If rumor is true, the next Xbox gives a big middle finger to gamers not wanting always-on gameplay

I'm boiling over with anger right now. If the rumor report by Kotaku today is true, there's going to be a lot of gamers just as angry as I am. Kotaku reported that two of their sources are saying the next Xbox, codenamed Durango, will be an always-online system.

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TheLyonKing1843d ago

I think ms are doing that to gamers right now! This past year and a bit has been a snoozefest.

This always online is going to suck for a lot of places in the Middle East or any remote area in western countries! I hope it isn't true.

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sengoku1843d ago

don't explode just yet, M$ have said nothing yet!

_-EDMIX-_1843d ago

???? Are we still trying to get folks to believe that? LOL! Look its all but confirmed to be true. Can you even name a console that has released these past 10 years that NOTHING was leaked about prior to announcement?

The same sources that have leaked PS4....are leaking this same damn system. To say its a "rumor" or "fake" is just down right stupid. At this point, I'm taking it as a damn fact. As to weather or not MS want to keep it in due to all the negative press is really up to them, but Kotaku is pretty much saying those new devkits HAVE IT IN! ie 720 will STILL have this always on DRM.

Too many sources are saying the same damn thing. Buddy....its true.

sengoku1843d ago

i'm just saying everybody should take it easy man.
true or false, nothing has been announced so it's still 50%/50%
i can see it happening but that doesn't mean it will.

BabyTownFrolics1843d ago

Rabid fanboys up in here they smell blood there is no room for reason

Cam9771843d ago

Haha! Xbox fanboys boast about their "superior" online service, yet when a rumour details MS' plans to take that a step forward they complain?!? Right... Enjoy hanging on threads with those remarks.

dedicatedtogamers1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

If anyone can convince their followers to believe that always-on DRM is a good thing, it would be Microsoft.

"Okay, so HD-DVD failed, but at least we have Netflix!"
"Okay, so RRoD is widespread and horrible, but at least we have the warranty!"
"Okay, so the warranty can sometimes take weeks to get me a new sytem, but at least it was free!"
"Okay, so all of our games are going multiplatform, but at least we have...multiplatforms!"
"Okay, so we have to pay for online that is free everywhere else, but at least we have cross-game chat!"

From overpriced hardware and wi-fi antennas, to unwanted changes to the dashboard, to a steep drop in exclusive support, to a massive shift over to casual gaming with Kinect, the 360 loyalists have never failed to make excuses for Microsoft.

And no one can dare say "Sony and Nintendo fanboys do that, too". No. The only fanboys on the same level of denial are Apple cultists. The Sony crowd ate humble pie for years while PS3 played catchup and while PSP (and now Vita) were the 2nd-place handheld. Nintendo fans ate humble pie as the Wii's library continued to be devoid of compelling, hardcore games for years and years. At least they'll acknowledge the shortfalls of their preferred company.

Besides, Persona 2 taught me that The Joker always makes rumors come true.

Septic1842d ago

"The Sony crowd ate humble pie for years"

Haha you have got to be kidding me. Lol I'm sorry but your post was just ridiculous. And let me show you why:

Sony exec said, get two jobs or work overtime to buy our console. You swallowed any pride and said okay. Sony said their device wasn't a dedicated gaming machine but an entertainment device. Sonys last minute attempt to copy Nintendo came up with the SixAxis but you defended it. For all its cost it couldn't do basic voice chat like the old Xbox could but you said it's okay, we have Skype. The complex CELL architecture meant most third party games ran better on the Xbox than the console you were supposed to get two jobs for, but you said, oh developers are lazy, they are to blame (and now Sony has done a u-turn and you're happy). Mandatory installs made the console import the worst aspect of Pc gaming into console gaming but you said, oh go make me a sandwich and do something else for 10 minutes (now Sony made a concerted effort to make gameplay instantaneously and you rejoice).

Sony fans never ate humble pie (not the ones here that's for sure). Sony was supposed to crush its opponents when it came into its stride remember? But that clearly didn't happen. Sony fans on this site are the worst:
Sony against MS: Lol Kinect- you have no exclusives but forget about a generation that had an unprecedented third party presence in the industry. Then you scoff at the (admittedly few) exclusive MS has desperately trying to downplay the likes of Forza, (where all of a sudden review scores are mired in conspiracy) Gears and Halo (the latter of which Sony still hasn't got an answer for). MS came up with achievements? Oh they basically copied some obscure game that had that (clearly not understanding the nature of the feature or making excuses not to give credit where credits due)

Sony vs Nintendo: 'Lol look at the weak specs. Oh and same old ip's lol. No one wants Mario 100'. Yeah okay kids. Just look at the sheer quality of Mario 64 or Galaxy. And look at the qualitity of the Zelda titles. Nintendo are always at the forefront of innovation but no, the raw tech specs are all many fanboys, especially Sony ones, are what the are concerned with. Which amusingly, leads us to:

Sony vs PC: 'lol no one has money for a $2,000.00 PC because that is the money you require to get a decent gaming computer. Oh and Killzone still looks better than your games'

Where does this superiority complex come from in Sony fans? I'm most likely to game primarily on the PS4 but the attitudes of Sony fanboys as a whole, and I'm talking about the majority on here, not the usual trolls is just plain moronic. You tout the importance of games so much but seldomn act like gamers, bullying others with your hypocrisy and ill informed, sensationalist garble.

Take this article for example. It's just a rumour. Are you forgetting the rumours about blocking used games before Sony unveiled the PS4? Remember how Sony said nothing before the unveiling? Apply the same standards here.

