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Submitted by zerocrossing 968d ago | opinion piece

Destructoid: Microsoft man on always-online consoles: 'Deal with it'

Jim Sterling writes "Rumors that the Next Xbox will be restricted by the same always-online requirement that has crippled several major PC releases of late has not exactly been met with applause from prospective customers. One man, however -- Microsoft Studios creative director Adam Orth -- doesn't see why anybody could have an issue with a DRM Box." (Culture, Industry, Microsoft)

NastyLeftHook0  +   968d ago
yeah..just deal with it. take it like a good boy. smh
Yi-Long  +   968d ago | Well said
Oh, I'll deal with it....
... I'll deal with it by buying a PS4.
guitarded77  +   968d ago
I'm hearing a lot of people are having the same reaction. It was stupid for him to say that. I'm certain MS's PR team is in a tailspin right now trying to figure out what to do. That single statement has changed many's perception of what the next XBOX will be, and we really don't know anything yet.
darthv72  +   968d ago
what if....
you all just got seriously trolled and didnt even pick up on it?

That would go down as one of THE BEST pranks in console history. It would probably beat out the whole Sheng Long prank of Street Fighter 2 many years ago.

Anyone in this day and age can pass themselves off as another person when hiding behind such social media outlets like Twitter/facebook.

To think there is someone crafty enough to play on the minds of others, especially a hot topic of the 720, and get away with it.....not hard to believe at all.

That is why i will only believe the words coming from the presentation floor. If at that time all of these 'rumors' are proven true then i will apologize for not believing them sooner.

until then....i don't buy any of it. and neither should anyone else.
negative  +   968d ago
GrieverSoul  +   968d ago
First and Foremost, I dont like this always ON thing!!


You gotta handle it to Microsoft. I mean, they found a way to put people paying for a service that is, and always was, free in other competitors. They made you pay for LIVE and got away with it. Now they are trying to make it that always ON is the way to go. Im not saying they will succed but there are people who defende paying for LIVE because of this and that... lets see how they will spin this.

BTW, I have a X360 and a PS3 and I dont pay for LIVE. My LIVE susbcription is Silver because GOLD is the price of the game I pay for the PS3 with free online.
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fermcr  +   968d ago
Isn't this duplicate news ?
nikrel  +   968d ago
So many people are going to dupe this topic, it's too hot not to.
wantonGamer  +   967d ago
LOGICWINS  +   968d ago
@Yi-Long- Preach brutha preach!
MikeMyers  +   967d ago
How do you deal with it if you don't have an online connection? We've seen these services go down before and while it is annoying you can still play your games offline. That's why SimCity got so much flack, they decided in their wisdom it needed a constant connection. So what you had were people paying 50 or 60 dollars and not being able to play. Guess what's going to happen when your $400 game console can't play ANY game?
RM-TatoTiburon  +   967d ago
i'll wait for the presentation, if this is truth i hope they know that internet connections go off very often more than energy cuts and will be a real bumer if i can't play games beacse i don't have internet in the moment
FunkMacNasty  +   967d ago
Hey tentonsoftube, nobody wants an 'always on' connection. But you've made it clear (and it's outlined pretty well in your comment history) that your a close minded Sony fanboy.

Everyone knows your not getting an Xbox of any kind, so instead of reminding us, why not save that one bubble of yours to say something positive... maybe in an article about Sony related stuff?
DigitalRaptor  +   966d ago
That comment failed pretty hard.

1) What kind of self-respecting person would get the new Xbox if all of these negative, anti-consumer rumours end up being true?

2) Why would anyone spin this debacle into a positive?

3) You get at least one bubble per article. So he can comment on Sony articles AND Microsoft articles.
dedicatedtogamers  +   968d ago
People will always make excuses. I'm already hearing them now:

"What's the big deal? Are you on N4G at the library? Everyone has internet. It's not a big deal".

Okay. Well, as a PC gamer of 20 years, I'm just going to keep my mouth shut. Go ahead and let Microsoft have control over your game library! Have fun! I've already been down that road. I'll let you kids wallow in your naivety. At least on PC, you can find cracks and hacks for your games when the DRM f***s it all up. Good luck doing that with your 720 games.
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BanBrother  +   968d ago | Well said
Already lost a bubble today by butt-hurt 360 fanboys, so at least I can't lose another. If anyone buys this console knowing it has online DRM (presuming it does in fact have always online) then I hope they lose internet connection a lot and that XBL gets hacked and down for a month.

