no way they are going to let the cat out of the bag yet, regardless of what is going around gamer sites. The money alone in what they are planning for E3 is astronomical and to take the bait of poor gaming journalists is laughable. To me, now this is just my opinion, I feel like MS isn't scared and is confident in their product to keep on their original path.

Everyone is in a rage right now, but if MS reveals at E3, Backwards compatability ,you don't NEED an internet connection to play, and they don't block used games, all of this will be an afterthought. I feel like people are so eager they believe everything at this point.
hennessey86  +   628d ago
I refuse
To pass judgement until I know the facts, these are all still rumors and could have been ideas that have been thrown away by microsoft.
Mkai28  +   627d ago
Indeed, you can't judge a man that hasn't committed a crime, and when an if he commits the crime there has to be an confession or evidence. Have people ever heard of a company putting out things to confuse there competitors? Having 1.23 tflops, AMD 6670 GPU ,ect. It's a strategic snare to confound the opponent :)
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majiebeast  +   628d ago
The power of twitter... 4 tweets and he caused Microsoft a PR nightmare. This is on every big games site and some news site like NBC tech and huffingtonpost. It has gone global at this point.

This gif is pure gold and made my day. Thx Neogaf.
http://i.minus.com/iZ4Xc7uz...

Speaking of stupid tweets... Cliffy B is at it again

https://twitter.com/thereal...
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saint_seya  +   628d ago
LOL at that gif.. made lol so hard. Now one of wii and ps4 plox :p
wishingW3L  +   628d ago
the sad thing are the people that agree with Cliffy and continue the joke. It seems more than half of the population in this planet either don't have a brain or maybe they just don't have any sympathy toward the neighbor.
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maniacmayhem  +   628d ago
LMAO!

That gif was pure genius.

To be fair though if your electricity went out you wouldn't be playing anything.
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CEOSteveBallmer  +   628d ago
Hehe I agree with you bro but obviously electricy is "mainstream" and is much more stable than an internet and is found even in rural areas. Electricity is needed in almost everything, without it you cannot work, cook, do the laundry, watch tv "Play games" unless you want a medieval lifestyle. Internet on the otherhand, you could pretty much do almost everything "Without it".
CEOSteveBallmer  +   628d ago
majie how about posting something like these? http://i.minus.com/i59yXniS... LOL cant get enuf of it XD
Ezz2013  +   628d ago
@majiebeast

LOL at this GIF XD
OMG!!! i can't stop laughing
my heart can't take it any more

@griever137
LOL hahahahahahaha my heart ...my heart
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trenso1  +   627d ago
lmao thanks for that gif made my night
Gameland  +   628d ago
Imagine standing inline with playstation and Xbox players for the PS4 as Gamers.
one day we will have Peace!
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   628d ago
Yeah.. Uhmm...

I'm gonna "wait and see" on this one.
I have had too many smart-heads tell me one thing and then it ends-up another.

It's should be a FUN E3- I guarantee.
Typical-Guy  +   628d ago
It's really too early to say so. MS hasn't said anything regarding the New Xbox. As for Nintendo, I don't care about them anyway!
Joegrine20   628d ago | Immature | show | Replies(1)
Nathaniel_Drake  +   627d ago
It's what they didn't say is what really tells
TheKayle1  +   628d ago
"tentonsoftube + 25m ago
prepare for the ps2 glory days. absolute fucking annihilation.
#1"

he get 27 agree...

is nice to see how some tech-ignorant ppls go in force ..in threads like this..
i fell shame for u guys

also coz ..what if the next xbox will be more powerfull than the sony ..behind what wall u will go to cry?
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clintos59  +   628d ago
Sony has proven even with inferior hardware microsoft still cant compete. Ps2 vs Xbox ring a bell? So why would we hide again?
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_QQ_  +   628d ago
the cheapest console tends to win... plus they havn't proved that "superior hardware" wins. ps3 is still behind wii, and its only somewhat close because all the extra sales they get from people having to repurchase a ps3 since their "superior hardware" has an average 3 year life span.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   628d ago
That's it. Keep living in the irrelevant past. Sony used to live there just before the PS3 was released.

Now the PS3 is in Last place for market share and the 360 took half of the market that once belonged to sony.

Live in the past....get left behind.
clintos59  +   628d ago
lopez_josue

Now u talking nonsense, I still have my ps3 from launch & even though sony had ylod it still is a small percentage compared to rrod. Sony didnt have to spend a billion dollars like microsoft, that just proves the 360 was launched incomplete & that is the only reason why microsoft sold that many 360's.

Lvl_up_gamer

Your living in the passed. Less exclusives out of all 3 consoles, u pay for online gaming & for your information the ps3 has been outselling the 360 worlwide for the passed few years now. Yeah your living in the passed because online gaming is free in these times. Get wit the times bruh.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   627d ago
"Now the PS3 is in Last place for market share and the 360 took half of the market that once belonged to sony."

Actually it's rather divided between the three consoles lol.

360 dead last in sales btw lol
fsfsxii  +   628d ago
1 bubble troll, you also lost all of them in less than 2 weeks. Pathetic
Gamer-40  +   627d ago
Yeah, the Sony club this site, always push - bubble for not only SONY fans.

Not too correct.
Gamer-40  +   627d ago
what if the next xbox will be more powerfull than the sony ..behind what wall u will go to cry?

LoL!

"..next xbox will be more powerfull than the sony.."
This absolutely possible.

Only hardcore Sony fanboy say, no...this impossible, new xbox weak and only focus the Kinect....
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Sucitta  +   627d ago
wow.. all this news is really hurting your devotion to a corporation called microsoft..

your patheitc.
Jek_Porkins  +   628d ago
LMFAO!