Maybe Persona should have taught you that a Joker with an agenda wants rumours to be true.

lastofgen1843d ago

this always online rumor began with-- the dev got durango devkits that required an always-online connection so that they could always remain verified/secured and be given instant and up-to-date updates for the kit.

this always online thing probably has nothing to do with the final product.

Freedomland1842d ago

What's wrong with always online, if you don't like it, don't buy it because Microsoft like their product this way, so be it.
Ok by me.

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GalacticEmpire1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

Are there any gamers that WANT always on DRM?

Whether you believe all publicity is good publicity or not, the rampant negative press towards the Xbox 3 is having an adverse effect on gamers perceptions of Microsoft as a gaming company.

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xander707691843d ago

Well it shouldn't be causing negative perceptions towards Microsoft because Microsoft hasn't said a peep yet. As far as I'm concerned this is all speculation and until Microsoft officially confirms or denies rumors I'll reserve my anger and perceptions.

It would be nice if Microsoft would just set the record straight now instead of staying silent, but at the same time Microsoft doesn't have to make a public announcement every time people start spreading rumors. No company does.

If Microsoft does require always online connection, they will definitely lose a customer right here though. There is no way I will purchase that, simple as that. I own a ps3 and Xbox 360, I love my 360 and I hope to get the ps4 and nextbox, but if rumors come true I'll be sticking with Sony exclusively.

GalacticEmpire1843d ago

Sadly, those who are patient and open minded enough to hold off judgement are the minority. MS's silence is only hurting the situation if anything, like the article states,

"...if it wasn't true, why wouldn't Microsoft just squash it now so that there's not a negative connotation surrounding their next Xbox?"

rainslacker1843d ago

Good question. Maybe the people that are OK with the idea can tell us what compelling reason there is for an always-online connection on a game console. I'll even concede before hand that we don't have all the facts. I'm just talking hypotheticals, and people are free to speculate on the meaning of a required always-on connection. For this hypothetical, I say that it is required to play your in not optional. Further, if your connection goes down, your system is useless. I'll await some positive answers.

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Rusty5151843d ago

I highly disagree. With this new Xbox 720 feature, it gives Microsoft the upper-hand against their competitors concerning video game piracy. This is a really smart business move on Microsoft's part. ...said no one ever.

TKCMuzzer1843d ago

It's a valid point. But forcing people to have an internet connection to play single player games is not the answer. Many people don't want to be constantly connected by 'choice' and that's the key word. On another note I know plenty of people who bought a second 360 because of how easy it is to mod and get copied games for, I should imagine around the world that tallies up.
Microsoft need to be careful, they have not really been great in the last couple of years as they seemingly distance themselves from the core gamer.
They will need a good showing, good games and most importantly something different with Xbox live, because paying just to play online won't be enough next time round.

This is my opinion, I got rid of my Xbox 360 due to Microsoft's dogged stance on Xbox live. I could not even play multiplayer demo's without a Gold account, demo's, that's ridiculous. Sony offered so much more for £40 a year and in these times that's were my money goes and a long way with that.

I'm interested to see what happens next....

Gimmemorebubblez1842d ago

Sony filed a patent for antipiracy offline software which measures the load times on the blu-ray disk.

pete0071843d ago

future is allways on line, my pc is allways online, my iPhone is allways onlime, my dog is allways online, i am allways online, see the matrix and youll find out where will we be in the future!!! lol

clintagious6501843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

Thats not the problem. The real problem is NOT EVERYONE has internet. MS will be leaving out alot of consumers with this do to having to be online just to play your game. Us gamers who have internet is a small percentage of potential buyers. MS should just come out & get rid of these rumours.

So your telling me that sum users dont have a 2nd account? Get real bruh. Also the user base is smaller then u think due to rrod. Same can be said bout the any other system.

IronFistChinMi1843d ago

That's BS. Microsoft have 40 million+ subscribers to Live, they've sold over 70 million 360's. How is that a small percentage of gamers with internet?

TKCMuzzer1843d ago

But that means by your maths there could be nearly 30 million 360's not online, that's 30 million possible game purchasers, that's a lot of revenue. Even 10 million would be a big loss.

I agree it's not a small percentage of gamers as the above suggested but Microsoft would risk losing many customers and ironically it's more likely to be the casuals who we know they are trying to attract.

IronFistChinMi1843d ago

@TKCMuzzer Microsoft pull in close to a billion dollars per year through Live;

Microsoft won't be making a lot of money from those gamers who don't use Live, so they probably deem it worth the risk. I don't think it's a good idea, but they'll turn a profit regardless.

IronFistChinMi1843d ago (Edited 1843d ago )

@clint See my link above. Cold, hard numbers man. 2nd accounts doesn't matter when the money pours in like that.

As for your smaller user base theory, provide numbers. My launch 360 died December 2008 after a 1.5 years, got a free replacement 9 days later. Refurbished 360's don't count towards Microsoft's sales figures.

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rainslacker1843d ago

The difference is, that's your choice. Not everyone chooses the same, or even has that choice. Mandatory is just the wrong way to go, but optional is perfectly fine, and it's even what many do now.

Also by your comment it seems that you can truly state that you are online 100% of the time. Never has your internet gone down. Never have you had to wait hours or days when your ISP decided to do something, or the servers that run your precious games haven't gone down or been hacked.

Future is not always online. No more than it is F2P or digital distribution. Stop accepting things blindly just because you think it doesn't affect you. Look at everything from a consumer standpoint, because eventually something will affect you and you will feel exactly like many people do now over the very thought of this rumor.

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