Anyone stupid enough to buy it deserves that.
amiga-man  +   967d ago
xbox owners bring it on themselves paying for online was a green light for M$ to continue taking advantage, some people never learn and will defend it to the detriment of all gamers.

have a well said bubble BanBrother for trying to wake them up.
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die_fiend  +   968d ago
But David Jaffe has defended him. Which must mean something right? A guy who hasn't made a good game in about a decade but still thinks people are listening to him.
WeAreLegion  +   968d ago
You didn't like Twisted Metal? I loved it!
InTheZoneAC  +   968d ago
Twisted Metal was a good game, although you can tell it was rushed or didn't have a long development cycle.
CEOSteveBallmer  +   968d ago
If david jaffe defended him is true, Well "sigh" how the mighty have fallen.
Tultras  +   967d ago
God of War???

You mentioned decade.
die_fiend  +   967d ago
8 years then...sheesh. And look what's happened to that franchise
InTheZoneAC  +   968d ago
if the idea of any product is to lure people away from other products and buy their own, then MS has failed in every way, like they have since they first came out.

PS4 was already a 100% launch day purchase from me and I find it funny how MS is doing everything they can to throw their own customers away.

I guess they figured people weren't "smart enough" to leave when 360 was just an issue waiting to happen that they can pretty much go in any direction they want now and the same people will stick with them.
lovegames718  +   968d ago
Morons love a good shafting so they'll still move units. Remember these are the same political that supported micro after the read fiasco. A situation in which micro knowingly rushed hardware with high failure rate that would die after first year warranty and micro didn't have to fix or replace it. Thousands and millions rebought Xbox not knowing initially it was a micro swindle then lawsuits came and micro divulged they rushed out system and extended warranty but by then many had already bought new systems. But even after that bit of info did ppl stop buying Xbox? No!!! I mean I never bought an Xbox because that was highly insulting and shady but many many did and that is worse than this always online rumor IMO.
yesmynameissumo  +   968d ago
Sometimes things taste bad. Don't eat. Ever. Deal with it.
GreenRanger  +   968d ago
Shut up and take my money, .............Sony!
WhatchaTalkinBout  +   968d ago
Why Deal with it ?.. when there others options out there so you wont have to deal with it.....
00  +   968d ago
Why are people even believing these rumors
I thinks always online sound stupid but I'm going to wait for e3 before a start judging what ever MS/sony do.
wantonGamer  +   967d ago
Because the smart thing to do for MS is to come out with a statement and kill the rumors right now. Instead of letting it grow and lay eggs till E3.

Seeing as they are not debunking the rumors, they must be true. Otherwise what could possibly be the point in letting these rumors run rampant unless you simply CANNOT deny the veracity of them.
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ApolloTheBoss  +   968d ago
Karma's getting pissed and I can't wait to see her kick the crap out of Microsoft for this.
pissed999  +   968d ago
It's no secret Microsoft are anti-consumer and very arrogant assholes. Look at E3.

I stick with Valve because Valve are pc gaming gods and love me like I love them. Great guys the lot of them.

Microsoft? Big cockheads.
clintos59  +   968d ago
360 owners may think I hate them but it's complete opposite. I just hate seeing microsoft have their way with gamers in general. If we dont say nothing they will continue to have their way. I dont want microsoft to fail, I want them to listen to what gamers want. Were the consumers & if they want to treat us unfairly why should we have to put up with that?
nikrel  +   968d ago
I just built a gaming PC and i've never been happier, humble bundle + steam sales is amazing. I haven't payed over 10bucks for games in awhile, and most games come out to be 1-3bucks to do the bundle deal.
chukamachine  +   968d ago
Ms new slogan.

Never feel alone - Always connected.
Siren30  +   968d ago
I'm guessing nobody would have a problem with this if sony did it.
Rusty515  +   968d ago
No. If the PS4 was always online and the 720 wasn't, even as a long time PS fan, I wouldn't think twice to jump ship. This idea is ridiculous, and you'd have to be a complete idiot if you think this is great or innovative concept.
Baka-akaB  +   967d ago
Only morons would believe that . The net was on fire when they tried that on PC three times already
WhatchaTalkinBout  +   967d ago
Seriously ???... wouldnt matter which company done this sony, microsoft or nintendo all gamers will have a problem with this!!
FunkMacNasty  +   967d ago
Siren30 you are right!! Only on N4G my friend!

While the rest of the internet remains rightly speculative about the potenial 'always on' DRM status of MS's next Xbox, N4G is a Sony fanboy propaganda machine, so you wont hear anything intelligible around here other than "hurpadurrp halo gearz forzaz izz old derrrp Sony cares about me like familyz herpaderp"

On Topic: if the rumors are true that you need a constant internet connection to play games and use console apps, than yes.. this would obviously be a bad move for microsoft. I don't think that they are that stupid - they know they would be alienating large demographics of their fanbase worldwide. There must be something more to this.
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Baka-akaB  +   967d ago
So you lost you perpetually on internet when people where b*tching about Diablo 3 , Sim City and Assassin Creed ?