Really? We are declaring Sony the winner of the next generation before they've even shown what their console looks like, the price or release date. That is some damn prognosticating right there.

To also use a rumor about the next Xbox as a basis for that prognostication is just bad journalism, we have no facts, just rumors. I cant wait to see what the truth is, but if these rumors turn out false, a lot of crow and humble pie shall be served.
Dgander  +   628d ago
As always when MS nextbox has features PS4 dont have they will pretend it dont matter then cheer when their PS4 gets it 2 years later. I think MS will beat Sony on price point since Sony is selling HEADQUARTER buildings and divisions just to make a profit to please investors. Sony will finally sink the ship if they try to compete with price with PS4.
xursz  +   628d ago
Like Xbox fans pretended Bluray didn't matter, right? They all have pros and cons, I think the value is based on how heavy the pros outweigh the cons.
paybackprahl  +   628d ago
Declaring Sony the winner and saying "Sony is in first place" are two VERY different things.
Jek_Porkins  +   628d ago
How can they do either before showing their next console, price point, release date? You cant, that would be as retarded as someone saying the same thing about the next Xbox. We don't know anything about it, no way can we say it's in first or going to win.

Jumping the gun-meet-counting chickens before they hatch.
Dms2012  +   627d ago
Calling that idiotic diatribe "journalism" is giving it far too much credit. Even more sickening are the responses to it. So much pride in hardware and games that none of you had a hand in creating.
Gamer-40  +   627d ago
News for only Ps owner gamers.
Sponsored By Sony Computer Entertainment.

Absolutely objective.
jcnba28  +   628d ago
First place? LOL Nintendo owns first place.
C4BL3  +   628d ago
I am a long time xbox player and I will be moving to PS4. Bungie putting Destiny on PS4 sold me. The only games I care about in the near future are BF4 and Destiny. Why stay with M$ when we all know they are going soft.
Cam977  +   627d ago
Welcome to the family.
Jadedz  +   628d ago
Oh noez...
Elitist bullplop at its finest.
Ck1x  +   628d ago
Listen I really hope that the PS4 does do well when its released, just as I want all of the console to do good... But I feel that if the PS4 doesn't sell like the PS2, there might be a lot of Sony fans committing suicide behind this! Just look at some of the comments on here alone. Some pretty mental people on this site I tell you.
HmongAmerican  +   628d ago
Give them two months time. Anything after that then it is too late for them, if they not going to reveal anything by then. As of now, I just gonna have to put up with all the rumors.
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blackbirdi  +   628d ago
it was ignorance that hurt the company i think this time it's M$ turn
Theyellowflash30  +   628d ago
Yeah, it's way too early to declare a winner, and this article is clearly looking for "fanboy hits" Let's take a wait and see approach. Because I saw these same articles when it was PSP vs DS, PSV vs 3DS, PS3+Xbox 360 vs Wii.... and we all know how those turned out.
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Dj7FairyTail  +   628d ago
PlayStation SITE

FANBOY FANBOY ALERT
Objective  +   628d ago
Too many frogs in this well.
Grimhammer00  +   628d ago
Problem is always online is at this point almost fact for MS new console. And it's likely very central to their plans. They have by far been the console of choice for freeloaders who want a hackable system. Download latest cracked game release. Sometimes months in advance. And play on a seperate network from Xbox live that costs you nothing but your Internet connection.

So it's no surprise that DRMing the sh!t out of their new console is a priority for them. I'm sure developers want this too. But they also must weigh the backlash. And I think it's very apparent where most gamers side on this issue.

Keep in mind MS will require Xbox live gold for online play. So your virtually forced to pay for whatever paywall cost they decide is good for next gen.

None if this is permanent. As soon as MS feel the hurt they'll update firmware for offline play. They'll immediately accept the tug of war with hackers again.
_QQ_  +   628d ago
at least 70% of people who own an xbox now will buy one next gen...and what is that about nintendo's console? it will be the cheapest by a large margin so when current consoles are done the wiiu will have the casuals again, Wiiu also has the best exclusive lineup so far.
Hanso  +   628d ago
Wiiu also has the best exclusive lineup so far

HUH?
_QQ_  +   628d ago
of course comments like yours will appear, no counter arguement, nothing to add, just qouting me and saying "huh" as if i only spoke nonsense.as you are in desperate need of it, i'll clarify for you, just Monolith's X will be better than any individual confirmed ps4 exclusive. unless you want to argue that some average shooter(killzone),or a good not great superhero franchise(infamous) will be better than the spiritual successor to last gen's best JRPG. the same will apply to the next zelda, mario, and retro's game. plus nintendo has all the other remaining exclusives like mariokart,pikmin,bayonetta,sma shbros,yarn yoshi. naughty dog is the only sony first party that can compete with nintendo's first party.
ps3_pwns  +   628d ago
microsoft is ignorant and so are many of there supporters at this point. the go to console is the ps4. the x720 will have no one on mics and no one playing on it. why fight the inevitable? sometimes people just need to let go. its like that one friend who used to be so good to you but now made a turn for the worst and is going to bring you down. best thing to do is cut ties. stop fighting what needs to be done in gaming. playstation 4 is here to stay. call of duty will be hyped and bigger and better with more mics and people playing on the ps4 version.
Grimhammer00  +   628d ago
What? Mics? Whatever.
It's the DRM people. That's the issue. Wake the uck up!

MS always online is solely to make sure you can't trade, crack or share the games you pay for but don't actually own.
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