Or is it some powerful case of selective memory ?
profgerbik  +   968d ago
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Studio-YaMi  +   967d ago
Wish I can thumb you up more with a funny bubble ...!

If these rumors about the nextbox are true,then Kaz is gonna be dancing in his sleep !

I wish it was E3 tomorrow ...
DarthJay  +   967d ago
This won't effect me, and I am still getting the next Xbox and will definitely love the ever living crap out of it, but it is extremely disappointing that they are heading this direction.

I have to agree across the board that they would be destroying all the momentum they created this generation by following through with this.

It takes some balls, and in a way I admire that they are willing to take risks, but this is definitely a bad risk to take and I don't see how it benefits anyone but them.

Oh well, I'll have both (nextbox/ps4) anyway.
Gameland  +   967d ago
All of this negative news on the next Xbox
Is going to make the PS4 preorders and launch CRAZY!
brewin  +   967d ago
Wow... what a douche bag. Pretty much confirmed the fears of many. Always online means never buy for me and many others. Eff that, Ill be sticking with the U and Ps4 if this is the case. MS is getting a really big head thinking they can just give gamers the shaft and it wont hurt them at all. Remember how confident both Nintendo and Sony got? Sony suffered with the PS3 and Nintendo has suffered since the GameCube (in the eyes of many) since they stopped giving gamers what they wanted and started providing what the COMPANY wanted. We pay your bills you dumbass companies, go ahead and pull some crap and see what happens!

Bad word of mouth can kill a system before it has a chance. Ive been a hardcore Xbox gamer for the last couple gens, but its already looking bleak for MS just based off these rumors. This and the mandatory Kinect crap where they charge based on whos in the room?!?! WTF, Im all good with that. I already disconnected my Kinect permanenetly.
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Jek_Porkins  +   967d ago
I've never seen Microsoft have the entire front page all to itself, these rumors are giving them a ton of publicity. No matter what your stance is on Microsoft everyone will tune in to see the truth when they finally decide to acknowledge they even have a new console in the works.

They aren't really in any harm by letting the rumors go because you cant even pre-order a PS4 yet, and anyone who would choose one over the other without even hearing confirmation is probably pretty ignorant or a child.

Let's wait and see.
BrianC6234  +   967d ago
Sometimes any publicity is good publicity. Not this time. This one is going to hurt Microsoft. The longer it goes on the more it will hurt them.
Jek_Porkins  +   967d ago
How exactly can it hurt them at the moment? You cant pre-order the PS4 yet, and intelligent people are going to wait for an actual reveal and confirmation before picking one or the other if they cant get both.

Bottom line as far as I can see it, PS4 was announced, but is now pushed to the back burner because people are more worried about what the possibilities are with the next Xbox.
BrianC6234  +   967d ago
The PS4 isn't getting pushed to the back burner at all. The longer Microsoft keeps quiet about their console though the more it will look like the rumors are true. Which they most likely are based on that one guy's tweets. Why would someone at Microsoft defend the always on rumor if it isn't even true?
BitbyDeath  +   967d ago
"How exactly can it hurt them at the moment?"

It is now known over websites everywhere that the next Xbox requires an online internet connection to play games.

Casual gamer looks up Xbox 720, sees it needs online goes to PS4 or Wii U. Buys that instead.

Even if MS come out and say it isn't true at E3 then it will still be too late as this has already gone viral.

MS could have stopped it but didn't. Hence why the next Xbox will be hurting.
CaulkSlap  +   967d ago
Honestly it's not the always on aspect that bothers me. It's that you really no longer own a game. Is Microsoft going to keep these servers up for the next 50+ years? Or is the whole thing just a brick and your game discs worthless when they decide to shut servers down?
InTheLab  +   967d ago
Paying for Live is equally ridiculous but people still do it....
4lc4pon3  +   967d ago
exactly. I will not be supporting M$ with there so called Durango at all. Microsoft has lost there edge. I actually liked the 360 when it was released they drew me in with games like Kameo and condemned but they have just fallen apart as of a couple years ago.

Paying to play. No free games (Like sony gives). No bluray. No new ips and lack of exclusives. There just dont care about there consumers.

Sorry M$ but you lost I will buy my PS4 and I will be more then content with it. I love my PS3 and up until about 2 months ago I had a 360 and I sold it. Gears of war got tiring and honestly there were no games I liked on the 360
BrianC6234  +   967d ago
David Jaffe shouldn't defend this clown. If Microsoft is smart they'll either fire him or demote him. You'd think people would know by now they represent their company when they tweet things and he makes Microsoft look really bad and arrogant.
Silly gameAr  +   967d ago
I'm going to treat these rumors like I did the PS4. Just wait for something official, and stop paying attention to the rumor and speculation articles. Greenburg said he didn't even know who this guy was. I'm sure an employee from MS wouldn't be this reckless, knowing there would be a huge backlash.
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